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Current Wolverine vs. Current Captain America

Fight Takes place in a forest

Captain America just has his suit and his shield

Wolverine just has his suit and his claws

Both are teleported their against their will, and are forced to fight

This is a fight to the death, and I didnt like their fight in Wolverine Origins

i didnt think this has been done before...
anyway for the sake of wolverine, im going to show one of his better showing!!

current wolverine can heal from being incinerated by nitro shifty.. how can cap overcome that?

honestly though.. wolvie already beat cap, and in the last fight he kinda had the advantage without the use of the plot device.. so wolvie wins...

plus....

Originally posted by bigbran
i didnt think this has been done before...
anyway for the sake of wolverine, im going to show one of his better showing!!

The fight in Wolverine: Origins made no sense...

Cap was fighting like an idiot, I mean why would he choose a sword over his sheild and why would Wolverine be his hostage

and another ok showing.

Originally posted by jinzin
current wolverine can heal from being incinerated by nitro shifty.. how can cap overcome that?

honestly though.. wolvie already beat cap, and in the last fight he kinda had the advantage without the use of the plot device.. so wolvie wins...

Ugh that thing with Nitro was bullcrap

However unless Cap has prep, I give it to Wolverine because of his healing factor

Originally posted by bigbran
and another ok showing. hey grim, an ok showing?

Originally posted by bigbran
hey grim, an ok showing?

What?

Originally posted by Grimm22
The fight in Wolverine: Origins made no sense...

Cap was fighting like and idiot, I mean why would he choose a sword over his sheild and why would Wolverine be his hostage are you serious? they both fought inteligently as hell.. they were both fighting but only to the point of winning the fight without seriously hurting/killing one another..
cap opted for the sword cause his shield was gone.. don't know if you noticed that part..

he took a hostage cause they're friends... seriously do you even TRY to read some of these comics or do you just hate them cause of wolverine?

Originally posted by Grimm22
What? here.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh that thing with Nitro was bullcrap

However unless Cap has prep, I give it to Wolverine because of his healing factor hence my sarcasm...

I know the Wolverine has beaten Cap b4 but I read that comic and it just made no sense. And how come Cap isnt dead from that blood clot thing in his leg?

Originally posted by jinzin
are you serious? they both fought inteligently as hell.. they were both fighting but only to the point of winning the fight without seriously hurting/killing one another..
cap opted for the sword cause his shield was gone.. don't know if you noticed that part..

he took a hostage cause they're friends... seriously do you even TRY to read some of these comics or do you just hate them cause of wolverine?

No I dont hate it cause its Wolverine

If I did why would I buy the issue?!?

The Origins series is complete crap, im only picking it up for the awesome cover art

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I know the Wolverine has beaten Cap b4 but I read that comic and it just made no sense. And how come Cap isnt dead from that blood clot thing in his leg?

I donno, why isnt Wolveriene dead from being blown up and turned into a skelaton

Originally posted by Grimm22
No I dont hate it cause its Wolverine

If I did why would I buy the issue?!?

The Origins series is complete crap, im only picking it up for the awesome cover art grimm look about 2 or 3 post up.

or 5 or 6 post up.

Originally posted by bigbran
here.

I still dont get it

Its a poorly drawn Wolverine with bad paintshop

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I know the Wolverine has beaten Cap b4 but I read that comic and it just made no sense. And how come Cap isnt dead from that blood clot thing in his leg?

cause he didn't stress it enough.. the blood clot wouldn't kill him unless the clotted blood rushed to his heart.. when he tried to stress it he keeled over.. it was just fine.

Originally posted by jinzin
cause he didn't stress it enough.. the blood clot wouldn't kill him unless the clotted blood rushed to his heart.. when he tried to stress it he keeled over.. it was just fine.

Even then I would think that the SS serum would prevent things like that

Originally posted by Grimm22
No I dont hate it cause its Wolverine

If I did why would I buy the issue?!?

The Origins series is complete crap, im only picking it up for the awesome cover art

to point out more things that you hate about wolverine? I don't know. I'm not a rabid wolvie hater so I couldn't tell ya why you're buying wolvie issues...

