Here's my version of a....black Justice League!!!

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Frostbite883
Silver Sentry - Leader of this new team
of African American superheroes as well as the inspiration and
conscience of the team.

Nighthawk - He's the team's master strategist and the most superb
fighter of this group of heroes. Although he's pretty much an
unofficial member of the team(much like Batman in the JL cartoon)
he would still be a valued member to the team.

Amazon - The Amalgam Universe version of
both Storm & Wonder Woman would be included in team.
She would be 'glue' that keeps this team together. Although her
weather manipulating powers would be limited she would have
superpowered abilities similar to that of the amazons of Paradise
Island.

Green Lartern(John Stewart) - He would
be the militant, welly organize of the group. My version of John is
based on the cartoon version from Justice League Unlimited.

The Blur - Stanley Stewart is not only
the humorous member of the team but, also the fastest scout they
could ever have. He may not be as fast as Silver Sentry is but,
at least Stan has heart....and a dose of humor on the side.

Icon - He would be the 'odd guy out'
of this team(since he's really an alien in the form of a black man).
He now has the ability to change back and for to his original form
and his other humanoid form.

Freedom Beast - With his mind control,
super strength, healing factor and his ability to fused two animals(or
more) into one chimera-like being, this guy is pretty much another
valued member(besides Nighthawk) for this team of heroes.

Together these African American superheroes will defend the earth
from dangers from land, sea, air and even the very reaches of space
itself....whether the world accept them or not. They would be known
as The United League of America!!!

Well, what do you think? Like my team? If so post me.

By-the-by, what team of a 'Black Justice League' would pick for
your version?

Draco69
The United League of America fights a supervillain in New York City.

The NYPD thinks the ULA are actually a superpowered group of gangbangers and proceed to shoot at them. The supervillain escapes.

Nighthawk gets shot and the ULA retliates.

The US government launches an anti-ULA program to destroy the ULA.

The ULA disbands, learning that in such a racist ass world how could they possibly have thought an all-black superhero team would work....

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Frostbite883
Silver Sentry - Leader of this new team
of African American superheroes as well as the inspiration and
conscience of the team.

Nighthawk - He's the team's master strategist and the most superb
fighter of this group of heroes. Although he's pretty much an
unofficial member of the team(much like Batman in the JL cartoon)
he would still be a valued member to the team.

Amazon - The Amalgam Universe version of
both Storm & Wonder Woman would be included in team.
She would be 'glue' that keeps this team together. Although her
weather manipulating powers would be limited she would have
superpowered abilities similar to that of the amazons of Paradise
Island.

Green Lartern(John Stewart) - He would
be the militant, welly organize of the group. My version of John is
based on the cartoon version from Justice League Unlimited.

The Blur - Stanley Stewart is not only
the humorous member of the team but, also the fastest scout they
could ever have. He may not be as fast as Silver Sentry is but,
at least Stan has heart....and a dose of humor on the side.

Icon - He would be the 'odd guy out'
of this team(since he's really an alien in the form of a black man).
He now has the ability to change back and for to his original form
and his other humanoid form.

Freedom Beast - With his mind control,
super strength, healing factor and his ability to fused two animals(or
more) into one chimera-like being, this guy is pretty much another
valued member(besides Nighthawk) for this team of heroes.

Together these African American superheroes will defend the earth
from dangers from land, sea, air and even the very reaches of space
itself....whether the world accept them or not. They would be known
as The United League of America!!!

Well, what do you think? Like my team? If so post me.

By-the-by, what team of a 'Black Justice League' would pick for
your version?
Heres my Team
Vixen
Black Lightning
Vox
Bumblebee
Dial h for H.E.R.O
Bloodwynd
Green Lantern John Stewart
smile

grey fox
Originally posted by Draco69
The United League of America fights a supervillain in New York City.

The NYPD thinks the ULA are actually a superpowered group of gangbangers and proceed to shoot at them. The supervillain escapes.

Nighthawk gets shot and the ULA retliates.

The US government launches an anti-ULA program to destroy the ULA.

The ULA disbands, learning that in such a racist ass world how could they possibly have thought an all-black superhero team would work....

laughing laughing laughing

HellMaster93
Originally posted by Draco69
The United League of America fights a supervillain in New York City.

The NYPD thinks the ULA are actually a superpowered group of gangbangers and proceed to shoot at them. The supervillain escapes.

Nighthawk gets shot and the ULA retliates.

The US government launches an anti-ULA program to destroy the ULA.

The ULA disbands, learning that in such a racist ass world how could they possibly have thought an all-black superhero team would work.... Sadly, that would probably truly happen... and George Bush would use it as an excuse to nuke the entire African continent... evil face

Grimm22
Originally posted by HellMaster93
Sadly, that would probably truly happen... and George Bush would use it as an excuse to nuke the entire African continent... evil face

Ugh, there are so many ways I could prove you wrong here, but I try to avoid talking politics What the f**k?

inamilist
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh, there are so many ways I could prove you wrong here, but I try to avoid talking politics What the f**k?

sigh

probably good, i think he was trying to make a joke though smile

Frostbite883
Also making an appearing to the ULA team is their new team member
and mascot.........Jim Wilson(nephew of Sam Wilson aka The Falcon)!!!

Only this time it's not the homosexual black man version but, it's
the angry black teen version of the 1970s.

Check it out>>www.incrediblehulk.com/jimwilson.html

So, he's pretty much the 'Scapper Carr' to their 'Justice League' so to speak. Of course Jimmy here would get on Nighthawk's nerves, then
Amazon's nerves, then he wold get on everybody in the ULA's nerves.
Heck, he would even get on Icon's nerves and he has a kid-sidekick
for goodness sake!

Frostbite883
Originally posted by Frostbite883
Also making an appearing to the ULA team is their new team member
and mascot.........Jim Wilson(nephew of Sam Wilson aka The Falcon)!!!

Only this time it's not the homosexual black man version but, it's
the angry black teen version of the 1970s.

I forgot. Technicially, Jim havn't been identified as whether he's
homosexual or not. My bad.

Originally posted by Frostbite883 Check it out>>www.incrediblehulk.com/jimwilson.html

So, he's pretty much the 'Scapper Carr' to their 'Justice League' so to speak. Of course Jimmy here would get on Nighthawk's nerves, then
Amazon's nerves, then he wold get on everybody in the ULA's nerves.
Heck, he would even get on Icon's nerves and he has a kid-sidekick
for goodness sake!

Scarlet315
All im sayin is its about time ya heard

Broly92
Originally posted by HellMaster93
Sadly, that would probably truly happen... and George Bush would use it as an excuse to nuke the entire African continent... evil face
roll eyes (sarcastic)

Scoobless
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh, there are so many ways I could prove you wrong here, but I try to avoid talking politics What the f**k?

Is it because he doesn't know where Africa is?

