Reparations for slavery in the US

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Darth_Erebus
Apparently, the movement for this is growing

What do you people think of this? I mean really, should the descendants of one group of people be forced to pay money to the descendants of another group of people for something that ended over 140 years ago (supposedly)? This issue certainly not black and white (no pun intended).

There is no doubt that slavery is/was wrong.

However....


How will paying some
people money erase this blight from our history?

Who pays the reparations? The US government? That means people who never had anything to do with slavery, and many of us who's ancestors had nothing to do with slavery will pay, including blacks who pay taxes (which will be the source of any reparations) will pay. The blacks will in essence be paying themselves reparations.

And who will be the benificiaries? Anyone who is black? Anyone who says they are black. There are a large number of blacks living in the US who's ancestors were not slaves. What if I look white but say I had an ancestor who was a slave in Virginia in the late 1700s making me 1/32 black? Am I entitled to reparations also?

What about the contributions of African countries to the slave trade (which was enormous)? Is the US going to invade Africa to ensure they pay their fair share of the reparations?

My ancestors may well have been slaves during the Roman Empire. Should the US invade Italy and force it to pay reparations to me?

And what about all the present day slaves (yes, they exist) in America? Who is going to free them, let alone pay reparations

Once again I'll admit slavery was/is wrong but can't everyone see how ludicrous this reparations idea is? It will only serve to further harm our badly damaged country and make race relations worse than they obviously are while really doing nothing for the black community.

It's time to move on and deal with our current day issues, of which we have many.

Osaka
It's a really bad idea because of the fact there is nobody alive in america that was ever a slave or a slave owner. Also who would pay for it? The tax payers would and black people pay taxes too so they would in effect just be paying themselves.

C-Dic
Nothing will ever come of this. Just another instance of African American's segregating themselves, straining race relations, and the funny thing is, white people will still get blamed.
Message to all those wanting reparations. **** you. I don't owe you anything.

That episode of "Chappelle's Show" comes to mind, where everyone's granted a reparatons check, and they buy out liquor stores, fried chicken chains, and a dude drives off in a truck full of Newports. laughing out loud



We're (white people) are over it, and don't feel responsible for what we didn't do, and why should we?

It's times like this that I point out that the Jews would NEVER look for reparations from the Germans for what THEY endured, which in retrospect, is just as bad, if not worse. I appreciate the Jewish community being GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE NOW...not looking for state funding, or looking for hand outs because they think they're owed for something they never endured.

Only in America, or, in this case, the United States of Africa.

Grimm22
My ansestors have nothing to do with the slave trade no expression

Why should I have to pay?!?!?

Heck why should those whose ansestors were in the slave trade have to pay?

I mean its not like they are responsible for that acitons of the preocecors.

I mean thats like saying that if a girl's father is a murderer than she too is a murderer What the f**k?

Nazgulinthedark
That is total and complete BS.
Yes, slavery was wrong, but I am not going to fork up my own money that I worked for to pay people for something that happened over a century ago.

Believe me, I get enough shit already just being Southern with people calling me racist and on more than one occasion being accused of being in the KKK. There is no way in hell that my finances are going to suffer because of something my ancestors did. My pride already suffers from that.

Nazgulinthedark
This is another thing that annoys me. When I read this article I see
"As many as 60 blacks died, and thousands were driven from the city"
"as many as 300 blacks killed"
The article never says that so many Americans died. It says so many African Americans died. The people who are trying to help out the black people don't seem to notice that they are just exaggerating the difference between whites and blacks instead of trying to remove the difference.
Whites and blacks should be treated the same.
When they say "programs to support local black businesses and home ownership," they forget that there are many other Americans who aren't black, and aren't necessarily white, who need help starting their own business and paying for their homes. Why do they only support blacks and not all Americans? They continue to make differences evident. They should be supporting American business owners, because no matter our color, we are all Americans.

SpadeKing
we deserve the reparation ermm or 140 years of whooping ya'll and calling you toby no expression

Nazgulinthedark
You weren't a slave. What the hell do you need my money for? Go get a job and make your own money.

Alliance
Perhaps instead of paying reparations, we could actually make an effort to boost aid to programs that help to better educate minority children and to make them as socially competative as white children.

grey fox
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
This is another thing that annoys me. When I read this article I see
"As many as 60 blacks died, and thousands were driven from the city"
"as many as 300 blacks killed"
The article never says that so many Americans died. It says so many African Americans died. The people who are trying to help out the black people don't seem to notice that they are just exaggerating the difference between whites and blacks instead of trying to remove the difference.
Whites and blacks should be treated the same.
When they say "programs to support local black businesses and home ownership," they forget that there are many other Americans who aren't black, and aren't necessarily white, who need help starting their own business and paying for their homes. Why do they only support blacks and not all Americans? They continue to make differences evident. They should be supporting American business owners, because no matter our color, we are all Americans.

It's what we call bias.

Osaka
What about those who immigrated to america after the 1860s? Should they pay too?

Alliance
No one should have to pay. Its not a serious movement. People should however be respectful of African Americans and thier contribution to society. Give them a little extra hand now and again to help make shure that they are being treated equally, instead of just glossing over racism like it doesn't exist anymore.

Blue nocturne
Originally posted by C-Dic






It's times like this that I point out that the Jews would NEVER look for reparations from the Germans for what THEY endured, which in retrospect, is just as bad, if not worse. I appreciate the Jewish community being GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE NOW...not looking for state funding, or looking for hand outs because they think they're owed for something they never endured.

Only in America, or, in this case, the United States of Africa.

jews do get reparations for the holocaust

Alliance
but the other 6 million people (tho other half) who were killed in the Holocost don't.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
You weren't a slave. What the hell do you need my money for? Go get a job and make your own money.

my great great granparents were ermm

Originally posted by Alliance
Perhaps instead of paying reparations, we could actually make an effort to boost aid to programs that help to better educate minority children and to make them as socially competative as white children.

well where I stay its the other way around

C-Dic
Originally posted by Alliance
No one should have to pay. Its not a serious movement. People should however be respectful of African Americans and thier contribution to society. Give them a little extra hand now and again to help make shure that they are being treated equally, instead of just glossing over racism like it doesn't exist anymore.

African Americans themselves are more racist and self-segregating to themselves and everyone else than white people could ever imagine.
Anywho, nothing will ever come of this, so it's really nothing to worry about. However, the more people become aware of this ridiculous gimmick, the more strained the relations we can expect in the future.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by C-Dic
African Americans themselves are more racist and self-segregating to themselves and everyone else than white people could ever imagine.
Anywho, nothing will ever come of this, so it's really nothing to worry about. However, the more people become aware of this ridiculous gimmick, the more strained the relations we can expect in the future.

no cause we are joking around all the time, unlike ya'll we have fun with name calling ermm and how are we the most racist to ourselves? ever heard of the KKK?

