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they have both beat thor, but which one would win. Im going with beta ray bill because he is a more ferocious fighter, and he beat thor before he had stormbreaker. and he has all the powers of thor, but thats my opinion.

looks like beta wins.

ill say beta ray bill, will take him out, i mean hes beat thor on his normal powers, he should beat this gladiator clone, with his own powers.

yep,brb wins all right. guess people dont want to admit supes loses

I just didn't want to respond because the thread maker was not respected on this forum. You should change your avatar so people don't associate you with Branhole. BRB has the tools and skill to put down Superman and Superman has enough to take BRB out. I'll say this fight is a draw.

that was an awsome avatar too, but i heard that that guy was really cool.

Originally posted by bigbran
that was an awsome avatar too, but i heard that that guy was really cool.
Yeah, he actually was. There was never a dull moment on the forum when he was posting. Maybe somebody can fill his shoes.

maybe if someone came back with the same avatar and kinda the had the same name, they could do it.

Originally posted by bigbran
maybe if someone came back with the same avatar and kinda the had the same name, they could do it.

i never met him though, i came a day after he got banned.

What a coincidence!

yes it would seem that way.

Originally posted by bigbran
i never met him though, i came a day after he got banned.
It all due to the Tug of War thread and Hulk=Strength.

that was hilarious when i was.....um.....reading it.

that hulk=strength was an ahole i hear.

That thread was like watching a train wreck. I couldn't turn away from it.

i couldnt stop pos..... reading

Yep it was a just a matter of time beforgiljotiini Anyway Bill wins

damn supes is getting up there in the polls.

Read Stormbreaker. Bill is a beast.

I really don't see why Thor is said to be more powerful.

It certainly doesn't show on panel.

i know, can you post pics, just show these supes voter.

Thor + Horse = Bill = Awesome

Supes is about to hit the hay

Pun intended

Originally posted by bigbran
ill say beta ray bill, will take him out, i mean hes beat thor on his normal powers, he should beat this gladiator clone, with his own powers. I thought Gladiator was a Superman clone...

bill,ss,deadpool are the best heroes ever.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
I thought Gladiator was a Superman clone...
not anymore.

Bill wins and turns superman to glue to get revenge for his horse friends

It still wouldn't be easy for Bill.

how cum the supes fans arent presenting there arguements.

Maybe they cant find one to the contrary

the poll says 69.

Originally posted by bigbran
how cum the supes fans arent presenting there arguements. Maybe it's because your doing such a good job of presenting yours you scared the Superman fans away.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Read Stormbreaker. Bill is a beast.

I really don't see why Thor is said to be more powerful.

It certainly doesn't show on panel.

what's bill done that thor hasn't? and thor has godforce. no such luck for bill. and control of elements WITHOUT hammer. and warrior madness (that he can ltierally fall into at anytime he chooses -- all he needs ot do is go bloodlust and let it take him over) why he didn't at least use storm control when he was battling bill without hammers that first time is, was and always will remain a mystery. but if he had TRULT wanted to win that fight, no way bill would have won. AND they were fighting in an environment more conducive to bill. AND bill woke up first -- the fight was a draw but the environment (again suited to bill by odin's choice) allowed him to recover first.

bill IS cool. very, very cool. stormbreaker was a great mini. bill would make this very tough on supes.

but thor is tougher than bill. supes took him out.

besides, when i read all the, er, great points and arguments listed in this thread i got all, like, intimidated and stuff.

Not like Stormbreaker is a typical showing for Beta Ray Bill. I know DC has posted a scan where he was laid out by Namor...

Originally posted by leonidas
what's bill done that thor hasn't? and thor has godforce. no such luck for bill. and control of elements WITHOUT hammer. and warrior madness (that he can ltierally fall into at anytime he chooses -- all he needs ot do is go bloodlust and let it take him over) why he didn't at least use storm control when he was battling bill without hammers that first time is, was and always will remain a mystery. but if he had TRULT wanted to win that fight, no way bill would have won. AND they were fighting in an environment more conducive to bill. AND bill woke up first -- the fight was a draw but the environment (again suited to bill by odin's choice) allowed him to recover first.

bill IS cool. very, very cool. stormbreaker was a great mini. bill would make this very tough on supes.

but thor is tougher than bill. supes took him out.

besides, when i read all the, er, great points and arguments listed in this thread i got all, like, intimidated and stuff. Bill was blowing up planets in his fight with Stardust. Thor doesn't come close.

