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I read somewhere that people in early civilisations used gossip to position themselves higher in the social groups - knowing who does what contributed greatly to this.


What do you think about gossip? Do you participate in it? How often and why do you gossip, if you do?

Personally, I believe the sociological theory of ''othering'' applies to gossip very neatly - people usually look for weaknesses and negative traits in others, so that they could distance themselves from them.
By identifying other people as weak, irresponsible, sexually deviant and promiscuous, people hope to point away for what they don't want to be identified with - so in order to do so, they have to identify someone else as that.

Do you believe this applies? If not, why do you think gossip happens?

I personally don't like gossip much, it seems rather pointless to me, at least in our modern society. I don't need to know who slept with who and who was arrested for what when they were 17....it seems to me it is just cheap entertainment. Then again I might be wrong and it might have a valuable position in our Society...but I doubt it.

As perverse as it sounds, gossip can help induce social cohesion through sharing. However, it is usually derogatory in its reference to 'victims' of the gossiping, so I generally don't indulge. Unless it's something harmless like Bardock impregnating a walrus. Again.

I don't like to judge others, but I know that gossip belongs to those people who are not very far spiritually evolved - they still live in the realm of animal-like instinct of selfish survival patternsa and not on the more mature beam of compassion for humanity.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
As perverse as it sounds, gossip can help induce social cohesion through sharing. However, it is usually derogatory in its reference to 'victims' of the gossiping, so I generally don't indulge. Unless it's something harmless like Bardock impregnating a walrus. Again.

Well, that might be true, you do share some "secrets" with each other which might strengthen the bonds between the participants. At least gossip is fair as in everyone gets gossiped about, even Floo, I still think people should rather go watch a movie though.


She'll get an abortion....after all I believe in it.

Originally posted by Wonderer
I don't like to judge others, but I know that gossip belongs to those people who are not very far spiritually evolved - they still live in the realm of animal-like instinct of selfish survival patternsa and not on the more mature beam of compassion for humanity.
That's so funny that you started off with the "I don't like to judge others" disclaimer as if it neutralizes your subsequent generalisation.

Funny, funny, funny. Poo.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
As perverse as it sounds, gossip can help induce social cohesion through sharing.

Interesting idea...

But I think gossip is a product of our socialising, rather a factor contributing to socialising.

I agree with Floo's assessment. In addition to the obvious result of self-betterment, it creates a bond with the gosipper and the gossippee that may not have existed beforehand.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
That's so funny that you started off with the "I don't like to judge others" disclaimer as if it neutralizes your subsequent generalisation.

Funny, funny, funny. Poo.

The typical "I don't want to sound racist, but negros are just not the same level as humans, they are closer to animals"....always funny, funny, funny and poo indeed.

Originally posted by botankus
I agree with Floo's assessment. In addition to the obvious result of self-betterment, it creates a bond with the gosipper and the gossippee that may not have existed beforehand.

You mean like one would have the feeling of stabbing the other one in the eye - a feeling and a bond they have never felt beforehand.


But back on topic - noone actually adressed my questions.

I asked WHY people gossip, not what is the sagnificance of gossip. Im sure people who gossip don't necesseraly think ''I shall socially enrich myself by making up a story''?

...or maybe they do...strange world we live in.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You mean like one would have the feeling of stabbing the other one in the eye - a feeling and a bond they have never felt beforehand.


But back on topic - noone actually adressed my questions.

I asked WHY people gossip, not what is the sagnificance of gossip. Im sure people who gossip don't necesseraly think ''I shall socially enrich myself by making up a story''?

...or maybe they do...strange world we live in.

I think I said it..twice actually...ENTERTAINMENT

Originally posted by Bardock42
The typical "I don't want to sound racist, but negros are just not the same level as humans, they are closer to animals"....always funny, funny, funny and poo indeed.

Yeah..."I don't mean to insult you, but you're a f*cking dick who likes to suck the shit from the assholes of snails". You see? It's OK because I said "I don't mean to insult you...". Magic. Abroocadoobree.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I asked WHY people gossip, not what is the sagnificance of gossip.

People gossip to show they know stuff about other people. Social hierarchy in the here and now. Like you said.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Yeah..."I don't mean to insult you, but you're a f*cking dick who likes to suck the shit from the assholes of snails". You see? It's OK because I said "I don't mean to insult you...". Magic. Abroocadoobree.



People gossip to show they know stuff about other people. Social hierarchy in the here and now. Like you said.

