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The biggest BS story I have ever heard

I don't see why he couldn't. It's not like that one feat made such an impact on any storylines any way.

its not a matter of beleiveing. He did it...

and if your gonna go question whether or not its possible...is it really possible for a man to fly? or have super powers?

A black Hole as far as gravity has the pull of hundreds of suns that is the BS about it.. Superman is not close to that power. Superman would have to fly faster then light to escape it's pull and even then it's not for sured he could do it then...

Black Hole's bend the fabric of space...

Black Hole- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole

The black hole was small. their power also depends on size. and superman has outflown a blackhole before too. he dont mess around

If real human scientists can theoretically create and maintain (teeny-weeny) black holes in their very nonKryptonian machines, certainly the Man 'o Steel can do it, even with less-teeny-weeny holes.

A black hole's (proportionally) immense gravity is has to do with its density in relation to its size, not just absolute mass. Red supergiant stars have tremendous mass but low density, hence they are not black holes. Conversely, if you compress a human being into a small enough radius, you can create a black hole.

Not to mention it wasn't fully released when he grabbed it.

No.

I am sorry it's canon bs plot device garbage

Originally posted by golem370
I am sorry it's canon bs plot device garbage
Well, duh. So is 95% pf every thing else that happens in a comic. Stuff like this happens all the time in comics, because, well, they're comics.

There's no point in getting worked up over it.

Guys I keep telling you. Superman is the most overwritten, abused character in the history of "anything" LOL Im sure he could do anything if his writers deemed it so. It's called PIS(Plot Induced Stupidity) Just like Superman is suppose to have 1000 years of martial arts experience, yet he has never done any martial arts in movies or comics. That is why his character is kinda gay. One minute he's hurt by kryptonite, next minute he's immune to it. Plus there's like 6 different Supermen(Prime,Allstar, Post Crisis, Pre Crisis, etc) It's ridiculous.

If this happened pre-crisis, it's not canon anymore. It goes in the closet with the super-weaving.

Originally posted by golem370
I am sorry it's canon bs plot device garbage
No it wasn't. Of course it was a bit exaggerated, but well, we are talking about comics after all.

Superman holding a (tiny) black hole in his hand for a very short time gives us a good idea of his awesome strength.

Hulk can't do such a thing. Martian Manhunter can't do it, Thanos can't do it...

superman can do anything

Of course he doesn't in the movies. Superman doesn't know martial arts in them. Look in the superman respect thread, there are instances of him using martial arts against opponents.



Only if you read his comics out of order. Superman has steadily been gaining resistance to Kryptonite over the last few years. It's not like one issue it drops him and the next it doesn't.

Is it so hard to except this feat? Even I can think of a pseudo scientific answer. Using his ability to manipulate Gravitons, Superman focuses his solar reserves into cancelling out the Black holes gravity. See? That makes sense in a comic booky way.

I agree, good one.

Originally posted by chase el
superman can do anything

Like it or not it happend. Superman held a mini-black hole from releasing in his hands. Anyways here is the scan for anybody who hasn't seen it yet.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg

Originally posted by golem370
The biggest BS story I have ever heard
No friend. That would be Hulk overcoming matter and anti-matter.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4739/11515646571383id.th.jpg
Boom.

What does this have to do with Superman?

the very fact that a blackhole is intangible like a tornado indicates that it cannot be "held" in any manner...

so all that compressed mass in a black hole is intangible?

Originally posted by who?-kid
No it wasn't. Of course it was a bit exaggerated, but well, we are talking about comics after all.

Superman holding a (tiny) black hole in his hand for a very short time gives us a good idea of his awesome strength.

Hulk can't do such a thing. Martian Manhunter can't do it, Thanos can't do it...

Rigth. Hulk has only survived the matter and antimatter forces, clapped a freaking cosmos and grabbed energy.

"only".

Acess is rigth. It is a crazy feat but so is 80% of feats out there. And considering DC seems to push him to pre crisis levels, expect more.

