Ultimates 2 #11

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grey fox
Anyone have scan's , It looks pretty damn decent.

inamilist
ask = recieve

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grey fox
Originally posted by inamilist
ask = recieve

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Sweet....

King KAM
Originally posted by grey fox
Sweet.... SILENCE YOU WHELP!!!!

sorry....been readin alot of conan.

ankur29
when do the next batch come ?that is if it is out if not when will it be?

another question when did tehy catch the thing spidey collosus and perhaps wolverine?

Scoobless
It all happened off panel

ankur29
thats dumb thig cab kick all loki's ppl butts to hong kong he si s2nd strongest just below hulk he is stronger than thor!!!!!

wens teh next issue out

Scoobless
Originally posted by ankur29
thats dumb thig cab kick all loki's ppl butts to hong kong he si s2nd strongest just below hulk he is stronger than thor!!!!!

wens teh next issue out

It's not about strength, it's about planning, weapons and tactics

All you have to do to get the Thing into cuffs is threaten someone else's life

Stronger than Thor?

Prove it!

inamilist
Ultimates Vol 2 #12 is due out August 2nd 2006

The heroes captured by the invading villians happened off panel and it is setting up for them to all be featured in the final book of the series. It is unlikely that this will have any impact at all on the other books of the ultimate universe.

There is no information available yet about Vol 3 (so far as i can find)

edit: oops, i lied, ultimates 3 is being written by Jeph Loeb and drawn by Joe Madureira

http://www.joemadfan.com/gallery/p17_sectionid/22

It also looks like Loeb will stay around for Vol 4 with Ed McGuinness for art.

We will probably all get to see just how strong Thor REALLY is in #12 as marvel has promised on the promotion of the issue lots of Thor.

willRules
I bought it yesterday. Great issuesmile

Rewmac
Gotta agree with will again. It's a good issue, I can't wait until the conclusion big grin

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by inamilist
Ultimates Vol 2 #12 is due out August 2nd 2006

The heroes captured by the invading villians happened off panel and it is setting up for them to all be featured in the final book of the series. It is unlikely that this will have any impact at all on the other books of the ultimate universe.

There is no information available yet about Vol 3 (so far as i can find)

edit: oops, i lied, ultimates 3 is being written by Jeph Loeb and drawn by Joe Madureira

http://www.joemadfan.com/gallery/p17_sectionid/22

It also looks like Loeb will stay around for Vol 4 with Ed McGuinness for art.

We will probably all get to see just how strong Thor REALLY is in #12 as marvel has promised on the promotion of the issue lots of Thor. Madureira is brilliant, but...Ed McGuinnes...with....Ultimates?

sick

Draco69
August 2nd, my ass. More like October 13th.

And Loeb will ruin the book. Mark my words.

Ed McGuinnes has no place on Ultimates. He's a DC artist through and through. His animated "JLU" style would be out of place...

inamilist
the info on Vol 4 comes from wiki, so take it or leave it, though im fairly sure the vol 3 info is reliable

DarkCrawler
Originally posted by Draco69

And Loeb will ruin the book. Mark my words.


Sadly, thats probably true. sad

grey fox
Wait...is Ed McGuinnes the one who does this artwork ?

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/characters/bizarro.jpg

If so then i'm not reading ultimates anymore....

ankur29
Originally posted by Scoobless
It's not about strength, it's about planning, weapons and tactics

All you have to do to get the Thing into cuffs is threaten someone else's life

Stronger than Thor?

Prove it!

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg

almost everywhere they say thing is the second sttrongest in teh ultimate universe right after hulk i believ it is also mentioned in wikipedia

if you have scans form teh ultimate marvel handbook of thing hulk nad thor pls post

inamilist
7's

Hulk
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9734/hulk3ll.th.jpg

Natural 6's

Thing
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3918/thing2de.th.jpg

Colossus
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6625/colossus2dx.th.jpg

Amped to 6's

Iron Man
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1849/ironman8df.th.jpg

Black Widow
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3337/blackwidow8nq.th.jpg

Captain Britian
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/6277/captainbritain9jl.th.jpg

Thor
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/733/thor0zd.th.jpg


However, I beleive marvel is going to use Ultimates vol 2 #12 to clarify certain things about Thor, like weather or not he possesses any powers or simply enhanced through his belt.

As far as the Wizard thing goes, it is probably fairly accurate, Hulk does get a really impressive feat at the end of Ultimates 11 that i think might put him in another catagory entirely from the rest of these chumps. there is also that huge grey adaptoid whatchamacallit in X men and Fantastic Four, but thing makes quick work of it. really, they should have some of their top brawlers have it out, it'd be great smile

ankur29
Originally posted by inamilist
7's

Hulk
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9734/hulk3ll.th.jpg

Natural 6's

Thing
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3918/thing2de.th.jpg

Colossus
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6625/colossus2dx.th.jpg

Amped to 6's

Iron Man
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1849/ironman8df.th.jpg

Black Widow
http://img428.imageshack.us/img428/3337/blackwidow8nq.th.jpg

Captain Britian
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/6277/captainbritain9jl.th.jpg

Thor
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/733/thor0zd.th.jpg


However, I beleive marvel is going to use Ultimates vol 2 #12 to clarify certain things about Thor, like weather or not he possesses any powers or simply enhanced through his belt.