I know man, and I totally don't feel insulted because you said it.

Why do people gossip? They have too much time on their hands. They are empty inside themselves. They are egotistical and idiotic.
There's big money in gossip though - just look at the gossip magazines out there.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
It's OK because I said "I don't mean to insult you...". Magic. Abroocadoobree.
Yup. Just like when I said earlier: "I don't like to judge..."

Originally posted by Bardock42
The typical "I don't want to sound racist, but negros are just not the same level as humans, they are closer to animals"....always funny, funny, funny and poo indeed.

Damn, you Germans are racist . Just like us South Africans over here.

I believe most people gossip because they have some inferiority complex and need to feel important..........I hate gossip.........

Originally posted by debbiejo
I believe most people gossip because they have some inferiority complex and need to feel important..........I hate gossip.........


I would agree with that. The type of people that gossip, probably don't know all that much about the situation, but take as little information as they can, and make it into something much more interesting. This can also lead to rumors.

Originally posted by A.D. Skinner
I would agree with that. The type of people that gossip, probably don't know all that much about the situation, but take as little information as they can, and make it into something much more interesting. This can also lead to rumors. And at some point the person won't ever be trusted again. No one will trust the "gossiper"....

Originally posted by debbiejo
And at some point the person won't ever be trusted again. No one will trust the "gossiper"....

Yeah...that happens....all the time......IN HOLLYWOOD MOVIES.

Originally posted by debbiejo
And at some point the person won't ever be trusted again. No one will trust the "gossiper"....

Absolutely. There are a couple of people that I know that are true Gossipers and I don't really put too much faith in anything they tell me, for it usually turns out to be wrong.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You mean like one would have the feeling of stabbing the other one in the eye - a feeling and a bond they have never felt beforehand.

Not all gossip is like that. If you tell a co-worker that someone ran out of toilet paper in the men's room and had to use the window curtains, I don't think that would involve too much back-stabbing there.

Originally posted by botankus
Not all gossip is like that. If you tell a co-worker that someone ran out of toilet paper in the men's room and had to use the window curtains, I don't think that would involve too much back-stabbing there.

Okay, but is that really considered Gossip?

"Psst, A.D. Skinner wiped his bum using the curtains in the bathroom!"


That's a rumor and therefore gossip. Actually, I think it's fact.

^^

But I believe gossip actually hurts somebody. It's a broken trust. And once a trust is broken people will never trust you.

I've attended churches where something was told to a pastor in confidence only to be told to the congragation when that member wasnt there...........That's a big no no.

If I said Debbiejo slept with Bardock, and neither of you cared that it was told, it would still be gossip but wouldn't hurt you. It's all relative. In fact, I heard you both were pretty proud of it.

Now I agree, most gossip hurts, but to say it's all devastating and back-stabbing is a bit much.

Originally posted by botankus
"Psst, A.D. Skinner wiped his bum using the curtains in the bathroom!"


That's a rumor and therefore gossip. Actually, I think it's fact.

Yup, that is a rumor and therefore gossip.

But like I said before, gossip is usually only a part of the story.

Actually the curtains were yours, and I have already hung them back up for you!

Originally posted by botankus
If I said Debbiejo slept with Bardock, and neither of you cared that it was told, it would still be gossip but wouldn't hurt you. It's all relative. In fact, I heard you both were pretty proud of it.

Now I agree, most gossip hurts, but to say it's all devastating and back-stabbing is a bit much. How did you find out!!!


hahahaha

True, If a person doesn't care, then there is no problem. And usually you can tell when talking to that person if they do or not.....If not sure, you can always ask, "Is this a secret?".......But generally people say "Please don't share this with anyone.".......

Wait a second...debbiejo is the walrus? Was she the first one or the sloppy second?

Bardock! You need to explain youself before this gets out of hand...

It was the walrus who told me not to tell.

Oh, man! It's getting worse. So, we've got Bardock, a walrus, debbiejo, a whole lot of dirty sex, and a bunch of keys for doors that lead to special passages...It's just so disturbing.

Originally posted by botankus
It was the walrus who told me not to tell. I'll never ever trust that walrus again.....

Botankus, how could you........Now the whole world knows...........

Floo, you're just jealous....But we already know about YOU and Bardock..........and the fish, and the jellyfish, and Eskimo camera...

So, in relating to this gossip topic, who would you be more upset with, Debs? The walrus for telling me the dirty secret even though he promised not to, or me for babbling about it after I promised not to?