Hell, IM with all the upgrades recently still lost to Sentry and the figth didnt even took long. See how it is? You also have the Wolverine feat (that was posted because its an absurd feat. And thats what the thread is all about anyway).

Its crazy to both sides.

Originally posted by olympian
Acess is rigth. It is a crazy feat but so is 80% of feats out there. And considering DC seems to push him to pre crisis levels, expect more.



Exactly, it seems it will soon become the norm.

The comics are so GAY! LOL YOu guys have to understand. It is what the writers DO! But at the same time, all of us aren't STUPID, well atleast most of us! Ill give you an example. Let's say a writer does a comic where Spiderman whips the Hulks ASS! Yeah, it is written, but we all know.........there is NO WAY he could even have a chance! Understand? These writers are mostly idiots and superfanboys and as I've said. Superman is the most abused overly written character ever! He was trained by Wonder Woman and Batman? And he has a 1000 years of martial arts abilility? So makes him a master of martial arts too? PIS.........that is all it is. Superman would get sucked into a black hole and DIE! Just like anyone else! lol

How does Superman most powerful feats compare to these? http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7008/blastaar7os.jpg http://img153.exs.cx/img153/8827/fortress8xe.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1226/beyonder6ca.jpg
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7558/galaxymaster29qf.jpg
http://img219.echo.cx/img219/9757/featstimestorm9qs.jpg
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/5448/stranger37cy.jpg
http://img60.echo.cx/img60/7139/durabilityminigbomb1bn.jpg
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/8765/durabilityantimatter4fg.jpg
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/4783/genis5qn.jpg
http://img192.exs.cx/img192/89/durabilitykarnak6xb.jpg
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3213/onslaughtcontrol5vt.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/1079/anext1d5fi.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/8840/anext1o8dm.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/7118/anext1p3xd.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/5605/anext1s6hj.jpg

Hulk vs. Captain Mar-Vell (Credit to Thorion for the original scans.)

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7055/marvell1a4ov.jpg

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1b0mh.jpg

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/8884/marvell1c5gg.jpg

How about this?

I would say that Hulks jumping in to Anti Time is as impressive

What happened man? Where does all the hate come from? I can only imagine you had some sort of of traumatic childhood exerience involving Superman. I can't think of any other reason why you'd hang out on the Superman sub forum only to wine about him.

Originally posted by TheFilmProphet
Exactly, it seems it will soon become the norm.
Did you know that rubbing your hands together can seal holes in space/time?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7766/thenext01page192yu0ds.th.jpg

Originally posted by Validus
Did you know that rubbing your hands together can seal holes in space/time?

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7766/thenext01page192yu0ds.th.jpg


What comic is that?

Here is Supes holding a miniature black hole. Props to Snoop.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg

It's also not the first time Superman has used his body to repair space/time rips.

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/4610/jla07838fc.th.jpg

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/5554/jla07841cb.th.jpg

http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/6550/jla07850rs.th.jpg

Originally posted by golem370
How does Superman most powerful feats compare to these? http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7008/blastaar7os.jpg http://img153.exs.cx/img153/8827/fortress8xe.jpg http://img145.exs.cx/img145/1226/beyonder6ca.jpg
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7558/galaxymaster29qf.jpg
http://img219.echo.cx/img219/9757/featstimestorm9qs.jpg
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/5448/stranger37cy.jpg
http://img60.echo.cx/img60/7139/durabilityminigbomb1bn.jpg
http://img39.exs.cx/img39/8765/durabilityantimatter4fg.jpg
http://img145.exs.cx/img145/4783/genis5qn.jpg
http://img192.exs.cx/img192/89/durabilitykarnak6xb.jpg
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3213/onslaughtcontrol5vt.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/1079/anext1d5fi.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/8840/anext1o8dm.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/7118/anext1p3xd.jpg
http://img234.exs.cx/img234/5605/anext1s6hj.jpg

Hulk vs. Captain Mar-Vell (Credit to Thorion for the original scans.)

