Most Overrated & Underrated Characters

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Scorpion_Master
So..

Tell who you think is the most Overrated Character(s)
And who is most Underrated (Who Originate from a Game)

And pleas tell why...


big grin


ninja

Sin Harvest
Overrated: Any character from a game that can only be damaged with a certain weapon found in that game. Just because that is the only thing that hurts that character in that game doesn't mean something from another game couldn't hurt him/her.

Underrated: Mario. People don't realize that Mario is capable of fighting for he went through hordes of Koopas since Super Mario Bros and has many powers to help back him up.

Spartan005
Underated- Master Chief.. no one likes him sad

Smasandian
Originally posted by Spartan005
Underated- Master Chief.. no one likes him sad

Your kidding me?

Him underrated?

That's a joke

They're a more people who adore MC than people who hate him. The majority of people just hate him because he is so popular.



Unless you meant that as a joke.

Spartan005
Well, its just that a LOT of people on this website seem to think that Halo is way overated... so

MadMel
i dont...i like halo...sweet game!!

crazy_shadow
i think it's over rated. and Master Chief is kind of a gay name...sounds like "master cook" or something. -.-

MadMel
wtf...names arent important....

crazy_shadow
lol just the point is they coulda thought of something cool :3

but yeah i never really liked the game to where i would die if i didn't play it for 3 hours.

RedAlertv2
Underrated - Sam Fisher (Splinter Cell)

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by crazy_shadow
i think it's over rated. and Master Chief is kind of a gay name...sounds like "master cook" or something. -.-

What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

BackFire
Overrated - Sephiroth

Underrated- Kefka

Sin Harvest
Yeah, Kefka is underrated. He single handly turned the world into darkness and chaos and declared himself God and many people followed him because they feared him of his power.

Underrated: Luigi

Scorpion_Master
Overrated: Well i think most Streat fighter Characters is Overrated, Cuz people think they never can loose and they are the same level as Goku...

And i think Dante can be overrated

Underrated: In some case i think Scorpion is underrated, Some Tekken characters and Mario & Luigi

Thats all I can think of.... no expression


ninja

kamikz
Overrated: Street fighters, Seprioth...

Underrated: People that the game clearly informs can only die by one and only one mean..... stick out tongue
And Tidus...

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by kamikz
Overrated: Street fighters, Seprioth...

Underrated: People that the game clearly informs can only die by one and only one mean..... stick out tongue
And Tidus...

Then you shouldn't place those characters in any fight because that would be an unfair fight.

Like putting Hyper Sonic against Yoshi. That's overkill! Now put them together and ignore Hyper Sonic being invincible and that makes it more of a challenge.

kamikz
Well I have never made a single thread about a character that cannot die.

But mostly it was a joke....

Scorpion_Master
Overrated: Super Sonic, Super Shadow


ninja

Sin Harvest
How are those 2 overrated when they are invincible and have unlimited power?

Scorpion_Master
i think All overrat them.. they can only be super for 50 sec any way..

Sin Harvest
Depends on how many rings you give them

Scorpion_Master
50..?

Vinny Valentine
How the hell is Seph Overrated?

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Scorpion_Master
50..?

Hey you can give them 50, 100, 150, and so on and so forth but if one doesn't say how many rings they start out with in combat then it cannot be decided until he says so. And even then all Super Sonic/Shadow has to do is use Chaos Control to freeze time big grin

JToTheP
Underrated:Every character in every Tales Of game.

Overrated:Tails from Sonic, Chris in RE, Raiden in MGS2.

Scorpion_Master
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Hey you can give them 50, 100, 150, and so on and so forth but if one doesn't say how many rings they start out with in combat then it cannot be decided until he says so. And even then all Super Sonic/Shadow has to do is use Chaos Control to freeze time big grin Yeah... no expression1234


ninja

SaTsuJiN
overrated characters - most of the king of fighters cast

underrated characters - psychic force characters

Tallis
overrated: Characters from Street Fighter. People seem to think they are in the same level as DBZ. how wrong they are.

Underrated: Tales of characters, and many characters from Soul calibur

DarkC
Originally posted by crazy_shadow
i think it's over rated. and Master Chief is kind of a gay name...sounds like "master cook" or something. -.-
It's not his name. It's his rank. His real name's John.

kamikz
Originally posted by JToTheP
Underrated:Every character in every Tales Of game.

Overrated:Tails from Sonic, Chris in RE, Raiden in MGS2.


How is Raiden overrated? Just asking stick out tongue

BlaxicanTroller
Over rated: Sephroth and Master Chief, and pretty much any othr FF main character.

Under rated: Most if not all of Stacraft's main characters. Except for Kerrigan....b*tch...

Scorpion_Master
Yeah starcraft are good

Sub-Zero_Master
Overrated Characters/members: Shin Remy mad whit all Street Fighter BS that comes from his mouth,Super Sonic And Shadow who have to use PLOT DEVICE to be "strong" and they DON`T stand a chance against DBZ evil face,Hit & Miss whit his FAN-BOYISH behavior about Master Chief BS about he can lift a Planet,Where to grab it in the atmosphere messed?? IcePunk whit his FAN-BOYISH behavior about "Dante" is Strongest all the TiME sick thumb down

Underrated Characters:Voldo(Soul Calibur 2),Mario,Sub-Zero,Scorpion, Reptile,Noob Saibot,Samus,Mega Man,Terry Bogard,Spawn,Son-Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Boo,Broly,Zangief,Venom,Rock Lee,Naruto!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS THE TRUTH SO FAR!!!!!!

Scorpion_Master
Originally posted by Sub-Zero_Master
Overrated Characters/members: Shin Remy mad whit all Street Fighter BS that comes from his mouth,Super Sonic And Shadow who have to use PLOT DEVICE to be "strong" and they DON`T stand a chance against DBZ evil face,Hit & Miss whit his FAN-BOYISH behavior about Master Chief BS about he can lift a Planet,Where to grab it in the atmosphere messed??IcePunk whit his FAN-BOYISH behavior about Dante all the TiME sick thumb down

Underrated Characters:Voldo(Soul Calibur 2),Mario,Sub-Zero,Scorpion, Reptile,Noob Saibot,Samus,Mega Man,Terry Bogard,Spawn,Son-Goku,Vegeta,Gogeta,Boo,Broly,Zangief,Venom,Rock Lee,Naruto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thumb up thumb up laughing laughing laughing Thats so true!!!

