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Done correctly, with her normal Powers and Weapons Vs. Him with his NORMAL powers.

She now also carries the sword of hephestious with her as well.

sword helps her but she still losses

Originally posted by lilnutta12
sword helps her but she still losses
Explain how? I need an explaination.

she isnt enough s match for adams speed or strength or durabillitymost categories infact.

she will be conquered here and kept as a slave lol - no just beaten

this is still going on. its on the same page111
why make a new one?

Originally posted by lilnutta12
she isnt enough s match for adams speed or strength or durabillitymost categories infact.

she will be conquered here and kept as a slave lol - no just beaten

Wait, isn't he an exact match for Captain Marvel? Doesn't CM have the speed of Mercury? WW is faster than Hermes. CM has the strength of Hercules. Wonder Woman is Stronger than Hercules and has the strength of Demeter and Geae. So exactly when did he out match her. And with her force field, isn't she more durable than him. The sword means an offense that he can't match. So when did she all of a sudden be so easily be beaten by someone who can't even fight as good as her? Explain.

because the other one is full of off topic talks...

BA is equal to CM who though your logic could be correct (I dont knw enough about the respective gods) is always portrayed to be = Superman. And Superman>Wonderman by a slight margin.
Add in the fact that he can shazam lightning rod her, or use the lightning and punch her with it (as done when he fought Spectre).

So in those words and ways BA=Superman=CM who all > Wonderman by a margin.

Then you add in the his wisdom, plus his personality into the fight and you have yourself a 6-7 match in BAs favor

Originally posted by Blair Wind
because the other one is full of off topic talks...

BA is equal to CM who though your logic could be correct (I dont knw enough about the respective gods) is always portrayed to be = Superman. And Superman>Wonderman by a slight margin.
Add in the fact that he can shazam lightning rod her, or use the lightning and punch her with it (as done when he fought Spectre).

So in those words and ways BA=Superman=CM who all > Wonderman by a margin.

Then you add in the his wisdom, plus his personality into the fight and you have yourself a 6-7 match in BAs favor

What about her wisdom of Athena? Or her Lasso being able to turn him back into regular old Teth? does that count for something?

How would the lasso do such a thing?
Lighting from even Nabu couldnt do that:
Black Adam vs the JSA (Dr. Fate (Hector Hall), Hourman (android), Sentinel (Alan Scott), Atom-Smasher, Hawkgirl, Black Canary, Flash (Jay Garrick), Sand, Star-Sprangled Kid). Black Adam had a brain tumor at the time.

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The only thing that make him change back is Shazams lighting...which by the way could be used offensively

Show me Scan of Her turning him back into Teth.

NOW

Ugh, I am tired of the argument "BUT SHAZAM HAS A FRACTION OF THE GODS POWER! WONDER WOMAN HAS ALL OF IT!!!!"

It is ridiculous. That is like going by a characters profile, or their backstory, or something along those lines, rather than their feats. Black Adam has repeatedly taken on multiple superheros of Diana's caliber. He has also shown to be able to match Superman who, for all intensive purposes, is superior to Diana.

Hell, he went up against the Spectre for a lil' while. Black Adam is simply superior in a straight up fight.

However, when you give Wonder Woman fourteen magical weapons, it evens it up a bit.

I would say, in a straight hand to hand confrontation, Black Adam would walk away the winner, like Superman, eight or nine out of ten times.

When it comes down to her and her weapons, though? I would say Black Adam, like Superman, would still manage to pull off six or seven.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
How would the lasso do such a thing?
Lighting from even Nabu couldnt do that:
Black Adam vs the JSA (Dr. Fate (Hector Hall), Hourman (android), Sentinel (Alan Scott), Atom-Smasher, Hawkgirl, Black Canary, Flash (Jay Garrick), Sand, Star-Sprangled Kid). Black Adam had a brain tumor at the time.

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The only thing that make him change back is Shazams lighting...which by the way could be used offensively
If she gets the lasso around him, she just needs to ask him what's the name of the wizard who gave him his powers.

close this thread, if you look this thread is right beside the other ba, vs ww thread1111

Originally posted by Milkie
Show me Scan of Her turning him back into Teth.

NOW

I dont' have to, the lasso can will anyone it touches to do what she wants them to. All he'd have to do is utter the magical word at her command. NUFF SAID.

Originally posted by Soljer
Ugh, I am tired of the argument "BUT SHAZAM HAS A FRACTION OF THE GODS POWER! WONDER WOMAN HAS ALL OF IT!!!!"

It is ridiculous. That is like going by a characters profile, or their backstory, or something along those lines, rather than their feats. Black Adam has repeatedly taken on multiple superheros of Diana's caliber. He has also shown to be able to match Superman who, for all intensive purposes, is superior to Diana.

Hell, he went up against the Spectre for a lil' while. Black Adam is simply superior in a straight up fight.

However, when you give Wonder Woman fourteen magical weapons, it evens it up a bit.

I would say, in a straight hand to hand confrontation, Black Adam would walk away the winner, like Superman, eight or nine out of ten times.

When it comes down to her and her weapons, though? I would say Black Adam, like Superman, would still manage to pull off six or seven.
And Diana has taken on people of BA and Superman's caliber and even gods higher up on the food chain.

eh BA and CM have a long range attack that people never seem to think of:
http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=16ddb_summonn2.jpg

see the two electrical beings? thats them summoning lighting without turning back into Billy and Teth


and how does that really help? He can just tell the truth....twice

Is the lightning hitting them (I can't tell from the pic)?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' have to, the lasso can will anyone it touches to do what she wants them to. All he'd have to do is utter the magical word at her command. NUFF SAID.

