Batman with an Upgraded Suit

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batdude123
Who here thinks that with such great technology, and with such a great brain with an IQ of over 200, that Batman should have a more upgraded suit than he does? I mean the guy is a freakin genious and has created technology that people shouldn't really be able to. I think that he should have a stronger and more technologically advanced suit.

Takion
Ironman.

badabing
Ironbatmansteelwarmachine?

Rewmac
In comics does he have bulletproof suit?

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
Ironman.

Seriously, something like a that only like a bat. I think that after 67 years with basically the same kind of suit, it's time for a change with it. He's a genious and he should aply the same brain power on that like he does on the batcave, the batmobile, his gadgets, batplane, etc...

batdude123
Originally posted by Rewmac
In comics does he have bulletproof suit?

Yes, but I'm saying that it's time for a change. It would make him more powerful and it would make more sense considering he has done some god-like things with his smarts except update his suit. erm

badabing
He has had "enhanced" bat suits from time to time.

batdude123
Originally posted by badabing
He has had "enhanced" bat suits from time to time.

Yes, I know, but I'm saying that it's kind of wierd considering he's just as smart as Tony Stark, and yet he doesn't have half the suit that he does. He should have a more offensive weapon as a suit. It makes sense. His suits haven't lasted very long and it's time for a change in making his suit more powerful and more updated.

badabing
Maybe he doesn't want that kind of power. He was the first person to go "Batman" on somebody. batman

Tron
I think it's more of a choice for him than anything else. He could've been wielding plenty of power by now, but he prefers the "human" approach though. He'll do it if the situation calls for it, but he prefers getting by on his own strengths, which he does better than most.

batdude123
Originally posted by badabing
Maybe he doesn't want that kind of power. He was the first person to go "Batman" on somebody. batman

Yes, perhaps. I'm just saying that it would be cool to see him in a technologically advanced suit. If even for a brief period of time, I still think it would be cool. Think about it, if he wanted to, he could seriously be one powerful sucker and could kick the crap out of a lot of people. If he were to channel his genious on his suit, he could take down easily and with less trouble than he does now. Batman's potential is quite strong. cool

batdude123
Originally posted by Tron
I think it's more of a choice for him than anything else. He could've been wielding plenty of power by now, but he prefers the "human" approach though. He'll do it if the situation calls for it, but he prefers getting by on his own strengths, which he does better than most.

Agreed. yes It's just that he has the potential for not even having any real threats with Gotham.

Takion
I think movie batman sometimes shows a better showing then then comic batman.

badabing
I'd like to see all the super humans of the JLA become mind controlled and have Batman bust out a JLA buster suit and clean house.

batdude123
Originally posted by badabing
I'd like to see all the super humans of the JLA become mind controlled and have Batman bust out a JLA buster suit and clean house.

laughing That'd be cool.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
I think movie batman sometimes shows a better showing then then comic batman.

What do you mean by a "better showing?"

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
What do you mean by a "better showing?"
Skills.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
Skills.

No, not at all. no In the comics, Batman is a master of 127 different styles. Batman Begins should about 1/10 as much skill as the comic Batman does. Batman is unbelievable in comics in terms of fighting. I'll post this just so you can see what I mean. The following are skills that Batman has on top of his 127 styles of martial arts:

Batman is a master of Haragei, a master who has expanded his physical senses over this plane of existence to another and thus becoming hyper aware of his surroundings without appearing to really being anything different from others. He is keenly aware of everything going on around him and also the microscopic and the astral world around himself. Furthermore he can feel that world around himself and thus being one of the most difficult targets for telepathy and also telepathic obfuscation. Along these lines the Bat has learnt and masters both the Sakki and Kiai. Kiai is the ability to feel the intent and thus be able to act accordingly. However Sakki is the force of the intention and with these three pillars the Bat can take the physical battle to another level, to the psychological, the mental plane. The Sakki and Kiai, completed with the mastery of Haragei can be used as physical weapons, a force of wills where every blow is even stronger than the physical ones. As a ninja and a master of haragei, Batman has learnt to cope without his sensory input, making him able to fight and function without any sort of handicap should he lose his sight or hearing, or other senses. The fact is that the Bat is far beyond the human senses and even though they are handy, they're not needed.

Chi is another facet and a tactic the Batman uses, much like Sakki, it can be projected through the combat. Batman has been shown, on numerous occasions, to be able to perform feats impossible to humans. He has been shown to kick down trees, punch through concrete and mortar walls. He has been shown to be able to lift up a stone totem that weighed over a ton. He can project his Chi out of his body and aid him physically, because of this it is no big feat for him to punch through living trees and walls. By focusing his Chi inside his body he can ignore the physical damage and pain he receives. Through his training, Batman has trained himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony. To anyone looking at the Bat, there is nothing remotely human about him other than the chin. As a Bat, when under control, he feels no emotions, no fear, no love, he is completely indifferent to the world around himself and thus he is in tune with it as Tao teaches. He flows from one motion to another in the river of life, this granting him the sixth sense, intuism he always listens to, the thing that has saved his life on many occasions.

