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Fight to the death, no BFR

Thor is always a challange to me, he's an "uber" powerful god thats portrayed like a brawler with no brains.

BB seems to pull out more wins and uses his powers more effectively on average with his showings.

Black Bolt should be able to win considering that he was able to kill a Thor possessed by Venom who had the strength of Spider-Man and Hulk.

However that was just a what if

Can Thor hammer absorb BB's quasi sonic scream?

Thor. I'd give him the higher strength, durability, hitting power. But if blackbolt manages a scream, thors in for a hurting. I'd say thor takes 7/10 though. Godforce vs. Scream, Godforce takes it...

You said to the death, which means these guys are going all out.

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I have scans of a fight between Thor and Blackbolt if anyone wants to see?

I would very much like to see that.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
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I have scans of a fight between Thor and Blackbolt if anyone wants to see?
Id like to see them.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Id like to see them.

Right away

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou12sm1cc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou28xp7yf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou32cy2xc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou43fl6rn.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou62xv0lf.jpg

Great scans, I guess we know the outcome dont we. Im not sure but maybe mjolnir would be able to absorb the energy anyways??

Not entirely. He couldn't scream for fear of destroying everything around him.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou12sm1cc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou28xp7yf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou32cy2xc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou43fl6rn.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou62xv0lf.jpg

Interesting. Thor fought smart. He needs to do that more often. Too bad this was a brief fight, though.
Thanks for the scans.

His hands were glowing, that shows he was holding back. If he had spoken even a sylable there people and Inhumans would have died.

Bloodlusted BB is going to start singing Showtunes at the bell, and he knows what to avoid this time around. BB takes the majority since not only does his voice have a sonic effect but it disrupts the electrons in atoms.

I'd give odds for a Shouting Blackbolt against almost anyone, and BB has already shown that he can handle Hulk in a way that would make Thor feel God-Like Jealousy.

Thor takes it 6/10 if BB cant use his voice, if he can BB takes it 10/10.

If mjolnir can absorb the energy then BB has no chance. We will probably never know if he can though.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
If mjolnir can absorb the energy then BB has no chance. We will probably never know if he can though.

Well it's been thought that Thor can absorb any kind of energy due to the fact that he's already absorbed so many various kinds.

Thats a good point and I know he can absorb any ammount BB could put out.

Thor with no hammer or odin power Thor could lose. Black Bolt's scream is like a mini-god force and acts instantly. Even Thor, who has withstood some truly incredible energy blasts in the past, would not be able to withstand a scream at short range, and certainly not at point blank range. Gladiator, for example, was ko'd with just a whisper in his ear. Could Thor do much better? I doubt it. Then again, could Black Bolt withstand Thor's lightning which he can summon without the hammer? With just a thought, Thor summoned a single bolt of lightning that put down the hulk. So it's lightning vs scream. It comes down to who decides to use their ultimate weapon first.

In a simple physical match, where Black Bolt did not use his voice, Thor would utterly dominate Black Bolt.

If Thor had the hammer, then he would easily defeat Black Bolt. The hammer can easily absorb anything Black Bolt can put out and send it back multiplied a hundred-fold at least.

If Thor had the Odin Power, it would be so one-sided that one could not really call it a battle.

Except that to absorb it, Thor would have to be ready for it. And Thor is almost always offensive. Double KO. BB gets shocked. Thor's ears bleed out.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Right away

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou12sm1cc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou28xp7yf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou32cy2xc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou43fl6rn.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou62xv0lf.jpg


VERY COOL!!!!!!!!! Could someone be so kind as to tell me what comic and issue # this is from???? Thankyou!!!!!!

Originally posted by rotiart
Except that to absorb it, Thor would have to be ready for it. And Thor is almost always offensive. Double KO. BB gets shocked. Thor's ears bleed out.

He didnt have to be ready for Phoenix's psi-bolt which he returned with interest. In fact, he wasn't expecting to be attacked at all.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Right away

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou12sm1cc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou28xp7yf.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou32cy2xc.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou43fl6rn.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/thou62xv0lf.jpg Nice scans, even though i didn't like the outcome..