Thor using Warrior Madness doesn't count. That's out of his character.

Thor is tougher than Bill? That's debateable.

Supe's beat Thor once. That doesn't mean he owns him. We'll see what happens in the next JLA/Avengers.

bill is tough

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Bill was blowing up planets in his fight with Stardust. Thor doesn't come close.

Thor using Warrior Madness doesn't count. That's out of his character.

Thor is tougher than Bill? That's debateable.

Supe's beat Thor once. That doesn't mean he owns him. We'll see what happens in the next JLA/Avengers.

thor can't blow up a planet? gladiator can blow up a planet. hulk can. bill can. thor can. good guys tend not to go around doing so however . . .

i wasn't comparing wmt to bill. i said wm is one more reason thor>bill overall in power-level. if he goes bloodlusted he does go mad. all wm is is a really po'd thor. people always want to seperate thor and wmt. wmt thor IS thor. not like he's tapping some power. the power is in thor, he just rarely uses it because of the damage he might cause. he's too responsible to use it often.

Dont even count JLA/ Avengers, thats one of the biggest bull stories which is with most crossovers.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Supe's beat Thor once. That doesn't mean he owns him. We'll see what happens in the next JLA/Avengers.
The same thing.

Superman won't lose in a crossover. Same with Batman.

Originally posted by Validus
The same thing.

Superman won't lose in a crossover. Same with Batman. I agree, the iconship will keep them from loosing.

Clark has what it takes to take out BRB. I don't think he'd win the majority, but he could take 2-4/10.

...what's really scary is if Clark is able to wrestle away Stormbreaker from BRB's grip. Would he be allowed to pick it up, like Mojilnor?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Bill was blowing up planets in his fight with Stardust. Thor doesn't come close.

Thor using Warrior Madness doesn't count. That's out of his character.

Thor is tougher than Bill? That's debateable.

Supe's beat Thor once. That doesn't mean he owns him. We'll see what happens in the next JLA/Avengers.
The whole Warrior-Madness thing kind of confuses me. Is that the state Thor enters when he lets loose, or is it from an outside influence?

Originally posted by leonidas
thor can't blow up a planet? gladiator can blow up a planet. hulk can. bill can. thor can. good guys tend not to go around doing so however . . .

i wasn't comparing wmt to bill. i said wm is one more reason thor>bill overall in power-level. if he goes bloodlusted he does go mad. all wm is is a really po'd thor. people always want to seperate thor and wmt. wmt thor IS thor. not like he's tapping some power. the power is in thor, he just rarely uses it because of the damage he might cause. he's too responsible to use it often.


Thor destroyed a planet twice on two differnt occassions, one planet he destroyed with one hit from the hammer. And Thor is little bit more durable tha BRB by hair. BRB will beat superman down with stormbreaker and turing the man of steel into a pile sh**.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Read Stormbreaker. Bill is a beast.

I really don't see why Thor is said to be more powerful.

It certainly doesn't show on panel.


Thor overall is more powerful than BRB, Thor holds back alot. Thor powers are greater he is a son of skyfather and elder god, WMT is apart of him he doesn't go WM all the time only as the last resort. Thor feats are off the charts compare to BRB and like both, Classic Thor rapes BRB.

BRB wins 7/10 against the man of steel.

Bill has slightly less versatility with Stormbreaker than Thor does with Mjolnir, but his magic-based attack - along with incredible fighting spirit - would help him win 5-6/10.

Superman 7/10.

Bill has nothing that neither Thor or any other magical opponent has tried/failed. Superman wielded Mjolnir himself for a few centuries.

Speed/Strength advantage Superman.

Originally posted by Validus
The same thing.

Superman won't lose in a crossover. Same with Batman. Venom defeated Supes once. So did He-Man they say..................

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Venom defeated Supes once. So did He-Man they say..................

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Venom defeated Supes once. So did He-Man they say..................
That was when Superman had a mullet so he screwed himself there.

he will neverlose again,in a crossover, prob in his own comics, this guy is too fan based, the writers would prob get hate mail,if he lost.

Originally posted by bigbran
he will neverlose again,in a crossover, prob in his own comics, this guy is too fan based, the writers would prob get hate mail,if he lost.
I'm pretty the Thor fanboys wrote more emails after JLA/Avengers #2 than Superman fanboys ever have. I recall Busiek claiming he received death threats.

