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lets Try to Discuss few things as to how is the Communism different from the Democracy....... what will happen if the present system is changed and we have a Communism again.....

Well Communism is not that clearly defined. I think there were some different systems that claimed to be Communist. Most famous are the dictatorships though. But they had different forms of Republics as well.

So I guess something could be Communism and a Democracy...that would probably be the ideal even....

Originally posted by Bardock42
So I guess something could be Communism and a Democracy
*groan*

Here we go again crazy ....not really.

Originally posted by Alliance
*groan*

Here we go again crazy ....not really.

I see. Why not?

Originally posted by Alliance
*groan*

Here we go again crazy ....not really.
Well... if in a free presidential election the communist candidate wins. Wouldn't then the country technically be communist and democratic at the same time?

Originally posted by Eis
Well... if in a free presidential election the communist candidate wins. Wouldn't then the country technically be communist and democratic at the same time?

Don't argue with him, he knows everything.

Originally posted by Eis
Well... if in a free presidential election the communist candidate wins. Wouldn't then the country technically be communist and democratic at the same time?
No, the policies of the leader in a representative democracy do not dictate the policy of the government. The country would still be democratic, it may or may not be a democracy. It would not be a communist government.

Its likely that if the leader has the ability to enforce his views, the government may become more communistic. However, if the government is not already a communism, it is unlikely that the government would completely reinvent itself so "communism" becomes the noun that best describes the government. Democratic nations don't usually do that.

Well, you seem to have the false notion that communism for some reason has a leader. Well, it doesn't. That's the point of communism. That's why Communism can very well be a direct Democracy...actually that would be true communism. Anything beyond that would be Anarchy.

In Eis' scenario, a communist leader won a presidential election. THerefore, it is logical to assume that this form of government has a leader, making it not a communism.

I don't think a direct democracy would have a president. Therefore we are likely dealing with some system with some form of representational democracy or a democratic government of some sort.

SInce there is already a larger government structure in place, it means that it is unlikely that the government would become a communism. Beuracracy is often wonderful but its really...r e a l l y . . . s l o w.

Originally posted by Alliance
In Eis' scenario, a communist leader won a presidential election. THerefore, it is logical to assume that this form of government has a leader, making it not a communism.

I don't think a direct democracy would have a president. Therefore we are likely dealing with some system with some form of representational democracy or a democratic government of some sort.

SInce there is already a larger government structure in place, it means that it is unlikely that the government would become a communism. Beuracracy is often wonderful but its really...r e a l l y . . . s l o w.

That may be, but you said that a State can not be Communist and Democratic...while it can...

No...I did not say that.

the state can be a democratic communism, a communistic democracy, but not a communism and a democracy.

only one noun allowed.

A state can be a democratic form of communism.

Originally posted by Alliance
No...I did not say that.

the state can be a democratic communism, a communistic democracy, but not a communism and a democracy.

only one noun allowed.

A state can be a democratic form of communism.

Nah, you are wrong again. Two Nouns and more allowed. Cause they are not describing the same thing.

But at least you see that they are not exclusive.

accordin to the true definition of democracy it's decidin want u think will b best fr u,but in communism u don't hav a choice.still, in communism ppl did hav equal rites n get all the basic necessities of life at their door step. all r equal n every1 gets everythin.it was better in this sense that atleast every1 had equal rite n all the facilities.

Originally posted by maham
accordin to the true definition of democracy it's decidin want u think will b best fr u,but in communism u don't hav a choice.still, in communism ppl did hav equal rites n get all the basic necessities of life at their door step. all r equal n every1 gets everythin.it was better in this sense that atleast every1 had equal rite n all the facilities.

Dare I ask "what?"?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't argue with him, he knows everything.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, you are wrong again.


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Originally posted by Bardock42
Two Nouns and more allowed. Cause they are not describing the same thing.

No. All governments are described by one noun. If you think this is not the case, what are teh two different nouns describing then? clarify your position.

Originally posted by Alliance


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No. All governments are described by one noun. If you think this is not the case, what are teh two different nouns describing then? clarify your position.