Sin Harvest
Overrated: Master Chief by far with his amazing "planet lifting" abilities and can somehow carry all his weapons. Street Fighters characters and how so many people put them on par with DBZ characters. A couple of Final Fantasy characters like Tidus, Squall, Zidane, Cloud, Sephiroth, Kuja, Kadaj, and other major villains mainly because most of them have no true strength because they are only as strong as you make them. Kratos from God of War, oh no he killed a God but he needed to use Pandora's Box. Dante with that Devil Trigger and Spada, all of a sudden he's God. Knuckles with people saying he can defeat Sonic...which is dumb because Sonic already defeated Knuckles and Knux hasn't defeated Sonic. DBZ characters and for some reason everyone likes to think they're immortal Gods capable of anything and everything. Zelda characters, for some reason people like to think that just because Link had the Triforce makes him invincible and yet he isn't. Samus, a lot like of people like to make it seem like she is this great warrior who cannot be defeated by anyone. All the Star Wars characters; oh no they have the Force that must mean they automatically win. Superman...need I say anything here? Just go to the Goku vs. Superman thread.

Underrated: The Super Mario Bros, both Mario and Luigi and also King Bowser Koopa. Super Sonic/Shadow; as long as they have rings they have unlimited power and are invincible and have control of space and time. Megaman X and how some people say put him at his strongest, X would have unlimited power and control of space and time. Samus...she is either overrated or underrated all the time. Cut her some slack. Link, same with Samus.

Scorpion_Master
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Overrated: Master Chief by far with his amazing "planet lifting" abilities and can somehow carry all his weapons. Street Fighters characters and how so many people put them on par with DBZ characters. A couple of Final Fantasy characters like Tidus, Squall, Zidane, Cloud, Sephiroth, Kuja, Kadaj, and other major villains mainly because most of them have no true strength because they are only as strong as you make them. Kratos from God of War, oh no he killed a God but he needed to use Pandora's Box. Dante with that Devil Trigger and Spada, all of a sudden he's God. Knuckles with people saying he can defeat Sonic...which is dumb because Sonic already defeated Knuckles and Knux hasn't defeated Sonic. DBZ characters and for some reason everyone likes to think they're immortal Gods capable of anything and everything. Zelda characters, for some reason people like to think that just because Link had the Triforce makes him invincible and yet he isn't. Samus, a lot like of people like to make it seem like she is this great warrior who cannot be defeated by anyone. All the Star Wars characters; oh no they have the Force that must mean they automatically win. Superman...need I say anything here? Just go to the Goku vs. Superman thread.

Underrated: The Super Mario Bros, both Mario and Luigi and also King Bowser Koopa. Super Sonic/Shadow; as long as they have rings they have unlimited power and are invincible and have control of space and time. Megaman X and how some people say put him at his strongest, X would have unlimited power and control of space and time. Samus...she is either overrated or underrated all the time. Cut her some slack. Link, same with Samus. Well that was pretty good thumb up
But i dont think Mega man X or Samus is underrated..

ninja

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Scorpion_Master
Well that was pretty good thumb up
But i dont think Mega man X or Samus is underrated..

ninja

Samus is either overrated or underrated. Don't believe me check out half of her threads. People either make her sound like a Godess or make her seem like a child.

Scorpion_Master
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Samus is either overrated or underrated. Don't believe me check out half of her threads. People either make her sound like a Godess or make her seem like a child. Oh yeah your right forgot about that stick out tongue they even discriminated her


ninja

Red Superfly
Over-rated: Master Chief, Sephiroth, and anyone that stupid little fanboys and girls dribble and swoon over. Go create some more of that God-awful fan fiction porn, losers.

Under-rated: Superman. Clearly this guy is just freaking sweet, but because he lacks penis-extending normal-maps or a big stupid sword, and isn't drawn in some shitty anime style, he's overlooked. The man just overshadows pretty much every other living creature ever made. He'd cripple Chuck Norris just by sending him an angry letter.

So yeah, either Superman, or Princess Peach. She could take the majority of those cock sucking emo pretty boys like Cloud to school. Little Toad would rape Master Chief as Mario shoves a fireball up Sephiroths arse.

Scorpion_Master
...... no expression

Red Superfly
Originally posted by Scorpion_Master
...... no expression

Is that an impression of Master Chief? You've captured his charisma beautifully there.

BlaxicanTroller
Originally posted by Red Superfly
Over-rated: Master Chief, Sephiroth, and anyone that stupid little fanboys and girls dribble and swoon over. Go create some more of that God-awful fan fiction porn, losers.

Under-rated: Superman. Clearly this guy is just freaking sweet, but because he lacks penis-extending normal-maps or a big stupid sword, and isn't drawn in some shitty anime style, he's overlooked. The man just overshadows pretty much every other living creature ever made. He'd cripple Chuck Norris just by sending him an angry letter.

So yeah, either Superman, or Princess Peach. She could take the majority of those cock sucking emo pretty boys like Cloud to school. Little Toad would rape Master Chief as Mario shoves a fireball up Sephiroths arse.

Exactly. Most major anime characters from popular shows/games are over rated...most . A few of em are all right though.

Scorpion_Master
Originally posted by Red Superfly
Is that an impression of Master Chief? You've captured his charisma beautifully there. No i dont even like him... i just "..... no expression" to your post laughing

WrathfulDwarf
Overrated: Snake and the entire Metal Gear series....oh! he had sex with EVA...she is soooooo hot...

*cough*

Underrated: Sam Fisher...a man of his age doing some serious spying puts James Bond to shame.