Broly92
Originally posted by Scoobless
Is it because he doesn't know where Africa is?
Or that he is too busy being picked on by every single person?

roughrider
Black Justice League? Why not a Black Avengers? shifty

And how about adding Mr. Terrific, Steel and the Black Panther?

pr1983
Originally posted by Scoobless
Is it because he doesn't know where Africa is?

He shoots he scores...

Grimm22
God this is like Reggie Hudlin's sick little dream eer

What ever happened to not caring about race?

Why does it matter?

Racism works both ways folks

pr1983
Originally posted by Grimm22
God this is like Reggie Hudlin's sick little dream eer

What ever happened to not caring about race?

Why does it matter?

Racism works both ways folks

confused when did race come into it?

Validus
I prefer the black guys with names starting with J League.

Jake Jordan - The Manhattan Guardian
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/manguard.gif

John Henry Irons - Steel
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/52-Cv14_solicit.jpg

John Stewart - Green Lantern
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/jsgl.gif

Jefferson Pierce - Black Lightning
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/Black_lightning_nowlan.jpg

Jason Rusch - Firestorm
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/200px-Firecstorm_23.jpg

Jakeem Thunder - The Thunderbolt
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/exh-dc-JJthunder.gif

Josiah Power
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/120.jpg

Scripts and Pencils by Jamal Igle
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/pitts_jamal.jpgJ

King_Mungi
Windshear:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Windshear

Pathway:
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Pathway

Grimm22
Originally posted by pr1983
confused when did race come into it?

Um the thread is about a team distinguished by race no expression

If that isnt racist I dont know what is

Scoobless
Originally posted by Validus
I prefer the black guys with names starting with J League.

Jake Jordan - The Manhattan Guardian
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/manguard.gif

John Henry Irons - Steel
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/52-Cv14_solicit.jpg

John Stewart - Green Lantern
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/jsgl.gif

Jefferson Pierce - Black Lightning
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/Black_lightning_nowlan.jpg

Jason Rusch - Firestorm
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/200px-Firecstorm_23.jpg

Jakeem Thunder - The Thunderbolt
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/exh-dc-JJthunder.gif

Josiah Power
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/120.jpg

Scripts and Pencils by Jamal Igle
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/pitts_jamal.jpgJ

The J-Team!.... do they have a large white van?

stick out tongue

Validus
Actually they drive a...

black Jeep Commander!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c18/tgtdiana/XKTH74_S_PX8x.jpg

Dinkus Mayhem
You need to chill a bit IMO, race in this thread isn't being discussed in a negative way at all. Stop being so hypersensitive Grimm.

PS- I think the following team would be sweet. Hell with only Firestorm, GL, Steel, Black Lighting, and Jakeem this would be a bad ass team.

I don't even know who Manhattan Guardian or Josiah Power are. embarrasment

Originally posted by Validus
I prefer the black guys with names starting with J League.

Jake Jordan - The Manhattan Guardian
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/manguard.gif

John Henry Irons - Steel
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/52-Cv14_solicit.jpg

John Stewart - Green Lantern
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/jsgl.gif

Jefferson Pierce - Black Lightning
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d184/tgtshazam/Black_lightning_nowlan.jpg

Jason Rusch - Firestorm
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/200px-Firecstorm_23.jpg

Jakeem Thunder - The Thunderbolt
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/exh-dc-JJthunder.gif

Josiah Power
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/120.jpg

Scripts and Pencils by Jamal Igle
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/tgtsupes/pitts_jamal.jpgJ

roughrider
When did Firestorm become a black guy? huh

Validus
Originally posted by roughrider
When did Firestorm become a black guy? huh
Almost 3 years ago.

And yeah, the J-Team is pretty powerful. laughing out loud

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh, there are so many ways I could prove you wrong here, but I try to avoid talking politics What the f**k? Your right. First gotta find the oil.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Broly92
Or that he is too busy being picked on by every single person? Yeah Iraqs picking on poor President Bush roll eyes (sarcastic)

Scoobless
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Yeah Iraqs picking on poor President Bush roll eyes (sarcastic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt2LoEjAc_Q

AcousticDoc
Originally posted by Grimm22
Um the thread is about a team distinguished by race no expression

If that isnt racist I dont know what is

It's minority empowerment, not racist.

Broly92
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Yeah Iraqs picking on poor President Bush roll eyes (sarcastic)
Sure roll eyes (sarcastic) roll eyes (sarcastic) roll eyes (sarcastic) I know thats what I meant!

Grimm22
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Your right. First gotta find the oil.

Screw you dude, im trying to keep politics out of these forums, because I hate to talk about poliitcs most of the time.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Yeah Iraqs picking on poor President Bush roll eyes (sarcastic)

Because Iraq was so much better off with an opressive dictator right roll eyes (sarcastic)

Oh and if we leave now then Terorists are going to take over and turn it into the next Iran.

There, thats the only thing im going to say political.

Insult me all you want, but im a moderate and I believe in freedom of choice so I wont argue back.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Grimm22
Because Iraq was so much better off with an opressive dictator right roll eyes (sarcastic)

There are far worse off countries in the world than Iraq

Grimm22
Originally posted by AcousticDoc
It's minority empowerment, not racist.

Racism works both ways dude no expression

So if I said lets have an all White JLA, then everyone flips out.

But when an all Black JLA is introduced then its fine and dandy What the f**k?

Its wrong either way.

You should NEVER judge someone by the color of their skin, because you know what? It dosent matter. Being Black, White, Yellow , Orange, or whatever makes you no better than anyone else.

And anyone who thinks otherwise needs an ass whooping

Broly92
Originally posted by Scoobless
There are far worse off countries in the world than Iraq
And there are FAR worse people than Bush

Scoobless
Originally posted by Broly92
And there are FAR worse people than Bush

No one ever said otherwise

Broly92
Originally posted by Scoobless
No one ever said otherwise
Your remark works both ways where is the UN judging them but this is politics and spam so never mind.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Broly92
Your remark works both ways where is the UN judging them but this is politics and spam so never mind.

My "remark" only works one way:

Originally posted by Scoobless
There are far worse off countries in the world than Iraq

I find it hard to take that any other way than it being a statement of fact

Broly92
Originally posted by Scoobless
My "remark" was only works one way:



I find it hard to take that any other way than it being a stsatement of fact
Never mind this is a pointless fight sorry coke

Scoobless
Originally posted by Broly92
Never mind this is a pointless fight sorry coke

Damn my spelling/grammar errors when I type fast and don't check it before posting ... sad

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Broly92
And there are FAR worse people than Bush Theres hitler and ummmm
confused








Seriously Manifest Destiny aside, we really should have minded our own business. And to scoobles note, there are worse countries but some of them have nuclear arms. Don't wanna mess with that

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Grimm22
Because Iraq was so much better off with an opressive dictator right roll eyes (sarcastic)

Oh and if we leave now then Terorists are going to take over and turn it into the next Iran.

There, thats the only thing im going to say political.

