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Who wins?

Plastic Man turns into a toilet and flushes Apocalypse....

I say that in every plasticman vs thread. It has nothing to do with the fight but still it is a fact.

Plasticman looks stupid.

Apocalypse captures him and turns him into the Silly Putty Of Death.

Probably a stalemate. I can't see either one really killing the other.

That's just it though. Pretty much nothing can kill PM. You can get temporary wins via freezing or somesuch, but punches do nothing, and even a lot of high-level energy manip has been shown to do very little. And even breaking him into pieces won't solve it. He retains basic consciousness and can reform.

That, and I abhor "he'd figure something out" arguments. Tell me what he'd figure out exactly and how he'd do it and I'll believe that argument.

Apoc might still be vulnerable to a through-bodily-passages mind-attack from PM though. So I'd say they both have a decent chance of doing something to the other, but my earlier assessment of stalemate most of the time stands.

Plasticman stretches to the moon and puts Apoc there to cool off.

After patting him on the head and making an amusing comment.

Originally posted by Private Pion
Plasticman stretches to the moon and puts Apoc there to cool off.

After patting him on the head and making an amusing comment.

Clever, but he'd freeze in space and wouldn't make it to the moon. It wouldn't kill him, and he would probably get Apoc high enough to deprive him from oxygen (maybe), but it's not a bullet-proof strategy.

And PM has shown himself to be resistent to energy at least on par with anything Apoc. can produce. He's a charter member of the JLA for a reason....not just comic relief.

Like I said, stalemate.

Plasticman turns into a table........

Originally posted by Skeets
Plasticman turns into a table........

Plastic Man can't splinter like a real wood table so that strategy sucks.

Originally posted by Validus
Plastic Man can't splinter like a real wood table so that strategy sucks.
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But the problem is that Apocalypse has never fully unleashed a full blast from my knowledge and that this is powered by Celestial technology and energy and can be reconfigured at his whim. He also can give himself any superhuman physical trait that he wants be it from super strength to super speed.

Originally posted by ThePittman
He also can give himself any superhuman physical trait that he wants be it from super strength to super speed. Since when?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Since when? In many different bio's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_%28comics%29
http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/a/apocalypse.htm
http://marvel.com/universe/Apocalypse_%28En_Sabah_Nur%29

um... this is hard, i can see plastic man suffocating apoc, maybe. and i can see apoc getting really big and attempting to hurt plastic man to no avail. i can also see a blue costumed ancient jobber that is ready to lose this fight. plastic man wins in my opinion. even though i told myself that it couldn't be, i cant thinnk of anything on apoc's behalf that would make him the victor.

Originally posted by A.J
good debating repsond to this one digi

I kind of already did. He outlined how Apoc could negate PM's attacks. I agree with him....it would be tough for PM to hurt him. I also shot down how PM would negate pretty much anything Apoc does. And the psi-attacks he mentioned aren't a factor. PM is immune to telepathy. This is a stalemate at least 8/10.

Toilet..Toilet..Toilet


TOILET !!!!

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Clever, but he'd freeze in space and wouldn't make it to the moon. It wouldn't kill him, and he would probably get Apoc high enough to deprive him from oxygen (maybe), but it's not a bullet-proof strategy.

And PM has shown himself to be resistent to energy at least on par with anything Apoc. can produce. He's a charter member of the JLA for a reason....not just comic relief.

Like I said, stalemate.

Plasticman goes into space all the time. Hell, he can speak in space, he wouldn't freeze.

Originally posted by Private Pion
Plasticman goes into space all the time. Hell, he can speak in space, he wouldn't freeze. How and the hell does he speak in space, there is no air to create sound.dohnono

And he has frozen in place in the Antarctic in the past. Space is much colder.

Inconsistent writing galore. PM is great for that, because few writers take him (or his canon) seriously.

So I guess it's who is on the pen.