Originally posted by Grimm22
Even then I would think that the SS serum would prevent things like that how?

Originally posted by Grimm22
I still dont get it

Its a poorly drawn Wolverine with bad paintshop but the people wolverine killed hell be doing that kind of stuff soon.

You guy mean Logan won against Cap in Origins?

Originally posted by jinzin
to point out more things that you hate about wolverine? I don't know. I'm not a rabid wolvie hater so I couldn't tell ya why you're buying wolvie issues...

I've been buying Wolverine books ever since I really got into comics around when Enemy of the State first started

I dont hate Wolverine, I just dont like current Wolverine's status quo

Classic Wolverine is awesome though

Originally posted by bigbran
but the people wolverine killed hell be doing that kind of stuff soon.

Chuck Noris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine

Originally posted by joesha28
You guys mean Logan won against Cap in Origins?

Originally posted by jinzin
how?

Well dosent the SS serum make him immune to any diseases, posins or any other curroptions of the blood

Originally posted by Grimm22
Chuck Noris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine not in the scan!!

Originally posted by joesha28
You guy mean Logan won against Cap in Origins? not really.. but he secured an advantage till cap got hold of a plot device.

Did logan won?

Originally posted by Grimm22
I've been buying Wolverine books ever since I really got into comics around when Enemy of the State first started

I dont hate Wolverine, I just dont like current Wolverine's status quo

Classic Wolverine is awesome though enemy of the state? no wonder you think wolvie sucks..

Originally posted by jinzin
not really.. but he secured an advantage till cap got hold of a plot device.

Thanks..

Originally posted by joesha28
Did logan won? Originally posted by jinzin
not really.. but he secured an advantage till cap got hold of a plot device.

Originally posted by jinzin
not really.. but he secured an advantage till cap got hold of a plot device.

Ugh why is Nuke even in the series... why is Cap a lap dog for the government?!?!

I swear to god I hate Marvel for this crap!

idk I just didnt like how Cap bested Wolverine in the comic

Originally posted by jinzin
enemy of the state? no wonder you think wolvie sucks..

I dont think he sucks I just dont like him in his current status quo

you do realize im going to use that wolverine pic as canon now!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
you do realize im going to use that wolverine pic as canon now!!!

you would wouldn't you

Originally posted by Grimm22
Well dosent the SS serum make him immune to any diseases, posins or any other curroptions of the blood it wasn't a corruption of the blood though

Originally posted by jinzin
it wasn't a corruption of the blood though

Its pretty much a heart attack

Heart Attack = Blood Corruption

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
idk I just didnt like how Cap bested Wolverine in the comic he didn't though..

Originally posted by Grimm22
Its pretty much a heart attack

Heart Attack = Blood Corruption

no it's a corruption of the hearts function.. not a corruption of the blood.. it just causes more blood to be dispursed through the heart than the heart should be able to take..

Originally posted by jinzin
no it's a corruption of the hearts function.. not a corruption of the blood.. it just causes more blood to be dispursed through the heart than the heart should be able to take..

Well the blood becomes clotted thus causing the heart attack

Originally posted by jinzin
he didn't though..

kinda when he took him as a hostage

nope wolves would straight kick any heroe, basically.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Well the blood becomes clotted thus causing the heart attack that's still not a corruption of the blood.. it's a curruption of the functions that regulate bloodflow....
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
kinda when he took him as a hostage
by using a weapon that isn't his.. he had to cheat to have an advantage.. if he didn't grab that he wouldn't have taken wolvie hostage...

even if he grabbed a sword.. if he grabbed a NORMAL sword do you think he would have just backed down like that? hell no.. but wolverine didn't want to envoke the wrath of the wraith that the blade contains...

I know but that still was really stupid

The Muramasa blade is something that could kill Logan that he can't heal.

don't know if that's accurate since wolverine's already healed from it.. but the blade is infectious.. which is the problem.

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What the hell is a corruption of the blood? Septicaemia?

i think he's talking about posions themselves... or something..

well that can't be it cause he thinks that blood clotting is curroption of the plot.. check that, I have no idea what he's talking about.

