How strong is Wolverine's healing factor?

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steverules
Title says it all

The Pict
very strong, based on recent evidence.

steverules
But how'd it happen? I mean did his healing factor some how upgrade or something?

The Pict
i think its limits were never explored.

steverules
So he can regrow his head if it get's cut off and other limbs?

The Pict
he probably can, his whole body was incinerated after all.

steverules
And he healed from a nuclear bomb in Venom: Run

xmarksthespot
Hold him underwater long enough and he'll die.

The Pict
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hold him underwater long enough and he'll die.

then he'll come back to life wink

Kaos sebaceous
Originally posted by The Pict
then he'll come back to life wink

really?

The Pict
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
really?

he was blown up, all his flesh and organs, except his brain, destroyed so i imagine he would return to live after being drowned.

steverules
I would imagine so but wasn't that storyline PIS?

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by steverules
And he healed from a nuclear bomb in Venom: Run
I doubt it was big enough or powerful enough of a nuke to be classified as a bomb considering there was in tact wooden signs and crap around him.

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by steverules
I would imagine so but wasn't that storyline PIS? No not PIS. A big steaming pile of BS more like it...

wsg
Originally posted by steverules
So he can regrow his head if it get's cut off and other limbs?

No, he can't. Yuriko Oyoma can though. His healing factor is pretty strong though! He's been hit with a bomb in the face, thrown in a vat of acid and his skin dripping off his flesh, AND he's been thrown into fire pits and hell and servived! I'd say he's strong.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No not PIS. A big steaming pile of BS more like it... laughing


Agreed....100 %

That was ridiculous...I stopped reading after it.

rox
if he can survive being deatomized by phoenix then he must be pretty strong

zslick
in a comic a incinerate grenade blew right next to him melted him down to his metallic bone and he was dead even his eyes were gone then later in the comic he popped up knocking the guy who i guess killed him and his shoulder was still healing as the skin was covering his muscle tissue

jffxex1980
Cut his head and he dies. Xavier had safety protocols for everyone of his students just in case they go rogue.

buddha8787
how do you behead something with bones made of adamantium...you can cut to the bones but how the f could you ever really dismember him? Unless you sat there iwth a knife cutting around the curves of his bones...while he healed...

wsg
There'd be no possible way to cut through his adamantium neck bone. Nothing can cut thru adamantium. So you wouldn't be able to cut off his head, plus the skin would just keep regenerating as you cut in to it. He can regenerate tissue cells, unlike us. He can't regenerate bone but he doesn't need to worry bout loosing it anytime soon.

Shalimar_fox
if there was some way to cut an vein then hold the blade in that spot he could bleed to death,i feel sorry for who ever try's that

starlock
BTW his normal bone can grow back.
he got a regeneration boost after he recovered from the adamantium being taken out by magneto,at one point he was run over by a car without the adamantium and he went flatline and was dead ,by the time the car passed him over he was up and very pissed
there was a storyline that said the adamantium was slowing his regeneration down,but in recent comics they are really amping his regeneration,
about coming back from just bones(adamantium): the theory is that since the adamantium coats his bones he still has his dna in his bone structure ,so if he is totaly incinerated he can come back because his bones still hold his dna which is a map of who he is

argesilen
Way to kill Wolverine is to kill his brain, only then, his flesh cannot regenerate...There are many ways of doing so, one of them is that Microbe use his powers, and microbes will eat his brain from inside...or something like that...

Vim
Originally posted by argesilen
Way to kill Wolverine is to kill his brain, only then, his flesh cannot regenerate...There are many ways of doing so, one of them is that Microbe use his powers, and microbes will eat his brain from inside...or something like that...

This one is the best so far, because the microbe could travel through his mouth eatting through the tissue that connects the spinal cord to the brain and then getting to the brain, but Wolvie would probably have the guy sliced and diced before the bugs got that far.

argesilen
combine then powers of Microbe and some telekinetic mutant. T would hold W. and Microbe will do the job. Easy...

thorncrawler
drown him in adamantium so he wolud be encased in adamantium and wouldn't be able to get out so he would sofocate and die cos oxygen couldn't get to him to help him!

yestinchong
How about...

