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Shine on you crazy diamond.

I just heard about it.


The music world just lost one of its greatest musicians.

shine on

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Shine on you crazy diamond.

*syd

I know, its shocking really.. 60 years old.. he was such a legend, what a sad way to die... but his music will still live on.

Originally posted by -Tired Hiker-
Shine on you crazy diamond.




music has lost another great soul. we won't forget

R.I.P.

LONDON (AP) - Syd Barrett, the troubled Pink Floyd co-founder who spent his last years in reclusive anonymity, has died, the band said Tuesday. He was 60.

A spokeswoman for the band said Barrett died several days ago, but she did not disclose the cause of death. Barrett had suffered from diabetes for years.

The surviving members of Pink Floyd - David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Roger Waters and Richard Wright - said they were "very upset and sad to learn of Syd Barrett's death."

"Syd was the guiding light of the early band lineup and leaves a legacy which continues to inspire," they said in a statement.

Barrett co-founded Pink Floyd in 1965 with Waters, Mason and Wright, and wrote many of the band's early songs. The group's jazz-infused rock and drug-laced, multimedia "happenings" made them darlings of the London psychedelic scene. The 1967 album "The Piper at the Gates of Dawn" - largely written by Barrett, who also played guitar - was a commercial and critical hit.

But Barrett suffered from mental instability, exacerbated by his use of LSD. His behavior grew increasingly erratic, and he left the group in 1968 - five years before the release of Pink Floyd's most popular album, "Dark Side of the Moon" - to be replaced by Gilmour.

Barrett released two solo albums - "The Madcap Laughs" and "Barrett" - but soon withdrew from the music business altogether. An album of previously unreleased material, "Opel," was issued in 1988.

He reverted to his real name, Roger Barrett, and spent much of the rest of his life living quietly in his hometown of Cambridge, England. Moving into his mother's suburban house, he passed the time painting and tending the garden. His former bandmates made sure Barrett continued to receive royalties from his work with Pink Floyd.

He was a familiar figure to neighbors, often seen cycling or walking to the corner store, but rarely spoke to the fans and journalists who sought him out over the years.

Despite his brief career, Barrett's fragile, wistful songs influenced many musicians, from David Bowie - who covered the Barrett track "See Emily Play" - to the other members of Pink Floyd, who recorded the album "Wish You Were Here" as a tribute to their troubled bandmate.

It contained the song "Shine On You Crazy Diamond" - "Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun." The band also dwelt on themes of mental illness on the albums "Dark Side of the Moon" and "The Wall."

The band spokeswoman said a small, private funeral would be held.

sYd. at least have the decency to spell his name right.

I hate it when musicians die.
R.I.P. Syd.

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom,
blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter,
come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions,
come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!
Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Pile on many more layers and I'll be joining you there.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
And we'll bask in the shadow of yesterday's triumph,
sail on the steel breeze.
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser,
come on you miner for truth and delusion, and shine

RIP Syd

God Bless Syd The Nutter.

Originally posted by StinkFist462
sYd. at least have the decency to spell his name right.

Thats what I said

Originally posted by Joseph_Kerr
Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom,
blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter,
come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions,
come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!
Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Pile on many more layers and I'll be joining you there.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
And we'll bask in the shadow of yesterday's triumph,
sail on the steel breeze.
Come on you boy child, you winner and loser,
come on you miner for truth and delusion, and shine

RIP Syd

And do something like:

Arnold Layne had a strange hobby
Collecting clothes
Moonshine washing line
They suit him fine

On the wall hung a tall mirror
Distorted view, see through baby blue
He dug it
Oh, Arnold Layne
It's not the same, takes two to know
Two to know, two to know, two to know
Why can't you see?

Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne

Now he's caught - a nasty sort of person.
They gave him time
Doors bang - chain gang - he hates it

Oh, Arnold Layne
It's not the same, takes two to know
Two to know, two to know, two to know
Why can't you see?

Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne, Arnold Layne
Don't do it again.

He wasn't even in the band when they made their best music.

Chill out. As soon as someone dies, they become the greatest at something. How about we recognise what they actually did, before we do that?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He wasn't even in the band when they made their best music.

Chill out. As soon as someone dies, they become the greatest at something. How about we recognise what they actually did, before we do that?