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
VERY COOL!!!!!!!!! Could someone be so kind as to tell me what comic and issue # this is from???? Thankyou!!!!!!

Actually I don't remember

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats a good point and I know he can absorb any ammount BB could put out.

In the last scan Thor actually states that he negated Blackbolts ability to use his energy.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
In the last scan Thor actually states that he negated Blackbolts ability to use his energy. He is talking about how he smashed Blackbolts antenna which is used to control the energy. Not his mjolnir absorbing it. The scans are from Fantastic Four: Atlantis Rising 02

Hmm, if Blackbolt is using his full power he could win.

However in h2h, Thor trumps

Originally posted by thedude1948
He is talking about how he smashed Blackbolts antenna which is used to control the energy. Not his mjolnir absorbing it. The scans are from Fantastic Four: Atlantis Rising 02

That's what he did on this occasion, but he could also simply absorb all the energy if he wanted to with that nifty hammer of his. Mjolnir has been used to absorb everything from cosmic power to life force.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm, if Blackbolt is using his full power he could win.

However in h2h, Thor trumps

No Blackbolt should never open his mouth in a fight against Thor, it would be useless.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm, if Blackbolt is using his full power he could win.



If Thor didnt have his hammer it would be a question of who used their natural power first. Thor has lightning and blackbolt has his scream. Thor can also channel lightning and combine it with his own god-force and project it directly from his body, a power greater than the combined power of an entire race of gods but this requires some private time that Thor will not get in a one on one combat situation.

Thor wins better all in all abilities, powersets. 9/10

I'm not sure who wins if they are fighting to the death, but I always liked these few impressive shots of Black Bolts powers.

See ya Apocalypse
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/blackboltfeat16gt.gif

Telling the Surfer and somebody else to quit fighting in soundless space.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/whitmore_sean/d2db6_midsun2.jpg


He also called Galactus and he was on the other side of the galaxy. Galactus showed up in a hurry too.

blackbolt has the most devestating power on earth except for uber omega mutants and dr strange. he put down SPHINX with a scream the same sphinx who galactus himself could not control. hes taken punishment from an enraged hulk and got up to put him down hand to HAND. can create shields to absorb or deflect extremely powerful attacks and hey there is no chance in HELL that thor even stands a chance against him. rune king thor would be a better fight since hes about the same level as a wak sphinx. still the thor fanboys will never admit to it.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
blackbolt has the most devestating power on earth except for uber omega mutants and dr strange. he put down SPHINX with a scream the same sphinx who galactus himself could not control. hes taken punishment from an enraged hulk and got up to put him down hand to HAND. can create shields to absorb or deflect extremely powerful attacks and hey there is no chance in HELL that thor even stands a chance against him. rune king thor would be a better fight since hes about the same level as a wak sphinx. still the thor fanboys will never admit to it.

Well since the scans above show Blackbolt being defeated in basic combat, and Thor can absorb any energy Blackbolt puts out, I really see no way for Blackbolt to win? I will however give Blackbolt the benefit of the doubt and say he pulls out three wins

not true, in PURE physical combat hes just a STEP below thor/gladiater/hulk. and he has in the past withstood many powerful blows from these guys. thats only a few scans of a fight, there are many others that prove oterwise. blackbolt's energy can NOT be absorbed by mlijnor, not in the least specially since sphinx could neither absorb nor shield himself from it. thor is as good as dead.

as i said you should bring a fighter at or above sphinx level to deal with blackbolt rune king thor would be a better match though the outcome of even THAT is doubtful.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
not true, in PURE physical combat hes just a STEP below thor/gladiater/hulk. and he has in the past withstood many powerful blows from these guys. thats only a few scans of a fight, there are many others that prove oterwise. blackbolt's energy can NOT be absorbed by mlijnor, not in the least specially since sphinx could neither absorb nor shield himself from it. thor is as good as dead.

