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i dont know all that much about genis and his powers, but thair fairly diverse seemingly, and i made a thread a while back with him vs superman and quite a few people thought hed win, so who takes it out of him and the surfer?

I'd say Genis-Vell.

Genis is really strong, but I have to think the Surfer would find a way to beat him. I am assuming surfer is actually trying and not holding back (like he always does)

I'm not sure, since Genis has some feats that are pretty crazy. I think that Genis could win this.

genis vell has hidden powers dont he?

whats genis vells stength level, ive seen him punch over meastro. is it in the class 50s.

SS would take this fight, his far more exp. and think he prob. rivals Genis in powerset.

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The new SS herald to Galactus would owned Genis.....Just got an upgrade as if he was not powerfull enough.

when was this

Annihillation SS #3

Genis beats typical SS. That energy shunting ability would come in handy.

Originally posted by Validus
Genis beats typical SS. That energy shunting ability would come in handy.
Maybe but Genis does have durability issues......

Originally posted by Rols
Annihillation SS #3 Now I definitely got to pick iy up

I'll go with SS Nice sig Skeets

Originally posted by Skeets
Maybe but Genis does have durability issues......
Only when he's not ready. His shields are some of the best out there.

As for the Atlas thing, I use to think it was a low showing but Atlas is being written like a total champ now.

Originally posted by Validus
Only when he's not ready. His shields are some of the best out there.

As for the Atlas thing, I use to think it was a low showing but Atlas is being written like a total champ now.
I wouldn't know I dropped the book after they killed off Genis.
Or are you talking about those ok showings he's had?

No doubt his shields are top notch but that wouldn't save him from an ass whooping and you can count out that tactic he used on Sentry.

I'm being a little biased I know..jockey

Maybe you should have read the issues you have better. jockey

Atlas effortlessly dropped Hyperion, his entire Thunderbolts team, easily restrained Namor and crushed an Ionic Pym particle enhanced "Giant Man". Easily at the top of the top tier as far as strength goes.

Besides, as far as raw power goes I think Genis has Surfer beat. The narration in the Sentry fight described them as unleashing planet destroying energy while holding back.

Originally posted by Validus
Maybe you should have read the issues you have better. jockey

Atlas effortlessly dropped Hyperion, his entire Thunderbolts team, easily restrained Namor and crushed an Ionic Pym particle enhanced "Giant Man". Easily at the top of the top tier as far as strength goes.

Besides, as far as raw power goes I think Genis has Surfer beat. The narration in the Sentry fight described them as unleashing planet destroying energy while holding back.
Those aren't that impressive really those feats are all within his powerset.
Was Genis really holding back he hardly has control in the first place.

And if Zemo can take him Surfer can too.......

But in all seriousness Genis should take him as he does have the so-called universe destroying power (even though it was never shown exactly how he was to destroy the universe)
The fight's very close imo.......jockey

Genis was always holding back in fear of destroying the universe. The Zemo fight was just a perfect example. Remember that Zemo didn't beat Genis by himself. jockey

Originally posted by Validus
Genis was always holding back in fear of destroying the universe. The Zemo fight was just a perfect example. Remember that Zemo didn't beat Genis by himself. jockey
Bah he still beat him.........jockey
I haven't been reading thunderbolts are the moonstones that powerful?

Nah, i'd think SS blast would go through those shield. Didnt Genis drop Sentry in microverse? But that would'nt work against SS.



I doubt that, SS also controls planet destroying energy and we still dont know the limits of it.

Originally posted by Skeets
Bah he still beat him.........jockey
I haven't been reading thunderbolts are the moonstones that powerful?
Gravity, light, space/time, molecular and energy manipulation. The moonstones are pretty far up there.

Originally posted by Validus
Gravity, light, space/time, molecular and energy manipulation. The moonstones are pretty far up there.
hmm I see so that's all it takes to beat Genis......

Originally posted by Skeets
hmm I see so that's all it takes to beat Genis......
Yeah, that and his teammates betraying him at the last second and access to the Darkforce dimension. jockey

Originally posted by Validus
Yeah, that and his teammates betraying him at the last second and access to the Darkforce dimension. jockey
hmm So far Surfer has all the tools needed to get a win.

Originally posted by Skeets
hmm So far Surfer has all the tools needed to get a win.
Nah. He lacks conviction.

his got it now .

Well if he found out Genis would destroy the universe in the near future that's more then enough.

And wouldn't something like that trigger everyone's Cosmic awareness?
It seemed like only those directly involved with Genis caught wind of it.

Genis is pretty much the only character I've seen whose cosmic awareness has been more than an afterthought.

genisis and spides had a hard time with meastro.

Originally posted by bigbran
genisis and spides had a hard time with meastro.
Hardly. Genis was first holding back because of the innocent people around. After he cut loose he was knocking Hulk around.

meastro wasnt hurt though, and they didnt show the rest of the fight until meastro was about to rip spides in half. and rick jones stabbed rick jones and genisis.

Originally posted by bigbran
meastro wasnt hurt though, and they didnt show the rest of the fight until meastro was about to rip spides in half. and rick jones stabbed rick jones and genisis.
I know. Genis was teleported away in the middle of handing out an ass kicking. Nobody expects Spider-Man 2099 to beat Hulk.

Besides, Genis has a fairly good showing against King Thor.