As far as the Wizard thing goes, it is probably fairly accurate, Hulk does get a really impressive feat at the end of Ultimates 11 that i think might put him in another catagory entirely from the rest of these chumps. there is also that huge grey adaptoid whatchamacallit in X men and Fantastic Four, but thing makes quick work of it. really, they should have some of their top brawlers have it out, it'd be great smile

dude ur teh graetest pls post spidey and wolverine n cap i need 2 know thier strength levels

Blair Wind
hey does anyone remember the thread that had the issue before this one? I know SOMEONE scanned it, but I cant remember the thread erm

inamilist
Wolverine
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3792/wolvie2hf.th.jpg

Captain America
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Spider-Man
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And before you all start begging for it:
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2817/manthing1eq.th.jpg

Validus
Originally posted by Draco69
Ed McGuinnes has no place on Ultimates. He's a DC artist through and through. His animated "JLU" style would be out of place...
I agree. I love his style, especially in the Public Enemies Superman/Batman arc, but I can't see him doing Marvel characters.

ankur29
yo inamilist excellent work dude.....
a few more small minor requests ....teh page where te power grid key is specified something that suggest how strong someone under class 4 is such as spidey
what classs 3 speed is etc

also venom's bio and juggernaut if possible

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by Validus
I agree. I love his style, especially in the Public Enemies Superman/Batman arc, but I can't see him doing Marvel characters. I'm actually really looking forward to seeing him on Marvel characters. I just don't think Ultimates is the place for him.

I think seeing Mcguiness do a 616 Avengers book would be great though. I've liked pretty much all of the marvel stuff i've seen from him.

grey fox
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
I'm actually really looking forward to seeing him on Marvel characters. I just don't think Ultimates is the place for him.

I think seeing Mcguiness do a 616 Avengers book would be great though. I've liked pretty much all of the marvel stuff i've seen from him.

I have to agree , Mguinnes (while good on Superman and Supes/bat's) shouldn't be let anywhere near The Ultimates , it's scratchy realistic style is what people really like. He could possibly work on a few issues of NA and then work his way up ?

H. S. 6
Originally posted by grey fox
I have to agree , Mguinnes (while good on Superman and Supes/bat's) shouldn't be let anywhere near The Ultimates , it's scratchy realistic style is what people really like. He could possibly work on a few issues of NA and then work his way up ?

I like that idea.

inamilist
Venom
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7717/venom7ax.th.jpg

Stats page
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/7263/stats0ef.th.jpg

Currently, there is no entry for Juggernaut in the Ultimate U sad sorry to dissapoint

Grimm22
Originally posted by inamilist


Hulk
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9734/hulk3ll.th.jpg


Thing
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3918/thing2de.th.jpg

Colossus
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6625/colossus2dx.th.jpg


Iron Man
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/1849/ironman8df.th.jpg

Captain Britian
http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/6277/captainbritain9jl.th.jpg

Thor
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/733/thor0zd.th.jpg



Eh, I dont think that Thor, Cap. Brittan or Iron Man should be in the class 6 strength range, considering that they arent nearly as strong as Colossus or Thing.

Hulk deserves his own class, which is accuratte

inamilist
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9334/tohotumutuxm2005page227ai.th.jpg

this one got me

I'd think Pym would be a little higher, frankly, i thought it might be a 6

I think there are several levels for each rating, like, just because someone ends up at a 6 doesnt mean they are as strong as any other 6s

As far as this Thor vs Thing debate, Thing is a strength based character, so it makes sense that he would have much more strength feats. We will just have to wait for Thor to lift something

Lucid Lui
Originally posted by Grimm22
Eh, I dont think that Thor, Cap. Brittan or Iron Man should be in the class 6 strength range, considering that they arent nearly as strong as Colossus or Thing. Why not? They really barely have any strength feats between them, but that doesn't mean they aren't strong. Maybe Class 6 is what they're intended to be.

ankur29
a few questons...
specifically how strong is ultimate spidey in the 616 universe he is stronger than cap and wolverine, but are they stronger to him in teh ultimate universe? ( i do not beleive the strength rating in teh wizard chart i provided )
is giant man or equal to them or maybe even less?

hus fatser ultimate wolverine or spidey? if so why are they in the same class 3?

why is collous and thing in class 6 for strength which is 75 - 100tons it says in teh collousus bio he is capable of lifting thousansds of tons with great effort if so he should be in the class 7 level for strength

and why is hulks durability so low in teh ultimate universe ...a 6...hes one of teh most durable people alive hes a 7 in 616, coulds this be why he got a beating from cap america?

willRules
Originally posted by ankur29
a few questons...
specifically how strong is ultimate spidey in the 616 universe he is stronger than cap and wolverine, but are they stronger to him in teh ultimate universe? ( i do not beleive the strength rating in teh wizard chart i provided )

Ultimate spidey is supposed to be considerably weaker than his 616 counterpart but that's cos he is still growing where 616 is now pretty much at his prime.