May I have proof please of this fight? I need proof showing Blackbolt putting down a Galactus lv character with one shot. Not only that I need proof that this character was even on Galactus lv in the first place?

Thor's strength and fighting ability far exceeds those of Blackbolts, so for you to make a claim stating that Blackbolt is just a "notch" below Thor is bold. I will need proof putting Blackbolt a "notch" below Thor.

What Makes Blackbolts energy any different than any other energy Mjolnir has been shown to absorb?

Mjolnir has been shown to absorb energy on these lv's

Thor locates and absorbs The Surfers blast

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorabsorbingSurfersblast.jpg

Thor absorbs a "universe destroying" blast and ignites the sun with it's power.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Thorsun.jpg

Thor absorbs energy from the Presence

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorvsPresence1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorvsPresence2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/ThorvsPresence3.jpg

So what stops Thor from absorbing Blackbolts energy?

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
If mjolnir can absorb the energy then BB has no chance. We will probably never know if he can though.

Given what Thor's been able to absorb in the past, it would seem, well, PISsy, IMO, if he couldn't absorb BB's scream energy, even if it takes everything he has.

BB certainly can win, given what he is capable of. But just going by Tale of the Tape, Thor wins the majority.

those are high end feats{atleast absorbing energy from the presence and a universe destroying blast}, its whats generally known as PIS. ill need a little while to dig out the scans but if ur interested go on the blackbolt respct thread and find them urself. where he puts down a very confident sphinx, u can then further go to wickipedia or any other source to see the history of sphinx, the FF cudnt handle him got scared and called galactus who cudnt handle him either and was forced to send him back through time as he coudnt physically stand upto him where the sphinx still stirred trouble in the past and future. i dont lie about feats or manipulate them like most people here.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
those are high end feats{atleast absorbing energy from the presence and a universe destroying blast}, its whats generally known as PIS. ill need a little while to dig out the scans but if ur interested go on the blackbolt respct thread and find them urself. where he puts down a very confident sphinx, u can then further go to wickipedia or any other source to see the history of sphinx, the FF cudnt handle him got scared and called galactus who cudnt handle him either and was forced to send him back through time as he coudnt physically stand upto him where the sphinx still stirred trouble in the past and future. i dont lie about feats or manipulate them like most people here.

You should go read up on the forum rules, high end feats are the feats that are used in debates.

Nah I'm not going to go do your job for you. If you make a claim it is your job, not mine to go find the proof to bake your statement.

You couldn't show proof that puts Blackbolt physically a notch below Thor, so thats thrown out.

I really can't say who would win since BB can't use his most powerfull move.
In h2h sure thor wins without a doubt, but that's not BB's strongest power, his scream is.

How would thor absorb a scream??

Originally posted by Brutacus
I really can't say who would win since BB can't use his most powerfull move.
In h2h sure thor wins without a doubt, but that's not BB's strongest power, his scream is.

How would thor absorb a scream??

Just like he would absorb any other form of energy, with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Just like he would absorb any other form of energy, with Mjolnir.

So he can absorb sound?
I mean iff BB talks the energy is not really a beam or something that is shot at Thor.
It's all around them I mean it's sound how you want to absorb that? I'm not saying he can't but it does sound a little bit odd

Originally posted by Brutacus
So he can absorb sound?
I mean iff BB talks the energy is not really a beam or something that is shot at Thor.
It's all around them I mean it's sound how you want to absorb that? I'm not saying he can't but it does sound a little bit odd

I agree here. Sound bounces everything, its not a blast that he can point the hammer at and absorb it. It comes from all angles. Im not so sure he could absorb his scream. And another thing Black Bolt can hang with Thor in h2h combat cuz he has done so with Glads, you can see that on his respect thread.

Originally posted by Brutacus
So he can absorb sound?
I mean iff BB talks the energy is not really a beam or something that is shot at Thor.
It's all around them I mean it's sound how you want to absorb that? I'm not saying he can't but it does sound a little bit odd

Actually sound is a form of energy, actually nearly if not everything is a form of energy.