Insult me all you want, but im a moderate and I believe in freedom of choice so I wont argue back. They hate us for our freedom roll eyes (sarcastic)

manorastroman
What the f**k? i'm extremely anti-politic as well, but you think hitler is the only person worse than bush?

jesus, that's both ignorant and plain stupid.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by manorastroman
What the f**k? i'm extremely anti-politic as well, but you think hitler is the only person worse than bush?

jesus, that's both ignorant and plain stupid. Hence the word seriously in my post which kinda lets you know its a joke wink


Please re-read

manorastroman
ah. the triple caps confused me.

inamilist
Originally posted by Big Sexy
They hate us for our freedom roll eyes (sarcastic)

i know you are trying to be funny but, if you look at the writings by those who have motivated and inspired the militant islamic movement (see: Sayd Kutb) or the main intellectual leaders of it now (Zawahiri is the most promenent of them), its REALLY obvious that they DO hate our freedoms (see Jahiliyya)

for instance, why are the Taliban burning down schools in afghanistan? simple, we are letting them teach women there, and it is against the qu'ran (let me specify, against what a minority of muslums feel the qu'ran is about.... same as the KKK is all biblical)

sorry, i did have to weigh in. However, im totally NOT anti-political, so big sexy, if you REALLY want to talk politics, please send me a PM, this is obviously not the place to get really in depth....

i might recommend a more thorough understanding of the philosophies incolved though....

long pig
I'm all for an all black team, just as long as they don't get crunk or say shizzle my nizzle....or act like complete idiots i.e Luke Cage. God almighty that comic set us back like 20 years.

On a weirder note:
Half the murders committed in Scotland are carried out with swords.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/4788881.stm

Scoob? WTF man?

long pig
Originally posted by inamilist
i know you are trying to be funny but, if you look at the writings by those who have motivated and inspired the militant islamic movement (see: Sayd Kutb) or the main intellectual leaders of it now (Zawahiri is the most promenent of them), its REALLY obvious that they DO hate our freedoms (see Jahiliyya)

for instance, why are the Taliban burning down schools in afghanistan? simple, we are letting them teach women there, and it is against the qu'ran (let me specify, against what a minority of muslums feel the qu'ran is about.... same as the KKK is all biblical)

sorry, i did have to weigh in. However, im totally NOT anti-political, so big sexy, if you REALLY want to talk politics, please send me a PM, this is obviously not the place to get really in depth....

i might recommend a more thorough understanding of the philosophies incolved though....
ISLAMO FASCIST HATE PUNY AMERICAN FREEDOM!!!

ARGGHHH!!! ISLAMO FASCIST SMASH YOU AND YOUR WEAK FREE PRESS AND HOITY CHECKS AND BALANCES!!! ARRGGHHH!!!

Big Sexy
Originally posted by long pig
I'm all for an all black team, just as long as they don't get crunk or say shizzle my nizzle....or act like complete idiots i.e Luke Cage. God almighty that comic set us back like 20 years.

On a weirder note:
Half the murders committed in Scotland are carried out with swords.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/4788881.stm

Scoob? WTF man? Thats not as bad as soul plane that sent us back after we came back from Luke Cage.

inamilist
Originally posted by long pig
ISLAMO FASCIST HATE PUNY AMERICAN FREEDOM!!!

ARGGHHH!!! ISLAMO FASCIST SMASH YOU AND YOUR WEAK FREE PRESS AND HOITY CHECKS AND BALANCES!!! ARRGGHHH!!!

big grin laughing

long pig
Soul Plane...my god. I ....I blocked that out I think.

But, shit.

Nobody's fault but our own, we buy into that crap for some reason.

YEAAAAHH!!! WHAATTT??? no

An all black team would sale if it was done correctly. No stereotypes and an intelligent read. Of course, we'd have to have a token white guy....like Jarvis or something....to do the team's taxes.

long pig
Possibly a Jew. We need a Jew.

All in favor?

Big Sexy
Originally posted by long pig
Possibly a Jew. We need a Jew.

All in favor? I

Big Sexy
Here are a few setbacks

Snoop Dogg
basketball in general
BET

UniOmni
Originally posted by Scoobless
Is it because he doesn't know where Africa is?

Funniest thing i heard all week laughing


































sick At the idiot in the White House.

UniOmni
Fukk avoiding stereotypes!!!

Like Chapstick said, if you don't like chicken and watermelon, then there's something wrong with you!!

Not me.

And even if my penis isn't the biggest in the room, i carry myself like it is, and your girl buys into what i'm selling.

She's a peckerchecker now!!

And the most popular koolaid IS the strawberry flavor, also known simply as " Red koolaid".

You know what i'm offering if i say, want some juice!

Big Sexy
The david Chappelle skit made me laugh when he said he ordered Fish in water because he was offered chicken and Kool Aid

Alfheim
Originally posted by Grimm22
Racism works both ways dude no expression

So if I said lets have an all White JLA, then everyone flips out.

But when an all Black JLA is introduced then its fine and dandy What the f**k?

Its wrong either way.

You should NEVER judge someone by the color of their skin, because you know what? It dosent matter. Being Black, White, Yellow , Orange, or whatever makes you no better than anyone else.

And anyone who thinks otherwise needs an ass whooping

I dunno man up into recently I think alot of Marvel black characeters kinda sucked.

Like I was saying earlier on if you are into comics liike Silver Surfer you kinda feel left out by the lack of black cosmic characters.

DarkCrawler
My favorite black characters used to be Black Panther and Storm, now, on the other hand...

Nowadays, my favorite black character is...ehm...Goliath...ah shit...

I'm black myself, but it is hard to find a black character who I could really like. Maybe Steel.

Alfheim
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
My favorite black characters used to be Black Panther and Storm, now, on the other hand...

Nowadays, my favorite black character is...ehm...Goliath...ah shit...

I'm black myself, but it is hard to find a black character who I could really like. Maybe Steel.

True. To be quite honest when Night Thrasher came out I really liked his character. I felt at the time with characters like Luke Cage they were trying to make some characters act "black", but with Night Thrasher it wasn't an issue.

I dunno maybe I was overeacting, it was a long time ago. Oh yeah I have always liked Cloak.

P.S. I have always felt black female characters in Marvel have been cool

P.P.S. What happened to Milestone comics?

Accel
I'd say my favorite black heroes are Blade, Spawn, and Jakeem Thunder.

Lamest of all has to be Triathalon though.

Accel
Originally posted by UniOmni
And the most popular koolaid IS the strawberry flavor, also known simply as " Red koolaid".

You know what i'm offering if i say, want some juice!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEn0wvu4b8M

roughrider
Originally posted by long pig
I'm all for an all black team, just as long as they don't get crunk or say shizzle my nizzle....or act like complete idiots i.e Luke Cage. God almighty that comic set us back like 20 years.

On a weirder note:
Half the murders committed in Scotland are carried out with swords.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/4788881.stm

Scoob? WTF man?

C'mon - Luke Cage and Black Panther were groundbreakers in the comics world. Nicolas Cage took his stage name from Luke. Black Panther is cool enough to get positive mention in Do The Right Thing.