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7055/marvell1a4ov.jpg

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1b0mh.jpg

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/8884/marvell1c5gg.jpg

I just saw a scan in the versus section, of Savage Hulk getting K.O.ed by Rhino.
That's unforgivable. It cancels all of these out.

Originally posted by Accel
Well, duh. So is 95% pf every thing else that happens in a comic. Stuff like this happens all the time in comics, because, well, they're comics.

There's no point in getting worked up over it.


there is a diference between what is logical & rational and what is not. some feats, although impossible, are rational such as flight, superstrength (to a certain degree), superspeed (within reasonable limits), etc...

my point is that some feats are reasonable, but feats such as flying at or beyond the speed of light and holding black holes in one's hand are just pure bulls***, even for comic fiction.

if superman is able to do such things there is no arguable reason why he should not be threatened by any of the enemies he faces...

Originally posted by emporerpants
so all that compressed mass in a black hole is intangible?


there is no scientific evidence as to what happens to matter when sucked in by a black hole. scientists actually believe that matter just ceases to exist when they get sucked in.

but if all matter that is in a black hole ceases to exist, then where does a black holes gravitational pull come from?

It comes from space which always been there before any black hole or holes.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
How about this?

thats F-ing awesome

eat that hulk fanboys

Are you really saying that the Gravity of a black hole comes from empty space? Read this:

Blackholes



Do you have this same problem when watching scifi movies? Faster than light travel tends to happen a lot there. I reason that if superman can lift more than a crane why can't he movie faster than a spaceship>

Are you struggling for calculations...we don't even know our planet!

Originally posted by emporerpants
but if all matter that is in a black hole ceases to exist, then where does a black holes gravitational pull come from?


okay let me explain: a black hole is a super giant sun which collapses under its own gravity. all of its mass gets pulled toward a single point, which produces a density close to infinite. picture fitting everything on earth, including the earth, into a thimble, only much millions of times greater in mass and many more millions of times less in volume.

anyway, superman gets his powers from the sun, right? that means that he isnt supposed to be able to overpower one, otherwise it would be him from which the sun gets its power from

understand?

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Are you really saying that the Gravity of a black hole comes from empty space? Read this:

Blackholes



Do you have this same problem when watching scifi movies? Faster than light travel tends to happen a lot there. I reason that if superman can lift more than a crane why can't he movie faster than a spaceship>


say the hulk developed the ability to fly. would you find that rational?

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Do you have this same problem when watching scifi movies?


thats the very reason why i dont watch sci fi flicks...

Originally posted by Up In Flames
okay let me explain: a black hole is a super giant sun which collapses under its own gravity. all of its mass gets pulled toward a single point, which produces a density close to infinite. picture fitting everything on earth, including the earth, into a thimble, only much millions of times greater in mass and many more millions of times less in volume.

anyway, superman gets his powers from the sun, right? that means that he isnt supposed to be able to overpower one, otherwise it would be him from which the sun gets its power from

understand? Do Black Holes emitt solar energy? That's one source of Supermans power. The more he absorbs the stronger he gets.

source of superman power = sun, if he gets near a sun or anything that emits his sun's radiation he will be boosted in all his abilities

Originally posted by MattDay
source of superman power = sun, if he gets near a sun or anything that emits his sun's radiation he will be boosted in all his abilities


correct. you seem to be on the right track but on the wrong train... i know that superman gets his powers from the sun, but that means that the sun should be more powerful than him, therefore he should not be able to over power one. a blackhole is merely a collapsed sun with the same amount of energy, so he shouldn t be able to overpower one.

get my drift?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Do Black Holes emitt solar energy? That's one source of Supermans power. The more he absorbs the stronger he gets.