Just about everything you read in comics should sound odd.

Originally posted by nimbus006
I agree here. Sound bounces everything, its not a blast that he can point the hammer at and absorb it. It comes from all angles. Im not so sure he could absorb his scream. And another thing Black Bolt can hang with Thor in h2h combat cuz he has done so with Glads, you can see that on his respect thread.

ABC logic doesn't apply here, sorry.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
ABC logic doesn't apply here, sorry.

I know it's a comic but still it's not a beam it's not really directed at him, iff BB screams the area around them is also effected iff I'm not mistaken.
still answer this can he absorb something that is all around him?

Originally posted by Brutacus
I know it's a comic but still it's not a beam it's not really directed at him, iff BB screams the area around them is also effected iff I'm not mistaken.
still answer this can he absorb something that is all around him?

When the blast went off in the scan I provided was there not a shock wave that moved like a sound wave?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Black Bolt should be able to win considering that he was able to kill a Thor possessed by Venom who had the strength of Spider-Man and Hulk.

However that was just a what if

Do you have scans of that?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
ABC logic doesn't apply here, sorry.

If he can go h2h with Glads yes that means he can go h2h with Thor so yes it does apply here, sorry. Im not sayin he can beat him, but he can at least stand up to him in h2h combat.

Originally posted by leonheartmm those are high end feats{atleast absorbing energy from the presence and a universe destroying blast}, its whats generally known as PIS.

If it's uncharacteristic and unprecedented and contrary to pattern then you are right, but in this case you are quite wrong. Thor has frequently used his hammer to absorb and channel all kinds of energies at levels far beyond anything Black Bolt can put out.



Is this supposed to be impressive?

Originally posted by Brutacus
I really can't say who would win since BB can't use his most powerfull move.
In h2h sure thor wins without a doubt, but that's not BB's strongest power, his scream is.

How would thor absorb a scream??

A scream is directed energy. Thor's hammer can absorb explosions which are not directed energy. Directed energy is a cinch.

Originally posted by aliveinboston
A scream is directed energy. Thor's hammer can absorb explosions which are not directed energy. Directed energy is a cinch.

So what are you saying then, that he can absorb a sonic scream?

Originally posted by nimbus006
So what are you saying then, that he can absorb a sonic scream?


lol, yes. Also, Black Bolt's scream isn't really sonic since it isnt really "sound". However, the existence of air results in sound being created even if the energy is not dependent on air to propogate. So if anything, the existence of air would decrease it's effective range and power as the air molecules would be absorbing some of the energy (resulting in sound).

Maybe Thor can absorb the actual concussive impact of the scream, but what about the effect it has on his ears? He is till going to hear the scream and its still going to hurt his ear drums, he's just not going to get destroyed by the blast, correct or not?

Originally posted by aliveinboston
lol, yes. Also, Black Bolt's scream isn't really sonic since it isnt really "sound". However, the existence of air results in sound being created even if the energy is not dependent on air to propogate. So if anything, the existence of air would decrease it's effective range and power as the air molecules would be absorbing some of the energy (resulting in sound).

I did not know that.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Maybe Thor can absorb the actual concussive impact of the scream, but what about the effect it has on his ears? He is till going to hear the scream and its still going to hurt his ear drums, he's just not going to get destroyed by the blast, correct or not?

Well, considering that Black Bolt's scream seems to affect objects rather than pass through, it's possibly a wide band microwave operating at very high frequencies.

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Hand to hand thor can take blackbolt...blackbolt sonic sonic scream is his only hope. his still i give thor the majority by a slim margin. Thor is more durable for his scream to knock him out form a safe distance, maybe 50-100 feet apart..
if thor plays his cards right and fight smart form a long distance thowing the miijior, and using his other ablities, fireing power full lighting blast at BB, hes gonna win this. Lighting is faster than sound, hence thor can mangae to KO BB before he opens his mouth.

blackbolt is being a bit underrated. i would call this an even split.

Thor knows about the scream. He will not just stand there and take a hit.