Still killing with swords in Scotland? What else?
I wonder if in Ireland it's common to assault someone with a pint/beer bottle. stick out tongue

Scoobless
Originally posted by long pig
I'm all for an all black team, just as long as they don't get crunk or say shizzle my nizzle....or act like complete idiots i.e Luke Cage. God almighty that comic set us back like 20 years.

On a weirder note:
Half the murders committed in Scotland are carried out with swords.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/4788881.stm

Scoob? WTF man?

embarrasment ....... I bought a sword myself ......... no expression

Grimm22
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno man up into recently I think alot of Marvel black characeters kinda sucked.

Like I was saying earlier on if you are into comics liike Silver Surfer you kinda feel left out by the lack of black cosmic characters.

Well yeah when Jack Kirby left Marvel yeah erm

Black Panther was a great character because he was a great character, not because he was black.

Of course Marvel then made characters like Falcon who was advertised as a Tolken and the extremely streotypical Luke Cage

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by pr1983
He shoots he scores... laughing

Dynamic One
Originally posted by Grimm22
Racism works both ways dude no expression

So if I said lets have an all White JLA, then everyone flips out.

But when an all Black JLA is introduced then its fine and dandy What the f**k?

Its wrong either way.

You should NEVER judge someone by the color of their skin, because you know what? It dosent matter. Being Black, White, Yellow , Orange, or whatever makes you no better than anyone else.

And anyone who thinks otherwise needs an ass whooping

Its all about context. An all white superhero team is pretty much your averaqe default team in any industry and they may have your (insert race here) quy/qirl to add the all inclusory feel. When it said all black or african american talk about more than just color it is also about culture for example an all latino squad. You are the same type of cats that qot riled up about the boondocks and miss the whole picture because you are busy tryinq to proclaim reverse racism when in fact its just us tryinq to hiqhliqht a squad we would like to see because black heroes are often marqinalized and stereotyped in comics so in other words, chill the **** out. But just for you we'll round out the team with some white dude just so we can meet the quota.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Dynamic One
Its all about context. An all white superhero team is pretty much your averaqe default team in any industry and they may have your (insert race here) quy/qirl to add the all inclusory feel. When it said all black or african american talk about more than just color it is also about culture for example an all latino squad. You are the same type of cats that qot riled up about the boondocks and miss the whole picture because you are busy tryinq to proclaim reverse racism when in fact its just us tryinq to hiqhliqht a squad we would like to see because black heroes are often marqinalized and stereotyped in comics so in other words, chill the **** out. But just for you we'll round out the team with some white dude just so we can meet the quota. laughing gotta have the token

long pig
Originally posted by Scoobless
embarrasment ....... I bought a sword myself ......... no expression
Why?

I don't think there will be any braveheart fighting going on soon.

long pig
Although, this thread isn't racist, it is slightly insensitive and exclusionary and separative.

Wait, that IS racism.

Black History month is as well, I mean, how many times do I need to hear about the guy who invented peanut butter?!!

DarkCrawler
Oh yeah, Supreme Power Nighthawk and Blur are good characters too...Nighthawk is racist, yeah, but he's still a good character characterwise. And Night Thrasher was good too, but now he is dead too. sad

Alfheim
Originally posted by Big Sexy
laughing gotta have the token

I tried to make this point in the versus forum and nobody said ****, maybe its the way I said it.

Scoobless
Originally posted by long pig
Why?

I don't think there will be any braveheart fighting going on soon.

I got it as a present for my brother's birthday

Dynamic One
Originally posted by long pig
Although, this thread isn't racist, it is slightly insensitive and exclusionary and separative.

Wait, that IS racism.

Black History month is as well, I mean, how many times do I need to hear about the guy who invented peanut butter?!!

We have one month that we qet to celebrate our culture and remind ourselves as well as other people where we come from extends from more than Lil Jon snoop d-o- double qa-zee and whatever random ass athlete put in our faces. white people have a whole year where we have to listen to and tolerate their bullshit about who is boninq who on capitol hill, who is the enemy, who is smokin/sniffinq/****inq who in hollywood on a tape. We're takinq the month and nobody qonna have anythinq credible to say about it. and we qonna take a couple more.

Scoobless
What are you talking about?

Juntai
Uhh....

Scoobless
I mean this whole "1 month" thing

Grimm22
Originally posted by Dynamic One
Its all about context. An all white superhero team is pretty much your averaqe default team in any industry and they may have your (insert race here) quy/qirl to add the all inclusory feel. When it said all black or african american talk about more than just color it is also about culture for example an all latino squad. You are the same type of cats that qot riled up about the boondocks and miss the whole picture because you are busy tryinq to proclaim reverse racism when in fact its just us tryinq to hiqhliqht a squad we would like to see because black heroes are often marqinalized and stereotyped in comics so in other words, chill the **** out. But just for you we'll round out the team with some white dude just so we can meet the quota.

Well you shouldnt make a team just because of someone's race no expression

If a character fits on the team then they join the team, and maybe they just happen to be black erm

Maybe if the team was stationed in Africa this would make more sense erm

I mean guys like Black Panther have to travel a LONG way from home to get the Avengers mansion, so I guess it would make sense.

However making a team composed of heroes because of the color of their skin is wrong

Alfheim
Originally posted by Grimm22
Well you shouldnt make a team just because of someone's race no expression

If a character fits on the team then they join the team, and maybe they just happen to be black erm

Maybe if the team was stationed in Africa this would make more sense erm

I mean guys like Black Panther have to travel a LONG way from home to get the Avengers mansion, so I guess it would make sense.

However making a team composed of heroes because of the color of their skin is wrong

Look the fact of the matter is if the MU was like the real world there would be more black characters and better ones to.

Im not sure if you remember Milestone comics. This was a comic company that wanted to represent the minorities more. It was great they had black characters, puerto rican characters, asian, dominican, lesbian, homosexual, bi-sexual characters and yes they had white superheroes and villains too....and there was no stereotypical crap.

Milestone comics was a head of its time and Marvel and DC (I think) to this day havent done anything close. That why we are doing this thread!

inamilist
Originally posted by Dynamic One
We have one month that we qet to celebrate our culture and remind ourselves as well as other people where we come from extends from more than Lil Jon snoop d-o- double qa-zee and whatever random ass athlete put in our faces. white people have a whole year where we have to listen to and tolerate their bullshit about who is boninq who on capitol hill, who is the enemy, who is smokin/sniffinq/****inq who in hollywood on a tape. We're takinq the month and nobody qonna have anythinq credible to say about it. and we qonna take a couple more.

ummmm

the only time you feel you can celebrate "black" culture is during february?

black history month, along with things like affirmative action or any "pride" movements (women, gays, ect) are prejudicial/segregationist/racist/sexist for one simple reason. It signifies the importance of race/gender/identity over and above the accomplishment of the individual. Basically, it says the most important thing about a black man is that he is black. If you see a black man, recognize he is black before you recognize any accomplishments or positive attributres of his character.