Nazgulinthedark
Originally posted by SpadeKing
my great great granparents were ermm


My ancestors were French people who immigrated to the US in the 1600s and were persecuted and discriminated against until the early 1900s. My grandfather grew up speaking French in the US and was discriminated against. My mother wasn't allowed to speak French in public and not allowed to take French in high school because her dad was afraid of the same persecution he faced.
Now, tell me that I deserve a reparation because of something my dead grandfather went through. Exactly. It didn't happen to me, and slavery didn't happen to you, and neither of us deserve any money. Apparently we've been able to forget about what US citizens put French Americans through and have now made them equal to the rest of us.
Now why can't we do that with black people? Continuously people who support these reparations and the like make hypocrites out of themselves and instead of making blacks and whites the same, they make everyone even more different.

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by Alliance
Perhaps instead of paying reparations, we could actually make an effort to boost aid to programs that help to better educate minority children and to make them as socially competative as white children.

I agree with this.

The concept of "reparation" after so long strikes me as symbolically and economically as useless. Far better to admit "yes, bad things happened, and we can't change that. Far better to try and make sure it never happens again by using such money to help those who are facing social, cultural, educational segregation today."

Mindship
Everyone should get reparations from everyone else. Problem solved.

Seriously, people alive now should Not be held accountable for what ancestors did a long time ago. IMO, that is a ridiculous proposition which only encourages a boo-hoo/poor-me/I'm-a-victim mindset. My ancestors had experienced slavery, persecution, atrocities, no homeland over a period spanning thousands of years--not the "mere hundreds" of years black Americans were subject to. Heck, my ancestors were enslaved probably long before Africans ever even saw a white face (and, as I understand it, slavery is an African invention, part of tribal warfare. The Europeans refined it).

Life isn't fair. Duh. But to make the best of it, it is up to each of us, with the choices we make, to determine the quality of our lives.

jaden101
this concept is as utterly ridiculous as tony blairs insistance on going around the world apologising for everything the British have ever done

which even stretched to apologising to Japan for ww2...despite the fact the japanese had the worst record for treating POW's of any conflict including Germany in ww2

C-Dic
Originally posted by SpadeKing
no cause we are joking around all the time, unlike ya'll we have fun with name calling ermm and how are we the most racist to ourselves? ever heard of the KKK?

Refering to yourselves as "niggas" in pretty much every "rap" song for starters. Black on Black crime has always been an issue. Then of course there's the self-segregation in pretty much every other aspect. Media, clothing, food, politics, educational funding, music, television.

We have no equivalents to BET, Black Enterprise, FUBU, Black History Month, any of that. We don't need them, and not because white people have had it easy all along, because the majority of mainstream America is already about equality, not segregation.

There's a difference between pride in one's heritage and outright ignorant segregation. The KKK are a joke. Not only has the organization been powerless for decades now, they're about as old of news as slavery itself. Next thing you know, they'll be the next reparations target.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I agree with this.

The concept of "reparation" after so long strikes me as symbolically and economically as useless. Far better to admit "yes, bad things happened, and we can't change that. Far better to try and make sure it never happens again by using such money to help those who are facing social, cultural, educational segregation today."

It's not our place to pay for someone else's education outside that of the standard grade school. That's why we pay taxes, and why there's the state funding for education. Why not just start a United Negro School Fund that isn't specific to college, aside from the fact that it's another segregation issue, if education is so important.

If all the other attempts at raising awareness of whatever instances you can think of aren't working, maybe it's not because the teaching isn't being pushed, but maybe the kids just don't care, nor do the parents?

Alliance
Equality boo hoo. We (whites) held them down for so long, maybe they need a little extra boost to get back to where they should be if societe was equal. Segregation my a$$. White people can't run around screaming "segregation" or "racism." The point is , minorities are still not treated equally. Instead of wasting time on pointles givaways, maybe we could work to make equality a pirority.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Alliance
Equality boo hoo. We (whites) held them down for so long, maybe they need a little extra boost to get back to where they should be if societe was equal. Segregation my a$$. White people can't run around screaming "segregation" or "racism." The point is , minorities are still not treated equally. Instead of wasting time on pointles givaways, maybe we could work to make equality a pirority.

I didn't hold them down. I would appreciate if you refrain from using "we" when not talking for "us".

C-Dic
Originally posted by Alliance
Equality boo hoo. We (whites) held them down for so long, maybe they need a little extra boost to get back to where they should be if societe was equal. Segregation my a$$. White people can't run around screaming "segregation" or "racism." The point is , minorities are still not treated equally. Instead of wasting time on pointles givaways, maybe we could work to make equality a pirority.

I ****ing hate the word "minority". Just because someone's in the minority doesn't mean they can't make a difference on their own. It's used way too often to get preferrential treatment or aid.

Why should I feel obligated to help out a culture that is obviously ungrateful for the freedom they live under? Going as far as to want payback from people who had nothing to do with something they never endured. Is that equality, or is that blatant ignorance?

My point is that the "minorities" won't ever be treated fairly, and it's as much their fault as it is the us "evil white oppressors". There are too many double standards that have been sliding through for the sake of a backlash, the likes of which have been taken advantage of, and as you can see, they're still not satisfied.

I'll make equality a priority in my life when they make the abolishment of self-segregation theirs.

botankus
Originally posted by Alliance
Equality boo hoo. We (whites) held them down for so long, maybe they need a little extra boost to get back to where they should be if societe was equal. Segregation my a$$. White people can't run around screaming "segregation" or "racism." The point is , minorities are still not treated equally. Instead of wasting time on pointles givaways, maybe we could work to make equality a pirority.
Oh, my God, this post is a riot!!!! I skimmed it at first, but didn't realize how bad it was until I read Bardock and Cory's responses. laughing out loud

I need an extra boost, too. My grandfather was a minimum-wage fireman and because of that, my dad got off to a slow start in providing riches for me. Check, please! (true story)

Soleran
Anyone who thinks paying reparations is a good idea should lick my crack.

C-Dic
That's probably the best solution, right there, but ya know..suggesting anything about "crack" and "black people", and the Rainbow Coalition will be knocking on your front doo....oh shit...

*goes to answer his door*

eek!

C-Dic
Originally posted by Bardock42
I didn't hold them down. I would appreciate if you refrain from using "we" when not talking for "us".