IcePunk
uh...we dont even know how old bond is erm

Scorpion_Master
Yeah he was like born in.. the 30's roll eyes (sarcastic) laughing

Vinny Valentine
Overrated : Mario

Underrated : Vincent Valentine, everyone likes Cloud or Seph erm

Scorpion_Master
Mario What the f**k?

Vinny Valentine
Mario is VERY over rated.

Scorpion_Master
nahh hes in the middle

JToTheP
I don't understand at all how Mario could be overrated, but o.k.a.y.

Vinny Valentine
How So?

Sin Harvest
Because if anything he is the most underrated character because of the fact he is a plumber. Most people just believe he is useless despite all the adventures he has been on defeating Bowser, the Koopalings, Bowser Jr., Wario, and so on and so forth.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Because if anything he is the most underrated character because of the fact he is a plumber. Most people just believe he is useless despite all the adventures he has been on defeating Bowser, the Koopalings, Bowser Jr., Wario, and so on and so forth.

Bullshit.

Hes Over Rated Just because of that, thats why they make so many games about him.

Scorpion_Master
laughing

JToTheP
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Bullshit.

Hes Over Rated Just because of that, thats why they make so many games about him.


Or did you ever play Donkey Kong vs. Jumpman, Super Mario Bros? Apparently not, if you don't realize he DEFINED platform gaming. Every single game expands apon that for your information.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by JToTheP
Or did you ever play Donkey Kong vs. Jumpman, Super Mario Bros? Apparently not, if you don't realize he DEFINED platform gaming. Every single game expands apon that for your information.


Not True.

Even if there was no Mario, game would have still been made the same, he just got more attention.

Sin Harvest
No. Mario saved video games.

JToTheP
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
No. Mario saved video games.

Saved, and defined platform gaming. Vinny is in denile, or is only 12 years old and only has played Ps2 and Gamecube.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by JToTheP
Saved, and defined platform gaming. Vinny is in denile, or is only 12 years old and only has played Ps2 and Gamecube.

I'm 15, And I most likely more about video games then you ever will.

Mario didn't define video games, the games may have been a hit, but so were other games that were just not said because Mario was so good for those times.

Final Fantasy, Megaman, Robo-cop.... a list of many good games. Nitendo would still be were it is at even without Mario, and thats the truth.

BlaxicanTroller
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
I'm 15, And I most likely more about video games then you ever will.

Mario didn't define video games, the games may have been a hit, but so were other games that were just not said because Mario was so good for those times.

Final Fantasy, Megaman, Robo-cop.... a list of many good games. Nitendo would still be were it is at even without Mario, and thats the truth.

uh-huh, sure.


*Lowers his voice to a whisper*

"that's a CRAZY man..."

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
I'm 15, And I most likely more about video games then you ever will.

Mario didn't define video games, the games may have been a hit, but so were other games that were just not said because Mario was so good for those times.

Final Fantasy, Megaman, Robo-cop.... a list of many good games. Nitendo would still be were it is at even without Mario, and thats the truth.

You might want to rethink that. Nintendo would have NEVER made the NES if not for the great profit from Donkey Kong and the Mario Bros. And then video games declined and the Atari gave up console making so Nintendo started to make their own console the NES and they put their entire success on one game: Super Mario Bros; the Best Selling Game of All Times selling over 40 million copies. No other game comes close to beating Super Mario Bros.

Super Mario Bros is without a doubt the (one of them) Greatest Games of All Time. He defined what a video game should be. Before Mario came along their were no stories to the games and most stories were based from their book/movie/show.

All video games today would have never been made without the success of Mario.

Scorpion_Master
yeah i think thats about true big grin

Sin Harvest
People tend to think Mario is weak but in fact he is capable of lifting Bowser by his tail and throwing him around like a rag doll. That takes strength.

Scorpion_Master
he must weight about a Ton or two

JToTheP
He's an overgrown lizard, of course he weighs a ton.

And a 15 year old claiming to play more games then me? Sorry if I don't sit at my PC and play Starcraft, Counter-Strike, and World Of Warcraft all day. I prefer consoles, but play some PC games.

IF you've played more games then I ever have little boy, I think you need to leave the house and learn about life. Also, learning about puberty.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by JToTheP
He's an overgrown lizard, of course he weighs a ton.

And a 15 year old claiming to play more games then me? Sorry if I don't sit at my PC and play Starcraft, Counter-Strike, and World Of Warcraft all day. I prefer consoles, but play some PC games.

IF you've played more games then I ever have little boy, I think you need to leave the house and learn about life. Also, learning about puberty.

I grew up playing video games, and I still am physically fit because I play sports. I have played almost many NES / SNES / N64 games including PS1 PS2 Gamecube, Xbox and Xbox 360. I like console games very much aswell, I even still play my Snes, and I'm pretty sure I know more about those systems then you. Because you think Mario is what built gaming to the way it is today, which is hardly true.

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
I grew up playing video games, and I still am physically fit because I play sports. I have played almost many NES / SNES / N64 games including PS1 PS2 Gamecube, Xbox and Xbox 360. I like console games very much aswell, I even still play my Snes, and I'm pretty sure I know more about those systems then you. Because you think Mario is what built gaming to the way it is today, which is hardly true.

Mario SAVED video games.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Mario SAVED video games.


There was no saving video games, when he came out PS1 was pretty much in the making, maybe it saved Nitendio (Which I highly doubt) but he didn't save video games in general.

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
There was no saving video games, when he came out PS1 was pretty much in the making, maybe it saved Nitendio (Which I highly doubt) but he didn't save video games in general.

So let me get this straight. They started making Playstation 1 back in the 80s. You need a little history. Nintendo was to team up with Sony to make a console with discs but Nintendo decided at the last minute to go back to what it was using and so they made the N64 and because of that Sony made the PS1.

And yes Mario did save video games.

Vinny Valentine
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
So let me get this straight. They started making Playstation 1 back in the 80s. You need a little history. Nintendo was to team up with Sony to make a console with discs but Nintendo decided at the last minute to go back to what it was using and so they made the N64 and because of that Sony made the PS1.