This form, this Tao was taught to him by Mistress Shao-La in the Himalayas. Bruce Wayne had heard about a master with great power residing in the mountains and the young boy wanted to learn more. He went to the master who'd teach him the Tao and also self-control. The light side of this force would give him the control over his emotions and the ability to be in tune with the world, but it wasn't enough for him. Bruce Wayne wanted power, true power and after Shao-La told him about Master H'Sien Tan he would venture out there and learn.

From H'Sien Tan Bruce Wayne learnt the path of personal power. He learnt from the man that he had two destinies and by choosing one of them he'd receive everything he had ever wanted and the second would make him nearly omnipotent. This path would be the path of personal power he sought to avenge and to protect. In time it would also consume him. This little story is part of the package H'Sien Tan taught Bruce. The acceptance. The acceptance of one's fate, one's death and one's power. It was also a craft he taught to Bruce, to know, to feel the world and the energies around himself, to harness those energies and glean answers from them. This form of spiritualism has served Bruce well, but also it has twisted him and he has found ways to distort it, making him appear the victim even if he has wanted it. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. Also Tan taught him the way to slow down his heart, the flow of his blood, to the level of dying and yet remaining alive.

The dark forces of Tao, the greed, is a powerful mistress and because of this the person who wields these arts needs to be mentally strong to wrest the control lest it controls him in his path to power. This dark art comprises partly of alchemy and magic mixed in with the mental control and hypnotism and this is the most formidable teaching Tan had to give Bruce.

Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds, but at the same time he can push his presence inwardly and just disappear from their mind's eye, right in front of them and none will know how nor why. Furthermore he has learnt the power of suggestion, the ability to appear as something else to anyone and this is the key behind his quick costume changes and his disappearances. To add to this, his skills in these arts have given him a willpower matched by nearly none as he can ignore anything and go through stone and rock. The last skill Tan gave to Bruce was the art of the Tiger Fist, a punch so powerful it can rend through mountains, a skill, an art known to only 5 people on Earth and only 2 of them survive 'til this day.

As a ninja, a shadow assassin, Batman has been taught to use his surroundings to his advantage and so he knows when there are people in the correct vantage points, he knows how to conceal himself so that he is virtually invisible and he knows the ways to use the surroundings offensively. This lesson is part of the reason why the Bat was created in this visage. Bruce knows the hearts of the men and he can defeat them before engaging them in combat. In ancient times in Japan, the warrior caste, the Samurai, used the Ninja because their honor couldn't handle the deceitful tactics. However, Batman has no qualms with this and actually he uses quite a lot of deception as he does his work. Chu Chin Li and later on David Cain taught him the assassination tactics and skills, so he is aware of how a possible assassin will work and will think, and he can prepare against these situations.

Japanese sword fighting or Kendo is part of the Bushido class and way of life and also practiced by Batman and Bruce Wayne. From Bushido and Taothe Batman has taken the meditation skills taught to him by Shao-La for clearing his mind and his conscience, even if Alfred tends to call it brooding. Many a time the Bat has solved a case while meditating or sleeping, which is quite the same thing for him as he utilizes the sleeping techniques Shao-La taught him.

The ways of the Shadow Warrior are quite many and there are different rumors and different legends about the ninjas, and when concerning the Bat most of them hold true. However the main thing about the ninja is that they're adaptable and Batman has taken this strategy in his heart and cherishes it. He adapts to any situation and if he isn't able to conquer, he will find another way to do it.

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
No, not at all. no In the comics, Batman is a master of 127 different styles. Batman Begins should about 1/10 as much skill as the comic Batman does. Batman is unbelievable in comics in terms of fighting. I'll post this just so you can see what I mean. The following are skills that Batman has on top of his 127 styles of martial arts:

Batman is a master of Haragei, a master who has expanded his physical senses over this plane of existence to another and thus becoming hyper aware of his surroundings without appearing to really being anything different from others. He is keenly aware of everything going on around him and also the microscopic and the astral world around himself. Furthermore he can feel that world around himself and thus being one of the most difficult targets for telepathy and also telepathic obfuscation. Along these lines the Bat has learnt and masters both the Sakki and Kiai. Kiai is the ability to feel the intent and thus be able to act accordingly. However Sakki is the force of the intention and with these three pillars the Bat can take the physical battle to another level, to the psychological, the mental plane. The Sakki and Kiai, completed with the mastery of Haragei can be used as physical weapons, a force of wills where every blow is even stronger than the physical ones. As a ninja and a master of haragei, Batman has learnt to cope without his sensory input, making him able to fight and function without any sort of handicap should he lose his sight or hearing, or other senses. The fact is that the Bat is far beyond the human senses and even though they are handy, they're not needed.