*refer to above post*

hmm well maybe superman could out power his source at the risk of destroying it and maybe himself... but who knows? in comics these rules are broken all the time by godly beings, which make you wonder what the heck is going on. lets just say he potentially could at great risk

so, once again, how can there be no mass like you claim? its all just compressed incredibly tight, but its still there.

Originally posted by emporerpants
so, once again, how can there be no mass like you claim? its all just compressed incredibly tight, but its still there.



i said nothing about a black hole having no mass. get ur facts right. while u're at it, get a tutor to teach u not to talk brainlessly.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
correct. you seem to be on the right track but on the wrong train... i know that superman gets his powers from the sun, but that means that the sun should be more powerful than him, therefore he should not be able to over power one. a blackhole is merely a collapsed sun with the same amount of energy, so he shouldn t be able to overpower one.

get my drift?

It depends. The sun could simply be a catalyst for his powers. It's not like DC ever really tried to explain exactly how Supermans biology works.

How do you contain a black hole by squeezing it? Or for that matter, how does it cancel out the gravity?

Its comics. It does because the writer wants it so.

I'm going to make a comic where black holes are canceled out by throwing panties at it then.

Originally posted by who?-kid
No it wasn't. Of course it was a bit exaggerated, but well, we are talking about comics after all.

Superman holding a (tiny) black hole in his hand for a very short time gives us a good idea of his awesome strength.

Hulk can't do such a thing. Martian Manhunter can't do it, Thanos can't do it...


Yeah Hulk only managed to Seperate Matter from Anti-Matter...............Superman can't do that, Thanos can't do that.....................lol feats of strength = poop.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm going to make a comic where black holes are canceled out by throwing panties at it then.
I'd read that.

And he can do that. Its a comic. Writers arent NASA scientists that struggle to write a story that keeps the basis of real life physics. They write what they want to be shown as impressive.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm going to make a comic where black holes are canceled out by throwing panties at it then.
For some reason, that makes total sense to me.

Originally posted by olympian
And he can do that. Its a comic. Writers arent NASA scientists that struggle to write a story that keeps the basis of real life physics. They write what they want to be shown as impressive.


so if the writers at marvel decided to let spiderman hold a black hole, would you pass that as believable?
i mean, it is only comic physics right?

The whole truth as to whether supes can hold a black hole is dependent upon the physical characteristics of a black hole compared to superman's kryptonian abilities.

Originally posted by Validus
No friend. That would be Hulk overcoming matter and anti-matter.

lol

so, up in flames, you're saying that a black hole has no mass but all matter that gives it mass ceases to exist? how, pray tell, does that work? theres no need to get nasty over it, by the way.

Originally posted by emporerpants
so, up in flames, you're saying that a black hole has no mass but all matter that gives it mass ceases to exist? how, pray tell, does that work? theres no need to get nasty over it, by the way.


like i said, a black hole is formed when a super giant sun collapses under its own gravity. it devours itself in the process and continues to suck in objects that come within its grasp. a black hole is more like a force of universally vast magnitude that acts as a cosmic vortex with a big appetite for intersteller objects.

it is by conclusive theory that a black hole has infinite density (astoundingly massive, no volume) with a gravitational pull equivalent to its nature- impossible to be determined. what can only be calculated about its gravitational pull is its lowest limit, which is found based upon the application of physics formulae to the extent of which a black hole can gravitate photon particles toward it.

that being said, i further add that the nature of a black hole is based upon the study of dark matter, as theorised by einstein. dark matter is believed to be the gravitational force that holds everything in the universe together, and takes up 90% of the total mass in the universe.

anyway, back to topic... you cannot hold a vortex, so you cannot hold a black hole. it is irrational even though its based on comics.

and as for me being nasty, i apologise. forgive me for losing my temper over this small matter.

just stop asking the same questions over again, eh?

alright, thanks up in flames i only wanted a bit of clarification on it is all. sorry i repeated myself on the question. excellent explanation by the way.

superman did hold a black hole in his hands... its a comic book

Originally posted by Up In Flames
so if the writers at marvel decided to let spiderman hold a black hole, would you pass that as believable?
i mean, it is only comic physics right?
Yes and no.