-AC

As if we didnt? Wtf do you mean he wasnt in the band when they made their best music? Syd Barret is a hero to me, he made Arnold Layne, which is the best Pink Floyd song, he made bike, see emily play, jugband blues, scarecrow and countless others... since when did we say he was the greatest? Thats rather naive of you, all we were doing was mourning the passing away of one of musics greatest legends.. its not wrong..

Originally posted by rickyduck
As if we didnt? Wtf do you mean he wasnt in the band when they made their best music? Syd Barret is a hero to me, he made Arnold Layne, which is the best Pink Floyd song, he made bike, see emily play, jugband blues, scarecrow and countless others... since when did we say he was the greatest? Thats rather naive of you, all we were doing was mourning the passing away of one of musics greatest legends.. its not wrong..

He was hardly one of the world's greatest musicians. A legend by reputation, maybe. He spent decades as a mentally-wrecked recluse. He wasn't a current anything, so I don't see why he's been addressed as such. How many of you hailed him or loved him before he died? I've never seen him mentioned in this forum.

He was replaced by David Gilmour, who is better than Barrett was anyway.

-AC

gilmour may be better, but Syd was the Basis for the band itself, with out Syd, there would be no Pink Floyd. And Syds solo stuff wasnt that bad
bye Shine On

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He was hardly one of the world's greatest musicians. A legend by reputation, maybe. He spent decades as a mentally-wrecked recluse. He wasn't a current anything, so I don't see why he's been addressed as such. How many of you hailed him or loved him before he died? I've never seen him mentioned in this forum.

He was replaced by David Gilmour, who is better than Barrett was anyway.

-AC

thats rather naive of you aswell, He was one of the greatest musicians ever, as he was DIFFERENT to all the music that was out then, influencing many artists. So what if he was a mental wreck? Cobain commited suicide and was a druggy, but was still considered one of the best musicians ever. He has been mentioned in this forum, and the only reason this thread was made was because he died! If someones (on this forum) relative died, or friend, they would state it, if a footballer died, they would state it, and David Gilmour is better in some aspects but not in others. I dont think you should take musicians like that for granted, its rather ignorant of you..

He didnt spend decades as a recluse, mentally wrecked maybe, but only the last few years as a recluse.. I just think its rather stupid that you can say all that..

Originally posted by pinkfloydkor
with out Syd, there would be no Pink Floyd.

I perish the thought...

Originally posted by rickyduck
thats rather naive of you aswell, He was one of the greatest musicians ever, as he was DIFFERENT to all the music that was out then, influencing many artists. So what if he was a mental wreck? Cobain commited suicide and was a druggy, but was still considered one of the best musicians ever. He has been mentioned in this forum, and the only reason this thread was made was because he died! If someones (on this forum) relative died, or friend, they would state it, if a footballer died, they would state it, and David Gilmour is better in some aspects but not in others. I dont think you should take musicians like that for granted, its rather ignorant of you..

He didnt spend decades as a recluse, mentally wrecked maybe, but only the last few years as a recluse.. I just think its rather stupid that you can say all that..

I'm not saying being a mental-wreck is something I held against him, because it's not, but when was the last time he contributed anything at all to music? Seriously. His solo work? Hardly anything special. He did things with Pink Floyd that many people love, but they're not exactly Rush, putting out album after album of great quality, consistant music, somewhat regularly. He wasn't even with them for Dark Side of the Moon.

I don't care what you think is stupid, I know enough about music to have an opinion on the matter. What's he getting credit for? A couple of famous songs? Forming the most name-dropped, overrated and pretentious band in British rock history? That doesn't constitute being called one of the greatest musicians ever. If you liked what he did, then say it, but calling him one of the greatest musicians ever puts him in a catagory with people he doesn't deserve to be with.

-AC

Greatest Musician ever. He will be sadly missed. R.I.P. Syt Berret

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I perish the thought...



I'm not saying being a mental-wreck is something I held against him, because it's not, but when was the last time he contributed anything at all to music? Seriously. His solo work? Hardly anything special. He did things with Pink Floyd that many people love, but they're not exactly Rush, putting out album after album of great quality, consistant music, somewhat regularly. He wasn't even with them for Dark Side of the Moon.

I don't care what you think is stupid, I know enough about music to have an opinion on the matter. What's he getting credit for? A couple of famous songs? Forming the most name-dropped, overrated and pretentious band in British rock history? That doesn't constitute being called one of the greatest musicians ever. If you liked what he did, then say it, but calling him one of the greatest musicians ever puts him in a catagory with people he doesn't deserve to be with.