Chi is another facet and a tactic the Batman uses, much like Sakki, it can be projected through the combat. Batman has been shown, on numerous occasions, to be able to perform feats impossible to humans. He has been shown to kick down trees, punch through concrete and mortar walls. He has been shown to be able to lift up a stone totem that weighed over a ton. He can project his Chi out of his body and aid him physically, because of this it is no big feat for him to punch through living trees and walls. By focusing his Chi inside his body he can ignore the physical damage and pain he receives. Through his training, Batman has trained himself to ignore exhaustion, sleep deprivation, emotions and also pain and agony. To anyone looking at the Bat, there is nothing remotely human about him other than the chin. As a Bat, when under control, he feels no emotions, no fear, no love, he is completely indifferent to the world around himself and thus he is in tune with it as Tao teaches. He flows from one motion to another in the river of life, this granting him the sixth sense, intuism he always listens to, the thing that has saved his life on many occasions.

This form, this Tao was taught to him by Mistress Shao-La in the Himalayas. Bruce Wayne had heard about a master with great power residing in the mountains and the young boy wanted to learn more. He went to the master who'd teach him the Tao and also self-control. The light side of this force would give him the control over his emotions and the ability to be in tune with the world, but it wasn't enough for him. Bruce Wayne wanted power, true power and after Shao-La told him about Master H'Sien Tan he would venture out there and learn.

From H'Sien Tan Bruce Wayne learnt the path of personal power. He learnt from the man that he had two destinies and by choosing one of them he'd receive everything he had ever wanted and the second would make him nearly omnipotent. This path would be the path of personal power he sought to avenge and to protect. In time it would also consume him. This little story is part of the package H'Sien Tan taught Bruce. The acceptance. The acceptance of one's fate, one's death and one's power. It was also a craft he taught to Bruce, to know, to feel the world and the energies around himself, to harness those energies and glean answers from them. This form of spiritualism has served Bruce well, but also it has twisted him and he has found ways to distort it, making him appear the victim even if he has wanted it. From H'Sien Tan he also learnt a way to control himself, not just his emotions but his body. Bruce is capable of, instinctually, command his body to stop bleeding, force healing on himself and even more importantly, he is able to ignore the toll exhaustion and the lack of sleep inflicts on him. Also Tan taught him the way to slow down his heart, the flow of his blood, to the level of dying and yet remaining alive.

The dark forces of Tao, the greed, is a powerful mistress and because of this the person who wields these arts needs to be mentally strong to wrest the control lest it controls him in his path to power. This dark art comprises partly of alchemy and magic mixed in with the mental control and hypnotism and this is the most formidable teaching Tan had to give Bruce.

Batman is able to force his presence on others, much like the way the Wrath of God appears. He can grow in people's minds, project his terror on them and destroy their minds, but at the same time he can push his presence inwardly and just disappear from their mind's eye, right in front of them and none will know how nor why. Furthermore he has learnt the power of suggestion, the ability to appear as something else to anyone and this is the key behind his quick costume changes and his disappearances. To add to this, his skills in these arts have given him a willpower matched by nearly none as he can ignore anything and go through stone and rock. The last skill Tan gave to Bruce was the art of the Tiger Fist, a punch so powerful it can rend through mountains, a skill, an art known to only 5 people on Earth and only 2 of them survive 'til this day.

As a ninja, a shadow assassin, Batman has been taught to use his surroundings to his advantage and so he knows when there are people in the correct vantage points, he knows how to conceal himself so that he is virtually invisible and he knows the ways to use the surroundings offensively. This lesson is part of the reason why the Bat was created in this visage. Bruce knows the hearts of the men and he can defeat them before engaging them in combat. In ancient times in Japan, the warrior caste, the Samurai, used the Ninja because their honor couldn't handle the deceitful tactics. However, Batman has no qualms with this and actually he uses quite a lot of deception as he does his work. Chu Chin Li and later on David Cain taught him the assassination tactics and skills, so he is aware of how a possible assassin will work and will think, and he can prepare against these situations.

Japanese sword fighting or Kendo is part of the Bushido class and way of life and also practiced by Batman and Bruce Wayne. From Bushido and Taothe Batman has taken the meditation skills taught to him by Shao-La for clearing his mind and his conscience, even if Alfred tends to call it brooding. Many a time the Bat has solved a case while meditating or sleeping, which is quite the same thing for him as he utilizes the sleeping techniques Shao-La taught him.