Before you answer 'walrus,' keep in mind that it was my babbling that got the rumor out to everyone.

Originally posted by botankus
So, in relating to this gossip topic, who would you be more upset with, Debs? The walrus for telling me the dirty secret even though he promised not to, or me for babbling about it after I promised not to?

Before you answer 'walrus,' keep in mind that it was my babbling that got the rumor out to everyone. Good point....The blasted walrus...........And I would not be speaking to that walrus again.......In fact I'd be very angry with it, and of course the walrus would try to make up to me saying "oh, it just slipped out", then the walrus would run to you and ---->>>

You are all gossipianizing about me...you hurt my feelings....I am crying.

gossip

Gossip can hurt tremendously. Not only that, but in my mind, most of the time it's innacurate, or downright completely wrong information. Gossip mongers are sad, usually bitter little people, with little else in their lives to stimulate their idle minds, ergo, they speculate and formulate stupidity in order to hurt others.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are all gossipianizing about me...you hurt my feelings....I am crying. Me too crybaby
You weren't even that good..............Ah oh.........did I start another rumor???




Did you have to use the words "Little people?"

Originally posted by debbiejo
Me too crybaby
You weren't even that good..............Ah oh.........did I start another rumor???
Yes, I believe you just formulated stupidity in order to hurt others.

Originally posted by debbiejo
crybaby




Did you have to use the words "Little people?"

Not little in stature, little in itellect.

Talking about events that have happened with mutual friends or what not, that's different. Like if friends have a fight and you discuss it, I don't consider that to be gossip.

The gossip I think of when I hear the word is the kind that involves women talking about everything that isn't their business, judging people on it and spreading it around.

Gossip is stupid, I couldn't care less what new shoes so and so just got, or who she's sleeping with. It's for Big Brother fans who aren't content with their own existence.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The gossip I think of when I hear the word is the kind that involves women talking about everything that isn't their business, judging people on it and spreading it around.

Oh right, because men don't gossip at all!

how utterly ridiculous thing to associate gossip with someone's sex.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh right, because men don't gossip at all!

how utterly ridiculous thing to associate gossip with someone's sex.

However, it is pertinent to add that David Crystal has extensively researched language use between the sexes and, amongst linguists, it has been agreed that women partake in 'verbal communions'. This type of 'linguistic sharing' can be easily parralleled with a definition of 'gossiping'. Men, on the other hand, generally use verbal interaction as a way of promoting themselves, rather than talking about others.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
However, it is pertinent to add that David Crystal has extensively researched language use between the sexes and, amongst linguists, it has been agreed that women partake in 'verbal communions'. This type of 'linguistic sharing' can be easily parralleled with a definition of 'gossiping'. Men, on the other hand, generally use verbal interaction as a way of promoting themselves, rather than talking about others.

I complitely disagree with this, firstly because gender is a socially constructed term. It is not a dichotomy, and characteristics other than obvious phyisical differances cannot be associated with sex - this includes use of language.

When you say ''men'' do you mean white, middle class, straight westerners?

David Crystal's extensive research of language is ethnocentric and as far as I can see, cannot and does not apply to a 'general' rule.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I complitely disagree with this, firstly because gender is a socially constructed term. It is not a dichotomy, and characteristics other than obvious phyisical differances cannot be associated with sex - this includes use of language.

When you say ''men'' do you mean white, middle class, straight westerners?

David Crystal's extensive research of language is ethnocentric and as far as I can see, cannot and does not apply to a 'general' rule.
Gender is definately not a social construction, rather, it precipitates the construction process and form of social order. The male gender carries the heavier supportive weight, while the female gender hovers the higher layers. In terms of language utility, the male habit is to enforce and ensure, while the female's is to engage in the force, hence gossip is to be found more often on the female pole.

Gossip is the bane to any relationship.
Gossip is bad news.

Men are the locker room and bar scenes of promoting themselves and what they know.........no better then women on the subject, IMO

I've heard it all............ One sex isn't better at it then the other.............though for some reason men seem to get away with it more than women..........stereo typing.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Men are the locker room and bar scenes of promoting themselves and what they know.........no better then women on the subject, IMO

I've heard it all............ One sex isn't better at it then the other.............though for some reason men seem to get away with it more than women..........stereo typing.

I think based on perceptions, it doesn't get seen as gossip when men do it. They have a yak, "take the piss" out of people all that - blokey stuff, mens business.