We have seen characters shut down dimensional openings with strength alone. Its how it is. But those are characters that they write with levels strong enough to do that.

Spiderman isent one of them. Now, if they boost him up with a power level to do that and actually make it so...sure. Why not?

Originally posted by emporerpants
alright, thanks up in flames i only wanted a bit of clarification on it is all. sorry i repeated myself on the question. excellent explanation by the way.


its all good, bro.

i watched the matrix the night before so was really in the mood for some theatrical speech.

Originally posted by olympian
Yes and no.

We have seen characters shut down dimensional openings with strength alone. Its how it is. But those are characters that they write with levels strong enough to do that.

Spiderman isent one of them. Now, if they boost him up with a power level to do that and actually make it so...sure. Why not?


physical strength has nothing to do with holding a vortex of any sort.

i say no, supermans good and all but a black hole?! not even light can escape those things, supoerman would get swallowed whole, then killed, no light in there mate

he held a black hole in his hands, seen the pic, read the pic, it's in the pic

Originally posted by Up In Flames
physical strength has nothing to do with holding a vortex of any sort.
Energy cant be grabbed either and Hulk did it.

I wonder what that means.

Originally posted by olympian
Energy cant be grabbed either and Hulk did it.

I wonder what that means.


we're talking superman here, not hulk

well they are talking about strength here and hulk and superman have an abundance of the stuff

Originally posted by Up In Flames
we're talking superman here, not hulk
We are talking about how strength works in comics. Both have high levels of it and can and have done things that are called "impossible".

At least be consistant.

Originally posted by olympian
We are talking about how strength works in comics. Both have high levels of it and can and have done things that are called "impossible".

At least be consistant.


black holes, vortexes, time warps are all energy-based and are intangible, therefore no matter how strong a character is, there is no way he could grab an object that is not comprised of solid material.

And yet time storms, dimensional portals and energy have been grabbed/punched/negated with strength.

Why? Because this isent real life settings/physics. Its comics, where everything depending the story and character levels, can happen. The writers use whatEVER works for theyr own story.

I find this notion extremely simple, but ok. To each its own.

Originally posted by olympian
And yet time storms, dimensional portals and energy have been grabbed/punched/negated with strength.

Why? Because this isent real life settings/physics. Its comics, where everything depending the story and character levels, can happen. The writers use whatEVER works for theyr own story.

I find this notion extremely simple, but ok. To each its own.


you're going off-track. this thread is not about whether there's any comic evidence as to whether superman can hold a black hole - there already is. what the thread is asking is whether YOU believe that such a notion is rational.

What you are failing to understand is this happened in a comic book. Sure its impossible to actually hold a black hole let alone get anywhere near one but who cares? This is Superman here, if he wants to hold a fukin black hole with his pinky finger he will god dammit. I might think to myself "what the fuk, IMPOSSIBLE!!!". This don't change the fact he did it and oh yea... ITS NOT REAL.

Im confused as to why u ask if its rational or not as incase i have not made my self clear, it is fiction, it does not have to be rational.

i really hate debating with idiots as such...^

If you wanted to make it as rational as comics get, you can say all Supes had to do was gain the initial seal on it. The black hole's vaccuum could pull on the hands, increasing the seal. With Supes on power override from being that close to solar energy, all he would then need to do was make sure each hand supported the other, much like a suspension bridge or the like.

Seperating the hands, now -there's- the real catch. lol

Originally posted by Velkyn
If you wanted to make it as rational as comics get, you can say all Supes had to do was gain the initial seal on it. The black hole's vaccuum could pull on the hands, increasing the seal. With Supes on power override from being that close to solar energy, all he would then need to do was make sure each hand supported the other, much like a suspension bridge or the like.