Keep him incapacitated long enough such that you can throw him into an ocean.....if you tie him up and keep him unconscious long enough, he will sink down pretty low....

....and ultimately die from that. And then when (and if) his body regnerates and he tries to swim back up, he will not be able to hold his breath underwater long enough and sink back down again.....

...maybe that will keep him dead for good?

Vim
Originally posted by thorncrawler
drown him in adamantium so he wolud be encased in adamantium and wouldn't be able to get out so he would sofocate and die cos oxygen couldn't get to him to help him!

Wow! I don't wolvie getting out of that by himself! He'd definitely have to have some help on that!!

stickman618
just rip out his heart

and fill the cavity so it can't grow back

MickeyJames
its going to b explaned why hes doign stuff like this, thers a reson just wait,

it was in a prevew for a comic

capt it up
he fully come back from the dead on at least 3 occassions

Vim
Originally posted by capt it up
he fully come back from the dead on at least 3 occassions

One he needed help from a cetain Jean Grey to be pulled back from the void.

starlock
i think the preview said they are going to reveal what happens when he gets incinerated,im not sure they will explain the why though


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i think they are going to reveal that he goes somwhere when he dies,like his astral self gets sent somewhere and he has encounters there
i dont think they are going to reveal how he comes back from death(near death) or how his regeneration brings him back,but i hope they do hehe

capt it up
Originally posted by Vim
One he needed help from a cetain Jean Grey to be pulled back from the void.
I was not talking about that at all

speiderman
He must be a strong guy. His recooperative powers are extaordinary as Professor X has said many times in the animated series from the 90s. If you need anymore proof of this watch the scene in X2 when the X-Men are at Bobby's house. The policeman shoots Wolverine right in the head. 8 minutes later the wound heals.

manorastroman
wolverine: choke him to death, drown him, cut off his head (yes, it is possible. thepiece of adamantium coated vertebra you would need to cut through is really, really thin.) ultimate hulk him to death, bleed him to death, any telekinetic could do it...

Blind
Originally posted by jffxex1980
Cut his head and he dies. Xavier had safety protocols for everyone of his students just in case they go rogue.

This is true, it was pointed out in the Onslaught saga.

I think, as for cutting through his adamantium and everything, it would depend on if his cartiledge is covered in adamantium, too. I don't think it is... so if someone pulled hard enough on his head, and could seperate the vertebrae in his neck that way... that would probably kill him.

Just never put the head back on the body.

anamantium
Originally posted by wsg
No, he can't. Yuriko Oyoma can though. His healing factor is pretty strong though! He's been hit with a bomb in the face, thrown in a vat of acid and his skin dripping off his flesh, AND he's been thrown into fire pits and hell and servived! I'd say he's strong. there is a prosedure to produce anamantium into your body i had it done not so bad if you get shot a million times youl never die!!! anamantium is realy indestructible
i dont care about haveing meatal in me

anamantium
Originally posted by buddha8787
how do you behead something with bones made of adamantium...you can cut to the bones but how the f could you ever really dismember him? Unless you sat there iwth a knife cutting around the curves of his bones...while he healed... hey dont make fun of me! theres a prosedure to put anamantium in your body dosent take long just let your body get used to it why dont you get my same prosedure i got and you can get shot with a gun a million times on the head bounce bounce they will go off of the head like a 0% change itl go thru the anamantium i like haveing it why dont you email me at applesnbananasdj@yahoo.com ill tell you more info about it!!!!!

xkalybr
If you are strong enough to hold Wolverine underwater... he'll drown.

If you are strong enough to throw Wolverine into space... he'll suffocate and freeze.

If you are able to tie him up with rope or chains, whatever... you could starve him to death.

