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General Grievous gets 4 lightsabers and all 4 arms. Jango gets his jetpack and all the stuff he had with him (not his ship) during his fight with Obi-Wan. This is Anakin, not Darth Vader, he gets his lightsaber. Fight takes place on Mustafar. Who wins?

Grievous and Jango. Grievous can take Anakin in a lightsaber duel while Jango shoots rockets, clingwire, ect at him. Grievous might be able to take Anakin, because Anakin isn't very good at blocking, unlike Obi-Wan. With Jango shooting random stuff at Anakin, the duo take this.

I don't think that Anakin could win this easily, if at all. The duo have too much experience and would put up a helluva fight. Anakin may be able to pull this off, but it is most likely that he loses. However, Vader from ROTS could do it, probably. When he isn't emotionally conflicted (like in his fight versus Obi Wan) his anger gives him strength and focus. He could force push Greivous out of the fight momentarily and choke Jango. Then go back and beat down Greivous.

plus, grievous's computer could predict anakin's attacks and he would alter his stance and grievous would detect jango's attacks making it seem like jango and grievous were working simultaniously

Humans can live without air for 3 minutes. Grievous won't be down for that long.

But yeah, I agree with you guys that Anakin's lose, Jango's not bad and Grievous will keep Anakin occupied while Jango shoots Anakin down.

Eh? Can't he force push Grievous (Like what Obi-Wan did) and force choke Jango?

Yes, and by choke I mean crush his throat. Also, Anakin wouldn't choke, but Vader would.

Grievous and Anakin would be going at it, and Jango would probably be flying around, or in the shadows taking shots. I say the duo win.

Anakin will be overwhelmed and taken by surprise by the sheer power of Grievous and his 4 arms. Too distracted to think about Jango shooting lasers and MISSLES at him. The duo win

grievous has four arms and obiwan had to use his luck just to be him!

I'm sure Anakin would just push Jango away with the force and then whip out Grievous as fast as Obi-Wan did. I mean Jango was having trouble against Kenobi and he was trying to catch the bounty hunter not kill him. Anakin would crush Grievous with the force and slay Jango.

Originally posted by ESB - 1138
I'm sure Anakin would just push Jango away with the force and then whip out Grievous as fast as Obi-Wan did. I mean Jango was having trouble against Kenobi and he was trying to catch the bounty hunter not kill him. Anakin would crush Grievous with the force and slay Jango.
Huh? Jango'd get pushed away for longer than 30 seconds? Huh, Anakin would crush Grievous with the Force? Just like Kenobi did? Seriously, your debate holds no water. If Anakin could crush Grievous then so could Kenobi since they're equal and if Kenobi could have he would have.

He probably could have, he just wouldn't. It would be like Kenobi force choking Jango into submission in AOTC, it's not something a Jedi would do. This is why I think Anakin would lose, but Vader would win, because of the limits set on the Jedi.

No...Anakins command of the force isn't strong enough to do that. Grievous and Jango compliment eachother perfectly. Grievous is awesome for hand 2 hand, Jango is ranged. Anakin gets pwnd.

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
grievous has four arms and obiwan had to use his luck just to be him!
Luck??? He had chopped off 2 of Grievous's "hands" and then force pushed him on the cieling. Then Grievous ran away like a little b*tch.

Just to repeat myself:

Originally posted by jollyjim311
I don't think that Anakin could win this easily, if at all. The duo have too much experience and would put up a helluva fight. Anakin may be able to pull this off, but it is most likely that he loses. However, Vader from ROTS could do it, probably. When he isn't emotionally conflicted (like in his fight versus Obi Wan) his anger gives him strength and focus. He could force push Greivous out of the fight momentarily and choke Jango. Then go back and beat down Greivous.

This isn't a really good battle. General Grievous takes most of the fighting space himself since he has four lightsabers. Jango shoots from range and requires space and target to attack anakin

I think that Anakin would have some trouble with Grievous, but qute a bit if he has to be deflecting the blaster bolts of Jango. Although this might be a canon fight, according to the ROTS Novelization, Obi-Wan won because of his Soresou. Grievous was stirking like 16 attacks per second, but Obi-Wan managed to evade or block each one, and amputate his hands. Now, this is Anakin. According to Wikipedia, Djem So and Shien are like a mixture between Makashi and Soresou. This might mean that Anakin would have a good chance of blocking Grievous's blows and at the same time manage to make the fight go faster than the defensive Obi-Wan.

Jango makes this fight more difficult. If Anakin can move fast, he can destroy Jango's jet pack with a Force Crush and quickly pull him over with the Force Pull, then slash his head off. Grievous would run over and (supposing this is ROTS movie Grievous) would be killed after a small struggle.