When it comes to women however it is portrayed as something more sinister - they are being conniving, two faced, bitchy back stabbers. An interesting and quite an unfair bit of stereotyping. A lot like the whole women sleep around they get called a derogative term, a guy does it he's a stud - though this two apparently has its roots in gossip and that gender divide.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I think based on perceptions, it doesn't get seen as gossip when men do it. They have a yak, "take the piss" out of people all that - blokey stuff, mens business.

When it comes to women however it is portrayed as something more sinister - they are being conniving, two faced, bitchy back stabbers. An interesting and quite an unfair bit of stereotyping. A lot like the whole women sleep around they get called a derogative term, a guy does it he's a stud - though this two apparently has its roots in gossip and that gender divide.
Hence the reason why a show called "Desperate Househusbands" would be a monumental bust.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I think based on perceptions, it doesn't get seen as gossip when men do it. They have a yak, "take the piss" out of people all that - blokey stuff, mens business.

When it comes to women however it is portrayed as something more sinister - they are being conniving, two faced, bitchy back stabbers. An interesting and quite an unfair bit of stereotyping. A lot like the whole women sleep around they get called a derogative term, a guy does it he's a stud - though this two apparently has its roots in gossip and that gender divide. It may seem that women have gotten a bad rap because of Biblical reasons, but men do just the same.............A secret shared is a locket of gold to someone they might want to impress..Yes??

Originally posted by debbiejo
It may seem that women have gotten a bad rap because of Biblical reasons, but men do just the same.............A secret shared is a locket of gold to someone they might want to impress..Yes??

Reminds me of an old historical act.

Back in Roman days, when a man was in a meeting, it was quite possible he would allow his wife to sit in as well, in order to advise him while he hobnobbed with the fat cats of whatever business he was in. Of course, being a women she couldn't be seen to be doing this, so she was behind a curtain behind her husbands chair, whispering out to him.

The whole power behind the throne, but that negative image of the women conniving in the shadows behind he husbands back. Rather unfair.

Psst! Did you hear the rumor? Gay Guy pwns everybody at KMC! Pass it on!

Shhhhhhhhh...........really?...............pm me............K?

promise........won't tell.............

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Oh right, because men don't gossip at all!

how utterly ridiculous thing to associate gossip with someone's sex.

How utterly ridiculous to assume that I believe men don't gossip. Read the post again, then perhaps we can continue this discussion. Ok, pumpkin? Good.

I said it's the kind of thing that is associated with the word "Gossip". There are gossip magazines specifically made for women, sometimes even with similar titles that show they are made for women.

Remember, Lil. It's look, then leap. Not leap first.

-AC

Ya know, when you call people "Pumpkin".........it kinda sets a really bad tone.............Not much positive can come from that little bro.

AC> Different genders may gossip about different THINGS. But it is STILL gossip...

(I can't for the life of me figure out why SOME women find some movie stars new hair-cut or break-up interesting... But, hey... Just as I can't figure out how football-play A's goal-record is interesting either)

Not at all, you're entirely missing the point, and the concept of gossip. Gossip isn't any kind of casual conversation about commonality, it's a specific act or idea.

You can't gossip about cars, it defies logic. You don't gossip about sports, do you? No. It makes no sense to label males discussing what are typically male subjects, as gossip, just for the sake of trying to make things even. I'm sure some men do gossip, women gossip, but the gossip that springs to mind when the word is said is the kind that has become synonymous with females. Proven with the magazine comparison.

My mum won't walk out the door without looking "presentable", even if she looks perfectly ok. I ask her why, "Because I don't want people to see me like this. What will they think?" It's a typically female trait to be concerned with A) Things that don't concern you and B) Things that don't matter, eg: Victoria Beckham's new shoes or who Jennifer Aniston is dating. Not exclusively, not totally, but typically. It's not something people attach to the male gender, it's not a demeanour that is common enough in men to be considered a male trait.

My dad, on the other hand, doesn't say "Shit, I can't drive my car with it looking like that. The man next door might see and harbour some sub-par thoughts of me."

Not all females are like this, naturally. Just like all men don't love blondes, cars and things of that nature. However, I don't stand up and say "Those things are not typically male!". They are to the fullest. They don't apply to me, but they are typically male in that it is synonymous more so with males, than females, and so is gossip for women. It's not exclusively female, but it is typically a female trait.