Wolverine's bones are unbreakable, but someone like the Hulk could pull his arm out of his shoulder socket. Cartilage, ligaments and tendons are flesh, not adamantium. Wolverine's head could be ripped off as well.

capt it up
Originally posted by xkalybr
If you are strong enough to hold Wolverine underwater... he'll drown.

If you are strong enough to throw Wolverine into space... he'll suffocate and freeze.

If you are able to tie him up with rope or chains, whatever... you could starve him to death.

Wolverine's bones are unbreakable, but someone like the Hulk could pull his arm out of his shoulder socket. Cartilage, ligaments and tendons are flesh, not adamantium. Wolverine's head could be ripped off as well.
non of those will work. yes he will die how ever he will come back to life he is immortal as shown in issue 48.


last one won't work either ba'al tried it and failed as has sabertooth.

capt it up
Originally posted by manorastroman
wolverine: choke him to death, drown him, cut off his head (yes, it is possible. thepiece of adamantium coated vertebra you would need to cut through is really, really thin.) ultimate hulk him to death, bleed him to death, any telekinetic could do it...
won't work an exspert swords men tried and failed. you know silversamur and ogun both failed to do so.

stickman618
what happens when you chop off a limb(say he doesn't have adamantium)?

will it grow back?
or will it turn into a stub?

kayakat
doesn't he walk around with one arm in some of the comics?

stickman618
in AoA i think

starlock
In A.O.A logan purposely put a cap on his hand so it would not grow back,he kept it a secret weapon that he still had claws. at least thats what the backstory was when i read the AOA synopsis

stickman618
so limbs will grow back??

capt it up
Originally posted by stickman618
what happens when you chop off a limb(say he doesn't have adamantium)?

will it grow back?
or will it turn into a stub?
it will grow back

stickman618
what about his head??

(again assuming he doesn't have adamantium)

capt it up
Originally posted by stickman618
what about his head??

(again assuming he doesn't have adamantium)
been there done it during world war 2 in issue 32 if im not mistaken.

Wolverine2006
Hulk couldn't tear the cartilage in Wolverine's spinal cord...I doubt it can be severed in the 616 universe

stickman618
Originally posted by capt it up
been there done it during world war 2 in issue 32 if im not mistaken.

cool eek!

can someone please post a pic with his head growing back please big grin

capt it up
Originally posted by stickman618
cool eek!

can someone please post a pic with his head growing back please big grin
it was not shown only stated

stickman618
well........

can you post a pic of that then please

Ryonslaught
Originally posted by steverules
How Strong Is Wolverine's Healing Factor?


As strong as marvel feels like it shoud be! stick out tongue
Depending on the mood of the writer's Logan can be a pissant sissy boy (which he is) stick out tongue to an unstopable shrimp! roll eyes (sarcastic)
I mean really.......he survived a nuclear bomb? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Marvel needs to stop appeasing Logan's lil fans and actually stick to a script! mad



At the rate they'r hyping his healing factor he might as well be called Pheonix cool

sapphiremouse
Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Hulk couldn't tear the cartilage in Wolverine's spinal cord...I doubt it can be severed in the 616 universe Not sure what book it was from.... Maybe What if?... remember it was set in the Savage Land, The Adversary was setting up everyone and The Hulk was a wild card. But anyways during this storyline Hulk pulped the crap out of wolverine over and over in a full crazed fury and managed to dislodge a single vertebrae killing wolverine.

cant find this issue , ive got it but too many to sort through

capt it up
Originally posted by stickman618
well........

can you post a pic of that then please
no scanner and my comics are at home, becuase I am at college

capt it up
Originally posted by sapphiremouse
Not sure what book it was from.... Maybe What if?... remember it was set in the Savage Land, The Adversary was setting up everyone and The Hulk was a wild card. But anyways during this storyline Hulk pulped the crap out of wolverine over and over in a full crazed fury and managed to dislodge a single vertebrae killing wolverine.

cant find this issue , ive got it but too many to sort through
would enevr work in 616. Your think of the what if hulk killed wolverine.

hunter_blake05
its strong it can heal all.... even bullet, stab wound or slash....
its like deathstrike healing factor

xkalybr
If Wolverine is an immortal, what would happen if Wolverine is tied in chains and then cut in half by an adamantium saw... does that mean each half of his body will make a new half?

