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DC or Marvel but no higher than normal Galactus.


let's hear it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
DC or Marvel but no higher than normal Galactus.


let's hear it.
Many people try to lower it a little just because there is no magic doen't mean RKT can't beat him

current Silver Surfer

alot of cosmic power people - dr.doom with prep, mr.fanatsic wid nullifier

Lower it?

My bad I forgot to mention...this is pre-crisis Superman.

Odin, Thanos, current Cyborg Superman(5 GL rings), RKT, Tyrant, a well written Darkseid.

Rogue with prep.

Love the sig. tohsw00t

Originally posted by Tassadar
Odin, Thanos, current Cyborg Superman(5 GL rings), RKT, Tyrant, a well written Darkseid.

Odin takes pre-supes with no weaknesses?

Thanos is tuff but I think not.

Cyborg Superman?

This is pre-Supes with no weakness.

RKT?
Much to debate on this.

Wasn't Tyrant was above normal Galactus?

no one really he would be unstoppable.

The Hulk should do it. Now before you guys eat at me, The Hulk just gets stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger AND stronger so he could out last the power of the supermassive star.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Odin takes pre-supes with no weaknesses?

Thanos is tuff but I think not.

Cyborg Superman?

This is pre-Supes with no weakness.

RKT?
Much to debate on this.

Tyrant was above normal Galactus?

Yes, Odin beats him even with the jobber aura.
Supes powers mean nothing to Thanos, he has fought people who are faster (SS), stronger (the Hulk), and more powerful (Odin, Galactus) and held his own, mainly because he is a lot smarter than them.
How is Superman, even pre-crisis, going to beat himself with a healing factor and 5 GL rings? GL rings arent magic, nor do they use red sun or kryptonite radiation.
RKT is equal to Odin.
Tyrant was slighlty below normal Galactus.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Odin takes pre-supes with no weaknesses?

Thanos is tuff but I think not.

Cyborg Superman?

This is pre-Supes with no weakness.

RKT?
Much to debate on this.

Wasn't Tyrant was above normal Galactus?

Full Powered Tyrant was on pa with normal Galactus.

Originally posted by loosecano
no one really he would be unstoppable.

A being with no weaknesses and who could (eg) extinguish stars as easily as you or I could blow out a candle? Certainly, I don't think any version of Thor or Surfer could take him.

Classical Thor still got what it takes, Mjolnir has an array of powers plus Thor's physical stats which will be enough, magic vulnerability or not.
Thanos
Silver Surfer
Dr. Strange

Originally posted by K3VIL
Classical Thor still got what it takes, Mjolnir has an array of powers plus Thor's physical stats which will be enough, magic vulnerability or not.
Thanos
Silver Surfer
Dr. Strange


Here is the hulk after he beat classic thor





http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2883/thormt385q1wi.jpg

^^ it looks like hulk is running away

Because he wasn't angry anymore

how do u do the sigs
neron can beat him within his life

Originally posted by Priest
^^ it looks like hulk is running away




Then why isnt thor chaseing him, and if you read it it looks like the hulk just whooped thor.

Originally posted by SuperChangeling
Then why isnt thor chaseing him, and if you read it it looks like the hulk just whooped thor.



i read that comic, the fight was fairly even.

I would give the Surfer, and Rune King Thor odds against him for sure.

With NO Red Sun, KNite or Magic weaknesses?

Well... seeing as in Pre-Crisis times, those things were literally the ONLY things that could hurt him...

Almost nothing would beat him.

He is faster than Surfer.
As strong as the Hulk.
And (in this fight) as invulnerable as Juggernaut.

Plus, he can move through time and dimensions with absolute ease.

Only something mega high on the cosmic scale, like Big G, Non Jobbing Darkseid or Dr Strange, would be able to take him on, by manipulating reality itself.

Hal still beats him

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
With NO Red Sun, KNite or Magic weaknesses?

Well... seeing as in Pre-Crisis times, those things were literally the ONLY things that could hurt him...

Almost nothing would beat him.

He is faster than Surfer.
As strong as the Hulk.
And (in this fight) as invulnerable as Juggernaut.

Plus, he can move through time and dimensions with absolute ease.

Only something mega high on the cosmic scale, like Big G, Non Jobbing Darkseid or Dr Strange, would be able to take him on, by manipulating reality itself.
How is he faster than Surfer?

Originally posted by Accel
How is he faster than Surfer?

It's Pre-Crisis Superman.

You ever read Pre-Crisis Superman?