Another point. Albert Einstein is not recognized as a prominant JEWISH or WHITE scientist, he is recognized as a scientist who contributed to the human understanding of science. Likewise with stephen hawking, or johannes sebastian bach or any other "white" historic figure. They contributed something that made them recognizable and that is why we pay attention to them, not because they are white.

This isnt to say that there aren't any signifigant and also overlooked contributions from black people, this isnt to say that an intollorant society didn't make it easier for Einstein to publish his theory of reletivity before say, a black theoretical physicist. Its that, the fact that many minority groups feel a need to associate certain characteristics or importances to their race/culture that in the end, only serve to continue to segregate themselves from the mainstream society. Look at Gay Pride week.

It has to be irrelevant weather a person is black or white. Slavery must be bad because it was people harming people, not a racial issue. Its not reverse or whatever kind of racism, its just racism. Colour, culture, history, anscestory, all of that is irrelevant.

BTW, boondocks is one of the best shows on TV right now

RSSR
Originally posted by Grimm22
Um the thread is about a team distinguished by race no expression

If that isnt racist I dont know what is

You have the gall to make the above comment yet turn around and say something like this in the Native American Justice League thread? whistle

Bah, they go on one mission and decide starting a chain of casinos is easier

Okkaayy.

roughrider
Originally posted by Alfheim
Look the fact of the matter is if the MU was like the real world there would be more black characters and better ones to.

Im not sure if you remember Milestone comics. This was a comic company that wanted to represent the minorities more. It was great they had black characters, puerto rican characters, asian, dominican, lesbian, homosexual, bi-sexual characters and yes they had white superheroes and villains too....and there was no stereotypical crap.

Milestone comics was a head of its time and Marvel and DC (I think) to this day havent done anything close. That why we are doing this thread!

So how come Dwayne McDuffie and all his African-American friends start the Milestone line for DC, making a virtually complete universe of black characters, and they don't get charged with reverse-racism like the person who started this thread?

(I worked with a black guy when BET was starting up - he considered the channel offensive for existing at all.)

Alfheim
Originally posted by roughrider
So how come Dwayne McDuffie and all his African-American friends start the Milestone line for DC, making a virtually complete universe of black characters, and they don't get charged with reverse-racism like the person who started this thread?

(I worked with a black guy when BET was starting up - he considered the channel offensive for existing at all.)

They did not make a virtual complete universe of black characters. The Milestone universe was moe complete:


Originally posted by Alfheim
It was great they had black characters, puerto rican characters, asian, dominican, lesbian, homosexual, bi-sexual characters and yes they had white superheroes and villains too....and there was no stereotypical crap.


I mean ok lets take a look at blood syndicate

Puerto rican
African American
Dominican
Asian
European
Korean

and other minorities ive never even heard of. The whole point of milestone was to even things out.

Grimm22
Originally posted by RSSR
You have the gall to make the above comment yet turn around and say something like this in the Native American Justice League thread? whistle

Bah, they go on one mission and decide starting a chain of casinos is easier

Okkaayy.

Native Americans are really a race no expression

More of a culture

Grimm22
Originally posted by roughrider
So how come Dwayne McDuffie and all his African-American friends start the Milestone line for DC, making a virtually complete universe of black characters, and they don't get charged with reverse-racism like the person who started this thread?

(I worked with a black guy when BET was starting up - he considered the channel offensive for existing at all.)

First i've heard about all this confused

Dwane McDuffie is a good writer, I would take him over Reggie Hudlin ANY day of the week.

Plus, if you ask me, the entire thought of a tv channel for a certain race is racist.

kenobi
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh, there are so many ways I could prove you wrong here, but I try to avoid talking politics What the f**k? I agree. THe liberals are infiltrating the KMC forum.

Juntai
Originally posted by Grimm22

Plus, if you ask me, the entire thought of a tv channel for a certain race is racist. I agree wholeheartedly.

But on a side-note, Eminem's won more BET awards than pretty much anyone.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Grimm22
First i've heard about all this confused

Dwane McDuffie is a good writer, I would take him over Reggie Hudlin ANY day of the week.

Plus, if you ask me, the entire thought of a tv channel for a certain race is racist.

Im not sure really. The thing is I dont think you really understand what it feels like to be persecuted because of your race. Dont get me wrong I understand that you're not racist and things have improved but I have been subjected to alot of racist abuse on a daily basis for years, plus the history of what black people have been through as a whole doesnt help either.

I think that when a race has been subjected to alot of abuse that its not wrong for them to exclude themselves but with the intention of reintegration.

I dont think this implies to black people now, but lets put it this way if American Inidans decided to get together and exclude themselves I would not blame them. Eventhough im not an American Inidan I can undertsand how some of them could feel quite bitter and may want to work more within themselves to create a sense of pride.

I understand why you would consider it to be racist but sometimes even if you do not agree with something try to understand why people behave in a certain way. Try to imagine how it feels like to be somebody else.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not sure really. The thing is I dont think you really understand what it feels like to be persecuted because of your race. Dont get me wrong I understand that you're not racist and things have improved but I have been subjected to alot of racist abuse on a daily basis for years, plus the history of what black people have been through as a whole doesnt help either.

I think that when a race has been subjected to alot of abuse that its not wrong for them to exclude themselves but with the intention of reintegration.

I dont think this implies to black people now, but lets put it this way if American Inidans decided to get together and exclude themselves I would not blame them. Eventhough im not an American Inidan I can undertsand how some of them could feel quite bitter and may want to work more within themselves to create a sense of pride.

I understand why you would consider it to be racist but sometimes even if you do not agree with something try to understand why people behave in a certain way. Try to imagine how it feels like to be somebody else.

What ever happened to the melting pot? confused1

Rather than just trying to seperate cultures we need to bring them together to get a better understanding of each other, thats the only way to end racism and prejudice.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Juntai
I agree wholeheartedly.

But on a side-note, Eminem's won more BET awards than pretty much anyone.

Rap isnt music stick out tongue

Woopdie do I can speak a bunch of words in a rhyme.

Play a guitar or the drums and I will be impressed, not by making rhymes big grin

Grimm22
Originally posted by kenobi
I agree. THe liberals are infiltrating the KMC forum.

Im a moderate, I respect other people's opinions.

As long as they dont try to infringe on mine or those of others, its not a big deal to me

Alfheim
Originally posted by Grimm22
What ever happened to the melting pot? confused1

Rather than just trying to seperate cultures we need to bring them together to get a better understanding of each other, thats the only way to end racism and prejudice.

I dont disagree with what you're are saying. All im saying is try to imagine how it feels to be another person. You dont know what it feels like so you cant understand why they do it. Its the same way when a person has had to deal with alot of abuse, sure he cannot hide from society all togther but that person may need some time to be on his own.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Grimm22
Native Americans are really a race no expression

More of a culture No its also a race.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Grimm22
Rap isnt music stick out tongue

Woopdie do I can speak a bunch of words in a rhyme.