If that is the case, then there would be 2 Wolverine's running around.

poncho73
Originally posted by stickman618
what happens when you chop off a limb(say he doesn't have adamantium)?

will it grow back?
or will it turn into a stub?

I have read the entire thread and I have to say that because of respins over the years and as someone mention before, the appeasement of the wolverine fans, they have lost touch with reality in a fictional reality. I think that I can allow for skin, muscle and tissue to regen, but I have to stop at bone. I don't know what makes bones grow with us as we get older, but I do know that you can come back 1000 years later and all the tissue and such are gone...the bone is still there. Loose the bone, loose the regen. I would say stump in that case.

A thought...if the mutant gene is stored in the brain, then all you would have to do to him is take his brain and store it. Take his body and store that. Put the two together say 1000 years later and see if he were to regen then. If the Marvel guys can go WAYYYY to far, so can I. big grin

BTW...I am just old school. What is this A O A that i read in the post?

capt it up
actaully his healign fatcor is in his soul and every single cell. Also he can gorw back limb's and has been stated as such. He also has gorwn his head, back and has also grown his claws back before as well.

poncho73
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully his healign fatcor is in his soul and every single cell. Also he can gorw back limb's and has been stated as such. He also has gorwn his head, back and has also grown his claws back before as well.

OK...now I do hope that you see how totally ridiculous that is don't you.
Grow back your HEAD??? confused

And grow back something that isn't grown in the first place??? Claws??? that is the most idiotic thing that I have heard of. I have always had trouble with the explanation of a hero across multiple platforms, because they start trying to one up each other or outright refuse to acknowledge each others additions.

stickman618
he's always had claws

anywayz

what if his body was vaporized and only his head remained, would his body grow back??

what if he was split right down the middle, which half would grow back??

what if only a hand remained, would his entire body grow back from his hand?

(all of course assuming he has no adamantium)

Immortality
I agree with Poncho, all that sounds ridiculous!
I really doubt Wolverine's an immortal, I don't think he'd be able to regenerate if whole limbs were to be cut off.

MR.Grum
he can grow back from a singal cell in like 6-8 pannels no expression

MR.Grum
Originally posted by Immortality
I agree with Poncho, all that sounds ridiculous!
I really doubt Wolverine's an immortal, I don't think he'd be able to regenerate if whole limbs were to be cut off. blasphemy!

poncho73
We know that wolverine was picked primarily because of his healing ability. This allowed the grafting of the metal to his skeleton. I was just thinking of a couple of things as I read the replies. Some may remember an issue of one of the spiderman comics in which Spidey gets pissed at Doc Oct because he hurts the Black Cat. Spidey Rips the arms out of Doc and throws them away. That reminded me of when Magneto levitates Wolverine in the movie. What if Mags just went nuts and ripped the metal out of wolverine sorta like the security guard in part 2.

The other thing that I thought about was video games and RPG board games. The limit to being able to regen is usually directly related to a persons system. If you think about it like HP (health points), as long as a person has HPs, he can regen...when those points get too low, he can't. So if this is the case, the load that was put on Wolvie would have had to make him collapse from exhaustion after the Phoenix' onslaught in the movie.

Oh BTW....the "cancellation kid" would have been the perfect defense against Phoenix. He would only need to get near her and her powers would be nullified. Then just stick her with one of those needles and problem solved.