Depends on what it is. Like the US for example is a Democracy and a Republic. Britain is a Democracy and a Monarchy. The Third Reich was Fascism which also happens to be a Dictatorship. East Germany used to be a Republic and a sort of Socialism also a kind of dictatorship.

CIA World Factbook:
"US: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition"
"UK: constitutional monarchy"

OK? If you wanna make outrageous claims, back it up with fact, not your own opinion. Nations have one government that is, at its core, esentially described by one word. A government is not kind of this, and kind of that...its ONE thing. Describe things accurately, not generally. You can add clarifiers if you wish to more accurately describe a government.

ex: the United States is a Republic, but incredible more accurately a "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition"

Okay...lets look at the CIA World Fact book...a there....Czech Republic.....what do they say it is "parliamentary democracy " ...wait a minute....isn't it a Republic? Strange.

No seriously...I happen to live in a Democracy. And a Republic...so that at least is bullshit. We might continue to argue about the US system...but The Federal Republic of Germany is in fact a Democracy and a Republic. TO nouns...no doubt about it...whatever your CIA says ....

It's not a democracy by Alliance's definition either, yet the factbook says it is.

That is because Alliance's position is self-contradictory and ludicrous.

There is absolutely no rule anywhere that says a Government can onlky be described with one noun. That is pure nonsense that Alliance is making up.

That makes you wrong as well, Kingdubya, because the US IS a Democracy. This continual confusion that Democracy has to mean direct rule by the people really is a simple revelation of ignorance, and any dictionary will set you straight. Representative Democracies are still Democracies. In the US, people elect their representaitves, who have political power. That meets the definition of the word 'Democracy'.

The simple demonstration of this 'a country can only be one thing' as complete and utter nonsense is this 'Constitutional Monarchy' thing. True, the UK is a Constitutional Monarchy. But those words on their own are totally inadequate in explaining the UK's government- the definition is not even close to accurate, it is actively vague. There could be a dozen different means by which that works, some of which would be in a Democracy, some of which would not.

So yes, we are a Constitutional Monarchy. But far more importantly, we are a Democracy. And once more, no amount of protest by the types of Alliance- caused by very narrow views indeed- can override the right of European countries to declare that they are democracies. Because they are.

And so yes, it is possible for a Communist country to be a Democracy also. It would very much depend on how the Communism was applied.

BTW, Kingdubya, what sovereign federation are you saying the Czech Republic belongs to?

Ush, shouldn't this be in General Discussion.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well Communism is not that clearly defined. I think there were some different systems that claimed to be Communist. Most famous are the dictatorships though. But they had different forms of Republics as well.

So I guess something could be Communism and a Democracy...that would probably be the ideal even....

Theres leninism, luxembourgism, marxism, maoism and most of all, communism! And one that begins with t. Im sure the question should be: 'Whats the difference between dictatorships and communism?' because then it wouldnt be such a silly question

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dare I ask "what?"?
Oh! plz do!

Originally posted by maham
Oh! plz do!
Okay, what?

weird thread, now was it about communism or was it about what democracy exactly is?

I hope this website helps

http://www.planetpapers.com/Assests/2112.php

oops, that site didn't work oh well I'll found some other information about this so here it is.
communist countries won the major resources and the means of production. the goal of each system is to prevent anyone from becoming radically rich while others are extremely poor. The system attempts to eliminate the lower class by balancing the wealth between rich and poor, therefore giving everyone equal pay and ownership. unfortunately, this results in an increased lower class. However in Democracy free enterprising is permitted, and smiled upon. free enterprising helps the economy flourish. people can organize their own businesses and receive their own profit if it success or debts if it fails. In this system, the harder a person works, the more money they receive, allowing them to make ends meet. the downside to democracy is that people can get a high paying job through education, but may work just as hard at a lower paying job and receive less money. In theory, everyone is equal in a communist government, however this is not true in many aspects. when any one person controls a communist government, its not far off from totalitarianism, as that one voice is the only one that really matters. In a democracy, every citizen has a equal say from the government regardless of race, education, or heritage.

I hoped this helped.

both have major flaws and both suck.... oh wait...thats a similarity