Seperating the hands, now -there's- the real catch. lol




a black hole is much too large to be sealed within two hands.

Let's try to play nice everyone. Superman after all is fantasy...it could happen.

Except if you read the comic it states that the black hole is a miniture one, no biggger than a spec of dust.

Not all black holes are the same size.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Not all black holes are the same size.


correct. but even the smallest black hole is greater in size than the sun...

Originally posted by Up In Flames
you're going off-track. this thread is not about whether there's any comic evidence as to whether superman can hold a black hole - there already is. what the thread is asking is whether YOU believe that such a notion is rational.
Since comics arent = a representation of real life, where does rationality fits, OTHER than the comics itself?

Incorrect. There have been artificially generated ones the size of elementry particles. It entirely possible of a dust particle sized one toe exist.

Originally posted by golem370
The biggest BS story I have ever heard


I agree. I don't think that Superman is that powerful after Crisis.

Originally posted by olympian
Since comics arent = a representation of real life, where does rationality fits, OTHER than the comics itself?

well, like i said earlier, maybe spiderman or batman or any other superhero without as much power as supes could hold a black hole in their hand based on comic book physics.

the way you guys argue what im trying to convey means that the above is correct too.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Incorrect. There have been artificially generated ones the size of elementry particles. It entirely possible of a dust particle sized one toe exist.


oh really? how is that possible?

Wasn't it also being contained by a GL forcefield?

Originally posted by Up In Flames
well, like i said earlier, maybe spiderman or batman or any other superhero without as much power as supes could hold a black hole in their hand based on comic book physics.

the way you guys argue what im trying to convey means that the above is correct too.
If the writer wanted and they had a powerup to do that, then yes.

The level of ridiculous feats are connected with the level the character is usually written, but they are -all- out of real life basis. Thats the only logic your going to get and its inside the context of the comic universe itself and the levels they use.

What is so difficult to grasp, here? Is the point of the thread if Batman can do this kind of thing? No. Can Superman? Yes. Thats the level hes written.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

no way in hell !!!

Originally posted by olympian
If the writer wanted and they had a powerup to do that, then yes.

The level of ridiculous feats are connected with the level the character is usually written, but they are -all- out of real life basis. Thats the only logic your going to get and its inside the context of the comic universe itself and the levels they use.

What is so difficult to grasp, here? Is the point of the thread if Batman can do this kind of thing? No. Can Superman? Yes. Thats the level hes written.


the kind of answers you are giving are "yes, but no, but yes"

let me ask you, can superman touch a ghost? if he could touch an intangible object then by all means he'd be able to hold a black hole.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole


couldnt access. but i guess if your source was right then there should be no problem with supes holding it.

Yes I do and he can also beat Ultron who lifts 100 tons and shoots heat beams out of his hands Superman lifts 200.000 tons and can crush ultron faster then Wonderman did.

whatever...

ooo someone's a touchy person...

Originally posted by golem370
A black Hole as far as gravity has the pull of hundreds of suns that is the BS about it.. Superman is not close to that power. Superman would have to fly faster then light to escape it's pull and even then it's not for sured he could do it then...

Black Hole's bend the fabric of space...

Black Hole- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermassive_black_hole

Well if you have a complaint, then tell the writers of the comic, but I actually read that comic, so don't try to tell me that I didn't see something that I did.

fanboys keep sayin the same old sh-t over and over again...

Originally posted by golem370
A black Hole as far as gravity has the pull of hundreds of suns that is the BS about it.. Superman is not close to that power. Superman would have to fly faster then light to escape it's pull and even then it's not for sured he could do it then...

Black Hole's bend the fabric of space...