MR.Grum
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully his healign fatcor is in his soul and every single cell. Also he can gorw back limb's and has been stated as such. He also has gorwn his head, back and has also grown his claws back before as well. that whole claw thing was when he had bone claws if some one comes and breaks them now there aint no growing back unless he still has his bones under there and even then bone claws suck

argesilen
His regeneration abillity can't be in his every cell, it's just stupid, what if for example would left 2 cells, and both of them would form Wolverine in adult form, so there would be 2 W. Well, why not tear wolverione into 1000000 cells so the world would be flooded with superheoes. By the way, that would mean that there are some written evidence in his cell about his age, so it would reproduce old Wolverine not the baby. And also, the brain is organ that controle his regeneration, or at least it should be, because Wolverine is a human, not just an ameboid structure being who can regenerate when he's cut in half....

stickman618
if he were immortal, he would be classified as omega-level

like MR.IMMORTAL, right?

capt it up
fact logan is immortal ( issue 48)
fact logan regrow his head ( issue 32)

nothign to debate here really

stickman618
another thing

why were people so confused about whether or not logan had bone claws originally?
he obviously had the necessary muscles to move them, i mean, you can't just put metal there and expect it to move by will

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by stickman618
another thing

why were people so confused about whether or not logan had bone claws originally?
he obviously had the necessary muscles to move them, i mean, you can't just put metal there and expect it to move by will

It's Wolverine, anything is possible. big grin

sapphiremouse
Originally posted by stickman618
another thing

why were people so confused about whether or not logan had bone claws originally?
he obviously had the necessary muscles to move them, i mean, you can't just put metal there and expect it to move by will Actually in the beginning....before he's complete origin was told, he didnt have bone claws. Muscle tendons and ligaments were attached to the adamantium claws in his forearms. its shown in the weapons and vehicles handbook. but that info is like 20 years old and guess doesnt apply to nowadays. kind of cheesey.

Its all about story lines that sell the book. Marvel cant keep anything consistant with original marvel handbook facts, like 20 years ago. Everything gets bended around to sell an idea, even its far fetched.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by poncho73
That reminded me of when Magneto levitates Wolverine in the movie. What if Mags just went nuts and ripped the metal out of wolverine sorta like the security guard in part 2.

That's already happened.

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magnetoripslogansadamantiumoutqy9.jpg

Arachnid1
Originally posted by The Pict
then he'll come back to life wink

Accually, depends on the version. Its already been stated that Ultimate version can be killed via suffacation. Not sure about the 616 version.

Arachnid1
Originally posted by MR.Grum
he can grow back from a singal cell in like 6-8 pannels no expression

I thought he was a god then. But he was burnt to his adamantium skeleton. All melted off. Then he regenerated... blink

stickman618
he is immortal in the sense that elves in "THE LORD OF THE RINGS" are immortal

he'll live forever unless he's killed

the question is... how do you kill him??

Ptr_Grifin
Originally posted by poncho73
I have read the entire thread and I have to say that because of respins over the years and as someone mention before, the appeasement of the wolverine fans, they have lost touch with reality in a fictional reality. I think that I can allow for skin, muscle and tissue to regen, but I have to stop at bone. I don't know what makes bones grow with us as we get older, but I do know that you can come back 1000 years later and all the tissue and such are gone...the bone is still there. Loose the bone, loose the regen. I would say stump in that case.



When Wolverine didn't have metal, his bone claws were broken off, and they grew back.

Most people think Wolverine is over rated, but Iceman has survived as a head until he was able to find a water source.

Hulk can now grow gills and regenerate almost just from bones.

capt it up
Originally posted by stickman618
he is immortal in the sense that elves in "THE LORD OF THE RINGS" are immortal

he'll live forever unless he's killed

the question is... how do you kill him??
no I mean like when he dies he can keep comming back

guy222
Originally posted by steverules
Title says it all

on par or greater than the hulk

Kjetil_Norway
Reading Origin, Weapon X, and other litterature, the origial idea of his healing factor much more limited than the one we're seeing today. But this is somewhat explained through origin with that as he grows older his healing factor increases. But according to his original creator, if his heart stopped completely, he'd die. He would normally regenerate even his bones. In an alternate reality he'd lost his arm because cyclops burned it of, and it did not regrow because of the adamantium that melted into the wound (if my memory doesn't fail me). Also, the more damaged his body gets, the more primal he gets. Oh, and the original idea was that Magneto could sense him, but not control adamantium until after he regained his powers after they got removed by Xavier (the first time).

