A United World?

Started by The Black Ghost2 pages

A United World?

I beleive there is a chance to one day bring about the uniting of everything, all countries, peoples, and cultures under a single world order with a single common goal of livng and under a set of morals and beleifs. How? Very slowly, without suspicion, because the truth is, under everything in everyone there is a common amount of beleifs, possibly suppressed or deep down, but they exist. All it takes is to locate what those are and be able to pull them out of anyone, even crazy terrorists like Bin Laden (though a lot for religious reasons) beleives what he is doing is right and shares those same beleifs. In small areas at first, all one would have to do is create a mutual feeling for a government or society that tugs at those beleifs and for a short while those people are all there for the same reason, on the same side. By using this to gain a majority of a populace on a similiar beleif, that group can be matched to others elsewhere to create a larger one, so on and so forth until there is a chance to create large sections of populations that can understand that they share something in common. Then it only takes something to put those larger parts together, and under some common form of leadership.

Very unlikely.... were are always being to busy killing ourselves.

"Only the dead have seen the end of the war."
-Plato

But there is a chance. Just takes someone willing to make a change that no one esle can.

eventually a world government will take place. it would seem unlikely but it will happen because some leaders or countries won't solve any problems.

The League of Nations, the current UN and EU all had or have that final goal somewhere back in closet, even if never said. Problem is, all three had already failed before they started. There needs to be someone, something, stronger to connect and for a while, control everything while individuals can break the cultural tension enough to make a frail peace, which can be worked on in the future. Even if by force, someday, a world order will be needed to simply create some sense of stability.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
I beleive there is a chance to one day bring about the uniting of everything, all countries, peoples, and cultures under a single world order with a single common goal of livng and under a set of morals and beleifs. How? Very slowly, without suspicion, because the truth is, under everything in everyone there is a common amount of beleifs, possibly suppressed or deep down, but they exist. All it takes is to locate what those are and be able to pull them out of anyone, even crazy terrorists like Bin Laden (though a lot for religious reasons) beleives what he is doing is right and shares those same beleifs. In small areas at first, all one would have to do is create a mutual feeling for a government or society that tugs at those beleifs and for a short while those people are all there for the same reason, on the same side. By using this to gain a majority of a populace on a similiar beleif, that group can be matched to others elsewhere to create a larger one, so on and so forth until there is a chance to create large sections of populations that can understand that they share something in common. Then it only takes something to put those larger parts together, and under some common form of leadership.

Well a global government well made could be very good... Hardly a philosophical discussion though.

Who said only a goverment? There is far more that could be done to reform society in general than simply the government. There are basic ways of influencing morals, values, rules; that are rarely touched by government nowadays.

A united world is a good idea, but it is only theory. There is no practical way to unite the world right now.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
A united world is a good idea, but it is only theory. There is no practical way to unite the world right now.

Theire are many signs it's gonna happen

Formation of the european union is the first evidence, The north american union has been anounced and I'm pretty sure more unions will form.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Theire are many signs it's gonna happen

Formation of the european union is the first evidence, The north american union has been anounced and I'm pretty sure more unions will form.

Of course, despite these so-called coalitions, there is no real unity (although I will say it is quite a step up) and it will take something much stronger to actually make a change that will be able to do something. Hopefully someday it will become a reality.

Whenever I read Orson Scott Card's Bean series of the Enderverse, I always think about this. I believe it's possible, but I don't see it happening soon.

We've made baby steps(the forming of the UN, for example). It'll just take a lot more of them.

Originally posted by MyOwnMuse
Whenever I read Orson Scott Card's Bean series of the Enderverse, I always think about this. I believe it's possible, but I don't see it happening soon.

We've made baby steps(the forming of the UN, for example). It'll just take a lot more of them.

Yeah, I like those books.

It's Human Nature to destroy ourselves, it will never happen, and the UN is a failure, and will soon collapse

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
It's Human Nature to destroy ourselves, it will never happen, and the UN is a failure, and will soon collapse

You certainly have a bleak view of things...

Originally posted by Darth Kreiger
It's Human Nature to destroy ourselves.

Did you get that from Terminator 2 😂

umm anyways. . .. 😐

I think it will happen but not for a long time.

I would say maybe in a couple of generations. it's in an infancy stage right now.

Not in this existence. World government is a delusion. The UN won't survive the next 20 years intact.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Formation of the european union is the first evidence, The north american union has been anounced and I'm pretty sure more unions will form.
North American Union? Of three countires? Pointless. Now the Western Hemisphere Union (minus the poor nations), that'd be something.

A unified world will never work for the same reason that anarchy and pure communism and direct democracy will never work. Humans as a whole are morons. Plain and simple

Well it worked in Star Wars - 100,000s of planets under control of a chancellor...

I believe that, with sufficient technology (since communication and control would be vital) and sufficient dedication from the populous (if it were to be a democracy) that a United, or federated world would be both logical and advantageous.

Theoretically it could be possible. Theoretically there are those that have offered examples of how a very large nation can be governed just as well as a tiny one, by rights it should be possible to add another level (at the moment it usually being national, state, local - you would add global, national, state, local.) Or simply redraw the map altogether - no more nations, just regions or provences or states answering to a global government council. Not a single nation ruling the world (as that would be empire) but rather a reprasentitive government drawn from all nations.

Of course get things necessarily together is the problem, and no nation seems interested in making the necessary sacrifice of its own sovereign power to a higher political power (the UN and similar) - still, globalisation, Trans and multinationals, the world village and interconnectivity of communication are a step in the right direction and with any luck one day we will have a unite species - mankind as one, not mankind as hundreds of squabbling nations.