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Who's the best h2h in the Marvel universe and the DC universe?

look at my sig nuff said.

Marvel: Captain America Or Wolverine
DC: Batman or Deathstroke

Originally posted by Sea King
look at my sig nuff said.

Two words: Karate Kid.

1. KK

2. Champion

3. Batgirl

4.Cap/Bats

5. Lady Shiva

darkclaw.... he'd kick anybodies as in h2h combat...

The top streeth levelers are the most skilled in comics= Richard Dragon, Iron Fist, Cap, Shang Chi, Karate Kid, Shiva.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Two words: Karate Kid. is he good at judo r something?!?!?

Galactus *Rolls Eyes*

Originally posted by Validus


it was a bit of a joke.

Karate Kid.

And no, not the movie. But feel free to insert a Mr. Miyagi joke if you absolutely need to.

Shang Chi, Richard Dragon, Iron Fist, Shiva, Captain America, Batgirl, Batman, Wolverine, Elektra in no particular order

Originally posted by marvelprince
Shang Chi, Richard Dragon, Iron Fist, Shiva, Captain America, Batgirl, Batman, Wolverine, Elektra in no particular order


Add Karate Kid to that and I agree with that list

Originally posted by willRules
Add Karate Kid to that and I agree with that list

Right, how could I have forgotten about him

Originally posted by bigbran
is he good at judo r something?!?!?

doh

1.Karate Kid
2.Richard Dragon
3.Batgirl
4.Shang Chi
5.Deathstroke
6.Captain America
7.Daredevil
8.Batman
9.Iron Fist
10.Wolverine

Where the hell is Black Panther and Karnak.........

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Where the hell is Black Panther and Karnak.........

They don't belong on the list, except maybe Karnak.

Originally posted by batdude123
They don't belong on the list, except maybe Karnak.


Riiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhhttttttttt

Originally posted by olympian
The top streeth levelers are the most skilled in comics= Richard Dragon, Iron Fist, Cap, Shang Chi, Karate Kid, Shiva.
Val isn't street level.

Val is just short of cosmic, if anything.

shouldn't gamora be on this list?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
1.Karate Kid
2.Richard Dragon
3.Batgirl
4.Shang Chi
5.Deathstroke
6.Captain America
7.Daredevil
8.Batman
9.Iron Fist
10.Wolverine

Taskmaster recently schooled Cap'n America in a street fight.... he's also beaten Shang Chi

recently? where at?

and he EASILY beat the cat...

Originally posted by jinzin
recently? where at?

and he EASILY beat the cat...


Black panther also dropped Capt, bested wolverine, bested spiderman, was besting iron fist until he found out they were mind controled, killed sabretooth in a few moves whom wolverine seems to have trouble with, and alot more.

i'm fairly certain the only blackpanther that's bested cap was BP senior....

the only time I remember those two fighting was during contest of champions 2 and capt won it...

and again.. not so sure i'd be using HOM as accurate examples of anything.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Taskmaster recently schooled Cap'n America in a street fight.... he's also beaten Shang Chi where at??

Gamora and Mantis should definately be on the list.

Taskmaster's most recent appearances are at the end of last issue of Moon Knight and in the Spider-woman Origins mini. Unless I missed something he hasn't fought Cap recently and I dont think he has never fought Shang Chi.

i love you all knowing s-rank

Originally posted by jinzin
recently? where at?

and he EASILY beat the cat...
Originally posted by King KAM
where at??

In the recent Power Pack comics

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Taskmaster's most recent appearances are at the end of last issue of Moon Knight and in the Spider-woman Origins mini. Unless I missed something he hasn't fought Cap recently and I dont think he has never fought Shang Chi.

Turns out i meant the Cat... Not Shang Chi .... my bad

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1557/taskmastercat4fv.jpg

Oh right Avengers and Power Pack Assemble #1

Scoob is right Tasky did thrash Cap (owned him and stole his shield) but none of these current Power Pack (X-Men and Avenger) issues are in continuity. Entertaining fight and unlike his Moonknight appearance Tasky has his new practical costume check it out if you can

Still Taskmaster has put Cap down and tied him before.

Taskmaster is a low level Karate Kid in away.

All Taskmaster needs to do is watch a video tape of the best in action and its all over for them.

Taskmaster is a great character, he was long been a favourite of mine. That being said he doesn't have the initaitive to be number one. Could he potentially be the best? Sure but it isn't in his nature. He likes to play it cool and causual and if possible make a timely get away rather then exert him self.


... and Mr. X kicked his ass.

Mr. X would take any of these guys really.

His telepathy is what makes him win, not so much his actual ability in fighting.

They had Taskmaster play it stupid though.

He was always on the attack rather then being defensive.

Plus he can make himself faster which they seemed to leave out which would've helped him land hits.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Mr. X would take any of these guys really.