stickman618
^
i trust that's a good solid source you got that from

starlock
Originally posted by Kjetil_Norway
Reading Origin, Weapon X, and other litterature, the origial idea of his healing factor much more limited than the one we're seeing today. But this is somewhat explained through origin with that as he grows older his healing factor increases. But according to his original creator, if his heart stopped completely, he'd die. He would normally regenerate even his bones. In an alternate reality he'd lost his arm because cyclops burned it of, and it did not regrow because of the adamantium that melted into the wound (if my memory doesn't fail me). Also, the more damaged his body gets, the more primal he gets. Oh, and the original idea was that Magneto could sense him, but not control adamantium until after he regained his powers after they got removed by Xavier (the first time).

Logan put a metal cap on his hand on purpose in the AOA storyline,he wanted a secret weapon,he would have regrown his hand(without adamantium) if he left the wound open and let it heal(if my memory does not fail me hehe)

stickman618
i don't know what to believe anymore wacko

nathan168
anyone know where I can get this series? I cant find it anywhere in stores cuz its kind of old,
and I can't seem to find any seeds for the download I got off mininova

thanks!

nathan168
Ops posted on wrong post
sorry

hunter_blake05
cutting his head off? I'm sure he's dead in that case. why yuriko in x2 killed through the liquid adamentuim in her body.

stickman618
because the adamantium must've surrounded her heart, lungs and other vital organs rendering her unable to breathe

Battlehammer
had hsi heart blown up in secret war..............and was back up on the next paage.


had his head cut off in ww2................and survived.


aoa is not 616. also aoa wolverine purposly stop his arm from growing back.

stickman618
he'd definitely die if he was sitting next to a H2 bomb when it goes off right?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by stickman618
he'd definitely die if he was sitting next to a H2 bomb when it goes off right?

he just come back. He got hit with a nuke once lol.

stickman618
are you serious?

mr.smiley
I think Wolverine has become a victim of inconsistant writing in terms of his healing factor.Almost every writter has handled the limits of it differently.The extent of his healing factor,I think,realy just depends on who's writing the character at the time.The more he is continued to be written,the more powerful it seems to become.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by stickman618
are you serious?

yes,but you have to remeber. He does die. He simply immortal in some sense. As Long as his soul does not cross over he will come back to life.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by mr.smiley
I think Wolverine has become a victim of inconsistant writing in terms of his healing factor.Almost every writter has handled the limits of it differently.The extent of his healing factor,I think,realy just depends on who's writing the character at the time.The more he is continued to be written,the more powerful it seems to become.

It is if your looking at different eras. He gotten several upgrades as have all mutants for the most part.

Faith27
Originally posted by hunter_blake05
cutting his head off? I'm sure he's dead in that case. why yuriko in x2 killed through the liquid adamentuim in her body.

nice idea huh...

Battlehammer
head off wouldent work back a few issues ago,but right now we do not know how powerfull Logans healing factor is now

JasonK4
Originally posted by Battlehammer
head off wouldent work back a few issues ago,but right now we do not know how powerfull Logans healing factor is now
He survived an explosion in wolverine #62.

Battlehammer
nice

stickman618
he was reduced to his skeleton twice

once in the mainstream universe, he healed up and survived

and once in Days of Future Past, he died

talk about inconsistency

Battlehammer
Originally posted by stickman618
he was reduced to his skeleton twice

once in the mainstream universe, he healed up and survived

and once in Days of Future Past, he died

talk about inconsistency
actaully he been reduced to a skeleton more then twice.


also days of the future past was an alternate universe. He did not die either, there was another arc later and Logan had survived.

stickman618
oh, didn't know that

Battlehammer
Originally posted by stickman618
oh, didn't know that
ya it came about in the 90's.

Genosha
I think it's pretty well understood at this point that he's practically vampire indestructable. Somehow Deadpool's healing factor is supposed to be the most powerfull in a mortal. I know for sure that he got over having a broken neck.

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