A blood clot in a carotid artery deprives part of the heart from oxygen which results in myocardial infarct (death of heart muscle) if untreated this can cause things like ventricular fibrillation (heart rate becomes a bloody mess) which can effect cardiac arrest (blood isn't pumped properly, so the brain gets insufficient oxygen).

Clarified?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A blood clot in a carotid artery deprives part of the heart from oxygen which results in myocardial infarct (death of heart muscle) if untreated this can cause things like ventricular fibrillation (heart rate becomes a bloody mess) which can effect cardiac arrest (blood isn't pumped properly, so the brain gets insufficient oxygen).

Clarified?

lol nice

It's very plausible that Cap can at least knock out Wolvie for the win. Even a two second KO still counts as a win.

I'll say Cap.

Originally posted by jinzin
that's still not a corruption of the blood.. it's a curruption of the functions that regulate bloodflow....

by using a weapon that isn't his.. he had to cheat to have an advantage.. if he didn't grab that he wouldn't have taken wolvie hostage...

even if he grabbed a sword.. if he grabbed a NORMAL sword do you think he would have just backed down like that? hell no.. but wolverine didn't want to envoke the wrath of the wraith that the blade contains...
wolverine was not real hostage lol. wolverine was trying to talk to capt. I don't think wolverine was worried about fighting capt at all and if it came down to it wolverine would of faced capt .

Originally posted by Grimm22
The fight in Wolverine: Origins made no sense...Cap was fighting like an idiot, I mean why would he choose a sword over his sheild and why would Wolverine be his hostage
How exactly was Cap fighting like an idiot? If anything Wolverine was fighting like an idiot. He turned his back on Cap after he floored him. pretty stupid on Wolverine's part. Cap did everything he could do.

Cap would choose a sword over NOTHING if he had to. Wolverine deflected Cap's shield far away, thus the shield was not available. The sword was like 10 feet away from them. Cap's leg is effed up so obviously he goes for the closer weapon.

Wolverine would allow himself to be a hostage for many reasons.
1) He knows that sword can kill anyone so he's not in a hurry to get stabbed by it.
2) Gives him a chance to attack Cap when he's in the cover of the jungle.
3) Gives him a chance to try and talk Cap over to his side and have a formidable ally.
4) Pretending to be a hostage gives him time to heal from the wounds he got fighting Nuke and Cap back 2 back.
5) Wolverine points out later that he does not want to kill Steve, but if Steve has the sword Wolverine would have to kill him, so he will attempt to avoid killing him if he can.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Even then I would think that the SS serum would prevent things like that I dont see what the SS Serum will do about a massive blood clot. It's not like it gives him a Wolverine level healing ability.
Originally posted by Grimm22
I've been buying Wolverine books ever since I really got into comics around when Enemy of the State first started You started with Enemy of the State? No wonder you think he's such a weak fighter.
Originally posted by Grimm22
I dont hate Wolverine, I just dont like current Wolverine's status quoCurrent Wolverine's status quo is being a pale immitation of Classic Wolverine.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Classic Wolverine is awesome though Classic Wolverine was more formidable than today's Wolverine, so why would you (who hate Wolverine winning fights) prefer him?
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ugh why is Nuke even in the series... why is Cap a lap dog for the government?!?! If you read the issues you would know why Nuke is in this book. Nuke is here because he is linked to Wolverine through the Weapon X project. Wolverine helped recruit and train Nuke, thus they are further linked. Understand?
Cap is the governments lap dog because the President gave him a direct order. Considering how many people Wolverine killed the last time he went rogue Cap would obviously want to help, especially if the President told him to.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
idk I just didnt like how Cap bested Wolverine in the comic Well then be happy because Wolverine outfought Cap initially and then completely railed his ass in the end. Cap was helpless and Wolverine would have ended him had Hellion not intervened.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Its pretty much a heart attack

