Originally posted by Devil Lance
except Martian Manhunter isn't weak to heat anymore he's invulnerable to it now so your point doesn't mattter.
also if your actually rea dmy post completely that was mm before he lost his fear of frire.
even if he was vunnerable to fire he could always just do this.
http://img417.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00236ny.jpg
but since he isn't vunerable to fire your point is mute
now in my opinion regular Hyperion isn't superman/glads level first off in the scans I showed Glads defated Hyperion pretty easilly.
secondly I beleive in an Avenger issue during Kurt Busieks run on the title Wonder Man summoned by Scralet witch from the dead was enough to take on Hyperion.
First off all he could turn intangible and not be hit by Hyperion's Flash Vision. But what would stop Hyperion from grabbing him while he's intangible and rip his head off? He pulled Kitty behind him when she was intangible. See:
http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=exilesv103816rougher8kn.jpg
Who's to say Hyperion couldn't do the same to MM only thing using his fists? Also who's to say Hyperion is not in the same league as Glads and Supes? You posted scans of Gladiator battling the SQUADRON SUPREME VERSION HYPERION, not the exiles version. My memory seems to be fuzzy, but I remember Hyperion owning Wonder Man. Easily. Knocking him through a planet/asteroid, then putting Wonder Man through the sun. Let me refresh your memory:
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion13uf0la.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion31li3fj.jpg
http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hyperion49jc4zc.jpg
Try to get the facts straight DL.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
and Wonder Man < Superman
Your right. Let me add to that for you.
Superman = Gladiator = Hyperion > Wonder Man
Add the fact King Hyperion is wearing Quantum Armor and is wielding a Quantum Sword and Shield. Giving a Superman level character added durability and powerful offensive weapons isn't good for your team.
Originally posted by Devil Lance
so in my opinion Glads is very close to King Hyperion.
and again if you look at my last post MM or Glads won't be dealing with Hyperion .
He'd be facing orion he has shown to be better than Superman on many occassions
Orion stalemated a sun dipped Superman who took out the JLA and broke throgh GL's (Kyle) constructs.
and once Orion defeated a monster that superman could withstand as shown in these scans.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-13.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods10-15.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-05.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-06.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/NewGods11-10.jpg
and heres Orion injuring a beast that the entire JLA couldn't find a way to harm.
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02308.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02312.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02313.jpg
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/JLA02314.jpg
Your right about Glads being close to King Hyperion's powers. But Hyperion is wielding Quantum weapons and is sporting a powerful Quantum Armor. The Quantum sword will give Hyperion a nice reach advantage. The Quantum shield will be used as a deflection tool against the many energy blasts that will be coming from Orion or Gladiator's heat vision.
Those first set of scans, the one that shows Orion fighting that giant monster. It looks to me like it took both of them to beat that monster. What's that supposed to prove?
That second set of scans. The one Orion blasts that big sea monster. What happened after that. It looked like Orion was on the receiving end of an energy blast there. Out of the JLA that were there, that tried to hurt that monster, was Superman there? I'm only asking because if Superman wasn't there, then how could you say that the entire JLA was there. Is Superman was there, and actually tried to hurt that monster, then more power to you. If he wasn't there, what's to say a Superman level character couldn't do the same thing.
King Hyperion is a monster. Just ask Mimic here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/ExilesvsKingHype5.jpg
Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now Oripon can do one of two things blast Quasar with the astor force an dhope it hits him or magnetically hold him in place by using the metal in Quasars bands .
as he did to this metal creature
http://img19.photobucket.com/albums.../Orion09p16.jpg
I'm sorry... That's pretty funny. Magnetically holding Quasar in place...
Man what are you smoking. Quasar is the Master of Electromagnetic energy. He's like a super Magneto of sorts. Only thing his energy absorption powers are incredible. Even greater than Surfer's.
See:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3265qp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3291nq.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/maximumsecurity3352jq.jpg
That's Quasar Absorbing the Ego Spores when Surfer failed to do so.
Orion's energy blast is similar to the power cosmic or cosmic energy. Any and all blasts will be absorbed and directed back towards Orion. Just like he did to Surfer here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/quasar050375su.jpg
And to Kismet(Warlock genetic twin sister with the same powers as Him) here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/vskismet2.jpg
Also if you notice in those scans with Kismet, Quasar also mentions that the Q-bands sensed her incoming energy blasts. Orion's energy blasts will be no different. Quasar will sense those coming in and use his own energy blasts to take Orion out.
Here's another strategy. A case of BFR but via Quasar's powers. Should be legal. will work against either Glads or MM. Whichever character feels like spending the rest of their days in the Quantum zone. Again double bubble theory. One quick instant bubble to immobilize either opponent, then Quasar can take a second or two to concentrate on forming a stronger bubble. Go back to my other posts for reference on how strong his bubbles are. Now neatly encased into his Quantum bubbles, he flys out of earth's atmosphere dragging along his neatly wrapped foe, to avoid the devastating side effects of using his teleportation powers within earth's atmosphere, and teleports either character into the Quantum Zone for them to spend the rest of their lives out in isolation. Just like his foe here:
http://img130.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img130&image=vspresence1.jpg
http://img106.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img106&image=vspresence2.jpg
Really if this battle becomes a handicapped match, I'll still be fine.
Quasar taking energy blasts from the Jack of Hearts which was completely ineffective against Quasar.
http://img66.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img66&image=vsjack.jpg
Here's Quasar multitasking and holding his own against the Phoenix Rachel Summers and Mordred the Mystic. Mordred is powerful enough to give Dr. Strange a run for his money.
http://img121.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img121&image=vsphoenix1.jpg
http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=vsphoenix2.jpg
http://img131.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img131&image=vsphoenix3.jpg
If Quasar could redirect Rachel Summers powerful psionic energy, I don't see why Quasar couldn't multitask and do the same against Orion and MM.
Man... Even handicapped you guys are still gonna get owned.