Awww, c'mon you mean old kraut. You're just as oppressive as the rest of us honkeys!

botankus
Dear World,

I would also like an extra boost in the automotive department. Because I was cruelly trained on an Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais, I have been at a disadvantage and ultimately evolved into the following glamour vehicles: Ford Escort, Ford Escort, Ford Focus.

Please deliver my fully-loaded MiniVan to my door tonight. I would thank you, but I'm too busy celebrating to do so. Go **** yourself instead, but only after I get the vehicle.

WrathfulDwarf
HAHAHA! Oh, this has got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard today. Reparations? Puhleeze!

There is satirical joke in the movie Barbershop about this topic. If I remenber correctly the character play by Cedric the Entertainer says something similar to this "Reperation, Preparation, whatever. If they gives money that only means one thing....Cadillac will become #1 dealer in the world"

Give them Jobs that's the best reparations anyone can get.

PVS
bring jobs to the ghetto. not everyone can work at macdonalds.

Phoenix2001
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Apparently, the movement for this is growing

What do you people think of this? I mean really, should the descendants of one group of people be forced to pay money to the descendants of another group of people for something that ended over 140 years ago (supposedly)? This issue certainly not black and white (no pun intended).

There is no doubt that slavery is/was wrong.

However....


How will paying some
people money erase this blight from our history?

Who pays the reparations? The US government? That means people who never had anything to do with slavery, and many of us who's ancestors had nothing to do with slavery will pay, including blacks who pay taxes (which will be the source of any reparations) will pay. The blacks will in essence be paying themselves reparations.

And who will be the benificiaries? Anyone who is black? Anyone who says they are black. There are a large number of blacks living in the US who's ancestors were not slaves. What if I look white but say I had an ancestor who was a slave in Virginia in the late 1700s making me 1/32 black? Am I entitled to reparations also?

What about the contributions of African countries to the slave trade (which was enormous)? Is the US going to invade Africa to ensure they pay their fair share of the reparations?

My ancestors may well have been slaves during the Roman Empire. Should the US invade Italy and force it to pay reparations to me?

And what about all the present day slaves (yes, they exist) in America? Who is going to free them, let alone pay reparations

Once again I'll admit slavery was/is wrong but can't everyone see how ludicrous this reparations idea is? It will only serve to further harm our badly damaged country and make race relations worse than they obviously are while really doing nothing for the black community.

It's time to move on and deal with our current day issues, of which we have many.

This only makes me want to assinate a couple of important figures here.

I doubt I'm responsible for what my great great great great great grandfather did 140 years ago. The black community needs to grow up.

PVS
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
The black community needs to grow up.

idiotic statement of the week *gold star*

cking
thats a bunch of poo. they need to go out and get a real job and stop forcing people who have nothing to do with that crap to pay worthless reparations.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
My ancestors were French people who immigrated to the US in the 1600s and were persecuted and discriminated against until the early 1900s. My grandfather grew up speaking French in the US and was discriminated against. My mother wasn't allowed to speak French in public and not allowed to take French in high school because her dad was afraid of the same persecution he faced.
Now, tell me that I deserve a reparation because of something my dead grandfather went through. Exactly. It didn't happen to me, and slavery didn't happen to you, and neither of us deserve any money. Apparently we've been able to forget about what US citizens put French Americans through and have now made them equal to the rest of us.
Now why can't we do that with black people? Continuously people who support these reparations and the like make hypocrites out of themselves and instead of making blacks and whites the same, they make everyone even more different.

vecause we were hanged, beaten, taken from our homes, given different names, put with rival tribes, not taught english or how to write, and everyone spoke a different language, and barerly ate

Soleran
Originally posted by SpadeKing
vecause we were hanged, beaten, taken from our homes, given different names, put with rival tribes, not taught english or how to write, and everyone spoke a different language, and barerly ate




Who is this WE stuff....................

cking
I don't what is referred to as we?

SpadeKing
Originally posted by C-Dic
Refering to yourselves as "niggas" in pretty much every "rap" song for starters. Black on Black crime has always been an issue. Then of course there's the self-segregation in pretty much every other aspect. Media, clothing, food, politics, educational funding, music, television.

We have no equivalents to BET, Black Enterprise, FUBU, Black History Month, any of that. We don't need them, and not because white people have had it easy all along, because the majority of mainstream America is already about equality, not segregation.

There's a difference between pride in one's heritage and outright ignorant segregation. The KKK are a joke. Not only has the organization been powerless for decades now, they're about as old of news as slavery itself. Next thing you know, they'll be the next reparations target.


well pretty much cause most of them have attitudes, and committing black on white crime would get us life in prison not matter what we do, and we like certain music so that lead up to the liking of certain clothes and etc. due to what the celebs did.
every month is white history month except february, so no you don't need them but 'we' do its not equality, most movies the black guy dies first til we figured it out, most TV shows there is no one black.
we do take pride in our heritage but, after people started getting interested into rap, hip hop, and R&B, many who didn't have jobs just because they were black went to that and carried a chip on their shoulders from racism, and we can't let it out on whites cause we would be racist and blamed by the police for everything, there is still racism out there cause we still have racist coaches, office secreteries, teachers, cops (all of them are ermm) just plain racist people. we are atleast able to say something to each other without going crazy
ex. if we say shut up nigga to another, we might argue a bit but, most of the time we are playing
now if you were arguing to one of your own kind, you said shut up cracker. ya'll would be fighting so to tell you the truth though you take pride in your heritage you're also ignorant about someone else of your own heritage making fun of it

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Soleran
Who is this WE stuff....................

we the black ppl ermm

Bardock42
Originally posted by C-Dic
Awww, c'mon you mean old kraut. You're just as oppressive as the rest of us honkeys! Yeah, we don't have many negr....African Germans around though.

Bardock42
Originally posted by SpadeKing
vecause we were hanged, beaten, taken from our homes, given different names, put with rival tribes, not taught english or how to write, and everyone spoke a different language, and barerly ate

Here's a deal, I get to hang you, beat you, take you from your home (the one with the Internet Access), give you a different name (I thought about "greedy *******" so far, how would you like it?), put you with some rival tribes in ...lets say Somalia (where you might live now if your ancestors weren't taken), hardly give you anything to eat and not necessarily in that order....and I give you a couple of bucks in return (after like 20 years..if you make it)

Soleran
Originally posted by Bardock42
Here's a deal, I get to hang you, beat you, take you from your home (the one with the Internet Access), give you a different name (I thought about "greedy *******" so far, how would you like it?), put you with some rival tribes in ...lets say Somalia (where you might live now if your ancestors weren't taken), hardly give you anything to eat and not necessarily in that order....and I give you a couple of bucks in return (after like 20 years..if you make it)


Lol, now thats the money wagon I wanna ride!