What!? Superman has the most fanboys everpile

Originally posted by Validus
I'm pretty the Thor fanboys wrote more emails after JLA/Avengers #2 than Superman fanboys ever have. I recall Busiek claiming he received death threats. Damn are you serious. Damn and I thought the trekkies are deprived people.

Originally posted by badabing
I don't want to hear the "Superman has too many fanboys for him to loose" argument. It's rediculous.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/VenomandSuperman.jpg

Originally posted by BobbyD
...what's really scary is if Clark is able to wrestle away Stormbreaker from BRB's grip. Would he be allowed to pick it up, like Mojilnor?

He wouldn't be allowed to even hold the Stormbreaker. The case in point, in JLA/Avengers that was a special time. Odin had rescinded the enchantment for a little while. After the fight with Krona ended, Supes could not even budge it after that. You think Supes is any more worthy to hold it now?

that was prob why they made him stop losing, ands thats why they told the fanboys that he was weakened. they tried to make him lose once, you notice how he hasnt really lost since his fight with venom?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't want to hear the "Superman has too many fanboys for him to loose" argument. It's rediculous.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/VenomandSuperman.jpg
Who was Venom merged with in that comic?

Originally posted by bigbran
that was prob why they made him stop losing, ands thats why they told the fanboys that he was weakened. they tried to make him lose once, you notice how he hasnt really lost since his fight with venom?
How many crossover fights has Supes had since that Venom fight?

Originally posted by bigbran
you notice how he hasnt really lost since his fight with venom? I notice alot of things. But that's another story............

Originally posted by badabing
Who was Venom merged with in that comic? Eddie if I remember right.

well im saying the writers got bitched at, and they prob never wanted him to lose again.

Originally posted by the Darkone
BRB will beat superman down with stormbreaker and turing the man of steel into a pile sh**. Another classic from you.

Originally posted by Validus
How many crossover fights has Supes had since that Venom fight?
Yet he has never lost since? I hate him so much blowup
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Originally posted by Broly92
Yet he has never lost since? I hate him so much blowup
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The only crossover fight he's had since is with Thor.

Originally posted by Validus
The only crossover fight he's had since is with Thor. With Marvel anyways, he's had crossovers with many other companies.

Originally posted by Validus
The only crossover fight he's had since is with Thor. Actually he stalemated Savage Hulk(while not trying).

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Eddie if I remember right.
Eddie Brock held off Spidey with one hand and gave Superman a pimp slap with the other? That's sounds a bit crazy

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually he stalemated Savage Hulk(while not trying).
actully it said he tried as hard as he can in that fight. and your knoledge is a little off, because i remember him knocking hulk out cold..

Imo, Superman's speed trumps BRB's raw power. Superman takes the majority.

theres that speed again.

Superman + speed= Shut Up please

Originally posted by Broly92
Superman + speed= Shut Up please

Dragon Ball Z=Retarded

Originally posted by bigbran
actully it said he tried as hard as he can in that fight. and your knoledge is a little off, because i remember him knocking hulk out cold.. Actually your knowledge is off a tad. In the 1999 crossover Superman didn't want to fight Hulk. Hulk was trying to hurt Supes but failed.

Your talking about the 1996 fight which happened before the Supes/Venom fight.

batman + me=fishchair
death then I kill you

Originally posted by Broly92
batman + me=fishchair
death then I kill you

So Batman + You = Batman kicks your ass?

Yes but then I beg and stap him in the head and kill you2guns

Originally posted by Broly92
Yes but then I beg and stap him in the head and kill you2guns

So you beg like a girl for him not to beat on you anymore?

No I beg him not to have a loser fanboy like you and stab him in the head and kill you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just Kidding but come on Dbz=Awesome

Originally posted by Broly92
No I beg him not to have a loser fanboy like you and stab him in the head and kill you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just Kidding but come on Dbz=Awesome

Nah, I don't watch that kind of crap.

Come on this off topic and I like it and always will so stop insulting I apologize for making fun of Batman but if you continue to make me angry well lets just say you won't like me when I'm angry

Originally posted by Broly92
Come on this off topic and I like it and always will so stop insulting I apologize for making fun of Batman but if you continue to make me angry well lets just say you won't like me when I'm angry

So you turn into the Hulk?

No stronger and faster with energy blasts Brolly

Originally posted by Broly92
No stronger and faster with energy blasts Brolly

Ah.

bill, can do it.
brb 6/10

Hopefully in the next crossover, Thor will face Wonder Woman and Superman will face Sentry while Captain Marvel fights Gladiator.

that would be cool, but you know supes is going to win.