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who wins? i keep forgetting that Elektra has super powers of some sort. So i give the edge to her though Batgirl from what I read can do sooooooo many things that is above human peak max level.

Gotta give this one to Cassie.

Elektra for the win

NOPE!

Elektra will win

Its like Cass fighting a version of Lady Shiva with telepathy (among other things) except Elektra isn't her mother so she won't puss out like Shiva does in all their fights.

Cassie for the win.

screw the hollywood electra the REAL elecktra is a killer and she wont lose to batgirl

Batgirl

Batgirl spends the rest of her life eating through a tube in a hospital bed

She wins.

Elektra wins. She pulls out all the ninja stuff and Cass doesn't know which way is up.

BATGIRL DOES THE SAME AND WINS!!!!

Originally posted by batdude123
BATGIRL DOES THE SAME AND WINS!!!!

Oh, I must have missed those issues. Where exactly did Cass get telepathy?

Originally posted by marvelprince
Oh, I must have missed those issues. Where exactly did Cass get telepathy?

Since she was able to perceive other people's moves and actions BEFORE they make them.

That was never considered telepathy. She read body language. Good boxers can do the same. Maybe not to the same extent, but they still can.

Originally posted by batdude123
Since she was able to perceive other people's moves and actions BEFORE they make them.

Thats cute. But Cass is not psychic. She can only read movements to anticiapte where you will go. Actually when a psychic gave Cassie the ability to speak she lost that gift and couldn't even beat an egg. A lil mind tampering and Cass is done

Originally posted by marvelprince
Thats cute. But Cass is not psychic. She can only read movements to anticiapte where you will go. Actually when a psychic gave Cassie the ability to speak she lost that gift and couldn't even beat an egg. A lil mind tampering and Cass is done

Um, Cassie regained that ability. And Elektra doesn't have telepathy on the level of being able to screw with somebody's mind. She just does the same thing Cassie does; perceive moves before they make it. The only difference is that I think Cassie is the better fighter.

Originally posted by Soljer
That was never considered telepathy. She read body language. Good boxers can do the same. Maybe not to the same extent, but they still can.



You're comparing a girl that has spent years of ninja training developing entire portions of her brain designed for this aspect to a boxer's??? No, Cassie became a mute because she even used her speech part of the brain to develope the skill.

Batgirl wins.

Elektra has screwed with minds before she could do it to Cass if she so wished.

Also part of Elektra's training was to learn how to not telegraph her movements it is possible that Cass might not even be able to read her at all... or at least have problems with it.

Originally posted by batdude123


You're comparing a girl that has spent years of ninja training developing entire portions of her brain designed for this aspect to a boxer's??? No, Cassie became a mute because she even used her speech part of the brain to develope the skill.

Why not? If I can compare the Hulk's strength to a weight lifters, I can certain compare the body-language-reading-skills of Cassie to that of a boxer. A boxer can do the same thing as cassie, she can just do it much better. A weight lifter can do the same thing as the hulk, the hulk can just do it much better.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Elektra has screwed with minds before she could do it to Cass if she so wished.

Also part of Elektra's training was to learn how to not telegraph her movements it is possible that Cass might not even be able to read her at all... or at least have problems with it.

Yes, but Cassie also has ninja abilities and tricks taught to her by David Cain.

Not to mention she has gadgets in her belt.

Originally posted by Soljer
Why not? If I can compare the Hulk's strength to a weight lifters, I can certain compare the body-language-reading-skills of Cassie to that of a boxer. A boxer can do the same thing as cassie, she can just do it much better. A weight lifter can do the same thing as the hulk, the hulk can just do it much better.

The reason why she's much better is because she has developed large sections of her brain in order to accomplish it.

Originally posted by batdude123
The reason why she's much better is because she has developed large sections of her brain in order to accomplish it.



And the reason the Hulk is much better is because he was irradiated by gamma. I don't understand your point.

Cassie still isn't superhuman in any way shape or form.

Originally posted by Soljer
And the reason the Hulk is much better is because he was irradiated by gamma. I don't understand your point.

Cassie still isn't superhuman in any way shape or form.

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Yes she is.

Originally posted by batdude123
Um, Cassie regained that ability. And Elektra doesn't have telepathy on the level of being able to screw with somebody's mind. She just does the same thing Cassie does; perceive moves before they make it. The only difference is that I think Cassie is the better fighter.