Heart Attack = Blood Corruption The Heart Attack would be caused by the physical damage that resulted in a blood clot. Wolverine didn't poison Cap he damaged a main artery. SS serum doesn't stop physical damage, only chemical damage, therefor the SS Serum is worthless here.
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
kinda when he took him as a hostage So what? Wolverine only went with Cap to avoid getting stabbed by the blade and even when he did get stabbed he still got up and beat the hell out of Cap.
Originally posted by joesha28
The Muramasa blade is something that could kill Logan that he can't heal. Apparantly Wolverine can survive getting cut by the sword. It could be due to the fact that the adamantium skeleton stopped penetration, but either way Wolverine got right back up. Maybe the sword just used it's power to unleash Wolverine's berserker rage.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's very plausible that Cap can at least knock out Wolvie for the win. Even a two second KO still counts as a win. Even though a KO would be nearly impossible for Cap to achieve, yet extremely easy for Wolverine to do. Chances for a KO are overwealmingly in Wolverine's favor.

So if a 2 second KO counts as a win then Wolverine technically beat Grey Hulk according to you? Since Grey Hulk was out for several panels.
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine was not real hostage lol. wolverine was trying to talk to capt. I don't think wolverine was worried about fighting capt at all and if it came down to it wolverine would of faced capt . I agree. Idont think Wolverine was actually worried about the sword a whole lot. Wolverine says, "You dont know what that thing can do." Maybe he was trying to warn Cap that if Cap used it on Wolverine the evil part of Wolverine that the blade posesses would force Wolverine into a berserker rage and cause him to kill Cap, which is basically what happened. Wolverine seemed to go with Cap only in hope that he wouldn't be forced to kill Cap.

while the swords remains amiguous.. the book states that this sword s the same blade as the one that was in wolverine 1-3.. the one that possessed both wolverine and spider woman.. I think if anything wolverine was simply concerned about invoking the spirit of the demon inside... and I'm almost positive that's exactly what happened when he got cut by it hence the red eyes.. but this is all theory.

Unfortunately, this fight would go to Wolverine. If it were a more 'fair' fight, though, Cap would come out the winner. Like in the other Captain America vs. Wolverine thread, that had Wolverine fighting without the crutch of a healing factor.

Originally posted by jinzin
while the swords remains amiguous.. the book states that this sword s the same blade as the one that was in wolverine 1-3.. the one that possessed both wolverine and spider woman.. I think if anything wolverine was simply concerned about invoking the spirit of the demon inside... and I'm almost positive that's exactly what happened when he got cut by it hence the red eyes.. but this is all theory.
I think the red eyes was a beserker rage comming on. wich make senses since at the back of the comic it says in the next issue beserker wolverine vs the x-men and capt

Originally posted by Soljer
Unfortunately, this fight would go to Wolverine. If it were a more 'fair' fight, though, Cap would come out the winner. Like in the other Captain America vs. Wolverine thread, that had Wolverine fighting without the crutch of a healing factor. Wolverine winning is only "unfortunate" if you like Cap better.

Without the "crutch" of the healing factor Wolverine is still at the very least a match for Cap physically, and that's being kind to Cap.

Wolverine still only really needs to hit Cap once with his main weapons to win.

And Wolverine still has an experience and technical skill/training advantage.

And if you want to see Wolverine without the healing factor the fight in Origins was a perfect example as Daniel Way's Wolverine heals at a VERY SLOW rate, making the healing factor a non-issue until after the fight is over. And Wolverine still whooped on Cap.

Originally posted by jinzin
while the swords remains amiguous.. the book states that this sword s the same blade as the one that was in wolverine 1-3.. the one that possessed both wolverine and spider woman.. I think if anything wolverine was simply concerned about invoking the spirit of the demon inside... and I'm almost positive that's exactly what happened when he got cut by it hence the red eyes.. but this is all theory.

The Black Blade and the Muramasa Blade are two seperate swords both forged by the Immortal Demon Swordsmith Muramasa. The swords are very similar but the main difference between them is that the Black Blade contained part of Muramasa's soul where the Muramasa Blade was forged using the evil of Wolverine's. This is at least what I gathered from the story so it my be incorrect but I'm possitive they are two seperate swords. Plus I think the Black Knight aquired the Black Blade at some point, he never used it since only Harda is worthy but I'm almost possitive he had it in a torphy room filled with assorted weapons.

I enjoyed the fight...it's was a bloody one indeed.