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Who wins?

I'll go with captain america. More expirience. TB's dead.

Original T-Brid could take Cap is he was still alive to day IMO, but as he was when he died, he loses.

How strong,fast,and how much punishment can T-Bird take.

T-Bird is basicly Wolverine without claws

Cap 9/10

In that case CA 8/10 w/sheild.

Originally posted by Grimm22
T-Bird is basicly Wolverine without claws

Cap 9/10 Thunderbird was faster and stronger than Wolverine. Good tracker (Not as good as Wolverine) and his body tissue was many time denser than a humans, making him pretty durable.

Thunderbird should win since he outclasses Cap in every one of the stats, but he did have a wicked temper which Cap would use against him. Of course Thunderbird would probably give Cap a hell of a fight since he represents the government that destroyed the Apache nation through the white man's tricks.

Originally posted by riceroost
Thunderbird was faster and stronger than Wolverine. Good tracker (Not as good as Wolverine) and his body tissue was many time denser than a humans, making him pretty durable.

Thunderbird should win since he outclasses Cap in every one of the stats, but he did have a wicked temper which Cap would use against him. Of course Thunderbird would probably give Cap a hell of a fight since he represents the government that destroyed the Apache nation through the white man's tricks.

Wolverine got the better of Thunderbird in there incounters and he did so with out using his claws. Cap should win the majority.

Originally posted by riceroost
Thunderbird was faster and stronger than Wolverine. Good tracker (Not as good as Wolverine) and his body tissue was many time denser than a humans, making him pretty durable.

Thunderbird should win since he outclasses Cap in every one of the stats, but he did have a wicked temper which Cap would use against him. Of course Thunderbird would probably give Cap a hell of a fight since he represents the government that destroyed the Apache nation through the white man's tricks.

Are you kidding me?!? Your going to bring up the race card here?!? Seriously if America hadnt "destroyed" the Apache nation then there wouldnt be the America that we know and love today. Besides they all have casinos now so whats the big deal.


Also, TB is stronger than Wolverine, but not faster. That and Cap is still smarter, more skilled, more experience and debateably faster

Originally posted by Grimm22
Are you kidding me?!? Your going to bring up the race card here?!? Seriously if America hadnt "destroyed" the Apache nation then there wouldnt be the America that we know and love today. Besides they all have casinos now so whats the big deal.

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I wasn't bringing up the race card. I am white. I was merely giving a response as Thunder Bird would have given it. Go read Giant Sized X-Men # 4. Wolverine tricks the X-Men into a fight in the danger room and I think Thunderbird says, "More of the White Man's tricks!!"
Anyway, you can't deny that American settlers destroyed the Native American culture. Who's to say our way was any better than the Native American's way of life?
Originally posted by Grimm22
Also, TB is stronger than Wolverine, but not faster. That and Cap is still smarter, more skilled, more experience and debateably faster No, Thunderbird was faster than Wolverine. Wolverine has enhanced speed, TB had Super Speed.

There is also no indication that Cap is smarter than Thunderbird. You can't back up that argument. Cap is more level headed though. Cap is in no way, shape, or form faster than Thunderbird either.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine got the better of Thunderbird in there incounters and he did so with out using his claws. Cap should win the majority. I think you are talking about Warpath, Thunderbird's younger brother. Thunderbird was likely a better fighter than Warpath. He had military training, which Warpath did not have. Wolverine did get the better of Thunderbird in Giant Size X-Men # 4, but he did use Colossus to electrocute TB.

But yeah, Wolverine was stompin him before the knock out gas took effect.

TB could out run Wolverine. Could he throw more punches in a minute then Wolverine? I doubt it.

Originally posted by riceroost
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I wasn't bringing up the race card. I am white. I was merely giving a response as Thunder Bird would have given it. Go read Giant Sized X-Men # 4. Wolverine tricks the X-Men into a fight in the danger room and I think Thunderbird says, "More of the White Man's tricks!!"
Anyway, you can't deny that American settlers destroyed the Native American culture. Who's to say our way was any better than the Native American's way of life?
No, Thunderbird was faster than Wolverine. Wolverine has enhanced speed, TB had Super Speed.

There is also no indication that Cap is smarter than Thunderbird. You can't back up that argument. Cap is more level headed though. Cap is in no way, shape, or form faster than Thunderbird either.

Cap is arguably the smartest tactition in the MU

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
TB could out run Wolverine. Could he throw more punches in a minute then Wolverine? I doubt it. Hard to say. We saw so little of Thunderbird we'll never know.

I don't think TB could beat him, since he seemed to have such an inferiority complex when he compared himself to Wolverine. But he only ever admitted Wolverine was a better tracker, tougher, and better at stealth.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Cap is arguably the smartest tactition in the MU It's easy to be a good tactitian when all you have to do to win a battle is say, "Hey Thor, go hit that guy in the head with your hammer."

Originally posted by riceroost
It's easy to be a good tactitian when all you have to do to win a battle is say, "Hey Thor, go hit that guy in the head with your hammer."

Wow, I would slap you in the face with a fish if I knew where you were

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wow, I would slap you in the face with a fish if I knew where you were
10111 Bracken Drive
Ellicott City MD 21042

Bring it. I've got Wolverine's movie prop claws and my Uncle is a gun freak.