Wrong. Elektra is a low level telepath and she has before many times used her powers to slow down her opponents, generate illusions, make people forget and induce emotions like fear and sleep. Look it up. Its not as intense as someonelike say Emma Forst or Jean (cause its not a mutation its her entensive knowledge of "dark" ninja tricks) but its enough to sufficiently take care of Batgirl. And I never said Cassie no longer has that abilitiy, I know she regained it thanks to Shiva. Point was that without her abilitiy to read moves she pretty worthless.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yes, but Cassie also has ninja abilities and tricks taught to her by David Cain.

Not to mention she has gadgets in her belt.

Her ninja tricks are nothing at all compared to what Elektra can do.

Does she even use those gadgets? Barely. I don't she even knows how

Originally posted by marvelprince
Wrong. Elektra is a low level telepath and she has before many times used her powers to slow down her opponents, generate illusions, make people forget and induce emotions like fear and sleep. Look it up. Its not as intense as someonelike say Emma Forst or Jean (cause its not a mutation its her entensive knowledge of "dark" ninja tricks) but its enough to sufficiently take care of Batgirl. And I never said Cassie no longer has that abilitiy, I know she regained it thanks to Shiva. Point was that without her abilitiy to read moves she pretty worthless.

Christ it's about time someone else who knows what Eletkra can do showed up on these forums.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Christ it's about time someone else who knows what Eletkra can do showed up on these forums.

Omg. Have I truly found you. Someone else who knows what Elektra is capable of and why she's superior to Bat-(insert feminine gender of choice here). My search has ended

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Christ it's about time someone else who knows what Eletkra can do showed up on these forums. lol.....elektra recently pwned wolverine...

Would Elektra's telepathy even work on Cassie's brain?

Originally posted by King KAM
lol.....elektra recently pwned wolverine...

A half dead Wolverine who was being kept alive by machines moments before and was already in the middle of a fight. Go Elektra!

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
A half dead Wolverine who was being kept alive by machines moments before and was already in the middle of a fight. Go Elektra! wolverine didnt seem slowed down in the least bit considering shortly after he gutted a shark.

Originally posted by batdude123
Would Elektra's telepathy even work on Cassie's brain?

Why wouldn't it? Didn't Batgirl learn to speak by aid of a psychic? Besides it might actually be easier for Elektra to get into Batgirl's mind since she's a trained fighter (might not snound like it makes sense but she mentioned it Enemy of State)

new batgirl will murder Elektra .she ripped a guy atoms apple out when she was 6

Elektra severed a mans arm by throwing her sai into the barrel of his hand gun... she did it with so much force that the severed arm was then propelled through his chest. When Cass does this we can talk.

Elektra wins.

Here telepathic abilites allow he to know here opponets mvoes before she makes them. This ability allows her to dodge things only superhumans could dodge sorta like DD sense, but in a way better.

Batgirl gots absolutly nuthing on Elektra. Batgirl can read people body language which is good and all, but Elektra can know ever move u make before u make it. He can pry into ur mind and know the move u will make 3 move before u make it.

Every time batgirl reads Elektra body which will be extremely difficult due to the fact Elektra has trained so that fighters can not do that, Eletra will simply read cassie mind and counter the counter with extreme ease.

Also cassie fighting skill are nuthign compared to that of Elektra. As I recall when Cassi lost her abilities to read body language, she was not even aloud to patrol.

Elektra would destroy Cassi quite easiliy.

Well. If Elektra is a highly skilled martial artist, who is also a low level telepath....

Even wolverine was beaten originally by Mr. X... who has the same "stats" as elektra. Mind you the only way wolverine got around that was to go savage and not have a mind... I don't think cassie has that luxury.

Elektra wins.

I think Elektra can also take over someone else's body like Inno of Naruto.

bump for curiosity

Originally posted by rotiart
Well. If Elektra is a highly skilled martial artist, who is also a low level telepath....

Even wolverine was beaten originally by Mr. X... who has the same "stats" as elektra. Mind you the only way wolverine got around that was to go savage and not have a mind... I don't think cassie has that luxury.

Elektra is not a highly skilled martial artist, shes a MASTER martial artist.

And she takes this bout.

Batgirl. If it's Cass.

elektra ftw via her mental manipulation for misdirection complete control of her automatic functions making it harder for batgirl to big up on.

Elektra.

I used to think Batgirl, now I favour Elektra. I like her more.

Batgirl should take this

Good fight.

Cass wins.