He can fly at any speed he needs to. Including across the ENTIRE universe, ie millions upon millions of light years, in moments.

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
It's Pre-Crisis Superman.

You ever read Pre-Crisis Superman?

He can fly at any speed he needs to. Including across the ENTIRE universe, ie millions upon millions of light years, in moments.
The fastest I'v ever seen him fly was 10X the speed of light and he treated it like it was a huge accomplishment. Besides, Surfer has also traveled across the entire universe in a short period.

Silver Surfer

or

Rogue

Originally posted by Reaper777
Silver Surfer

or

Rogue

No and no. Surfer only beats him by bathing him in red sun or k-nite radiation, or taking all his energy like he does to the Hulk. And Rogue, on her best day, could not beat Superman.

pre-crisis superman wasn't ALWAYS so ludicrously powered. he had some wicked low showings.

Originally posted by SuperChangeling
The Hulk should do it. Now before you guys eat at me, The Hulk just gets stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger AND stronger so he could out last the power of the supermassive star.

You're such a douche.

Originally posted by Tassadar
No and no. Surfer only beats him by bathing him in red sun or k-nite radiation, or taking all his energy like he does to the Hulk. And Rogue, on her best day, could not beat Superman.

i guarentee rogue could take him
ill give her an 8/10 chance.

Originally posted by Reaper777
i guarentee rouge could take him

No, she couldn't.

Originally posted by Reaper777
i guarentee rogue could take him

Rouge = Overrated

think what you want, thats just my opinion

Jimmy olsen would lay superman down.

All Star Doomsday (aka Jimmy Olsen) pwned All Star Superman

All Star Supes >>> Pre Crisis Supes

Originally posted by batdude123
With prep you can't use outside help. Well is stealing really considered outside help?

Originally posted by Mr Master
My bad I forgot to mention...this is pre-crisis Superman.

He would pimp most anyone. PC Supes was ridiculous. Taking away his weaknesses means he kicks the crap out of virutally everyone imaginable below normal powered Galactus.

Imagine how absurd this sounds.....

Odin: Thor, an intruder thou darest to invade our kingdom?

Thor: Yes, thy father. I'll handle this.

PC Supes (under these circumstances because he could be written any way possible to ensure): *takes blast from Moljinor...yawns......inhales Asgard in one breath and releases it as a super fart*

Bye-bye Asgard.

That how ridiculous PC Supes would be under these circumstances.

YAY SUPER FARTS!

Originally posted by Reaper777
YAY SUPER FARTS!

Seriously, it would be a joke.

Someone already mentioned Doomsday defeating Superman who buried him in kryptonite keeping him frozen till they recovered his remains and ressurected him.
Lobo is also hard to beat when he teamed up with Superman that was a good read both of them can't die because Lobo is dead already and Superman has God genes

Originally posted by BobbyD
He would pimp most anyone. PC Supes was ridiculous. Taking away his weaknesses means he kicks the crap out of virutally everyone imaginable below normal powered Galactus.

Imagine how absurd this sounds.....

Odin: Thor, an intruder thou darest to invade our kingdom?

Thor: Yes, thy father. I'll handle this.

PC Supes (under these circumstances because he could be written any way possible to ensure): *takes blast from Moljinor...yawns......inhales Asgard in one breath and releases it as a super fart*

Bye-bye Asgard.

That how ridiculous PC Supes would be under these circumstances.



War-Hulk and HP Doomsday could possibly injure PC Superman, but not kill him.

Originally posted by SuperChangeling
The Hulk should do it. Now before you guys eat at me, The Hulk just gets stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger and stronger AND stronger so he could out last the power of the supermassive star.

I don't want to say it... but ... you're an idiot. stop it. I'm not even sure if you're really for hulk or against him anymore. at first i thought you were a fanboy. but now you sound like someone thats just looking to give hulk a bruising.

BTW. PC superman, without any weaknesses was about normal galactus level... and now you're saying noone as strong as normal galactus...

PC superman destroys it all.

PC Supes is a joke. I really have no respect for him at that era.

Warhulk would be a flea to a man that flies through black holes like their nothing..

Originally posted by Big Sexy
PC Supes is a joke. I really have no respect for him at that era. [/Q

Why? Is it because he was ultimate and would murder any version of thor

onslaught would take him out

he would murder lt given the right writers... this is the guy that broke into heaven... righhhhhttt...?