And yes Mario did save video games.


Not the Point, I mean PS1 would still have been made. Mario was just a big time pull in to the nintendo. So was Zelda, but because Mario had more games at the time he was more liked. Thats all that it is. Mario Didn't save video games the least bit.

Sin Harvest
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Not the Point, I mean PS1 would still have been made. Mario was just a big time pull in to the nintendo. So was Zelda, but because Mario had more games at the time he was more liked. Thats all that it is. Mario Didn't save video games the least bit.

Early cartridges were 2KB ROMs for Atari 2600 and 4K for Intellivision. This upper limit grew steadily from 1978 to 1983, up to 16KB for Atari 2600 and Intellivision, 32KB for Colecovision. Bank switching, a technique that allowed two different parts of the program to use the same memory addresses was required for the larger cartridges to work.

In the game consoles, high RAM prices at the time limited the RAM (memory) capacity of the systems to a tiny amount, often less than a Kilobyte. Although the cartridge size limit grew steadily, the RAM limit was part of the console itself and all games had to work within its constraints.

By 1982 a glut of games from new third-party developers less well-prepared than Activision began to appear, and began to overflow the shelf capacity of toy stores.

In part because of these oversupplies, the video game industry crashed, starting from Christmas of 1982 and stretching through all of 1983.

In 1984, the computer gaming market took over from the console market following the crash of that year; computers offered equal gaming ability and since their simple design allowed games to take complete command of the hardware after power-on, they were nearly as simple to start playing with as consoles.

In 1985, the North American video game console market was revived with Nintendo's release of its 8-bit console, the Famicom, known in the United States under the name Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). It was bundled with Super Mario Bros. and suddenly became a success. The NES dominated the North American market until the rise of the next generation of consoles in the early 1990s. Other markets were not as heavily dominated, allowing other consoles to find an audience like the PC Engine in Japan and the Sega Master System in Europe, Australia and Brazil (though it was sold in America as well).

Without Mario video games would have ceased to be.

JToTheP
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Early cartridges were 2KB ROMs for Atari 2600 and 4K for Intellivision. This upper limit grew steadily from 1978 to 1983, up to 16KB for Atari 2600 and Intellivision, 32KB for Colecovision. Bank switching, a technique that allowed two different parts of the program to use the same memory addresses was required for the larger cartridges to work.

In the game consoles, high RAM prices at the time limited the RAM (memory) capacity of the systems to a tiny amount, often less than a Kilobyte. Although the cartridge size limit grew steadily, the RAM limit was part of the console itself and all games had to work within its constraints.

By 1982 a glut of games from new third-party developers less well-prepared than Activision began to appear, and began to overflow the shelf capacity of toy stores.

In part because of these oversupplies, the video game industry crashed, starting from Christmas of 1982 and stretching through all of 1983.

In 1984, the computer gaming market took over from the console market following the crash of that year; computers offered equal gaming ability and since their simple design allowed games to take complete command of the hardware after power-on, they were nearly as simple to start playing with as consoles.

In 1985, the North American video game console market was revived with Nintendo's release of its 8-bit console, the Famicom, known in the United States under the name Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). It was bundled with Super Mario Bros. and suddenly became a success. The NES dominated the North American market until the rise of the next generation of consoles in the early 1990s. Other markets were not as heavily dominated, allowing other consoles to find an audience like the PC Engine in Japan and the Sega Master System in Europe, Australia and Brazil (though it was sold in America as well).

Without Mario video games would have ceased to be.

I think we have a winner.

And Vinny I could careless how fit you are, or how much you know about consoles.

Deit
it's true....mario did save gaming. around the time mario was being created gaming went out of style and than came nintendo with the mario.

MadMel
Originally posted by Sin Harvest
Early cartridges were 2KB ROMs for Atari 2600 and 4K for Intellivision. This upper limit grew steadily from 1978 to 1983, up to 16KB for Atari 2600 and Intellivision, 32KB for Colecovision. Bank switching, a technique that allowed two different parts of the program to use the same memory addresses was required for the larger cartridges to work.

In the game consoles, high RAM prices at the time limited the RAM (memory) capacity of the systems to a tiny amount, often less than a Kilobyte. Although the cartridge size limit grew steadily, the RAM limit was part of the console itself and all games had to work within its constraints.

By 1982 a glut of games from new third-party developers less well-prepared than Activision began to appear, and began to overflow the shelf capacity of toy stores.

In part because of these oversupplies, the video game industry crashed, starting from Christmas of 1982 and stretching through all of 1983.

In 1984, the computer gaming market took over from the console market following the crash of that year; computers offered equal gaming ability and since their simple design allowed games to take complete command of the hardware after power-on, they were nearly as simple to start playing with as consoles.

In 1985, the North American video game console market was revived with Nintendo's release of its 8-bit console, the Famicom, known in the United States under the name Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). It was bundled with Super Mario Bros. and suddenly became a success. The NES dominated the North American market until the rise of the next generation of consoles in the early 1990s. Other markets were not as heavily dominated, allowing other consoles to find an audience like the PC Engine in Japan and the Sega Master System in Europe, Australia and Brazil (though it was sold in America as well).

Without Mario video games would have ceased to be.
that is truth.
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Not the Point, I mean PS1 would still have been made. Mario was just a big time pull in to the nintendo. So was Zelda, but because Mario had more games at the time he was more liked. Thats all that it is. Mario Didn't save video games the least bit. this is not truth....................

Valharu
Well done Sin Harvest. long live the Sega Mega Drive and SNES.

Scorpion_Master
Yeah..

Sin Harvest
5 out of 5 people agree: Mario saved video games

Darth Jello
in regards to the mario debate. Technically Pac-Land was the first game to feature that kind of platforming but it wasn't as popular or well made.

I think Solid Snake is overrated.

