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Who wins ?

Revan and Sadow.

Sadow could pwn exar kun when it come's to swordsmanship, and (even thought it'd be a cool battle) revan would come up on top against Ulic. Even switched sadow would double-you-tee-eff own ulic, and reven would fend off exar kun long enough for shadow to come in and destroy exar.

Sadow is > then all in this match and Ulic < all.
Exar and Reven are probably almost equals with only about 40 years separting there reigns as DLotS

Lots of that is wrong. Exar Kun was a better swordsman then Sadow, however Sadow was slightly stronger in the force and has at his disposal some pretty uber items. And Revan was leagues above any of these people.

I thought Anderson himself has said that Kun was stronger than even Marka Ragnos....

WTF? well then i'm really flucked up. lemme do sum research and i'll get back to this.

Exar is stronger as a swordsman then both Ragnos and Sadow, and stronger in the force then Ragnos but just below Sadow in the force. However Kun only had a few artifacts of the ancient sith at his disposal while Ragnos and Sadow had an entire arsenal.

-H6

Ragnos was the strongest of the ancient sith.....

Believed by many to be the strongest, he was in fact not.

-H6

And why is that?

In terms of the force: Sadow far surpassed him. Simus was more powerful. Kressh was approaching his power level.

In terms of swordsmanship: Sadow and Kressh were slightly greater. Simus was much greater.

These are solely ancient sith that featured in GAOTS and FOTSE.

-H6

nah den, kamikz has gotcha on that. i misjudged exars powers but not marka's. he was the strongest

Originally posted by HK69
In terms of the force: Sadow far surpassed him. Simus was more powerful. Kressh was approaching his power level.

In terms of swordsmanship: Sadow and Kressh were slightly greater. Simus was much greater.

These are solely ancient sith that featured in GAOTS and FOTSE.

-H6

How was simus more powerful if he tried to overthrow him and failed an had to live the rest of his life as a decapitated head in a perserves jar with a casader up his neck?

Revan takes Ulic, Naga takes Exar. Or Naga pwns Ulic, Revan holds off Exar and then Revan and Naga together pwn Exar.

Revan takes Ulic, Naga takes Exar. Or Naga pwns Ulic, Revan holds off Exar and then Revan and Naga together pwn Exar.

Edit: Where does it say that revan's the strongest ancient Sith?

Do you mean Ragnos?

Exar is better than Ragnos... Didn't the author say so himself? I believe Lightsnake has the details, so, I'm not the one for questioning. Anyway, if Ragnos is better than Naga, and Exar is better than Ragnos, it would seem that Exar would have a better chance of winning against him than not. As for Revan and Ulic, I don't know. Revan never really impressed me, at least Ulic has a solid record that can be used in a debate.

Ulic takes Revan.

Ulic's abilities have been properly displayed and are well established. Why I am sure that Revan is immensely powerful, I believe Ulic takes him after a lengthly duel.

Exar takes Sadow.

Sadow's abilities to make stars go supernova are due to his ship. Exar is probably the most powerful Sith Lord ever (look what his spirit imbued Kyp Durron to do) so I am pretty sure that, without his ship, Sadow goes down.

Exar takes Sadow, as according to KJA, Exar>The Ancients.
I'd contend Kun is the second strongest Sith, though. Ulic and revan are probably around even footing

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Exar takes Sadow, as according to KJA, Exar>The Ancients.
I'd contend Kun is the second strongest Sith, though. Ulic and revan are probably around even footing

I'd put Kun and DE Sidious on equal footing, actually. They both own (I just finally read the trilogy featuring him and Admiral Daala - who sucks, btw).

I'd have trouble putting Kun that high. Especially considering Yoda's already above Kun in saber dueling, being the best saber duelist the Jedi order had produced.
when it comes to DE, it's pretty much made clear Sidious reached a new plateau and almost became a Dark Side god

Yoda - the strongest saber dueler that the order ever produced? Hardly.

Considering it's outright stated he was...

I think that too, Lightsnake. He seems to just have more raw power than any of the others, even Kun. However, this doesn't have to do with DE Sidious. Kun is the most powerful one in this fight, and could beat Naga. Ulic and Revan are pretty close, not to mention that Ulic and Exar probably have some kind of synergy and work better as a team then Naga and Revan would. I'm going to say that Exar and Ulic have a solid, while not effortless victory.

I believe Kun could do this alone.

ok everyone says ragnos is the strongest so why didnt one of these other guys you say is stronger just kill him and take his place and why didnt they just tell his ghost to go bug someone else.