Phoenix2001
Originally posted by SpadeKing
if we say shut up nigga to another, we might argue a bit...

... and then *BLAM* *BLAM* "What now foo!!"

So you're right... you might argue a bit.... before killing each other.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
... and then *BLAM* *BLAM* "What now foo!!"

So you're right... you might argue a bit.... before killing each other.

Are you a closet racist?

jaden101
maddox last piece on "African Americans" was hilarious

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=your_stupid_ideas

KidRock
I would never give my money for slave reparations. Cause that money would be going to lazy pieces of shit who just want a free hand out because they are crying "slavery".

Alliance
Which is exactly why repirations is a bad idea but this form proves how much rascism is still a part of American society.

Mindship
Originally posted by SpadeKing
vecause we were hanged, beaten, taken from our homes, given different names, put with rival tribes, not taught english or how to write, and everyone spoke a different language, and barerly ate

There is some truth to this.

It is my impression that the one thing taken from Africans when they were brought here, the one thing that other persecuted people had which gave them strength, which gave them hope, which gave them the power to survive their oppression and thrive, was their heritage.

IMO, speaking as a Jew, it was our culture, our heritage and faith which has enabled us to thrive despite millennia of persecution. We identified with something bigger than ourselves. Other demographic groups had theirs as well. But to a large extent, this is exactly what was stripped from Africans.

Now...does this mean African-Americans are special, that they deserve special treatment? "Reparations?" No. Many African-Americans themselves resent the notion, find it demeaning, because it implies that they are not as capable as the next guy. And while life is Not fair, while Racism still exists, there is one other factor--The Most Important Factor--which will determine the quality of one's life. And a mature, responsible individual--regardless of faith/culture/race--knows exactly what it is:

Making the right choices.

If I've offended or bored anyone, I apologize. But this has been on my mind for a while, and well, hell, this is a forum.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Mindship

If I've offended or bored anyone, I apologize. But this has been on my mind for a while, and well, hell, this is a forum.

Nah, didn't bore me...I just didn't read it.

Mindship
Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, didn't bore me...I just didn't read it.
laughing out loud

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Bardock42
Here's a deal, I get to hang you, beat you, take you from your home (the one with the Internet Access), give you a different name (I thought about "greedy *******" so far, how would you like it?), put you with some rival tribes in ...lets say Somalia (where you might live now if your ancestors weren't taken), hardly give you anything to eat and not necessarily in that order....and I give you a couple of bucks in return (after like 20 years..if you make it)

clapping

Originally posted by KidRock
I would never give my money for slave reparations. Cause that money would be going to lazy pieces of shit who just want a free hand out because they are crying "slavery".

can anyone say Racist? eek! most of us don't have jobs cause they have racist bosses and company owners, like my uncle who was denied a job cause the owner of the company was a racist, as a matter of fact 2 jobs eek! now he sits home and play games all day cause eh can't get a job cause he's black we're not lazy you're just racist

Originally posted by Phoenix2001
... and then *BLAM* *BLAM* "What now foo!!"

So you're right... you might argue a bit.... before killing each other.

at my school and expierence's I never seen anyone fight after that but, when you guys call each other crackers its like a cat fight then laughing

Soleran
Originally posted by SpadeKing

can anyone say Racist? eek! most of us don't have jobs cause they have racist bosses and company owners, like my uncle who was denied a job cause the owner of the company was a racist, as a matter of fact 2 jobs eek! now he sits home and play games all day cause eh can't get a job cause he's black we're not lazy you're just racist




WoW it just sounds like your Uncle is LAZY..............a whole 2 jobs lol. Sorry if there was some racist business owners but still 2 jobs and now he just sits at home playing games...............LAMER.

Bardock42
Originally posted by SpadeKing
now he sits home and play games all day cause eh can't get a job cause he's black we're not lazy you're just racist

Well, have you considered going back to Africa?

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Soleran
WoW it just sounds like your Uncle is LAZY..............a whole 2 jobs lol. Sorry if there was some racist business owners but still 2 jobs and now he just sits at home playing games...............LAMER.

no cause his last five jobs he was fired no expression 1st. he was fired cause of underage. 2nd. fired cause of him being arrested for being around some guy who had drugs in his car and he didn't know he got bailed ermm 3rd. fired for cussing out his boss eek! another racist 4th. fired for falling asleep on the job laughing 5th. fired for license being suspended no expression

so he was fired from 5 denied by 2. and can't get a job cause of those reasons

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, have you considered going back to Africa?

have you considered going back to Europe ermm

Bardock42
Originally posted by SpadeKing
have you considered going back to Europe ermm

Even better, I didn't leave to begin with.

Alliance
argh.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Bardock42
Even better, I didn't leave to begin with.

have you considered........... confused um visiting antartica eek! I dont get 1234

Bardock42
Originally posted by SpadeKing
have you considered........... confused um visiting antartica eek! I dont get 1234

Yeah considered it....at least everything is white there.

Alliance
must be a paradise for you then.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Alliance
must be a paradise for you then. That was the joke..thank you for explaining it.

FistOfThe North
At least an apology from congress or from the President. It was his race that did it.

Bardock42
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
At least an apology from congress or from the President. It was his race that did it.

Then you apologize for massacres on whites in Africa, alright?

RedSkull
Originally posted by SpadeKing
no cause his last five jobs he was fired no expression 1st. he was fired cause of underage. 2nd. fired cause of him being arrested for being around some guy who had drugs in his car and he didn't know he got bailed ermm 3rd. fired for cussing out his boss eek! another racist 4th. fired for falling asleep on the job laughing 5th. fired for license being suspended no expression

so he was fired from 5 denied by 2. and can't get a job cause of those reasons

Firstly I am not a racist, I think racism is a major problem in the United States but it happens everyday and will probably happen a long time into the future as well, as stupid as it is.

Secondly I also think that giving "reparations" to ancestors of slaves is the wrong thing to do not because I'm racist but because as horrible as slavery was, it happened a long time ago and it's not like giving sums of money to people is going to magically make it disappear from our history. It's in the past forget about it.