In terms of underrated characters, i gotta go with Pit from Kid Icarus, Mike Jones from StarTropics, Zoda from the same series, and The Emperor from Final Fantasy II, especially the Dawn of Souls version. The guy massacred most people on Earth and then managed to conquor Hell and even overthrow God.

Red Superfly
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Not the Point, I mean PS1 would still have been made. Mario was just a big time pull in to the nintendo. So was Zelda, but because Mario had more games at the time he was more liked. Thats all that it is. Mario Didn't save video games the least bit.

Wrong.

The Playstation started out as a CD-based addon for the Super Nintendo. Sony splinterred off, and took that technology, and made their own console.

If Mario didn't help cause the Nintendo boom (which he did, all the most successful games of the Nintendo consoles were Mario games), then the Playstation would never have existed.

This is all based on FACT.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Vinny Valentine
Not the Point, I mean PS1 would still have been made. Mario was just a big time pull in to the nintendo. So was Zelda, but because Mario had more games at the time he was more liked. Thats all that it is. Mario Didn't save video games the least bit.

you just explained how he saved video games eek! cause he was popular more people wanted to play his games cause thats basically what everyone talked about or played and it got people interested into alot of games

=X=
And most people don't play Zelda games. I can go around and name people who can't name the villain and main character of Zelda. Most well say Zelda.

But I bet you everyone knows who Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Peach are.

MadMel
i can name both..and i dont play zelda very much..

SpadeKing
Originally posted by =X=
And most people don't play Zelda games. I can go around and name people who can't name the villain and main character of Zelda. Most well say Zelda.

But I bet you everyone knows who Mario, Luigi, Bowser, and Peach are.

who are they blink

=X=
Originally posted by SpadeKing
who are they blink

people who can't name Zelda characters?

Deit
Originally posted by SpadeKing
who are they blink

The main character is Link, and the villain is Gannon. I'm pretty sure, all the zelda games I've played except 3 had ganon as the villain. and the 3 that didn't have gannon (that I've played.) where the minish cap, and oracle of seasons, and oracle of ages (and oracle of seasons and ages had gannon as a secret boss). other zelda games without gannon are: The wind waker, majoras mask (I think.), and I think that's it. I don't know about twilight princess. I'll have to look it up on a site I found. but yeah, I don't think I know that much people that play zelda games.

ChakraStrings
Mario : Overrated.

Seriously... he's an overweight, short plumber with disgusting facial hair.

Cerberus
Overrated: Master Chief

Underrated: Viewtiful Joe

ESB -1138
Originally posted by ChakraStrings
Mario : Overrated.

Seriously... he's an overweight, short plumber with disgusting facial hair.

Who is strong enough to throw King Bowser Koopa around who must weigh a ton, who has been in almost every sport and was capable of mastering them all, who managed to defeat Koopalings, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Wart, Wario, and many more foes. Who has many different powers such as Fire Flower, Metal Cap, Feather, and now a Blue Turtle Shell. Please if anything no one supports Mario in matches anymore.

MadMel
owned!

Scorpion_Master
laughing

pinkfloydkor
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Who is strong enough to throw King Bowser Koopa around who must weigh a ton, who has been in almost every sport and was capable of mastering them all, who managed to defeat Koopalings, Bowser, Bowser Jr., Wart, Wario, and many more foes. Who has many different powers such as Fire Flower, Metal Cap, Feather, and now a Blue Turtle Shell. Please if anything no one supports Mario in matches anymore.

chair eek! YESS thank you

pinkfloydkor
Im not saying hes an underrated or overrated character, but whatever happened to toad? Sure, hes in every mario game, but think back, the only game he was playable in was super mario bros 2

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Phazon
Overrated: Well i think most Streat fighter Characters is Overrated, Cuz people think they never can loose and they are the same level as Goku...

And i think Dante can be overrated

Underrated: In some case i think Scorpion is underrated, Some Tekken characters and Mario & Luigi

Thats all I can think of.... no expression


ninja Scorpion Underrated? Haha, people don't think he can lose, and they ignore his limitations.

And SF are HORRIBLY underrated, people seem to think they play like they do in the games with all the limitations, the problem is, people don't understand the various amounts of media out there and so much of their powers, (like wiping out mountains and comets), so its pointless arguing with people who think they're scrubs who shoot slow fireballs. And yes I average out their media, I know what I'm talking about.

who?-kid
Overrated game characters:

- Master Chief (no personality whatsoever).

- Paul and Eddy from Tekken. I just dont like them.

- Sephiroth from FF VII. He had cool music surrounding him, and a cool sword, but he was nothing special.

- Tony Hawk / Tiger Woods.

- Crash Bandicoot.

- The Umbrella Corporation (Gosh I wonder who is responsible for those zombies...).

- John Mullins from Soldier of Fortune.

- King Kong from the recent PS2/X-Box games. He had like two or three moves, that's it.

- Spyro (the was a time he was actually pretty cool and funny...)

- Any creature from Black & White.

- That bearded guy from Half-Life what’s his name.

- unknown hero from Shadow of the Colossus (not a bad game though)

- Sonic. He gets on my nerves.

- Lara Croft. Cold as ice.

Quincy Archer
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Overrated: Master Chief by far with his amazing "planet lifting" abilities and can somehow carry all his weapons.

Um correction...Master Chief only carries 2 guns at a time. Haven't you played the game?

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Kratos from God of War, oh no he killed a God but he needed to use Pandora's Box.

Um, Kratos is not overrated. He went through that entire game and slayed everything in his damn way. The fact that he slew the damn hydra is reason enough that he is underrated. Killing Sparda wasn't the only feat Kratos did.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Dante with that Devil Trigger and Spada, all of a sudden he's God.

Is someone just upset because Dante is a popular character? Dante is in no way overrated, he earns every one of his fans.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
DBZ characters and for some reason everyone likes to think they're immortal Gods capable of anything and everything.

Dude. Do NOT say that DBZ characters are overrated. They are some of the strongest characters in the HISTORY of fantasy. Because they are strong does not mean they are "overrated." Almost every DBZ character can take a certain character from another game. Give the damn devils their due.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
Superman...need I say anything here?

