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major force,green arrow, flash - who are rest
dont no anyone in next team

The Elite
http://www.mykey3000.com/cosmicteams/cosmic/e.html#elite

The Authority
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authority

Originally posted by lilnutta12
major force,green arrow, flash - who are rest
dont no anyone in next team Manitou Raven
Vera Black
Coldcast.

And I can't remember the girls' name, but she's the sister of the original wielder of those aliens.

And the Authority, primarily JLA analogs.
Jenny Quantum.
Swift
Apollo
Midnighter
The Doctor
The Engineer

I've read the Elite arc....can't say I was terribly impressed, but it was reasonably cool.

Flash is a problem.

Otherwise the Authority rolls. And if the Doctor (or Angie) can get airborn before Flash speedblitzes him, he has enough tricks in his arsenal to kill Flash.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I've read the Elite arc....can't say I was terribly impressed, but it was reasonably cool.

Flash is a problem.

Otherwise the Authority rolls. And if the Doctor (or Angie) can get airborn before Flash speedblitzes him, he has enough tricks in his arsenal to kill Flash. I dunno, Raven's a good mage, and the Elite arc didn't really do Major Disaster justice.

never read the arc, but I did like the Flashs costume....I thought it was cool

They reform into the Elite Authority?

^^^ hahahaha but no .

Authority beats the piss out of the Elite. They are basically the JLA without that annoying no-killing thing. The elite could concievably win if flash actually uses his powers like he should or manitou raven pulls some ultimate magical death spell out of his ass. Authority 6/10

If we're talking no holding back, Elite wins, mainly because of Flash.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
If we're talking no holding back, Elite wins, mainly because of Flash.



I still have problems with this assessment, even though Flash is a problem.

Flash couldn't kill most of them, as they're almost uniformly at least herald-level-durability. And The Doctor could just travel time and kill Flash in his sleep or somesuch. Or simply stop time temporarily...stopping everyone (including Flash).

And the rest of the Elite would be hard-pressed to avoid a complete massacre once Flash is dealt with.

Flash can time travel as well.....and Ive heard that once he says the speed forumla time stops. Anyone with a scan that can prove that?

Besides. Flash could just steal all their speed (and it MIGHT not work on the Doctor or that 21st century chick) but there are other ways he can win

Oh, crap. I forgot about Jenny Quantum.

Yeah, give me a break. The girl's nigh-Skyfather level.

And how often does Flash time travel? And how precise is it? All the Doctor has to do is think about it and it happens.

And Jack would put on his Sunday best (I'm thinking Mexico City), Apollo is a Supes variation, and Angie will create a shield of microscopic knives, then just fly around cutting people up on an atomic level.

But let's keep it simple: Jenny creates impenetrable force fields around them while the Doctor turns them to pudding. Then he travels back in time (with Jenny just for insurance) and takes care of Flash.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oh, crap. I forgot about Jenny Quantum.

Yeah, give me a break. The girl's nigh-Skyfather level.


yet Captain Atom killed her.....

Originally posted by DigiMark007
And how often does Flash time travel? And how precise is it? All the Doctor has to do is think about it and it happens.


He does it all the time Im not sure on precision but Im sure Val or Draco or Lindquist could tell you

Originally posted by DigiMark007
And Jack would put on his Sunday best (I'm thinking Mexico City), Apollo is a Supes variation, and Angie will create a shield of microscopic knives, then just fly around cutting people up on an atomic level.

But let's keep it simple: Jenny creates impenetrable force fields around them while the Doctor turns them to pudding. Then he travels back in time (with Jenny just for insurance) and takes care of Flash.

All these characters need to think Flash is faster than mere thought. He drops the mutli verse on there domepieces But really, he can just steal their speed, amp the others speed (most important being the magic guy), say the speed formula and thats all in the first picosecond. (or more importantly throw them all into the speed force )

I mean flash is so fast that in this very arch he was fighting two different enemies on two different teams in two very different places and no one was the wiser

Captain Atom killed jenny quantumn? How? When was this? Anyway Jenny quantumn and her group easily wins this. She doesn't have to use a force field, she could place that entire team in a stasis field. You are talking about a team with three members who are capable of time travel. Jenny, the doctor and the engineer. Plus they have the carrier. They have resources that no team in marvel or dc have. Swift killed a flash ripoff. Flash based on power level alone is a factor, but I doubt if he will have a chance to use it since more than likely the authority will no more about them then they know about themselves.

^^^ I agree. the Flash is overated on this board . if he was this powerful he wouldn't have major problems with enimies like ...

Captian Cold ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Cold

Mirror Master ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_Master

Heat Wave ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Wave_%28comics%29

The Trickster ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster_%28comics%29

OR

Gorilla grodd (a dammed monkey) ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Grodd

The Doctor can timetravel to the past and molest you while simultaneously maintaining in the present to tell you that he timetravelled to the past to molest you and watch your reaction to it.

Jenny Quantum has the power within her to collapse the multiverse.

I'm putting my money on the Authority.

Originally posted by complexbrother
^^^ I agree. the Flash is overated on this board . if he was this powerful he wouldn't have major problems with enimies like ...

Captian Cold ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Cold

Mirror Master ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_Master

Heat Wave ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_Wave_%28comics%29

The Trickster ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster_%28comics%29

OR

Gorilla grodd (a dammed monkey) ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorilla_Grodd Really? Grodd has given the Titans and other groups a run before.
The Trickster defeated Neron.

Captain Cold, Mirror Master and Heatwave are all more formidable than people give them credit for, but then again, you made it sound as if Flash struggles with these guys... He rarely does.

But, those are only his low end rogues. He has guys like Zoom and Reverse Flash, among others.

Really? Grodd has given the Titans and other groups a run before.never on his own, I know that as fact
The Trickster defeated Neron.no, he tricked him into relasing the other rogues souls

Captain Cold, Mirror Master and Heatwave are all more formidable than people give them credit for, but then again, you made it sound as if Flash struggles with these guys... He rarely does. yes he does, regurly, even the even lamer ones like the Top and Murmur

But, those are only his low end rogues. He has guys like Zoom and Reverse Flash, among others.and yet he still struggles with them

bump

Flash is horrible to deal with...he should never exist.

Anyway, this is becoming a prep argument. Give both teams even a second of prep, and The Authority owns. Without prep, in a "Ready? Go!" scenario, Flash could conceivably turn the tide of the battle himself.

But my money's still on the girl who has ingested a baby universe going supernova.

And how did Atom kill Jenny?? That was the worst arc ever...full of continuity errors with powers and/or characterizations, and was basically a big Cpt. Atom fanboy orgasm.

Authority wins save for typical Flash shenanigans.