Thirdly that post above, you say that your uncle can't get jobs because of racism, OK I guess that can happen from time to time, but seriously look at what you posted. The first job he is fired for being underage so I am under the impression that it means he lied about his age to get the job and then got fired from it when they found out. The second time it just sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The third time he cussed out his boss, well no duh he is going to get fired I don't care if the guy is racist or not, you try to give your boss an opinion other than his and you can kiss your ass goodbye. The fourth time again he fell asleep on the job so he must not have cared TO much about the job if he slept while there. And last but not least he go fired because his license was suspended I.M.O if he needed his license for the job than he deserved to get fired. Don't take this post as an attack I am just saying that you are trying to pawn off the idea that your uncle can't get a job because of RACISM when in the case of your uncle, only one time out of the 5 jobs he had could he have said he got fired b/c of racism. (the time he cussed out his boss I have no idea if the boss was being racist towards him or not.)

PVS
if reparations meant that money would be applied for revenue in underclass neighborhoods for school, medical benefits, law enforcement ...anything applying to aiding the social/economic structure i would certainly support it. if they just plan on getting checks in the mail then thats bullshit.

RedSkull
It will still come out of the public's taxes.

Nellinator
I think reperation is a terrible idea. The evil of slavery has been changed and is in the process of healing. I think America apologized when the blood of white men was spilled fighting to free black Americans in the Civil War. Racism is slowly fading from America and will hopefully continue to do so. Helping to remove racism is the only way that true reparations can be made. Money will not help much and has yet to improve the status of African Americans. This is coming from a Canadian perspective but I do not think it is far from the truth.

Alliance
I know bardock, or at least I assumed to know.

You can be against reparations and not be racist. This is my stance.

But I'm not ignorant of the current race climate in the US and there are a lot of tensions. THis is not going to magically heal itself. We have some (not all) the responsibility when minorities have 50% dropout rates. Something should be done. Education is the great equalizer.

Darth Callous
Originally posted by KidRock
I would never give my money for slave reparations. Cause that money would be going to lazy pieces of shit who just want a free hand out because they are crying "slavery".

As a Black man, I couldn't agree more. It was well over a century ago, and nobody alive today was a slaver themself. Those folks who demand reparations just need to get up off their ass and try going to work once in a while.

BackFire
Penn and Teller said it best- Reparation is bullshit.

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Bardock42
Then you apologize for massacres on whites in Africa, alright?

Do not compare 300 years of slavery plus another 100 years of segregation to this so called "massacre" on whites in S.A. that I never heard of. I did hear of Apartheid, though..

Mindship
Originally posted by Alliance
Education is the great equalizer.

Unfortunately, in the US, Education is given a lot of lip service.

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Do not compare 300 years of slavery plus another 100 years of segregation to this so called "massacre" on whites in S.A. that I never heard of. I did hear of Apartheid, though..

Well, by definition when you have a certain number killed for no good reason it is a massacre. I believe it is Mugabe who incited the black population to kill white farmers because, well, they were white.

Alliance
Originally posted by Mindship
Unfortunately, in the US, Education is given a lot of lip service.

So true. People would rather see it abandoned and privatized. The failing quality of education explains a lot about our nations leaders.

FistOfThe North
No amount of money can repair what was done by the oppressors during that dark chapter in American history.

Keep your fcking money.

Regret
Personally, I could care less about the Black-Skinned Americans today getting reparations. Now, if they were willing to drop the African from their reference of origin, maybe I would care. Are they African or American, the continents are a bit separate. Perhaps I'd view a need for reparation as more legit if they claimed an African country's citizenship, and not United States citizenship.

Sorry, I'm a bit sore on the subject. I did not get a job at the company I wanted because they wanted a diverse employee base, and I'm white. I also was told by a high school girlfriend's father that she needed to date people of her own color. I am also Mormon, just look at our early history with the U.S. government and tell me that my ancestors that were killed were better off than the slaves, maybe the Mormons should get reparations too. It's asinine.

FistOfThe North
asinine is your comparison little mormon comparison to the worst atrocity that occurred in the US by "Americans".

Alliance
The people who held slaves were just as American as you and I are.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah considered it....at least everything is white there.

no its not what about the white people who died form frost bite? tehy are black now no expression

RedSkull
Originally posted by SpadeKing
no its not what about the white people who died form frost bite? tehy are black now no expression

what does that have to do with anything?

FistOfThe North
The "no reparations!" ideal the oppressors cry about will be replaced with karma.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
At least an apology from congress or from the President. It was his race that did it.

he's racist too no expression

Originally posted by RedSkull
Firstly I am not a racist, I think racism is a major problem in the United States but it happens everyday and will probably happen a long time into the future as well, as stupid as it is.

Secondly I also think that giving "reparations" to ancestors of slaves is the wrong thing to do not because I'm racist but because as horrible as slavery was, it happened a long time ago and it's not like giving sums of money to people is going to magically make it disappear from our history. It's in the past forget about it.

Thirdly that post above, you say that your uncle can't get jobs because of racism, OK I guess that can happen from time to time, but seriously look at what you posted. The first job he is fired for being underage so I am under the impression that it means he lied about his age to get the job and then got fired from it when they found out. The second time it just sounds like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The third time he cussed out his boss, well no duh he is going to get fired I don't care if the guy is racist or not, you try to give your boss an opinion other than his and you can kiss your ass goodbye. The fourth time again he fell asleep on the job so he must not have cared TO much about the job if he slept while there. And last but not least he go fired because his license was suspended I.M.O if he needed his license for the job than he deserved to get fired. Don't take this post as an attack I am just saying that you are trying to pawn off the idea that your uncle can't get a job because of RACISM when in the case of your uncle, only one time out of the 5 jobs he had could he have said he got fired b/c of racism. (the time he cussed out his boss I have no idea if the boss was being racist towards him or not.)

1. I didn't call you racist
2. so we can have money seeing we never get job promotions ermm
3.1st. he heard wrong about it the job was for 16 his friend said you can be 14 for minimum wage. 2nd. yeah, he didn't know the guy either the guy also admitted to not knowing him and just picking him up cause he had no ride... he claimed ot be a christian but had drugs in his trunk 3. his boss called him a low life ****** now tell me you wouldn't had cussed him out 4. ok four wasn't exactly his fault he didn't get no sleep that day everyone needed him to take him somewhere 5. yea he got caught by the same cop for stupid stuff 4 times, music too loud, speed trap, running a red light which he didn't and I know cause I was with him, and speeding that was his fault though. yes that cop is racist too cause he stopped my mom for running a red light she also didn't run but the person directly behind her didn't run the red light somehow

SpadeKing
Originally posted by RedSkull
what does that have to do with anything?

his post

Great Vengeance
Reparations will just invite a new wave of racism.