Play a guitar or the drums and I will be impressed, not by making rhymes big grin Like heavy metal, that sh%t makes me cringe stick out tongue

Alfheim
Originally posted by Big Sexy
Like heavy metal, that sh%t makes me cringe stick out tongue

I love heavy metal, especially doom metal and goth is my favourite genre.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by Alfheim
I love heavy metal, especially doom metal and goth is my favourite genre. I like more Rock, Rap, some Pop, Reggae, Dance, Freestyle, and some Metal but I never could get into it.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Big Sexy
I like more Rock, Rap, some Pop, Reggae, Dance, Freestyle, and some Metal but I never could get into it.

Well I LOVE metal.

Validus
Originally posted by RSSR
You have the gall to make the above comment yet turn around and say something like this in the Native American Justice League thread? whistle

Bah, they go on one mission and decide starting a chain of casinos is easier

Okkaayy.
laughing out loud

Superherovandal
seriously America isn't a melting pot. its a tossed salad. they all may be different looking but each of us that is american or even in america adds to its flavor.

roughrider
Originally posted by Grimm22
Native Americans are really a race no expression

More of a culture

Natives of North America are a race.

Being more of a culture is being Jewish.

Grimm22
Originally posted by roughrider
Natives of North America are a race.

Being more of a culture is being Jewish.

True, its a race but, its more of a culture if you ask me

Dynamic One
Originally posted by Grimm22
What ever happened to the melting pot? confused1

Rather than just trying to seperate cultures we need to bring them together to get a better understanding of each other, thats the only way to end racism and prejudice.

Meltinq pot is a bullshit philosophy. what it really means is assimilation, and that is just tellinq people to be more "american" which really means that we should all be as your averaqe joe blow white quy, just so the rest of america (white america) can feel comfortable. Meltinq pot does not work because of the natural human aversion to thinqs that are too different from their normative. American has never been a meltinq pot or ever will be. America is a bunch of races that live toqether but live separately. You wanna see an example of this, take a look at your averaqe american city, look at the racial make up, then look at where most reside. you can even make this observation in a colleqe town. there are many reasons why i believe your opinion on this matter is flawed. I'm not qoinq to qet indepth about it because it would take too much time to take a historical look at this country and draw the parallelisms, and its not just you im pointinq out; your viewpoint actually is similiar to the viewpoints of people who qrow up a certain way. what im tryinq to say nicely is that because of who you are, you just cant understand.l

The Prophecy
I think he's right we do need to bring all the races together instead of having them separate it's what makes us stronger as a nation and even as a planet. In most cases we are separated because of stereotypes or because of your fears or dislikes of another race,just imagine if everyone actually liked each other,then we would not have the problem of racism and prejudice. In most cases people learn to hate other people because of how they were raised or that they just had an experience.BUT JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON OF ANOTHER RACE IS BAD DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS.What you alllllllllllllllllll must know is that we live in a country that stands for we equality,diversity......etc.However we still don't understand the true meaning of life,love,and who WE are as humans. I would just hate to see what will happen maybe in the future when aliens come to befriend
us

Thank You

Dynamic One
Originally posted by The Prophecy
I think he's right we do need to bring all the races together instead of having them separate it's what makes us stronger as a nation and even as a planet. In most cases we are separated because of stereotypes or because of your fears or dislikes of another race,just imagine if everyone actually liked each other,then we would not have the problem of racism and prejudice. In most cases people learn to hate other people because of how they were raised or that they just had an experience.BUT JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON OF ANOTHER RACE IS BAD DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS.What you alllllllllllllllllll must know is that we live in a country that stands for we equality,diversity......etc.However we still don't understand the true meaning of life,love,and who WE are as humans. I would just hate to see what will happen maybe in the future when aliens come to befriend
us

Thank You

Its nice to dream. However my problem with some of the responses on this thread is due to the sheer blindness of people. If a random member were to make a thread listinq their team based on whatever qualifications, 3/4 of the teams would be all white. Im not qonna say that those people are racists, but they are unaware/naive/unconscious or whatever to the fact that in the biq two companies minorities play a boqus role; enouqh to fill the quotas but not enouqh to be an uncomfortable presence. I defy you to list 30 minority characters that not you, but the casual comic book fan would know about. The reason you dont notice is because in that in a comic book world and in the real world, white is the normative, the status quo, and the only time you will notice race is when the characters are not white. just observations. mi opinion.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Dynamic One
Meltinq pot is a bullshit philosophy. what it really means is assimilation, and that is just tellinq people to be more "american" which really means that we should all be as your averaqe joe blow white quy, just so the rest of america (white america) can feel comfortable. Meltinq pot does not work because of the natural human aversion to thinqs that are too different from their normative. American has never been a meltinq pot or ever will be. America is a bunch of races that live toqether but live separately. You wanna see an example of this, take a look at your averaqe american city, look at the racial make up, then look at where most reside. you can even make this observation in a colleqe town. there are many reasons why i believe your opinion on this matter is flawed. I'm not qoinq to qet indepth about it because it would take too much time to take a historical look at this country and draw the parallelisms, and its not just you im pointinq out; your viewpoint actually is similiar to the viewpoints of people who qrow up a certain way. what im tryinq to say nicely is that because of who you are, you just cant understand.l

Wtf is that supposed to mean?!? What the f**k?

So your saying that I can't understand and blah blah blah, because I don't live "your" life?!?

Bullcrap, equality and the mashup of cultures is what makes America great.

Rather than being formed from one culture we are made from tons or maybe even thousands.

Nearly every culture has contributed to the make up of our society.

For example, without African Culture there would be no Jazz, without Jazz there would be no Rock, with Rock there would be no Rap or whatnot.

You cannot say that cultures are better off without combining with others.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Dynamic One
Its nice to dream. However my problem with some of the responses on this thread is due to the sheer blindness of people. If a random member were to make a thread listinq their team based on whatever qualifications, 3/4 of the teams would be all white. Im not qonna say that those people are racists, but they are unaware/naive/unconscious or whatever to the fact that in the biq two companies minorities play a boqus role; enouqh to fill the quotas but not enouqh to be an uncomfortable presence. I defy you to list 30 minority characters that not you, but the casual comic book fan would know about. The reason you dont notice is because in that in a comic book world and in the real world, white is the normative, the status quo, and the only time you will notice race is when the characters are not white. just observations. mi opinion.

Why the f*** does it matter if they are white, or black or asian or whatever What the f**k?

To think that is just as racist as being a member of the KKK or somthing like that

inamilist
Originally posted by Dynamic One
I defy you to list 30 minority characters that not you, but the casual comic book fan would know about. The reason you dont notice is because in that in a comic book world and in the real world, white is the normative, the status quo, and the only time you will notice race is when the characters are not white.

1) that argument is BS, name 30 characters without a solo title that all comic fans will be familiar with. Or instead, name 30 characters created in the past 10 years that all old time comic readers would know. Or name 30 DC characters that only marvel readers would know.