The ways of the Shadow Warrior are quite many and there are different rumors and different legends about the ninjas, and when concerning the Bat most of them hold true. However the main thing about the ninja is that they're adaptable and Batman has taken this strategy in his heart and cherishes it. He adapts to any situation and if he isn't able to conquer, he will find another way to do it.
Skills as in intelligence I meant.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
Skills as in intelligence I meant.

No, not even the movie Batman has as much brain power as the comic Batman. The comic book Batman has created all of his gadgets as well as the batcave and all of his automobiles. He's also done some crazy smart things that nobody could possibly do. All the movie adaptations of Batman fall WAY short of him in terms of brain power.

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
No, not even the movie Batman has as much brain power as the comic Batman. The comic book Batman has created all of his gadgets as well as the batcave and all of his automobiles. He's also done some crazy smart things that nobody could possibly do. All the movie adaptations of Batman fall WAY short of him in terms of brain power.
I know that, but it looks like Batman in the movie has done much more.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
I know that, but it looks like Batman in the movie has done much more.

It may seem that way to you, but the fact is that any of the movie Batmans are inferior to the comic Batman in damn near every way.

batdude123
Anyway, back on subject. About Batman having a more technologically updated suit...

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
Anyway, back on subject. About Batman having a more technologically updated suit...
I love his current suit, but what annoys me is, is his bat symmbol plain black or does it have a yellow background.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
I love his current suit, but what annoys me is, is his bat symmbol plain black or does it have a yellow background.

Yeah, those two suits for me doesn't really make a difference. I like both of them. However, I would like to see him with an advanced suit. If Batman wanted to, he could create armor like Ironman and rule ass. I'm not even saying I would want this to be a permanent change, it would just be cool for at least a little bit to see him punking everyone with a new technological suit.

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, those two suits for me doesn't really make a difference. I like both of them. However, I would like to see him with an advanced suit. If Batman wanted to, he could create armor like Ironman and rule ass. I'm not even saying I would want this to be a permanent change, it would just be cool for at least a little bit to see him punking everyone with a new technological suit.
Every episode of Batman I watch, he always get a new armor every time.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
Every episode of Batman I watch, he always get a new armor every time.

That may be in the cartoon, but I'm talking about in the comics.

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
That may be in the cartoon, but I'm talking about in the comics.
GL BATMAN OWNS ASSES.

batdude123
Originally posted by Takion
GL BATMAN OWNS ASSES.

HELL YEAH! Happy Dance

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
HELL YEAH! Happy Dance
YEAP. GL BATS>>>>>>>>HAL.

Fanboy
Read Kingdom Come that was his best costume yet.

Takion
Originally posted by Fanboy
Read Kingdom Come that was his best costume yet.
The one where Alex Ross colored it.

batdude123
Originally posted by Fanboy
Read Kingdom Come that was his best costume yet.

Yes. yes I also thought that Batman 1 Million could incredible ass as well. But honestly, I wouldn't want to see a permanet change, because the original is the coolest one. cool

Takion
Originally posted by batdude123
Yes. yes I also thought that Batman 1 Million could incredible ass as well. But honestly, I wouldn't want to see a permanet change, because the original is the coolest one. cool
HELL YEAH

Accel
Personally, I always thought it'd be cool if Bruce wore that same Batman outfit from the show "Batman Beyond"- you know, the futuristic one that could fly, become invisible, and came with other special gadgets. To me, that one seems like the perfect suit to upgrade Batman with out so far, since it gives him abilities without taking away the "Batman" aspect out of his character.

Unfortunately I don't see this ever happening in the comics.

The Fake Macoy
If I read a Batman comic, I'm reading it because I'm looking for Batman, not IronBatman... If he hasn't changed that much in decades, I see no reason for him to change now.

H. S. 6
Originally posted by batdude123
Who here thinks that with such great technology, and with such a great brain with an IQ of over 200, that Batman should have a more upgraded suit than he does? I mean the guy is a freakin genious and has created technology that people shouldn't really be able to. I think that he should have a stronger and more technologically advanced suit.

In the comic universe, he should, but his character wouldn't allow for it.

batdude123
Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
If I read a Batman comic, I'm reading it because I'm looking for Batman, not IronBatman... If he hasn't changed that much in decades, I see no reason for him to change now.

I agree with you 100%. yes I would just like to see him in a kick ass new suit if only just for a few copies or so. It's not like I want a permanent change, nothing can ever beat the original. cool

batdude123
Originally posted by H. S. 6
In the comic universe, he should, but his character wouldn't allow for it.

yes

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