Grimm22
Every racial backround has its embarresments

For whites its rednecks

For blacks it gangsters

For asians its.... communism?!? confused

For arabs its terrorists

However that dosent mean that the entire race is that way, and even if the majority was there are still going to be a select few who arent no expression

Alliance
Those comments themselves are based on racist, biased, and narrowminded stereotypes.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Alliance
Those comments themselves are based on racist, biased, and narrowminded stereotypes.

Pretty much, but thats how some people see certain races erm

Mindship
Which reminds me of a joke...

HOW MOSES GOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS

God went to the Arabs and said, "I have Commandments for you that will make your lives better."

The Arabs asked, "What are Commandments?"

And the Lord said, "They are rules for living."

"Can you give us an example?"

"Thou shall not kill."

"Not kill? We're not interested."

God went to the Blacks and said, "I have Commandments."

The Blacks wanted an example, and the Lord said, "Honor thy Father and

Mother."

"Father? We don't know who our fathers are. We're not interested."

Then He went to the Mexicans and said, "I have Commandments."

The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said "Thou shall not

steal"

"Not steal? We're not interested."

Then He went to the French and said, "I have Commandments."

The French too wanted an example and the Lord said, "Thou shall not commit adultery."

"Not commit adultery? We're not interested."

Finally, He went to the Jews and said, "I have Commandments."

"Commandments?" They said, "How much are they?"

"They're free."

"We'll take 10."



There, that ought to offend just about everybody.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Mindship
Which reminds me of a joke...

HOW MOSES GOT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS

God went to the Arabs and said, "I have Commandments for you that will make your lives better."

The Arabs asked, "What are Commandments?"

And the Lord said, "They are rules for living."

"Can you give us an example?"

"Thou shall not kill."

"Not kill? We're not interested."

God went to the Blacks and said, "I have Commandments."

The Blacks wanted an example, and the Lord said, "Honor thy Father and

Mother."

"Father? We don't know who our fathers are. We're not interested."

Then He went to the Mexicans and said, "I have Commandments."

The Mexicans also wanted an example, and the Lord said "Thou shall not

steal"

"Not steal? We're not interested."

Then He went to the French and said, "I have Commandments."

The French too wanted an example and the Lord said, "Thou shall not commit adultery."

"Not commit adultery? We're not interested."

Finally, He went to the Jews and said, "I have Commandments."

"Commandments?" They said, "How much are they?"

"They're free."

"We'll take 10."



There, that ought to offend just about everybody.
except whites ermm

Mindship
Originally posted by SpadeKing
except whites ermm

What about the French? Most Jews? Technically, Mexicans (Hispanic) are of the white race; so are Arabs. If anything, I would say Asians should feel left out.

C'mon. This thread was getting too serious smile

Alliance
BOOM!

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Mindship
What about the French? Most Jews? Technically, Mexicans (Hispanic) are of the white race; so are Arabs. If anything, I would say Asians should feel left out.

C'mon. This thread was getting too serious smile

there is a difference no expression and I noticed

Blue nocturne
Originally posted by SpadeKing
well pretty much cause most of them have attitudes, and committing black on white crime would get us life in prison not matter what we do, and we like certain music so that lead up to the liking of certain clothes and etc. due to what the celebs did.
every month is white history month except february, so no you don't need them but 'we' do its not equality, most movies the black guy dies first til we figured it out, most TV shows there is no one black.
we do take pride in our heritage but, after people started getting interested into rap, hip hop, and R&B, many who didn't have jobs just because they were black went to that and carried a chip on their shoulders from racism, and we can't let it out on whites cause we would be racist and blamed by the police for everything, there is still racism out there cause we still have racist coaches, office secreteries, teachers, cops (all of them are ermm) just plain racist people. we are atleast able to say something to each other without going crazy
ex. if we say shut up nigga to another, we might argue a bit but, most of the time we are playing
now if you were arguing to one of your own kind, you said shut up cracker. ya'll would be fighting so to tell you the truth though you take pride in your heritage you're also ignorant about someone else of your own heritage making fun of it

You must be the "Black King" since you can speak for everyone so freely.

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You must be the "Black King" since you can speak for everyone so freely.

um no ask any black person I'm pretty sure its the same answer

Darth Callous
Originally posted by SpadeKing
um no ask any black person I'm pretty sure its the same answer

Where you from, brutha? I'm askin', cuz you seem pretty xenophobic.

Btw: May is Asian History Month and October is Hispanic History Month.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by SpadeKing
except whites ermm

It's funny...Just before you told Bardock to go back to Europe, assuming he was white and in transition all Europe was white...Then, Mindship makes a joke about the french, and you say the whites weren't made fun of.....Are you blinded by hatred that much? That you can't even see whites get crap to?

Alliance
ahh...poor white people cry

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Darth Callous
Where you from, brutha? I'm askin', cuz you seem pretty xenophobic.

Btw: May is Asian History Month and October is Hispanic History Month.

1234

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
It's funny...Just before you told Bardock to go back to Europe, assuming he was white and in transition all Europe was white...Then, Mindship makes a joke about the french, and you say the whites weren't made fun of.....Are you blinded by hatred that much? That you can't even see whites get crap to?

well no cause they are called europeans, and the french are called......... the french so technically there was no whites in there ermm no I wasn't being serious in the begginning but then everyone else started getting serious about the issue so, so did I, you don't get as much crap as we do bud erm

Alliance
White people are SO OPRESSED it makes me SICK. We have to sit around on our high societal thrones listining to people talk about equality and we have to give things to minorities to make sure their voices are heard.

Racism has so ended. You're equal ok? Happy now? Now its all them being racist against us. Everyhting has to be SO special for minorites. F*ck!




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Darth Callous
Originally posted by SpadeKing
and the french are called......... the french so technically there was no whites in there

What the f**k? Are you saying the French aren't white?

Alliance
Originally posted by Darth Callous
What the f**k? Are you saying the French aren't white?

NO! THEY'RE FRENCH G0DAMNN1T! mad





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Darth Callous
laughing out loud

SpadeKing
1234

Alliance
no expression

SpadeKing
Originally posted by Darth Callous
What the f**k? Are you saying the French aren't white?
Originally posted by Alliance
NO! THEY'RE FRENCH G0DAMNN1T! mad





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Alliance
1234

SpadeKing
1234
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Blue nocturne
Originally posted by SpadeKing
um no ask any black person I'm pretty sure its the same answer

I'm black and I disagree with you, your highness laughing

Alliance
1234
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Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by SpadeKing
1234



well no cause they are called europeans, and the french are called......... the french so technically there was no whites in there ermm no I wasn't being serious in the begginning but then everyone else started getting serious about the issue so, so did I, you don't get as much crap as we do bud erm

This view is alien to me... tell, I am of Irish/English decent, am I considered white or not?