Originally posted by sexyking
Originally posted by Big Sexy
PC Supes is a joke. I really have no respect for him at that era. actually no, its because he came from one of the most mediocre era's in comics. The majority of the stories suck as well as the art. But I guess you must love him because none of that matters as long as superman is the best and wins

Originally posted by sexyking
Originally posted by Big Sexy
PC Supes is a joke. I really have no respect for him at that era. I guess if a comic with a sentient toothpick that kills everyone came out, youd buy it.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I guess if a comic with a sentient toothpick that kills everyone came out, youd buy it.

Woah relax there bud i was just kidding no need to jump on the defensive wagon, and yes a comic with a sentient toothpick would be cool send that idea over to DC.

Originally posted by rotiart
he would murder lt given the right writers... this is the guy that broke into heaven... righhhhhttt...?


no, what you are talking about is Superman Prime. He is the ultimate Superman version and is basically a GOD!!!!! He broke into heaven to bring back Lois. Superman Prime is all shiny in Gold while Lois is shiny in Silver. Strange seeing them together in the future like that.

Originally posted by sexyking
Woah relax there bud i was just kidding no need to jump on the defensive wagon, and yes a comic with a sentient toothpick would be cool send that idea over to DC. My bad, its just that he is a superman fanboys wet dream but frankly to me he sucks. Superweaving, getting into heaven, things like him fighting a mutated jimmy olsen on 20 different occasions, lois wanting to know what its like to be black, lois becoming a horse, superwoman, man, and dying in 20 different issues, I just can't give Pre Supes any respect. Hes like a serious bugs bunny, the only problem being Bugs was never supposed to be serious.

Hey now, your degrading Bugs Bunny by mentioning him in the same sentence with PC Supes, LOL

the runner with the space gem

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Hey now, your degrading Bugs Bunny by mentioning him in the same sentence with PC Supes, LOL Snagglepuss is better than. I hated him and huckleberry hound growing up.

kubik

Kubik is a cosmic cube given form essentially... That is SOOO at least on the scale of normal galactus.

kubik stats himself that he is not as powerful as the "greater powers"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubik

Since they are all evolved "Cosmic Cubes," Kubik's might is presumably equal to that of the Shaper of Worlds and to that of Kosmos, the entity that is the combination of the Beyonder and the Molecule Man.

Kubik's power was capable of creating at least a duplicate of Earth (and its people) and the sun from the matter in a pocket dimension. Hence, Kubik may be more powerful than beings such as Odin, Zues and the Watcher Uatu, who have not been shown to be capable of such feats.

Kubik has stated that his power as a highly evolved cosmic cube pales in comparison to that of the "Great Powers" of the universe. Some of those beings considered "great powers" by Kubik are the Celestials, Eternity, Death, Galactus, and the Living Tribunal. Presumably, Kubik is also less powerful than the true Beyonders who created him in the first place.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubik"

The thread is no more powerful than normal Galactus.. Galactus as a greater power would be full powered galactus.. Kubik is stated to be more powerful than Watchers and skyfathers.... wheres the line.

Spartan

he could just teleport shards of crap into his head......

Originally posted by rotiart
Since they are all evolved "Cosmic Cubes," Kubik's might is presumably equal to that of the Shaper of Worlds and to that of Kosmos, the entity that is the combination of the Beyonder and the Molecule Man.

Kubik's power was capable of creating at least a duplicate of Earth (and its people) and the sun from the matter in a pocket dimension. Hence, Kubik may be more powerful than beings such as Odin, Zues and the Watcher Uatu, who have not been shown to be capable of such feats.

Kubik has stated that his power as a highly evolved cosmic cube pales in comparison to that of the "Great Powers" of the universe. Some of those beings considered "great powers" by Kubik are the Celestials, Eternity, Death, Galactus, and the Living Tribunal. Presumably, Kubik is also less powerful than the true Beyonders who created him in the first place.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubik"

The thread is no more powerful than normal Galactus.. Galactus as a greater power would be full powered galactus.. Kubik is stated to be more powerful than Watchers and skyfathers.... wheres the line.

it doesnt stat that it is full powered galactus...i was putting kubik above odin and between normal powered galactus

ABC logic. Normal powered Galactus = Normal Tyrant = Odin as both fought Thanos and did little more than ruin his clothes. Even Thanos fighting a being considered to be 2x galactus was able to withstand that things full assault.

Thanos has knocked down the real galactus before.
Normal Galactus is usually beaten by only the FF4 and silver surfer....

Normal Galactus is generally hungry.