-AC

then what is one of the greatest musicians ever? You obviously do hold the fact that hes a mental wreck against him, and they are not overrated, they're just skilled.. 50 cents overrated.. he wasnt with them for DSOTM because he was in a mental institute...

Pink Floyd wouldn't have been without Syd. Roger Waters would be creating buildings if it wasn't for him. And we wouldn't have a lot of bands these days without the Floyd. Many bands were influenced by Pink Floyd, and of course we have to give props to Syd and Roger for making one of the greatest and influential bands ever.

I dont care what you people have to say. He was a great musician and he will be missed. After Waters left Pink Floyd, when it was just Gilmour on the front, it was not the same. In fact, (IMO) The Division Bell is their worst CD. And I've always been a fan of The Piper (Pink Floyd's First). I know he hasn't done much, but a death is a death. If it was a relative that you had no idea existed died, you'd go to the funeral. So thats how i feel about Syd Barret's death. I cant say he will be missed, because he was insane so no one really knew what was going on. But if you can stand there and tell me that he had nothing to do with the way music is these days, then you can just go to hell.

R.I.P

Originally posted by rickyduck
then what is one of the greatest musicians ever? You obviously do hold the fact that hes a mental wreck against him, and they are not overrated, they're just skilled.. 50 cents overrated.. he wasnt with them for DSOTM because he was in a mental institute...

I told you I don't hold it against him, so you can either accept that or you can shut up about it, first of all. Don't be so ignorant as to overlook a reasonable response.

Furthermore, Hendrix is one of the greatest musicians ever, Prince is one of the greatest musicians ever, Syd Barrett formed a band and wrote some songs that people liked. So did many.

Oh, and yes Pink Floyd are overrated.

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
Pink Floyd wouldn't have been without Syd. Roger Waters would be creating buildings if it wasn't for him. And we wouldn't have a lot of bands these days without the Floyd. Many bands were influenced by Pink Floyd, and of course we have to give props to Syd and Roger for making one of the greatest and influential bands ever.

A) We don't have to give props to anyone we don't wish to give props to.

B) That's bullshit rationale, that whole "We wouldn't have today's bands if we didn't have Floyd/Zeppelin/The Beatles" etc. I'm not denying that they were influential, but if you do your research you'll see that many people form bands and then discover influences. Not the other way around.

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
I dont care what you people have to say. He was a great musician and he will be missed. After Waters left Pink Floyd, when it was just Gilmour on the front, it was not the same. In fact, (IMO) The Division Bell is their worst CD. And I've always been a fan of The Piper (Pink Floyd's First). I know he hasn't done much, but a death is a death. If it was a relative that you had no idea existed died, you'd go to the funeral. So thats how i feel about Syd Barret's death. I cant say he will be missed, because he was insane so no one really knew what was going on. But if you can stand there and tell me that he had nothing to do with the way music is these days, then you can just go to hell.

I don't care that you don't care, it's not up to you. If you like his music, if you LOVE his music, that's fine, but putting him in the catagory of greatest musician is to put him with the likes of Hendrix. If you believe he is that good, then YOU can go to hell, because you know absolutely nothing. Second, he hasn't done much, exactly. So appreciate what he has done, wrote a couple of famous songs that a lot of people love. Big deal, so did Trent Reznor, he's not one of the greatest musicians ever.

Why are you now attempting to tell me what I would and wouldn't do if a relative died? There are a great many funerals I've avoided because I don't consider the people family. I put things in perspective, and so should you.

He has a lot less to do with music than you are proposing, that's a fact. You really love Pink Floyd, that's pretty and everything, but there's no massively prominent musicians today that can be pointed out to sound like, have the writing likenesses of, or holding the influence of Syd Barrett. Liking someone doesn't mean you're influenced by them.

If he didn't die, you'd not be saying all this. I've never seen you mention Barrett before, so in my eyes you're no different than the Cobain-bandwagonners.

-AC

Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom,
blown on the steel breeze.
Come on you target for faraway laughter,
come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr, and shine!
You reached for the secret too soon, you cried for the moon.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Threatened by shadows at night, and exposed in the light.
Shine on you crazy diamond.
Well you wore out your welcome with random precision,
rode on the steel breeze.
Come on you raver, you seer of visions,
come on you painter, you piper, you prisoner, and shine!