§cimitar
When there are more hispanic's in America then White people, can we get minority repartations, programs, etc? Nope, so please, stfu about minority bullshit.

KidRock
I really dont give a shit about minorities and their bitching about how "the white man is holding them down".





as a matter of fact I really dont give a shit about anybody. Does that make me racist?

Black history month..wheres the white history month? Or Asian history month? Pretty racist imo.

§cimitar
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, have you considered going back to Africa? Originally posted by SpadeKing
have you considered going back to Europe ermm Originally posted by Bardock42
Even better, I didn't leave to begin with.

no expression Holy shit, owned.

§cimitar
Oh I love this shit about racist white bosses. I tried to get hired at the local shell station, which is owned by a black person. Everyone on the staff is black. I didn't get the job. Whites aren't the only racists, you ignorant Spics, Nig-nigs, crackers, Frenchies, krauts, and polar bears - z0mg racism!11

Nazgulinthedark
Originally posted by SpadeKing

can anyone say Racist? eek! most of us don't have jobs cause they have racist bosses and company owners, like my uncle who was denied a job cause the owner of the company was a racist, as a matter of fact 2 jobs eek! now he sits home and play games all day cause eh can't get a job cause he's black we're not lazy you're just racist


Could you prove that he was racist? Probably not. Ever consider that your uncle was simple not qualified instead?

Originally posted by SpadeKing
no cause his last five jobs he was fired no expression 1st. he was fired cause of underage. 2nd. fired cause of him being arrested for being around some guy who had drugs in his car and he didn't know he got bailed ermm 3rd. fired for cussing out his boss eek! another racist 4th. fired for falling asleep on the job laughing 5th. fired for license being suspended no expression


Proof that he isn't qualified. no expression Go figure.

grey fox
This idea for 'reparations' is pure bullshit. My grandparents and great grandparents were Londoners. Does this mean I should march over to Germany and declare a reparation for all the problems that happened to my family in ww2 ?

No , although Bardock . I wouldn't Say no to a impartial handout
wink

Nazgulinthedark
Originally posted by grey fox
This idea for 'reparations' is pure bullshit. My grandparents and great grandparents were Londoners. Does this mean I should march over to Germany and declare a reparation for all the problems that happened to my family in ww2 ?

No , although Bardock . I wouldn't Say no to a impartial handout
wink

Hey, maybe I should make you pay me back for all those taxes that England charged back in the 1600s. no expression

grey fox

grey fox
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
Hey, maybe I should make you pay me back for all those taxes that England charged back in the 1600s. no expression

Where are you from ?

Nazgulinthedark
The US.

grey fox
Ahh....a colonial hmmm

*In soup Nazi voice*

NO REPARATIONS FOR YOU !!!

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
The US.

No taxation without representation eh?

Nazgulinthedark
Originally posted by grey fox
Ahh....a colonial hmmm

*In soup Nazi voice*

NO REPARATIONS FOR YOU !!!

laughing out loud Soup Nazi...so funny...hehehe

§cimitar
Originally posted by grey fox
Nig-Nig... ?

That is perhaps the oddest racial insult I've ever heard. Oh and you forgot to add Asian's to your list. So guess what ?

YOUR BEING RACIALLY INSENSITIVE eek! I am such an *******. Sorry, let's add little-dick to the list too. no expression

Just kidding! eek!






ninja

Ushgarak
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
asinine is your comparison little mormon comparison to the worst atrocity that occurred in the US by "Americans".

Not that it is a competition, but I am pretty sure that the 'worst' atrocity was against the Native Americans.

Uh-oh! They kinda got reparations, didn't they? I bet that complicates the issue...

grey fox
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Not that it is a competition, but I am pretty sure that the 'worst' atrocity was against the Native Americans.

Uh-oh! They kinda got reparations, didn't they? I bet that complicates the issue...

What reparations ?

You stole their land and haven't given it back , that isn't reparation.

Ushgarak
I'm British, genius. Two years here not long enough to spot that clearly mentioned on every post I make?

And the reference was to the gambling thing. They got the exemption as part of a way to try and assuage guilt.

Mindship
<--- is cancelling his appearance on Comedy Central.

PVS
Originally posted by grey fox
What reparations ?

You stole their land and haven't given it back , that isn't reparation.

true reparation would be jumping in a time machine and fixing history so that america did not keep slaves. since that is an impropability, true reparation is a pipe dream. and i dont recall stealing anyone's land.

i believe that reparations, applied in a proper manner (not a check in the mail, but through improving their community) are an obligation of a state which forced the underclass to exist and perpetuate. its as logical as cleaning one's own wound imho.

with that said, please put a cork in the "YOU enslaved black people and YOU killed off tribes of natives" etc. its pompous and counterproductive and only serves to present yet another america-bashing artificial moral high ground. the history of all nations is stained with blood of the innocent. deal with that. what matters is that current matters are set straight, or as straight as possible. offering up a circular argument is the polar opposite of a solution, where there is no degree of reparation possible since white american people are evil and twisted and enjoy eating babies and stomping kittens.

Bardock42
Originally posted by SpadeKing
except whites ermm

He meant everyone that it is fun to offend because they are lesser human beings.

Grimm22
If the native americans want reperations go yell at the british stick out tongue

or Canada confused

Because those canuks have nothing better to do big grin

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by C-Dic
Nothing will ever come of this. Just another instance of African American's segregating themselves, straining race relations, and the funny thing is, white people will still get blamed.
Message to all those wanting reparations. **** you. I don't owe you anything.

That episode of "Chappelle's Show" comes to mind, where everyone's granted a reparatons check, and they buy out liquor stores, fried chicken chains, and a dude drives off in a truck full of Newports. laughing out loud



We're (white people) are over it, and don't feel responsible for what we didn't do, and why should we?

It's times like this that I point out that the Jews would NEVER look for reparations from the Germans for what THEY endured, which in retrospect, is just as bad, if not worse. I appreciate the Jewish community being GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THEY HAVE NOW...not looking for state funding, or looking for hand outs because they think they're owed for something they never endured.

Only in America, or, in this case, the United States of Africa.

I have to agree though - only in America indeed. No offence to the Americans...

...

This is soo ridiculous! Salvery was bad, but its over now, so get the hell over it! How many people around the world endured slavery? Millions upon millions upon millions - and some still are. But they dont have the privilage, the time and the freedom of speach to make such stupid demands.

A lot of people were hurt in the past. India has been raped and enslaved and genocides have happened numerious times over, but somehow everyone elses suffering gets thrown in the background...