What? Wait a minute here...you think Superman is an OVERRATED character? As in you feel that Superman isn't as strong or as good a fighter as everyone thinks?

roll eyes (sarcastic)

I will agree with you ESB that Mario is an underrated character, and single handedly made Video games what they are today. And sorry Vin, Nintendo would be at Ground-Zero if it weren't for the Mario Franchise.

I happen to think that Jak from the Jak trilogy is an underrated character. What with his light powers and dark powers and his firepower. The guy has it all.

(i'll post more later, this really tired me out.)

Tha C-Master
Alot of those characters ARE overrated, they are cool, but people think they are unbeatable and make them too godly sometimes. I like them though.

Overrated could also mean making something cooler than it "really is", but since "cool" is entirely subjective... well.

JToTheP
Yes, I'm sure SUPERHEROES would seem overrated. I don't see how anybody could find Mario to be overrated unless they are in denile and refuse to believe the truth, and Jak sure as hell isn't overrated, his powers are great and they allow you to use them in small portions so you aren't in "God mode."

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Alot of those characters ARE overrated, they are cool, but people think they are unbeatable and make them too godly sometimes. I like them though.

Overrated could also mean making something cooler than it "really is", but since "cool" is entirely subjective... well.

thanks for pointing that out, alot of people weren't getting that


overrated: Fayt Linegod, Naruto, that Luffy bastard from One Piece, the Z Warriors (they're powerful, but lame characters), Inuyasha BY FAR

Master Chief isn't overrated... he's just a cool character that's a victim of a game with an over-hyping fanbase

underrated: Vampire Hunter D, Mario, Zidane (so he's chibi and has a tail, what's yer prob?)

Tha C-Master
lol, I'd have to say MC fanboys are worse than Inuyasha fanboys, but maybe that's just me.

Kayne Archeron
you're probably right.


Inu fanGIRLS, on the other hand.... *shivers*

Emperor Ashtar
Luffy overrated?

Blanka
blanka is under rated

SaTsuJiN
I dunno his roll spams are pretty good

Blax X
*Mutters sephiroth over and over*

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
you're probably right.


Inu fanGIRLS, on the other hand.... *shivers* Never mess with an animegirl... sad

Swe_Bum
wow some one bumped this thread..

Tha C-Master
Wasn't me. stick out tongue

Kayne Archeron
Originally posted by Blax X
*Mutters sephiroth over and over*

says the man with a Naruto theme

Tha C-Master
Yea, Naruto is liked by too many people for some reason...

brainchild81
It's hard to dislike a ninja. Almost impossible.

Overrated: Terry Bogard(sad, but true here @ KMC)*prepares to dodge stones and bottles* , Ash Crimson, Ryo Sakazaki, Sakura
Underrated. Luigi, Kyo, Ken, Tails, King from AOF

Tha C-Master
Ninjas can be overdone though.

Battletoads, Double Dragon, and Ninja Turtles are all underrated...

Remulous
I think nintendo characters are overated and the characters from the Tales series are underated.

Blax X
Originally posted by Kayne Archeron
says the man with a Naruto theme

MEaning..what, exactly? I don't overestimate naruto at all, matter fo fact I dont even consider him in the same tier as other anime characters, I just liek the show. So I have no idea why my having a Naruto signature has any relevancy at all to my comment about Sephiroth.

Kayne Archeron
characters like Sephiroth added a vital part of RPG's: Villains with depth. Naruto, though it has some cool characters, has a pretty boring story wtih too many fillers

brainchild81
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Ninjas can be overdone though.What?! Impossible! *cuts one of his own fingers off to teach TCM a lesson* There's more where that came from buddy!

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Battletoads, Double Dragon, and Ninja Turtles are all underrated... Ditto. I'm feeling light headed.

Lana
Originally posted by brainchild81
It's hard to dislike a ninja. Almost impossible.


Actually, it's very very easy to dislike a ninja.

P-Geyser
Overrated: KYO KUSANAGI, IORI YAGAMI(People just think he owns and the Iori fanboys are horrid)Mai as well.

Underrated: Terry(even though Terry fans praise him here this is JUST ONE SITE)Blue Mary,King, K' Rock Howard.

SaTsuJiN
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea, Naruto is liked by too many people for some reason... the reason is that the lore is extracted from real japanese history... deep lore makes a good story even better

brainchild81
dittoOriginally posted by Lana
Actually, it's very very easy to dislike a ninja. YOU LIE!!!! It's impossible!Originally posted by P-Geyser
Overrated: KYO KUSANAGI, IORI YAGAMI(People just think he owns and the Iori fanboys are horrid)Mai as well.

Underrated: Terry(even though Terry fans praise him here this is JUST ONE SITE)Blue Mary,King, K' Rock Howard. laughing I guess this was for me. I agree about Blue Mary,King, K', Rock Howard & Mai. Mai's alright, but Mary & King would be better to have in the games than her. I took on somebody recently who used Mary well in KOF XI and he pretty much beat the s**t outta me. K' has a certain coolness to him. Rock just kicks a$$ & he's got one of the coolest Supers of all time(NDR) and the 2 of the coolest win poses ever(the angel wings thing & throwing his jacket on your face) Kyo is SNK's 2nd coolest hero design to me. He's got some pretty cool moves & almost all of his costumes look cool except the one from Maximum Impact. Iori just plain hurts people. I'm gonna have to check around & see if Terry's underrated on any other sites.

I like hyperlinks.

P-Geyser
Originally posted by brainchild81
ditto YOU LIE!!!! It's impossible!laughing I guess this was for me. I agree about Blue Mary,King, K', Rock Howard & Mai. Mai's alright, but Mary & King would be better to have in the games than her. I took on somebody recently who used Mary well in KOF XI and he pretty much beat the s**t outta me. K' has a certain coolness to him. Rock just kicks a$$ & he's got one of the coolest Supers of all time(NDR) and the 2 of the coolest win poses ever(the angel wings thing & throwing his jacket on your face) Kyo is SNK's 2nd coolest hero design to me. He's got some pretty cool moves & almost all of his costumes look cool except the one from Maximum Impact. Iori just plain hurts people. I'm gonna have to check around & see if Terry's underrated on any other sites.

