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Nightwing
troia
tempest
arsenal
wallywest
starfire
raven (included these to to make it equal line up)


vs

superman
wonderwoman
aquaman
batman
jonn jonnzzz
GL hal jordan
Flash II

Originally posted by ALEMASTER
Nightwing
troia
tempest
arsenal
wallywest
starfire
raven (included these to to make it equal line up)


vs

superman
wonderwoman
aquaman
batman
jonn jonnzzz
GL hal jordan
Flash II

No one to really compete with Superman or Wonder Woman

So I say JLA.

at the levels they were back then? or now?


Not competing with Supes or Wondy?

Flash. Pure and simple.

but i thought raven was comparable to pheonixs power.rolleyes1

Originally posted by Blair Wind
at the levels they were back then? or now?


Not competing with Supes or Wondy?

Flash. Pure and simple.

The JLA have a Flash too so it's only obvious they'll occupy each other. And Donna and Starfire can be put down by Diana or Superman alone but on there together makes it worst much worst. Then you realize Hal is there and you start to feel bad for the Titans.

Raven has a cosmic plot device power and some nasty empathic abilities but she isn't a Phoenix rival. Don't know where that came from.

KMC hyperbole...


and sorry but Flash II is nothing to Wally.

Raven should = GL

Tempest is one of the most powerful DC heroes there are, he can freeze all of them in an instant, optic blast, or do magic


but I disgrees. MM just telepathically kicks their butts...

Originally posted by Validus
Raven has a cosmic plot device power and some nasty empathic abilities but she isn't a Phoenix rival. Don't know where that came from.

True that's 1 for the Titan and 3 for the JLA Hal's ring, WW's lasso and Superman pretty much altogether.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
KMC hyperbole...


and sorry but Flash II is nothing to Wally.

Raven should = GL

Tempest is one of the most powerful DC heroes there are, he can freeze all of them in an instant, optic blast, or do magic


but I disgrees. MM just telepathically kicks their butts...

JLA have strength, experience and speed

Too much power on the JLA team.

Originally posted by Validus
Raven has a cosmic plot device power and some nasty empathic abilities but she isn't a Phoenix rival. Don't know where that came from.
somebody told me that, i didnt believe them one bit, but they still argued, stupid i know.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Too much power on the JLA team.

Obvious to you too right?

Originally posted by LethalFemme
JLA have strength, experience and speed

If they are in current versions everyone here has experience. Tempest and Raven are the power, Flash (Wally) is the fastest man on both teams. I dont know anything about Trioa and Starfire, but the rest of team is dead. These guys though should be able to hold there one.

fudge that, Wally takes ALL their speed

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla075455rb.jpg

he did that to a whole planet....

Originally posted by Blair Wind
fudge that, Wally takes ALL their speed

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla075455rb.jpg

he did that to a whole planet....



Even without their speed the JLA still have durability

ummmm....with no speed they are motionless statues....he steals ALL kinetic energy. Durability? pfffffffffft:

http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003045tf.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003056zx.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003064go.jpg
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jla003073nt.jpg


AND hes superman level (the martian)

Exactly why Wally is banned from the tourney.

sadangel

Actually, even though he could take Hal's kinetic energy he could still will himself to move.

Originally posted by Validus
Actually, even though he could take Hal's kinetic energy he could still will himself to move.

shh don't tell him that

Raven chomps on his emotions thanks to the whole paralax thing....must make a man think twice...its a team more than just flash

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Raven chomps on his emotions thanks to the whole paralax thing....must make a man think twice...its a team more than just flash
Or Hal blasts her to pieces like Kyle did when she went bonkers. bloogen

So if all kinetic energy is stolen does this mean that Jon can't mind rape? If he can...

Tempest then freezes his brain molecules, or makes fire (I know hes not scared anymore, but hey the writers ignore it too)

you guys are all underestimating them just because JLA is more well known.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Tempest then freezes his brain molecules, or makes fire (I know hes not scared anymore, but hey the writers ignore it too)

you guys are all underestimating them just because JLA is more well known.

and has more power, durability, experience, etc

Im sorry, but their speed being gone KOs in a sense almost all but two heros. Tempest and Raven take care of them...and they would have to struggle to move in the first place...

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Tempest then freezes his brain molecules, or makes fire (I know hes not scared anymore, but hey the writers ignore it too)

you guys are all underestimating them just because JLA is more well known.

Why wouldn't Jon become intangible as soon as the match starts?

kinetic energy is still in play even while intangible isnt it? That includes the electrical sparks in the brain. Kinetic energy drain take it.

Kinetic energy can also be included with heat, since heat's merely the movement of molecules.

Aquaman >> Temptest

Batman > Nightwing

Wally > Barry (only in speed)

Diana >> Donna

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Hal >> Starfire

John < Raven

Superman > x 10000000 Arsenal