It depends. If this is Clone Wars Grievous, Anakin might stand a small chance of defeat due to the fact that Obi-Wan's fighting style was considered by Mace Windu and much of the Jedi Council to be the best suited in combat against Grievous

Originally posted by jollyjim311
He probably could have, he just wouldn't. It would be like Kenobi force choking Jango into submission in AOTC, it's not something a Jedi would do. This is why I think Anakin would lose, but Vader would win, because of the limits set on the Jedi.
Mace did it. Yoda, who's a better Jedi than Kenobi, was willing to kill Sidious. Obi-Wan was going for the kill, not the capture, and at this point the Jedi really didn;t care how Grievoud died, just that he did die.
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Yeah, but they won't make them suffer. A jedi would mind trick for info, but not torture, same thing. Defend himself/others with a lightsaber, but not choke someone to death.

Anakin Skywalker is Geforce 2 MX
Darth Vader is Geforce 2 GTI


I don't think Anakin has enough offensive power to take this fight.

You guys underestimate Jango and Grievous Grievous was going toe to toe with MACE WINDU, and killed more Jedi than Vader did personally. (I mean with a lightsaber). Obi-Wan was ideally suited to go against him. Anakin....is not. Jango is incredibly skilled 2, and would make a big difference. The duo takes this.

I'm not sure how well either group would do, but in the end Anakin is dead and Grievous and Jango walk away. However if it was ROTS Vader I think Vader would win it given that we've seen the crippling effects of Force Lightning on cybernetics.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Yeah, but they won't make them suffer. A jedi would mind trick for info, but not torture, same thing. Defend himself/others with a lightsaber, but not choke someone to death.
Mace, one of the senior members of the Jedi Council, did.

Jango and grievous have both killed jedi FAR more powerful than anakin, this goes to grievous because he nearly created his own vaapad form, jango killed master Syfo -Dias, and grivous fought five jedi at once in the laberynth book he fought through arc troopers and red guards

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
Jango and grievous have both killed jedi FAR more powerful than anakin, this goes to grievous because he nearly created his own vaapad form, jango killed master Syfo -Dias, and grivous fought five jedi at once in the laberynth book he fought through arc troopers and red guards

If it came down to pure power though then Grievous wouldn't have lost to Kenobi given that Anakin is more powerful than Kenobi as are many of the Jedi Grievous was successful against. Jango also had trouble against Obi-Wan who was weaker than ROTS Anakin.

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
Jango and grievous have both killed jedi FAR more powerful than anakin, this goes to grievous because he nearly created his own vaapad form, jango killed master Syfo -Dias, and grivous fought five jedi at once in the laberynth book he fought through arc troopers and red guards
Who has Jango or Grievous killed that are FAR more powerful than Anakin?

Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
Jango and grievous have both killed jedi FAR more powerful than anakin, this goes to grievous because he nearly created his own vaapad form, jango killed master Syfo -Dias, and grivous fought five jedi at once in the laberynth book he fought through arc troopers and red guards

I thought Dooku killed Syfo DIas?

Dooku did kill Syfo Dyas, DarthMaul9123 just has the facts wrong.

Sorry for the double post, I messed up between the edit and quote button and posted on accident.

Originally posted by DarthSaboteur
Dooku did kill Syfo Dyas, DarthMaul9123 just has the facts wrong.

I figured. Thx Sorgo!

I'm not Sorgo, and RotS Anakin might win this 6/10.

Jango and Grievous win. I can't see Anakin blocking SIXTEEN lightsaber strikes a second. I just can't....

Kenobi did, and Anakin was the better duelist.

It will be close but I see Anakin coming out on top. I think that he would be able to dispose of Grievous pretty quickly with the force.

Originally posted by Razielim
Kenobi did, and Anakin was the better duelist.

Obi-Wan is specialized in defence, he was THE Soresu master, and a Soresu master was said to be invincible....

Originally posted by kamikz
Obi-Wan is specialized in defence, he was THE Soresu master, and a Soresu master was said to be invincible....

Apparently not because Dooku tools him. Twice.

Unless you were referring to blocking Grevious' sabers, then there would be a difference between Kenobi facing Grevious, and Anakin facing him.

To be fair... Dooku tools him with the force.

Soresu masters are not invincible, but they are known to drag out fights for far longer than they should be.

eg, if Mace fought Obi-Wan, Kenobi would hang in there for a while. Even if he's painfully outclassed and has no hope of winning.


Obi-Wan is specialized in defence, he was THE Soresu master, and a Soresu master was said to be invincible....

The thing is, Kenobi's defense was evenly matched with an emotionally-conflicted Anakin's offense. Kenobi won the fight not by wearing Grievous out; but by cutting off his arms.

That, and he force pushed GG around.