I like hyperlinks.

Actually the only part that was meant for you was basically commenting on how people hype Terry on this site. Sure there are people that like Terry on other sites, but Iori takes the cake.

I will just say I agree on Rock and K'

Mary and King blow Mai's ass out of the water. Mai is most definatley SNK'S most overrated female character plus overexposed. I think she is a disgrace to the female ninja and even though I enjoy the Fatal Fury animes, Mai was a disgrace in that. She lost every fight exepct in the motion picture and that was because she hit Panni while she was not looking.

I would have loved for King and Mary to be in Maximum Impact 2...but sadly that did not happen.

brainchild81
I love tatas and I love ninjas, but I am getting of seeing Mai and not SNK's other females. You read my PM about the sig yet?

P-Geyser
Originally posted by brainchild81
You read my PM about the sig yet?

Yeah I will talk to swe when i get the time.

Swe_Bum
Huu? you talking 'bout me?

Tonnochi
Overrated: Master-Cheif (Why is Halo so good? It's just average)

Underrated: JC Denton

brainchild81
Iori Yagami is underrated here big time.

Tha C-Master
Originally posted by brainchild81
What?! Impossible! *cuts one of his own fingers off to teach TCM a lesson* There's more where that came from buddy!

Ditto. I'm feeling light headed. Trust me, I'm all for ninja's, just that everyone and their mom is a ninja. I've been finding love in other tales myself.

Blue Dragon
Underrated = Kirby. How can you not like Kirby? ^.^
Overrated = Mario. I do like Mario but I think he's overrated. He's more popular than Link. pissed NO WAY!
Underatted = Link (when it comes to Mario...)

Swe_Bum
Originally posted by Blue Dragon
Overrated = Mario. I do like Mario but I think he's overrated. He's more popular than Link. pissed NO WAY!
Underatted = Link (when it comes to Mario...) I would say Vice Verse, Mario is kinda underrated (when it comes to me)
And Link Overrated as hell

Kaled
Overrated:
Gen
Scorpion
Bison

Underrated:
Mewtwo - the pokemon can't kill nonesense
Safer Sephiroth - Dismissed too easily
Cloud - Ever since he was in KH he's the "guy that got thrashed by some kid"
Link - usually just not enough credit due to him
Daleks - ...... come on! very few creatures/characters ever could beat a single dalek, but this is mostly for the people i know in real life

Blue Dragon
Daleks? In games? Don't think so...even though they are awsome! yes Link is underated so much, but probably after Twilight Princess, things will pick up.

TricksterPriest
First off, to kayne Acheron, a page or two a go. Sephiroth, a villain with depth? laughing laughing out loud Hahahahahahah! Heh heh heh, good one. Sephiroth..., depth..., hahahahahahahahah! Oh that was funny as hell.

Next, P-Geyser. Word up on Terry my brother. He is seriously underrated.
And yeah, Yagami and Kyo are way overrated. Kyo worse than Iori. Iori's overrated, but that's nothing compared to Kyo. Kyo gets the credit for: Rugal, Omega Rugal, Goenitz, Orochi, taking out NESTS including Igniz, and winning the KOF tournament every year. That's overrated. Beating Rugal was part luck and part team effort. Omega Rugal more so, especially cause the ****er self-destructed. Goenitz, credit to Iori, Chizuru, and Goenitz underestimating them. Orochi......ok maybe that one. But credit to Iori and Chizuru as well. More so to Iori. NESTS, hell no. Igniz was way overpowered, and K' was the hero of that story. Luckily, nobody can take credit for Mukai because the S.O.B. teleported out.

Brain. Yes, Mary and King are way cooler than Mai. I'd like to see Kasumi Todo and Bonne Jenet in the spotlight. Regrettably, I haven't played as K'. His design is sick and his moves seem good. Rock on the other hand, one of my best characters. I love the look on people's faces when you crack counter their moves. That, and rising tackling a guy out of a hurricane kick. Yes, Brain, believe us. Yagami is overrated here too. Not as bad as other places, but he is overrated.

Blue_Dragon. Are you high? How is Mario overrated? Did you even read the other pages? That plumber singlehandedly saved gaming. For that alone, he would well known, but his games are STILL good. Even today, Super Mario Bros. 2,3 and others are considered classic gaming. Link is overrated in that people think he's invincible. He is underrated as a character. Personality wise, he stinks. But he's astonishingly fun to play as.

Kaled. For saying Bison is overrated, you deserve to get psycho-crushered. roll eyes (sarcastic) Gen is a very good character, and you claimed the same thing in my Gen vs. Gouki thread. Scorpion on the other hand, good character, but some of the claims on his behalf are way overblown. Overrated at times, I'll say that much.

Mewtwo. Ok, I'll give you that one. Massively powerful and yep, he can kill.
Safer Sephiroth..........no. No way. I'd call him maybe one of the most overrated characters in the history of gaming.
Cloud...... not even a question. He's good, but very overrated. Too many people say Sephiroth is the only guy who can beat him.
Link.... true that. Link is a sav.
Daleks..... confused When did a dalek get in a game? They are powerful, but again, not unbeatable. Too overpowered for most games anyway. beer





And finally, my list.

Overrated: Sephiroth (All incarnations). I can't even begin to describe how much I hate this guy. Jin Kazama. Ashtar hated this guy, and I'm starting to agree. NO ****ING WAY HE CAN BEAT HEIHACHI AND KAZUYA IN A FAIR FIGHT! THAT's overrated. Athena Asamiya. Good character, baaaaaad personality and voice. Also overrated. Yes, she's powerful as the original Athena, but that's uncanon. Half the Kyokugen school, I happen to like Older Ryo, Mr. Karate, Robert, and Marco. The rest, especially Takuma, are crap. Ansatsuken copycats. Kyo Kusanagi, well, you know why. I spelled that out earlier. Ryu (SF). The guy is cool but he's the most overrated character in SF. Gill. Can't stand the ****er. I don't give a shit if he thinks he's god, he's not top tier.