Ultimate spidey is definitely stronger than Logan and my guess he is a little bit stronger than Ultimate Cap because in the ultimate six storyline spidey got into an arm lock with Cap and Cap appeared to be struggling more IMO.

Originally posted by ankur29
hus fatser ultimate wolverine or spidey? if so why are they in the same class 3?

I'm 99.9999999% certain Ultimate spidey is faster than Logan. Most ultimate Characters with a couple of exceptions like (cap or Hulk) follow a similar hierarchy to their 616 counterparts, so Spidey is physically superior to wolverine still yes (IMO)

Originally posted by ankur29
why is collous and thing in class 6 for strength which is 75 - 100tons it says in teh collousus bio he is capable of lifting thousansds of tons with great effort if so he should be in the class 7 level for strength

I find it's best to not always stick to the guides and don't always rely on comic feats without the guides, but take both with a pinch of salt. Characters are constantly over hyped and underrated with the flow of story lines.

Originally posted by ankur29
and why is hulks durability so low in teh ultimate universe ...a 6...hes one of teh most durable people alive hes a 7 in 616, coulds this be why he got a beating from cap america?

The ultimate universe attempts to be slightly more realistic and this means downplaying characters a lot of the time. And if you are referring to the incident in vol 1 ish 5, Cap stunned Hulk through fighting skills. Hulk may be waaayyy stronger but Cap outclasses him in skill by far smile

ankur29
when is the next issue of ultimates coming out?

willRules
End of this month according to www.marvel.com

Juntai
Originally posted by willRules
End of this month according to www.marvel.com which means December

willRules
Probably sad

Validus
Originally posted by Juntai
which means December
laughing out loud

ankur29
is hulk gonna fight abomination ?who is stronger? (is that green lizard thing abomination?) i heard all the ultimate heroes ever are involed!!!

Scoobless
Originally posted by ankur29
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg

almost everywhere they say thing is the second sttrongest in teh ultimate universe right after hulk i believ it is also mentioned in wikipedia

That chart is the biggest load of crap I'v seen since i once saw a 6 foot high load of crap (Jurrasic Park 3 i believe)

If those strength level were correct then Hulk would still be trapped under Captain America's tank from Ultimates Vol 1 issue #5

manjaro
in the name of jesus H christ. did i just see thing and colossus being led off in handcuffS messed

manjaro
Originally posted by Scoobless
That chart is the biggest load of crap I'v seen since i once saw a 6 foot high load of crap (Jurrasic Park 3 i believe)

If those strength level were correct then Hulk would still be trapped under Captain America's tank from Ultimates Vol 1 issue #5

i think wizard meant for those to be interpreted proportiantly to each other not thier actual strentgh levels

Longinus
I hate ultimates to me it kind of ruined the characters for me, Thor weaker than Thing, colossus and hulk. In the 616 universe thing and colossus are like low level strong people. I refuse to like the Ultimates mad

Scoobless
Originally posted by manjaro
i think wizard meant for those to be interpreted proportiantly to each other not thier actual strentgh levels

I don't think so.... going from left to right it starts with Cap Marv and states "Can lift"... after that they just put the weight value for everyone..... the list is just BS

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg

grey fox
Originally posted by Scoobless
I don't think so.... going from left to right it starts with Cap Marv and states "Can lift"... after that they just put the weight value for everyone..... the list is just BS

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg

thumb up

Grimm22
Originally posted by Scoobless
I don't think so.... going from left to right it starts with Cap Marv and states "Can lift"... after that they just put the weight value for everyone..... the list is just BS

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg

Eh erm

The lineup is still accurate big grin

manjaro
Originally posted by Scoobless
I don't think so.... going from left to right it starts with Cap Marv and states "Can lift"... after that they just put the weight value for everyone..... the list is just BS

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/6799/wizard1600440458xy.jpg well i guess im gonna have to take that back then cuz with every single one of those Ultimate characters very first appearances, they all displayed feats that outstrip whats shown there....Iron man with the giant skrull ship thing, hulk doing his reg. thing. Thing taking out that giant underground monster with two punches. Thor convincingly holding his own with the hulk after he was after betty to rape her, and even spidey ive seen tossing around SUVs with just a single strand of web. oh and Marvel flying thru super dense space hulls. so yeah that chart is indeed bullshit

ankur29
Originally posted by manjaro
well i guess im gonna have to take that back then cuz with every single one of those Ultimate characters very first appearances, they all displayed feats that outstrip whats shown there....Iron man with the giant skrull ship thing, hulk doing his reg. thing. Thing taking out that giant underground monster with two punches. Thor convincingly holding his own with the hulk after he was after betty to rape her, and even spidey ive seen tossing around SUVs with just a single strand of web. oh and Marvel flying thru super dense space hulls. so yeah that chart is indeed bullshit


when did spidey do that with the suvs??pls post this on teh respeck spiderman

Nataku8188
Originally posted by Draco69
Ed McGuinnes has no place on Ultimates. He's a DC artist through and through. His animated "JLU" style would be out of place...

I loved his run on Deadpool, if he does it like that, should be fine.

willRules
The pics he drew of Ultimate Cap look pretty cool. yes

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