Black Hole

There are two factors that govern a black hole: its size and mass. A black hole is defined as an object that is so massive that no light can escape its event horizon (i.e. its surface). That would mean that if your escape velocity is greater than the speed of light you could leave the surface of a black hole. It also means that you could use the equation for escape velocity to determine the mass that an object of a certain size would have to be for it to have the properties of a black hole. In the feat where Superman held a black hole in his hands (see JLA #77) the black hole in question was the size of a speck of dust (about .5 microns). based on that size the object would have to be far under under half the weight of the moon for it to be a black hole. As it turns out if you do the math the object would weight more than half a billion metric tons (the moon is about 70 quintillion metric tons).

DC has less Realism than Marvel...its because DC is trying more to entertain than make sense...thats why i try not to pay attention to space feats

I have to correct myself on the calculation. A black hole the size of a spec of dust (about 1 micron in diameter) would have to have a mass of 5/16 quintillion metric tons to be so. That's about 233 times smaller than the moon.

Originally posted by dnno1
I have to correct myself on the calculation. A black hole the size of a spec of dust (about 1 micron in diameter) would have to have a mass of 5/16 quintillion metric tons to be so. That's about 233 times smaller than the moon.

That is almost correct, but if IIRC the black hole Superman held in his hand was millions of years old.

Now according to theory, you can create a black hole the size of plank, but this black hole is not dangerous because it lacks mass and it will evaporate almost instantly. So in order for you to crate a black hole capable of destroying the earth, you will need to compress the whole mass of mount everest into a micro black hole, so that way you will have enough mass, so the black hole can live long enough to destroy earth in a pendular motion little by little.

And quote:

"Sucked into microscopic black hole

You will need: a microscopic black hole. Note that black holes are not eternal, they evaporate due to Hawking radiation. For your average black hole this takes an unimaginable amount of time, but for really small ones it could happen almost instantaneously, as evaporation time is dependent on mass. Therefore you microscopic black hole must have greater than a certain threshold mass, roughly equal to the mass of Mount Everest. Creating a microscopic black hole is tricky, since one needs a reasonable amount of neutronium, but may possibly be achievable by jamming large numbers of atomic nuclei together until they stick. This is left as an exercise to the reader.

Method: simply place your black hole on the surface of the Earth and wait. Black holes are of such high density that they pass through ordinary matter like a stone through the air. The black hole will plummet through the ground, eating its way to the center of the Earth and all the way through to the other side: then, it'll oscillate back, over and over like a matter-absorbing pendulum. Eventually it will come to rest at the core, having absorbed enough matter to slow it down. Then you just need to wait, while it sits and consumes matter until the whole Earth is gone.

Highly, highly unlikely. But not impossible.

Earth's final resting place: a singularity of almost zero size, which will then proceed to happily orbit the Sun as normal.

Source: "The Dark Side Of The Sun," by Terry Pratchett. It is true that the microscopic black hole idea is an age-old science fiction mainstay which predates Pratchett by a long time, he was my original source for the idea, so that's what I'm putting."

Here is the article

http://www.livescience.com/17875-destroy-earth-doomsday.html

The black hole in the comic was the size of a spec of dust, and it had been around millions of years IIRC, another interesting thing it was that this black hole it was not a planet buster, but a solar system buster.

What does it means?

it means that this black hole had enough compressed mass to survive millions of years and that it had enough compressed mass to destroy a solar system.

So yes, he did lift a black hole with enough mass to bust a solar system, after all He is Superman

Zack Snyder has said that he wants to put Superman on a level where he can be messed with.

That doesn not include giving him is comic book strength. This was a stronger depiction of Superman too.

supermans power is amplifeid by the radiation of the sun, which is basically a big fusion plant (the more fusion power the core of the sun have, the more amplified supermans power gets) but fusions need atoms to work, and black holes doesn't need that. soo logically or what i would believe is as long the core of the sun remains an controlled bomb (it doesn't turn in to a black hole) then superman can handle the suns radiation, but of it does... then yeaa.. say bye bye to superman when hes behind the event horizon..

but nobody really knows whats behind the event horizon so he may survive after all

conclusion: it will remain a mystery i believe