How DARE you say that Pink Floyd is overrated. That makes no sense whatsoever! Explain how they are overrated. I want 3 reasons

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I told you I don't hold it against him, so you can either accept that or you can shut up about it, first of all. Don't be so ignorant as to overlook a reasonable response.

Furthermore, Hendrix is one of the greatest musicians ever, Prince is one of the greatest musicians ever, Syd Barrett formed a band and wrote some songs that people liked. So did many.

Oh, and yes Pink Floyd are overrated.



A) We don't have to give props to anyone we don't wish to give props to.

B) That's bullshit rationale, that whole "We wouldn't have today's bands if we didn't have Floyd/Zeppelin/The Beatles" etc. I'm not denying that they were influential, but if you do your research you'll see that many people form bands and then discover influences. Not the other way around.



I don't care that you don't care, it's not up to you. If you like his music, if you LOVE his music, that's fine, but putting him in the catagory of greatest musician is to put him with the likes of Hendrix. If you believe he is that good, then YOU can go to hell, because you know absolutely nothing. Second, he hasn't done much, exactly. So appreciate what he has done, wrote a couple of famous songs that a lot of people love. Big deal, so did Trent Reznor, he's not one of the greatest musicians ever.

Why are you now attempting to tell me what I would and wouldn't do if a relative died? There are a great many funerals I've avoided because I don't consider the people family. I put things in perspective, and so should you.

He has a lot less to do with music than you are proposing, that's a fact. You really love Pink Floyd, that's pretty and everything, but there's no massively prominent musicians today that can be pointed out to sound like, have the writing likenesses of, or holding the influence of Syd Barrett. Liking someone doesn't mean you're influenced by them.

If he didn't die, you'd not be saying all this. I've never seen you mention Barrett before, so in my eyes you're no different than the Cobain-bandwagonners.

-AC All right. No need to get all worked up.

Well for one, it's individual members are overrated. Nick Mason and David Gilmour always get way too much credit, and then there's this thread.

Second, they are constantly hailed as one of the greatest bands ever, and they are just not. There aren't even in the top 10 best British bands ever, in my opinion (I know, how can I possibly say that?! Deal with it), but best ever? So laughable it could be a comedian's material.

Third, despite obviously being educated men, they're not as educated and intelligent as everyone thinks they are. The lyrics are remarkably basic when compared with how people are rating them, so is the music.

All things considered, I laugh at how upset you're getting.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
All right. No need to get all worked up.

Typical response from someone who didn't think before he posted. Second, I didn't, but then again, I'm not the one who told me to go to hell because I denied Pink Floyd the massively undeserved credit you're giving them.

Maybe you shouldn't get so worked up next time, junior.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Typical response from someone who didn't think before he posted. Second, I didn't, but then again, I'm not the one who told me to go to hell because I denied Pink Floyd the massively undeserved credit you're giving them.

Maybe you shouldn't get so worked up next time, junior.

-AC Allright

I guess its the fact that you come into a thread obviuosly about the death of a respected (by us, at least) musicain, and all you want to do is tell us he wasn't all that great. Thanks, but no thanks.

Then who the hell do you think are some of the greatest bands ever? WTF!?

Originally posted by pinkfloydkor
Then who the hell do you think are some of the greatest bands ever? WTF!? I'm going to side with AC on this one, there are MANY.....COUNTLESS number of bands that are better than pink floyd.

Im not saying that Pink Floyd is the greatest band, sorry if it seemed like that, but there is no doubt that they are a great band and are not overrated. Mabey you dont like the music, but that doesnt mean they are not good. Anyway, lets end this argument. AC, if you dont like Syd, why are even posting in this thread? The title is RIP Syd Barrett confused1

Originally posted by pinkfloydkor
Then who the hell do you think are some of the greatest bands ever? WTF!?

It doesn't matter what bands I like, what matters is that they're not one of the greatest bands ever, since that's what we're discussing.

Originally posted by pinkfloydkor
Im not saying that Pink Floyd is the greatest band, sorry if it seemed like that, but there is no doubt that they are a great band and are not overrated. Mabey you dont like the music, but that doesnt mean they are not good.

I don't think they're anything special at all. I think they're a name that people think they have to drop in order to have credibility nowadays, that's it.

They're not overrated because I don't like the music, they are overrated because they are continually labelled as one of the greatest bands ever, one of the smartest and most influential bands ever, they're not. There are many bands I don't like that I don't think are overrated, overrating is specific and it applies to Pink Floyd.