His telepathy is what makes him win, not so much his actual ability in fighting.

They had Taskmaster play it stupid though.

He was always on the attack rather then being defensive.

Plus he can make himself faster which they seemed to leave out which would've helped him land hits.

Mr. X has some degree of superspeed as well.

And this was before Tasky's mini series which means before he knew he could boost his speed.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
Still Taskmaster has put Cap down and tied him before.

Taskmaster is a low level Karate Kid in away.

All Taskmaster needs to do is watch a video tape of the best in action and its all over for them. ive read both of their fights, and the cap has beat him in both.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Mr. X has some degree of superspeed as well.

And this was before Tasky's mini series which means before he knew he could boost his speed.


He always knew he could boost his speed.

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beatingspidermanstraightup28rw.jpg


The mini was the first time he ever made note of doing that takes a toll on his body, which I think is BS.

That mini was awesome, but the writers I don't think really gave a damn about doing research on him.

Originally posted by King KAM
ive read both of their fights, and the cap has beat him in both.

He beat him as much as a villian is alound to in his first appearance and the other was a tie.

Taskmaster by default has the speed and agility of Daredevil/Spider-man. His speed amping ability is something else all together which put his speed on the level where he can speed blitz bullet timers. My theory on this ability is that is a result of Taskmaster's limited ability to amp his stats with chi. The strain on his body resulting from his inexperience with using chi and the fact the he learnt how to use chi with out ever condition his body or mind for the process but just copied it.

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
He beat him as much as a villian is alound to in his first appearance and the other was a tie. Cap dropped him, he just grabbed cap on his way falling into the water.


and i couldve sworn ive seen a third fight, can anyone tell me where this is from??? http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=page116fq.jpg

it's in wolverine issue 168 or 169.. during the bloodsport arc..

Originally posted by jinzin
it's in wolverine issue 168 or 169.. during the bloodsport arc.. thanks jinzi poo

Originally posted by ST0RM SHAD0W
He always knew he could boost his speed.

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beatingspidermanstraightup28rw.jpg

"Within Limitations" .... he's not as fast as Spider-Man... just as fast as a non-powered human can be while copying Spider-Man

Originally posted by Scoobless
"Within Limitations" .... he's not as fast as Spider-Man... just as fast as a non-powered human can be while copying Spider-Man

yeah but you could also rationalize that he said spiderman's speed and agility were INCLUDED (i.e. "including" within his limitations...

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah but you could also rationalize that he said spiderman's speed and agility were INCLUDED (i.e. "including" within his limitations...

I guess that also means that if he saw Superman fly and use heat vision he could do it too.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Taskmaster by default has the speed and agility of Daredevil/Spider-man.


I don't think Taskmaster is anywhere near spidey's speed or agility, just the same fighting style

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t411899.html

(scroll down to the scans called "defeats taskmaster again"

In these scans Agent X defeats taskmaster and dodges a spider-man esque attack. I know for a fact Agent X is nowhere near spidey's speed. in one of these scans he even says that Taskmaster aint spidey (He says this after kicking taskmasters tushy)

Originally posted by marvelprince
I guess that also means that if he saw Superman fly and use heat vision he could do it too.


I now have a mental image of Taskmaster jumping around alot and straining his eyes intently

Agent X beat Taskmaster for the same reason Mr. X did. Because of the being made with part of Black Swans mind/personality he subconsciously a telepath. So not only was Agent X able to predict Taskmaster's next move but his mental powers also inhibited the use of Taskmaster's own abilities.

Also physically Agent X = Deadpool (more or less... mostly less but its close). Deadpool is superhuman across the board with agility and speed to rival Spider-man's own.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Agent X beat Taskmaster for the same reason Mr. X did. Because of the being made with part of Black Swans mind/personality he is a telepath. So not only was Agent X able to predict Taskmaster's next move but his mental powers also inhibited the use of Taskmaster's own abilities.

Also physically Agent X = Deadpool (more or less... mostly less but its close). Deadpool is superhuman across the board with agility and speed to rival Spider-man's own.


ok fair enough that Agent X could beat taskmaster due to his connection to black swan (Although I don't think that's been confirmed) , but spidey is way stronger faster physically superior etc to Deadpool

Originally posted by willRules
but spidey is way stronger faster physically superior etc to Deadpool

Deadpool has an undefined amount of superhuman strength, his utmost capabilities have never been defined but Spider-man is likely much stronger. His he faster? Maybe. Is his speed edge significant enough for it to make a difference? No.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Deadpool has an undefined amount of superhuman strength, his utmost capabilities have never been defined but Spider-man is likely much stronger. His he faster? Maybe. Is his speed edge significant enough for it to make a difference? No.

I disagree. Spidey was easily dodging things like lasers waaayyy back before Deadpool could barely dodge characters like T-Ray or was getting stabbed by Bullseye