Underrated: Terry. *high fives P-Geyser* Rugal. People love to crap on Rugal. "Oh look, Kyo beat him easily." Rugal is 5x the character Kyo is. SNK boss syndrome aside, Rugal is still the best boss SNK ever came up. Ash Crimson. Gayness aside, he's one of the better villains. If they toned him down abit, and made him a little more subtle, he'd be much better. Viewtiful Joe. The dude is.....Viewtiful. smokin' the entire ZOE series. Best mecha series ever, and mother****ers come onto boards and claim Gundams could beat them. ****ING GUNDAMS! An orbital Frame generates power in the terawatts, a few hundred or so. That's a million or so times the power of a gundam. Bomberman. thumb up I love that little guy. Kefka. the most underrated villain in FF history, is still one of the best of all time, maybe the best in FF. Grahf, from Xenogears. Spectacular villain, so powerful, he beats down mechs barehanded. Awesome theme music. Dante. Cool as ****, but people downplay him alot.

J-Beowulf
Master Chief pretty much owns everyone.

If anyone can name one person who can beat him, I'll give you a great big chocolate chip E-cookie.

TricksterPriest
Get a big bag of cookies. Orochi, God Rugal, Shin Gouki, Anubis from ZOE, Jehuty from ZOE, Dante, Sonic the hedgehog, Kefka, Viewtiful joe, Grahf, Mewtwo, Id from Xenogears, and a host of others.

MadMel
Originally posted by Blue Dragon
Underrated = Kirby. How can you not like Kirby? ^.^
agreed...kirby+metaknight rock! rock
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Master Chief pretty much owns everyone.

If anyone can name one person who can beat him, I'll give you a great big chocolate chip E-cookie.
kain, raziel, and arthus for starters..

TricksterPriest
True that. Maybe not pally Arthas, but D-knight could.

MadMel
i actually meant lichking/arthus, just to add insult to injury stick out tongue..
wheres my E-cookie??

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by MadMel


kain, raziel, and arthus for starters..

Lies and slander!

MadMel
gimme my cookie no expression..

TricksterPriest
Beowulf, you can dispute Arthas. But if you think Kain and Raziel can't beat MC, you're insane. Both of them are unkillable.


Edit: Lich King Arthas? No chance for MC. dude is almost a god.

Blax X
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Master Chief pretty much owns everyone.

If anyone can name one person who can beat him, I'll give you a great big chocolate chip E-cookie.


fanboy alert.

List of people who would TOOL MC:

90% of the FF heroes and super villains

Samus

Duke Nukem

ANY Star Wars character who ca use the force, hell, I'd go so far as to say Rotj Luke.

Kayne

Prince from PoP

Fenix from SC.

Kerrigan from SC.

Lich King

Thats just the video game list, and there's alot more then what I listed.

Non-Video game...

Almost any major anime hero/villain.

Master Chief is easily beatable by anyone with supernatural abilities, almost anyone.

J-Beowulf
It was a semi-joke, I really need to learn to use some more smilies in my posts.

TricksterPriest
You probably should have. smart Don't sweat it though.

Blax X
I still love you.

And I love that story

Kaled
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Kaled. For saying Bison is overrated, you deserve to get psycho-crushered. roll eyes (sarcastic) Gen is a very good character, and you claimed the same thing in my Gen vs. Gouki thread. Scorpion on the other hand, good character, but some of the claims on his behalf are way overblown. Overrated at times, I'll say that much.

Mewtwo. Ok, I'll give you that one. Massively powerful and yep, he can kill.
Safer Sephiroth..........no. No way. I'd call him maybe one of the most overrated characters in the history of gaming.
Cloud...... not even a question. He's good, but very overrated. Too many people say Sephiroth is the only guy who can beat him.
Link.... true that. Link is a sav.
Daleks..... confused When did a dalek get in a game? They are powerful, but again, not unbeatable. Too overpowered for most games anyway. beer

Bison is most defonatly overrated, the worst example i can give you is Bison s Mewtwo, that just pathetic thinking Bison would win.

Gen, overrated almost as badly as.... umm something very highl overrated

Scorpion is just overrated a lil bit, for example i can't see how he might beat cloud

Safer Sephiroth, hmm after reflecting on some arguements i've come to the conclusion that he is a character that can only crush or be crushed, i can't think of a close match. Althought people hate of him means they put him up against character that simple wouldn't win as say otherwise *Cough Link vs seph* What the f**k?

Cloud is the only guy that could kill sephiroth on FF7 but he is overrated, even as a fanboy i say that, still he is coolio

Link, need anything be said??

Mewtwo, underrated in my opnion, for whatever it might count for

Ryu, yeah i do think he's overrated

Sora, slightly underrated

Tidus, unerestimated, but after the Tidus vs Gouki thread he's been put to shame

Tifa, underrated, most people she's fought in the VS forum means she's well out of her league, but she is underrated

Standard Seph, yeah overrated, but he could be used for some interesting matches, if only people would stop putting him against people that generally speaking don't die

Tha C-Master
Bison not so overrated. Valid points were made in Bison vs Mewtwo, Mewtwo was being overraed in defense of those underrating them.

Can someone explain how Ryu is being overrated consistently, and not by just one member? Because I can name franchises people wish to put up against them that they constantly overrate to give a chance.


I know that some SF characters are overrated, but I don't see Ryu as one of them too often, maybe I'm missing something.

MadMel
after posting in the vergil vs. akuma thread, im saying that vergil is vastly underated..

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Blax X
I still love you.

And I love that story

Yaaaay!

lord xyz
Most Overrated Character = Cloud strife

JacopeX
Underated- Liu Kang

PERIOD! I can explain this by saying that now days he was seen compared to others as a joke, to me he is one of the best fighters in the MK series.

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