Thor and Beta Ray Bill vs Superman and Manhunter

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Malo
Thor
BRB

vs

Superman
Manhunter ....no fire weakness


No BFR....No prep....Who wins?

Darth Martin
Team DC

branhole
i think that thor and brb stand together and fire off 2 godlast that shoulddo it. but otherwise it would be a long fight if brb fought supes instead because he is more ferocious and like supes has already beaten thor.thor vs mm i dont know, but im rooting for thor to pull 1 out. and if thor does beat him he can go and help out brb.

branhole
thor and beta ray bill 6/10

it would be an incredible fight and a great comic or comics.

bherrle
Superman and MM. MM's intangibility, invisibility, mental powers, and shapeshifting would be overwhelming for either one.

Supes has already beaten Thor while on Marvel Earth.

This time, Supes would simply unload on Thor with Heat vision instead of slugging it out with him, then after he was weakened simply pummel him unconscious.

Validus
Martian Manhunter being within a mile radius of an S shield is going to lower his stats and intelligence incredibly. Say goodbye to the strong and versatile MM and hello to a cowering twit.

Thor and BRB win this 2 on 1.

bherrle
I've seen MM do some crazy sh!t with Superman around. So here is the most likely scenario:

Supes and Thir recognize eachother and Thor wants a rematch... this time, Supes knows his strengths and weaknesses, and he knows that slugging it out will only wear him down.

So he just unloads with heat vision-which was shown to hurt Thor pretty well-and wears him down. Also, he can move faster than light, which Thor is unaware of... so after softening him up he punches him faster than light, and his speed coupled with the increase of mass kills Thor, or at least takes him out of the fight for good.

MM, meanwhile, would be able to at LEAST give BRB a hell of a fight, and if he's vulnerable to telekinesis this fight is over before it started If not, Supes and MM dogpile him and send him the way of the dodo.

Mr. Universe
Superman and MM. That is of course if we are talking about classic thor.

UniOmni
Or we can try this. Superman unloads hv full blast. Thor absorbs it, and redirects it times ten at MM. MM being a martian, and as vally said, within a mile radius of an S shield, forgets that he can go intangible. He is reduced to ash, and Superman faces two fresh combatants. Him vs Thor is always a good up in the air match. Him vs Thor and BRB is a curbstomp of ghastly proportions. If only that S shield didn't shine to brightly.....................

Validus
Originally posted by bherrle
I've seen MM do some crazy sh!t with Superman around.
So have I. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for J'onn screaming like a little girl during Our Worlds At War, Superman wouldn't have known he needed to save the day in the first place.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by UniOmni
Or we can try this. Superman unloads hv full blast. Thor absorbs it, and redirects it times ten at MM. MM being a martian, and as vally said, within a mile radius of an S shield, forgets that he can go intangible. He is reduced to ash, and Superman faces two fresh combatants. Him vs Thor is always a good up in the air match. Him vs Thor and BRB is a curbstomp of ghastly proportions. If only that S shield didn't shine to brightly..................... laughing He can always use the plastic S from Superman 2

bherrle
"Or we can try this. Superman unloads hv full blast. Thor absorbs it, and redirects it times ten at MM. MM being a martian, and as vally said, within a mile radius of an S shield, forgets that he can go intangible. He is reduced to ash, and Superman faces two fresh combatants. Him vs Thor is always a good up in the air match. Him vs Thor and BRB is a curbstomp of ghastly proportions. If only that S shield didn't shine to brightly....................."

Like Thor did the LAST TIME they fought... wait...

Anyway, fine... Superman can beat Thor h2h, and MM is much more versatile than BRB.

Superman and MM 8-9/10.

Again, neither Thor nor BRB are aware of Superman's speed. I don't wanna copout with "speed blitz", but it's true... if he wanted he'd destroy Thor.

Mr.V
Originally posted by bherrle
"Or we can try this. Superman unloads hv full blast. Thor absorbs it, and redirects it times ten at MM. MM being a martian, and as vally said, within a mile radius of an S shield, forgets that he can go intangible. He is reduced to ash, and Superman faces two fresh combatants. Him vs Thor is always a good up in the air match. Him vs Thor and BRB is a curbstomp of ghastly proportions. If only that S shield didn't shine to brightly....................."

Like Thor did the LAST TIME they fought... wait...

Anyway, fine... Superman can beat Thor h2h, and MM is much more versatile than BRB.

Superman and MM 8-9/10.

Again, neither Thor nor BRB are aware of Superman's speed. I don't wanna copout with "speed blitz", but it's true... if he wanted he'd destroy Thor.

You sir are a goddamn idiot.
Thor/BRB 6/10
MM is the weak link, once hes gone BRB and Thor team Supes. big grin

bherrle
Mr. V, do you even KNOW MM's powers? In "Trial by Fire" MM became lethal and basically killed the entire JLA without breaking a sweat.

If everyone is using full potential here, MM alone would curbstomp both of them. He'd turn their brains into jell-o pudding.

Big Sexy
If evey one is using there full potential than this is RKT, then he curbstomps MM

Validus
Originally posted by Big Sexy
If evey one is using there full potential than this is RKT, then he curbstomps MM
That's not full potential though. That's Thor with more power than he ever would have had normally. It's like saying The Spectre is Hal Jordan's full potential.

Mr.V
Originally posted by bherrle
Mr. V, do you even KNOW MM's powers? In "Trial by Fire" MM became lethal and basically killed the entire JLA without breaking a sweat.

If everyone is using full potential here, MM alone would curbstomp both of them. He'd turn their brains into jell-o pudding.

EDIT- guess not stick out tongue

UniOmni
Bherrle............
You do know that Thor outside of the Avengers books is very capable?? Like how he absorbed Kangs energy blast, and returned it times ten?? Thor gets dumbed down for the sake of the team. Fact.
Like how BRB absorbed all the energy Stardust put out, and returned it vastly stronger?? Whatever BRB can do with the hammer, Thor has already done.
And the hammers go faster than light. Superman has to acclerate to reach that point. Its not instant. And Fernus would get absorbed by the hammers. This is a bad matchup. When in a team setting, the S shield often renders its teammates ineffective.

Validus
Not teammates, just J'onn.

MJOILNIR
Thor has a strong psyce a lot stronger than people realize. Everyone thinks that Thors just gonna get mindfrigged. I dont think its as easy as that. Mjolnirs energy powers are a lot more than people realize to.

UniOmni
Don't have many tpbs on JLA, but you may be right vally. It seems to occur to those teammates who are potentially more powerful than Superman..........Interesting huh?

MJOILNIR
Thor has withstood moondragons mind blast as well as man beast(?) Mjolnir can produce solar flares, transmigrate souls and contain and redirect more energy than almost any character can generate.

Validus
Originally posted by UniOmni
Don't have many tpbs on JLA, but you may be right vally. It seems to occur to those teammates who are potentially more powerful than Superman..........Interesting huh?
Most of the time, sure.

The majority of Kyle's top feats come from JLA books. Wally is usually taken out first or becomes the deadly speedster we all know he is.

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