-AC

Floyd is Overrated,
But I disagree, Most overrated and named-dropped British band ever?
Beatles have that catagory all wrapped up...

But yea, lets not overstate his influence here guys...
Now my first reaction when I heard this was, He was in Floyd?? Really?
And I imagine thats most people's responses as well.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Floyd is Overrated,
But I disagree, Most overrated and named-dropped British band ever?
Beatles have that catagory all wrapped up...

But yea, lets not overstate his influence here guys...
Now my first reaction when I heard this was, He was in Floyd?? Really?
And I imagine thats most people's responses as well. Unless you're actually a fan of Pink Floyd, or have listened to their whole music career and not from DSOTM or The Wall. Those are just small points compared to their whole career.

But yeah, Beatles are way overrated. When people say that that is an influential band, thats when i get worked up into a tizzy like AC.

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
Unless you're actually a fan of Pink Floyd, or have listened to their whole music career and not from DSOTM or The Wall. Those are just small points compared to their whole career.

Thank you, those are complete opinions, and so are mine for that matter, but I can admit it

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Floyd is Overrated,
But I disagree, Most overrated and named-dropped British band ever?
Beatles have that catagory all wrapped up...

But yea, lets not overstate his influence here guys...
Now my first reaction when I heard this was, He was in Floyd?? Really?
And I imagine thats most people's responses as well.

At least with The Beatles they had some massive appeal and even if you disagree you can see why people get carried away. What did Pink Floyd do besides laser-beam (literally) people into thinking they were some epic musical epiphany?

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
Unless you're actually a fan of Pink Floyd, or have listened to their whole music career and not from DSOTM or The Wall. Those are just small points compared to their whole career.

It doesn't matter, overrating isn't about opinion, it's about fact. There is specific criteria. I can prove that U2 are overrated, overrated doesn't mean shit...it means overrated. It has nothing to do with if you like them or not, you liking them doesn't mean they're not overrated, me disliking them doesn't mean they are. What does? The fact that they are overrated, and that's not an opinion.

Constantly referred to as one of the best bands ever in every sense? Yes, overrating.

Originally posted by ~Da Rev~
But yeah, Beatles are way overrated. When people say that that is an influential band, thats when i get worked up into a tizzy like AC.

You're the only one who believes I was worked up into a tizzy just because I replied, whilst also using the trademark smiley decoy. It's honestly not my fault you can't back it.

More so, The Beatles are influential, just nowhere near as much as people would say.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At least with The Beatles they had some massive appeal and even if you disagree you can see why people get carried away. What did Pink Floyd do besides laser-beam (literally) people into thinking they were some epic musical epiphany?



It doesn't matter, overrating isn't about opinion, it's about fact. There is specific criteria. I can prove that U2 are overrated, overrated doesn't mean shit...it means overrated. It has nothing to do with if you like them or not, you liking them doesn't mean they're not overrated, me disliking them doesn't mean they are. What does? The fact that they are overrated, and that's not an opinion.

Constantly referred to as one of the best bands ever in every sense? Yes, overrating.



You're the only one who believes I was worked up into a tizzy just because I replied, whilst also using the trademark smiley decoy. It's honestly not my fault you can't back it.

More so, The Beatles are influential, just nowhere near as much as people would say.

-AC I was only joking with you.

I Knew i should have ended that with a ""

And yes, U2 pisses me off. Just to go off into a tangent for no specific reason.

Wait, where did i talk about them being "overrated"

Yeah I heard the news yesterday morning. It's really sad, considering he was a big influence for being part of Pink Floyd for less than 5 years. I like the participation he put into "Wish You Were Here." I think I'll have to lsiten to his part more carefully to hear what he did. He'll be sorely missed by so many people.

Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
http://www.napster.com/player/tracks/13183334

ok people, much like when Dimebag died, keep the arguments about whether you liked the band in another thread, this is respecting the memory of Syd Barret not bitching about whether Pink Floyd are the best band blah blah blah. Bit of respect please.

who cares if they're overrated or not if you like the music?

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
who cares if they're overrated or not if you like the music?

No one should. I thought Trivium had an ok album in Ascendancy, but the fact that it's overrated to sickening degrees is factual, more or less.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No one should. I thought Trivium had an ok album in Ascendancy, but the fact that it's overrated to sickening degrees is factual, more or less.

-AC

yeah, true

"Our old friend Syd, who needed, another light in his eye
and a spring in his step" - David Gilmour