What I can't stand is females trying to deny this just because they do not gossip. I don't like to bang on about cars, engines and fast things that go whoosh, but those are traits that would be considered typically male. Females, such as Lil, tend to knee-jerk the reaction of "Everyone gossips! Men gossip! It's not just women! It's equal!", just because they don't wish to be lumped in. You're not being lumped in, if you aren't one of those people then you're simply not one of those people, but let's not kid ourselves, with some kind of feminist made rose-tinted glasses, into believing that typical gossip is typically female.

-AC

LOL...you guys are funny.

You're agreeing with each other and acting like you're not.

Gossip is the tool of every self serving human being on the planet. Gossip can be both harmless and shameful. I know from experience (and before Whob comes into the thread and talks about gay people who talk too much) that straight guys talk just as much, if not more, than do women. It's human nature to gossip.

Calling everything gossip is like calling killing murder, though.

Gossip is specific. Men standing around talking about cars and women standing around talking about other people's social lives are two different things.

Again, of course men gossip, just like there are women who are massively into cars or other typical male things. I'm just trying to point out why it's typically female, the traditional idea of gossip.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Calling everything gossip is like calling killing murder, though.

Gossip is specific. Men standing around talking about cars and women standing around talking about other people's social lives are two different things.

Again, of course men gossip, just like there are women who are massively into cars or other typical male things. I'm just trying to point out why it's typically female, the traditional idea of gossip.

-AC

But, I never specified gossip. And while I understand that your point is that it is often associated with women, I wasn't addressing what does and does not qualify. I was addressing the typical notion of gossip. That being the spreading of rumors without a basis, in proven truth, for telling someone else as though it were factual. I'm just saying it's a basic human instict to side with one person over another in any given situation...and you're both saying that.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I complitely disagree with this, firstly because gender is a socially constructed term. It is not a dichotomy, and characteristics other than obvious phyisical differances cannot be associated with sex - this includes use of language.

The thing with a broad discussion is that you generally apply your hypotheses in general terms. Hence, my agreement with Crystals supposition that the language use of women is different to that of men.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
When you say ''men'' do you mean white, middle class, straight westerners?

No, not exclusively.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
David Crystal's extensive research of language is ethnocentric and as far as I can see, cannot and does not apply to a 'general' rule.

An ethnocentric evalulation does not negate its relevance to the subject of gossip, and it certainly can be applied as a general rule.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
LOL...you guys are funny.

You're agreeing with each other and acting like you're not.

Gossip is the tool of every self serving human being on the planet. Gossip can be both harmless and shameful. I know from experience (and before Whob comes into the thread and talks about gay people who talk too much) that straight guys talk just as much, if not more, than do women. It's human nature to gossip.

I tend to disagree with this as well. It is so often said that certain things are ''in our nature'', while I do not believe they are.

Socialisation created gossip - Its not in our nature.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
The thing with a broad discussion is that you generally apply your hypotheses in general terms. Hence, my agreement with Crystals supposition that the language use of women is different to that of men.



No, not exclusively.



An ethnocentric evalulation does not negate its relevance to the subject of gossip, and it certainly can be applied as a general rule.

Enthnocentric evalutation applies exclusively to the people Crystal is arguing are gossiping.

As The Omega already pointed out, it is a social weapon which is used by people of both sex, and it cannot be exclusively attributed to either sex.

I don't actually know a girl which can gossip more than my boyfriend. I think I know everything about who slept with whom at his work. I also know what his co-worker said about his girlfriend to the girl hes cheating with. I also know how Jullian asked my boyfriend if he knows any hotels around Brighton cos he wanted to take girl into a hotel room, because his girlfriend was at his house.
WTF?

I don't even wanna know what they talk about between themselves. I for a fact know that they (boys) talk about women at work, and which one is easy and which one slept with which one.

Im not saying my boyfriend is the general rule, but he is the exception to the stereotype, and im sure there are plenty more.

Gender has nothing to do with gossip - it has to do with what kind of things are being said, but they are not neceseraly NOt gossip.

Nobody is saying gossip is exclusive to one gender and reading my post would have revealed this to you.

The fact is (yes, fact) that it's a typically female trait. Both genders do it, like both genders have people who love cars and sex, but it doesn't stop these things (former more than latter) being typically male. Typically, not exclusively. As is gossip typically female, let's not deny this. It doesn't reflect on you.