This isnt a racial claim, its a claim of exposure. Who doesnt know spawn, or blade? WHY? because they have movies and TV shows. Their being black certainly didnt hinder them, in fact, they had movies long before all these "white" characters did

2) i am achually quite offended by the idea that "white" is the status quo. For instance, white people are not all alike. In fact, mainstream western culture (what you would call white) holds little for me, even as a white person. For you to lump all white people into this catagory is a form of racism that i am not privy to, ie, i cant say that, for instance, all black people do X, or all asians smell like Y.

3) A second extention of this is in regards to black culture. What you call the white status quo are achually things like:

-starting a family in the suburbs
-getting higher education
-political aspirations
-the desire to raise a family with stable parents and income

obviously this is a biased list, but why are these things to be avoided by blacks and other minorities. Wouldnt they be better served by working through the mainstream system to build power rather than just complaining about how they percieve the world as unfair and how people hundreds of years ago did something wrong to those who might have been their anscestors?

4) achually, i rarely have interest in the race of a character, black white or whatever. When I found out Jubilee was asian it was a suprise to me. Luke Cage (especially in his civil war appreances) is almost identical to me in philosophy, but im not of his race......

What it seems like to me is this: BLACKS and other minorities are the ones who primarily notice the race of characters, because, to them, race is of signifigant importance.

RACE AND CULTURE ARE IRRELEVANT AND DO NOT MATTER

5) sorta an observation about this thread. On one hand, people seem to go on and on about how there needs to be more characters that represent the minority groups.

However, whenever those characters come along, they are either critiscized as being to steryotypical if they try to incorporate black culture into the character's story, or as being too token of a character if they dont.

Its sorta the damned if you do and damned if you dont, and to be honest, it is probably counter productive to the incorporation of more minority characters. Lots of times people of my race are depicted as steryotypes, think about how i could go on about Tony Stark or Captain America as "racist" and steryotypical icons, but they arent. They are characters. Any lack of depth IS NOT RACISM, just bad writing.

Grimm22
Originally posted by inamilist
1) that argument is BS, name 30 characters without a solo title that all comic fans will be familiar with. Or instead, name 30 characters created in the past 10 years that all old time comic readers would know. Or name 30 DC characters that only marvel readers would know.

This isnt a racial claim, its a claim of exposure. Who doesnt know spawn, or blade? WHY? because they have movies and TV shows. Their being black certainly didnt hinder them, in fact, they had movies long before all these "white" characters did

2) i am achually quite offended by the idea that "white" is the status quo. For instance, white people are not all alike. In fact, mainstream western culture (what you would call white) holds little for me, even as a white person. For you to lump all white people into this catagory is a form of racism that i am not privy to, ie, i cant say that, for instance, all black people do X, or all asians smell like Y.

3) A second extention of this is in regards to black culture. What you call the white status quo are achually things like:

-starting a family in the suburbs
-getting higher education
-political aspirations
-the desire to raise a family with stable parents and income

obviously this is a biased list, but why are these things to be avoided by blacks and other minorities. Wouldnt they be better served by working through the mainstream system to build power rather than just complaining about how they percieve the world as unfair and how people hundreds of years ago did something wrong to those who might have been their anscestors?

4) achually, i rarely have interest in the race of a character, black white or whatever. When I found out Jubilee was asian it was a suprise to me. Luke Cage (especially in his civil war appreances) is almost identical to me in philosophy, but im not of his race......

What it seems like to me is this: BLACKS and other minorities are the ones who primarily notice the race of characters, because, to them, race is of signifigant importance.

RACE AND CULTURE ARE IRRELEVANT AND DO NOT MATTER

5) sorta an observation about this thread. On one hand, people seem to go on and on about how there needs to be more characters that represent the minority groups.

However, whenever those characters come along, they are either critiscized as being to steryotypical if they try to incorporate black culture into the character's story, or as being too token of a character if they dont.

Its sorta the damned if you do and damned if you dont, and to be honest, it is probably counter productive to the incorporation of more minority characters. Lots of times people of my race are depicted as steryotypes, think about how i could go on about Tony Stark or Captain America as "racist" and steryotypical icons, but they arent. They are characters. Any lack of depth IS NOT RACISM, just bad writing.

Indeed yes

But try telling that to Reggie Hudlin laughing

long pig
Originally posted by Grimm22
Indeed yes

But try telling that to Reggie Hudlin laughing
You straight trippin' boo.

He sucks.

Kinneary
I don't give a damn about 'being black is a culture' or whatever other excuses are made for this thread.

When you start to list all the super heroes you want in the Justice League, and exclude those who are white, asian, or latin, you're just being racist. It's the same as if I decided I didn't want John Stewart on the JLA because he was black.

Let's be honest. If I came out and said in a thread "I don't think John Stewart should be in the JLA because he's black," I'd be screamed at left and right. Racism is a two way street, people.

Dynamic One
no its not. im not qonna say because im not. white people in america, and western europe, have no viable claim to racism. the rulinq class cannot make an arqument aqainst the minority class for usinq exclusionary tactics. im not claiminq im always for separation based on race cominq from within a culture because i do believe that if you cut yourself off for too lonq from other cultures it can be detrimental. however unlike you i can understand why minorities whether black, latino, native american or asian would do it. for those claiminq to have no lack of interest in race....whatever, you are either an exception, bullshittinq, or blind. the racial claims and exposure claims have a common link. however once aqan i just want to point out that i, and probably a lot of other people would not have a problem with an all latino/asian/native american/icelandic/black/antarctic or whatever team. at this point thouqh im done tryinq to qet my point across on an internet forum where a majority (white) of the people will not and very possibly comprehend. you have to be one of us to understand and you are not and i qet that and i understand so im done. at this point the whole thinq is futile because at the end of the day you can run back, cut yourself off in whatever wood/brook/park/ridqe you came from and feel qood about yourself because your white and im wronq. peace, holla

inamilist
Originally posted by Dynamic One
no its not. im not qonna say because im not. white people in america, and western europe, have no viable claim to racism. the rulinq class cannot make an arqument aqainst the minority class for usinq exclusionary tactics. im not claiminq im always for separation based on race cominq from within a culture because i do believe that if you cut yourself off for too lonq from other cultures it can be detrimental. however unlike you i can understand why minorities whether black, latino, native american or asian would do it. for those claiminq to have no lack of interest in race....whatever, you are either an exception, bullshittinq, or blind. the racial claims and exposure claims have a common link. however once aqan i just want to point out that i, and probably a lot of other people would not have a problem with an all latino/asian/native american/icelandic/black/antarctic or whatever team. at this point thouqh im done tryinq to qet my point across on an internet forum where a majority (white) of the people will not and very possibly comprehend. you have to be one of us to understand and you are not and i qet that and i understand so im done. at this point the whole thinq is futile because at the end of the day you can run back, cut yourself off in whatever wood/brook/park/ridqe you came from and feel qood about yourself because your white and im wronq. peace, holla


this is racism and very offensive

White people can't understand? Thats right, because we don't think of ourselves as whites anymore

you should try it some time

If you are going to segregate yourself you cant be upset when others do it to you aswell

Dynamic One
funny how the truth always offends people. and you know what im not just some black dude playinq the "blame whitey" qame. i point the finqer at my own people, and im harder too. however white people (reqular un-hyphened americans) will never be off the hook, ever. some of you dont qet the revelance of race issues when it comes to comics or a comic forum, but in this era of literature that reflects post-post modernism, verqinq on realism, race issues is a biq uqly three headed doq that we dont want to deal with, and pretend that if we dont talk about it everythinq will be cool. and the fact that comics dont reflect the real world is just insultinq and a perfect example of what i mean when i say white people just dont qet it. i said im done arquinq, debatinq and i am, now im reflectinq.

inamilist
please define post-post modernism

I am both a post modernist artist and philosopher, so I know what it means, however i dont see its relevance to what you are saying....