Originally posted by Motoko Sama
Apparently not because Dooku tools him. Twice.

Unless you were referring to blocking Grevious' sabers, then there would be a difference between Kenobi facing Grevious, and Anakin facing him.

I didn't say "are invincible", I said, "were said". They had an awefully good defence and Obi-Wan was noted to be THE Soresu master...

Originally posted by DarthSaboteur
Dooku did kill Syfo Dyas, DarthMaul9123 just has the facts wrong.
oh you're right sorry, but then how did he decide that he wanted jango? you know for the clone templates.

It went like this: Syfo Dyas goes to Kamino, does his shizzle. Everything's goin' all cool 'til Dooku --sent by Sidious-- pwns him, then he uses Jango Fett as the clone template and everything goes from there.

well, grievous almost killed ki adi mundi and would have had the ARCs not shown up and he took on 5 jedi at once which in my opinion is almost equivalent to fighting mace, but when grievous fought on the train in laberynth of evil his computers adapted to maces fighting style, but mace barely got out a force push, and Jango would have faired much better against mace had he had more than just a pistol

Originally posted by DePWNZOR
Jango and Grievous win. I can't see Anakin blocking SIXTEEN lightsaber strikes a second. I just can't....


Well, Durge did say that Anakin was the fastest Jedi he'd ever "killed" (even though Durge ended up burning up in a star), and that includes Obi Wan.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Well, Durge did say that Anakin was the fastest Jedi he'd ever "killed" (even though Durge ended up burning up in a star), and that includes Obi Wan.
How does that include Obi-Wan? he never killed Obi-Wan.

Oh, stupid me, I was thinking he meant thought. Anakin is probably faster, though.

Yes, because he fought Anakin 5 months before ROTS and he fought Obi-Wan 4 months after AOTC. I doubt anyone'd deny that Obsession Anakin could beat 4 months after AOTC Obi-Wan.

True, true. But the fact remains that Durge saying that does say a lot for Anakins' speed. He could probably keep up with General Greivous for a little while in a lightsaber fight, probably long enough to get a force push against him. However, with Jango there, he'll be shooting every opportunity he gets. Anakin would be shot by Jango when trying to get rid of Greivous, or chopped by Greivous when making an attack against Jango.

Adding to my arguement that I made on the first page, I'd like to agree with however said that it depends on how far away they are, and if anyone said anything about location, I agree.

If they are far away, Anakin could probably Force-Crush the helmet of Jango, or do something to get rid of the weapons. He could probably also toss Jango at Grievous, who would either chop up the helpless bounty hunter to avoid being hit, or move away, making himself vunerable to a Force-Push on Anakin's part.

Jangos helmat is mandalorian armor. he cant crush it. Jango, in all his armor, weighs a lot! anakin was never shown to force push anything heavy from many feet away. No the duo wins.

However his force push is shown to equal Obi-Wan's in ROTS, and Obi-Wan sent Grievous flying. I say Anakin does this with the force quite easily.

Obi wan was two feet away from GG. If he tries that on Jango or GG than he would be instantly killed by the other one. They both have amazing reflexes.

Originally posted by Darth Avis
Jangos helmat is mandalorian armor. he cant crush it. Jango, in all his armor, weighs a lot! anakin was never shown to force push anything heavy from many feet away. No the duo wins.

Oh. Okay, well....

Anakin snatches his guns, then crushes (?) Jango's rocket thing!

Anakin can't keep up with Grievous in a straight lightsaber fight, especially with Jango blasting away at him. He just can't block like Obi-Wan can.

Originally posted by Council#13
Oh. Okay, well....

Anakin snatches his guns, then crushes (?) Jango's rocket thing! anakin couldnt even kill padme. HE IS NOT THAT STRONG IN THE DARKSIDE YET. if he cant crush a throat he cant crush a very strong jet pack.

Originally posted by Darth Avis
anakin couldnt even kill padme. HE IS NOT THAT STRONG IN THE DARKSIDE YET. if he cant crush a throat he cant crush a very strong jet pack.

Ummm sarcasm? (sorry if it was hard to pick out though!)

He ripped through durastell with the force when he was still a padawan. As of ROTS he could crush a jetpack, but the opportunity probably wouldn't be given to him.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
He ripped through durastell with the force when he was still a padawan.
When?

www.swcomics.com won't work for me right now, so I don't have a link. Anyway, it's Republic Comics #50, Defense of Kamino. When Anakin, Obi, Shakk Ti, and an ARC trooper are defending the third generation of clones. Look it up, maybe it'll work on your computer.

And Grievous is going to sit there while Anakin makes feeble attempts to crush Jango's helmet?

Excellent, if sarcastic point. It really depends on how far away everyone is