-AC

Gossip is for lonely housewives who watch the E! channel too much.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Gender has nothing to do with gossip - it has to do with what kind of things are being said, but they are not neceseraly NOt gossip.

Exactly!

Originally posted by BackFire
Gossip is for lonely housewives who watch the E! channel too much.

Now you are gossiping about lonely housewives

Originally posted by The Omega
Now you are gossiping about lonely housewives

That's the broadest definition of "(to) gossip" I ever heard.....to be honest, it seems to be strangely synonymous with "(to) talk"...might just be a mistake on my side though.

Originally posted by The Omega
Now you are gossiping about lonely housewives


No I'm not, I'm just making a statement about them. Gossip would be - "OHHH MY GODDD! Did you guys hear? I heard from my sisters friend while we were eating icecream and watching All my Children that housewives gossip more than anyyyyone! Like wow! Let's watch the Fashion patrol! Joan Rivers is soooooo funny and witty, she says what we think!"

Bardock/Backfire> It is in the combination of the inherent negativity of "Lonely house wives", "the E! channel" and "gossip" that it did indeed become ... gossip

I think I am very much able to see the difference in a general joke and gossip. Backfire's statement just doesn't qualify as gossip.

Omega, gossip is a typically female trait, nobody is saying it's exclusively female, just typically so, which is a fact. Why you and Lil are getting on the defensive is baffling.

Originally posted by The Omega
Bardock/Backfire> It is in the combination of the inherent negativity of "Lonely house wives", "the E! channel" and "gossip" that it did indeed become ... gossip

No, it's not, by any stretch of the term. It was a statement, a statement regarding certain things. Not a discussion.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think I am very much able to see the difference in a general joke and gossip. Backfire's statement just doesn't qualify as gossip.

Haha, leave it, she's a woman. She'll get the point, it just takes them longer.

-AC

Oh, dude, you know how to piss women off. That won't go down well with lil b....

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Haha, leave it, she's a woman. She'll get the point, it just takes them longer.

-AC

Wow... just WOW!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, dude, you know how to piss women off. That won't go down well with lil b....

I know, it wouldn't go down well with people who have senses of humour that are comparable to a plant. Hopefully there are people here who understand jocular sarcasm.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't like to bang on about cars, engines and fast things that go whoosh

You don't?

Nah, I grew out of that at about 12. Not that I was ever into it anyway.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nah, I grew out of that at about 12. Not that I was ever into it anyway.

-AC

F@GGOT!

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nah, I grew out of that at about 12. Not that I was ever into it anyway.

-AC

Grew out of it? At 12, my car interest was barely getting started. I personally believe that if you own a car (especially men) you should know how the thing works and how to fix it. Not just "I know how to turn it on, and step on the gas."

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Grew out of it? At 12, my car interest was barely getting started. I personally believe that if you own a car (especially men) you should know how the thing works and how to fix it. Not just "I know how to turn it on, and step on the gas."

But, if every guy would be able to do that, you'd be kind of out of business, wouldn't you?

Anyways, I mean, can't we all agree that gossiping is seen as a female activity. If that's right or wrong doesn't matter, but the media portrays it as such, and the general public buys it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
As The Omega already pointed out, it is a social weapon which is used by people of both sex, and it cannot be exclusively attributed to either sex.

Yeah, but it's like this: Gossiping is not exclusive to women, but it is more prevalent among them. Why? Because it's an intrinsic part of their social interaction and bonding experience. No, Bardock...Not 'bondage'.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Gender has nothing to do with gossip - it has to do with what kind of things are being said, but they are not neceseraly NOt gossip.

Same as what I just said, but add some bells. With bows. And ripened Guavas.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But, if every guy would be able to do that, you'd be kind of out of business, wouldn't you?

Well I don't do repairs; I do performance, custom, and detail work. But I do see your point.

My point is that I believe you should have a basic understanding of automotive mechanics. So when it comes to minor repairs, you can save your self a little money. Of course, the more serious/critical repairs and projects should be left to the pros.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Well I don't do repairs; I do performance, custom, and detail work. But I do see your point.

My point is that I believe you should have a basic understanding of automotive mechanics. So when it comes to minor repairs, you can save your self a little money. Of course, the more serious/critical repairs and projects should be left to the pros.

Well, i guess if you buy a car or own one you should have a slight understanding of it, but in our society it is hardly necessary to be able to repair a car. And even if, it's not just something guys should know, but women top the same extend.
And you could argue the same thing about Computers, yet most people don't know much beyond how to start it.