BTW, im fine with discussing real racial issues, but not if you are going to continue to insinuate that there are quantifiable differances between people just because of their race.

Me and you are differant for so many complex reasons. Skin colour is not one of them

Alfheim
Originally posted by Dynamic One
pretend that if we dont talk about it everythinq will be cool. and the fact that comics dont reflect the real world is just insultinq and a perfect example of what i mean when i say white people just dont qet it. i said im done arquinq, debatinq and i am, now im reflectinq.

In all fairness I was talking to other minorities about this issue who have expereinced persecution and some of them didn't feel to bad about it. Well I guess we are all different and react differently to different circumstances. However the fact of the matter is comics still dont reflect the real world. Even those arguing against me admit it.

King KAM
this whole thread is Proposterous!!! everyone knows a black justice league would never work!....

because theyd all probably be to lazy to get up and fight crime...and just sit at home eating watermelon and drinking grape drink while frying chicken and watchin big butt videos on BET,on welfare!

Alfheim
Originally posted by King KAM
this whole thread is Proposterous!!! everyone knows a black justice league would never work!....

because theyd all probably be to lazy to get up and fight crime...and just sit at home eating watermelon and drinking grape drink while frying chicken and watchin big butt videos on BET,on welfare!

LOL

Kinneary
Originally posted by Dynamic One
no its not. im not qonna say because im not. white people in america, and western europe, have no viable claim to racism. the rulinq class cannot make an arqument aqainst the minority class for usinq exclusionary tactics. im not claiminq im always for separation based on race cominq from within a culture because i do believe that if you cut yourself off for too lonq from other cultures it can be detrimental. however unlike you i can understand why minorities whether black, latino, native american or asian would do it. for those claiminq to have no lack of interest in race....whatever, you are either an exception, bullshittinq, or blind. the racial claims and exposure claims have a common link. however once aqan i just want to point out that i, and probably a lot of other people would not have a problem with an all latino/asian/native american/icelandic/black/antarctic or whatever team. at this point thouqh im done tryinq to qet my point across on an internet forum where a majority (white) of the people will not and very possibly comprehend. you have to be one of us to understand and you are not and i qet that and i understand so im done. at this point the whole thinq is futile because at the end of the day you can run back, cut yourself off in whatever wood/brook/park/ridqe you came from and feel qood about yourself because your white and im wronq. peace, holla
Wait, so it's impossible for anyone except white people to be racist? Is that what you're saying?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1449254
A black man tried to keep whites from voting. But, of course, that's not racism, is it? White people just don't 'understand.' It was perfectly justified.

http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06.htm
"... whites are the second most targetted group for the racial & ethnic categories combined. there are more hate crimes against whites than against Hispanics, American-Indians, Asian and Multiple race groups. Whites are also the racial & ethnic group the most frequently targetted for inter-racial crimes."

I really want you to read that one. Please. Read it.


Really, do you want me to go on? Racism against whites is alive and kicking, and it's so dangerous because people like you don't think it's a problem or that it even EXISTS.

King KAM
Originally posted by Kinneary
Wait, so it's impossible for anyone except white people to be racist? Is that what you're saying?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1449254
A black man tried to keep whites from voting. But, of course, that's not racism, is it? White people just don't 'understand.' It was perfectly justified.

http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06.htm
"... whites are the second most targetted group for the racial & ethnic categories combined. there are more hate crimes against whites than against Hispanics, American-Indians, Asian and Multiple race groups. Whites are also the racial & ethnic group the most frequently targetted for inter-racial crimes."

I really want you to read that one. Please. Read it.


Really, do you want me to go on? Racism against whites is alive and kicking, and it's so dangerous because people like you don't think it's a problem or that it even EXISTS. shaddup

inamilist
Originally posted by Kinneary
Wait, so it's impossible for anyone except white people to be racist? Is that what you're saying?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1449254
A black man tried to keep whites from voting. But, of course, that's not racism, is it? White people just don't 'understand.' It was perfectly justified.

http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06.htm
"... whites are the second most targetted group for the racial & ethnic categories combined. there are more hate crimes against whites than against Hispanics, American-Indians, Asian and Multiple race groups. Whites are also the racial & ethnic group the most frequently targetted for inter-racial crimes."

I really want you to read that one. Please. Read it.


Really, do you want me to go on? Racism against whites is alive and kicking, and it's so dangerous because people like you don't think it's a problem or that it even EXISTS.


haha, canada is amazing smile

long pig
Eh?
We don't need no damn month of reflection. Hell, we didn't even ask for it FFS. It was implemented by whites as was the abolition of slavery. They felt guilty so they threw us a bone.

It's stupid to have a "Black Month". Actually, it's more insulting than it could ever be helpful.

God, how do I hate the "Crackers get 11 months so we should get at least one!.

DUMBdumbdumbdumbdumbdumb.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Kinneary
Wait, so it's impossible for anyone except white people to be racist? Is that what you're saying?

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1449254
A black man tried to keep whites from voting. But, of course, that's not racism, is it? White people just don't 'understand.' It was perfectly justified.

http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06.htm
"... whites are the second most targetted group for the racial & ethnic categories combined. there are more hate crimes against whites than against Hispanics, American-Indians, Asian and Multiple race groups. Whites are also the racial & ethnic group the most frequently targetted for inter-racial crimes."

I really want you to read that one. Please. Read it.


Really, do you want me to go on? Racism against whites is alive and kicking, and it's so dangerous because people like you don't think it's a problem or that it even EXISTS.

You are taking what he said out of context. With all due respect I think you should take a deep breath and read his post again.

Big Sexy
Originally posted by long pig
Eh?
We don't need no damn month of reflection. Hell, we didn't even ask for it FFS. It was implemented by whites as was the abolition of slavery. They felt guilty so they threw us a bone.

It's stupid to have a "Black Month". Actually, it's more insulting than it could ever be helpful.

God, how do I hate the "Crackers get 11 months so we should get at least one!.

DUMBdumbdumbdumbdumbdumb. laughing Did anyone know this month is Hispanic month?

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