This is ridicuoous and laugable beyond comprehantion.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Not that it is a competition, but I am pretty sure that the 'worst' atrocity was against the Native Americans.

Uh-oh! They kinda got reparations, didn't they? I bet that complicates the issue...

WEll said. Very well said...

Oh there are only a million of Native Americans left...talk about mass murder...

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Not that it is a competition, but I am pretty sure that the 'worst' atrocity was against the Native Americans.

Uh-oh! They kinda got reparations, didn't they? I bet that complicates the issue...

And i'm pretty sure your wrong. I'm sure most of those natives would've rather have died than be captives have a 300+ year slavery stint and 100 years of segregation afterwards. Live free or die.

Although both were big deals, Black Slavery in the U.S. was a far bigger deal than the native American massacres ever were, for many reasons.

The Native Americans suffered massacres. Black slaves suffered from massacres and more, with ongoing massacres still happening right about about 100 years after the "so called" abolishment of slaves. Hell, it was a crime punishable by death if a Black person look at a white lady just only 55 years ago. Just 55 years ago whites made it illegal for non-whites to drink from the same fountain. That's spiritual massacre. Social massacre.

I'm sure of it.

Grimm22
Aren't reperations one of the causes of WW II and the rise of Nazi facism? confused

Yeah because that worked out so well roll eyes (sarcastic)

Darth Callous
Originally posted by KidRock
Or Asian history month?

May.

Osaka
If anybody in america deserves reperations it's the native americans. They had their land stolen and most of them were killed off.

Grimm22
Originally posted by Osaka
If anybody in america deserves reperations it's the native americans. They had their land stolen and most of them were killed off.

They have casinos no expression

They have already triplpled their reperations stick out tongue

FistOfThe North
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I have to agree though - only in America indeed. No offence to the Americans...

...

This is soo ridiculous! Salvery was bad, but its over now, so get the hell over it!

Oh there are only a million of Native Americans left...talk about mass murder...

Get over it? lmao. Riiight.

White people would love for black to "just forget it happened, to just forget about it". What a crock.

Tell you what, you tell your people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.

But that'll never happen. Racism will be in the U.S. so long as the majority rules.

Osaka
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Get over it? lmao. Riiight.

White people would love for black to "just forget it happened, to just forget about it". What a crock.

Tell you what, you tell your people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.

But that'll never happen. Racism will be in the U.S. so long as the majority rules.

But you were never a slave and neither was any other black person alive today. And there are not any white peoples alive today that was a slave owner.
So why do you think you are owed anything? How would you pay for it? Not everybody in america is either white or black. Are you going to make asians and hispanics pay for your handout too?

I lived in the US for six years and yes there is plenty of racism there but most of the racism I saw didn't come from white people.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by FistOfThe North

Tell you what, you tell your people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.


300 years? Right....America abolished Slavery in 1863...America was founded in 1776....That's not 300 years. no

Now if you want to count colonial slavery, then slaves first came into play by the Spanish in 1526. However, they were not Americans who brought them in, so you really have no right asking for reparations from that.


So in conclusion...Get your facts right before you ask for money...After you do that, then come talk to me...I just might give you a whole five dollars.

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by Grimm22
They have casinos no expression

They have already triplpled their reperations stick out tongue

What, all of them? Or only the few with Casinos?



How on earth is a wound supposed to heal if a person keep picking at it? Yes, there is a scar, yes, the wound can never be forgotten, but really as a culture it is not healthy to dwell on it - better by far to have learned from the bad things that happened, and worked towards stopping bad things happening again - now I am yet to see an actual reason why flooding a sector of US society with cash will somehow magically help with the pain, or improve things. Or in fact do anything of benefit.

Nazgulinthedark
Originally posted by Osaka
I lived in the US for six years and yes there is plenty of racism there but most of the racism I saw didn't come from white people.

Thank you!

Soleran
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Get over it? lmao. Riiight.

White people would love for black to "just forget it happened, to just forget about it". What a crock.

Tell you what, you tell your people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.

But that'll never happen. Racism will be in the U.S. so long as the majority rules.


Wow your right racism is very alive, when's your next rally?

PVS
i love the logic that attrocities against native americans were worse, thus cancelling the argument out. thats great. you jews were lucky back in world war 2, since stalin murdered 5 times as many people.

Osaka
Originally posted by PVS
i love the logic that attrocities against native americans were worse, thus cancelling the argument out. thats great. you jews were lucky back in world war 2, since stalin murdered 5 times as many people.

The atrocities against native americans doesn't cancel anything. The belief that the descendants of those who did commit atrocities owes the descendants of those who suffered from them is what cancels the argument out.

If you would bring that down to an individual level, that would be like the great great grandchild of a murder victim suing the great great grandchild of the murderer in a civil court 100 years after the crime took place.
How absurd would that be to blame all your lifes problems on a person whose great great grandfatehr killed your great great grandfather?

SpadeKing
Originally posted by KidRock
I really dont give a shit about minorities and their bitching about how "the white man is holding them down".





as a matter of fact I really dont give a shit about anybody. Does that make me racist?

Black history month..wheres the white history month? Or Asian history month? Pretty racist imo.

every day is white history month if you haven't noticed cause only during feb. do anything blacks did get attention.

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
Could you prove that he was racist? Probably not. Ever consider that your uncle was simple not qualified instead?



Proof that he isn't qualified. no expression Go figure.

um no cause the qualifications for them were to be in high school atleast he was already in college he was overqualified, anyway the jobs he was denied from only had 1 black person both of them, and 1 mexican at one job, the rest of the staff was white.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm black and I disagree with you, your highness laughing

you're differnt no expression

SpadeKing
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Get over it? lmao. Riiight.

White people would love for black to "just forget it happened, to just forget about it". What a crock.

Tell you what, you tell your people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.

But that'll never happen. Racism will be in the U.S. so long as the majority rules.

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KidRock
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Get over it? lmao. Riiight.

White people would love for black to "just forget it happened, to just forget about it". What a crock.

Tell you what, you tell people to stop being racist and we may forget about the 300+ years plus 100 extra of segregation.

But that'll never happen. Racism will be in the U.S. so long as the majority rules.

YOUR NOT GETTING MY MONEY!!! GO FIND A JOB!


Also maybe white people will stop being racist if you set a good example and stop being racist yourself.

Originally posted by SpadeKing

anyway the jobs he was denied from only had 1 black person both of them, and 1 mexican at one job, the rest of the staff was white.





Ok..so they are racist...but they have black and mexican people working for them? I understand now..

Regret
Didn't Bill Cosby make comments about this subject?

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