You think it's going to be easy to get it around him?

nah....I cant get the first pic to show (I got it from someone else but its not working) they are in fact summoning it...think Storm Best I can do.
heres the one after it....Nabu saying the storm sowing brothers
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Originally posted by Milkie
You think it's going to be easy to get it around him?

She's gotten the lasso around faster people than him. And lately the person doesn't have to be ensnared, just touching it. Check out WW when the lasso was touching Donna Troy's left leg. Or in JLA when they fought Dr. Destiny and they only had to touch it to come out of thier Dream induced comas.

She can turn him back via lasso.

No Thanks.

All I'm saying is I wanna SEE it work oh him.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
nah....I cant get the first pic to show (I got it from someone else but its not working) they are in fact summoning it...think Storm Best I can do.
heres the one after it....Nabu saying the storm sowing brothers
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hes done it before as well....

So basically he can match her physically and has long range attacks.....
as she ever been able to lasso the Flash? Because BA has fought the flash before (Jay) and kept up.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
So basically he can match her physically and has long range attacks.....
as she ever been able to lasso the Flash? Because BA has fought the flash before (Jay) and kept up.
She used the lasso to capture the faux barry allen flash who had all of barry's speed. She has also tapped directly into the speed force herself to augment her own speed.

Originally posted by Milkie
No Thanks.

All I'm saying is I wanna SEE it work oh him.

I wanna see it NOT work on his giving that it has worked on everyone else it has touched.

I wanna see it work on SBP then is it works on everyone

and exactly who where these fast guys that she lassoed

She's lassoed Flash and Zoom before.

Originally posted by Milkie
I wanna see it work on SBP then is it works on everyone
It worked on Spectre. It simply cannot be broken and affects any one caught in it.

Im still not understanding...she makes him say the truth (IF she catches him) and he just says it twice

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Im still not understanding...she makes him say the truth (IF she catches him) and he just says it twice

Wonder Woman Wins

Originally posted by Accel
It worked on Spectre. It simply cannot be broken and affects any one caught in it.

AND

Black Adam's magic worked on Spectre and not SBP

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wait, isn't he an exact match for Captain Marvel? Doesn't CM have the speed of Mercury? WW is faster than Hermes. CM has the strength of Hercules. Wonder Woman is Stronger than Hercules and has the strength of Demeter and Geae. So exactly when did he out match her. And with her force field, isn't she more durable than him. The sword means an offense that he can't match. So when did she all of a sudden be so easily be beaten by someone who can't even fight as good as her? Explain.

yes ba is a match for cm although ba gets his powers from egyption gods

Originally posted by Sea King
Wonder Woman Wins

Originally posted by Accel
She's lassoed Flash and Zoom before.

SCANS PLEASE

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Im still not understanding...she makes him say the truth (IF she catches him) and he just says it twice
As long as he's wrapped in the lasso, she can have him change back whenever she wants; not to mention she can easily take him out when he turns back into Teth.

Originally posted by Soljer


it was a joke go look at the other ww vs ba tread i said ba wins

Originally posted by Milkie
SCANS PLEASE
Go to the Wonder Woman Respect Thread. You'll find them there, I promise.

once in the lasso does it negate all powers?....plus couldnt he just take the lighting from the lasso (a la Dr. Light) like he did in the scan above where he took the lightning from the whole world....all this however is assuming that she even catches him. He can keep his distance and hit her with electricity

Originally posted by Milkie
AND

Black Adam's magic worked on Spectre and not SBP
Two completely different things. BA's magic failing doesn't mean the universe will distort. It does mean that for the lasso, however.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
once in the lasso does it negate all powers?....plus couldnt he just take the lighting from the lasso (a la Dr. Light) like he did in the scan above where he took the lightning from the whole world....all this however is assuming that she even catches him. He can keep his distance and hit her with electricity
It pretty much negates him, since any one caught in it is then under her control.

And since she's taken Zeus's lightning without any trouble, Teth's lightning won't be a problem.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
once in the lasso does it negate all powers?....plus couldnt he just take the lighting from the lasso (a la Dr. Light) like he did in the scan above where he took the lightning from the whole world....all this however is assuming that she even catches him. He can keep his distance and hit her with electricity

no it dose not.

i can say this because it was broken before

Originally posted by Sea King
no it dose not.

i can say this because it was broken before
It has been broken, but most of the times it fails are when it shouldn't. Deathstroke, for instance, just simply took it off, something not even super-powered people could do.

Originally posted by Accel
It pretty much negates him, since any one caught in it is then under her control.

And since she's taken Zeus's lightning without any trouble, Teth's lightning won't be a problem.

Zues? a continues attack or just one bolt? Teths lightning would be comparable to Zues's plus would have Shazams magical backing....

Originally posted by Accel
It has been broken, but most of the times it fails are when it shouldn't. Deathstroke, for instance, just simply took it off, something not even super-powered people could do.

yes but i think deathstrock is jut walking pis i mean that seems to be his cahr in the identy crisses he broke kyles hand

I didn't see anything

I'm not going through 50 scans that are not marked to rather he is in it or not

I have a paper to type

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Zues? a continues attack or just one bolt? Teths lightning would be comparable to Zues's plus would have Shazams magical backing....
IIRC, it was just one bolt. She shrugged it off.

Even so, she still has her bracelets to block them, as well as the tiara which would hone in on Teth as well as the cheap-ass Medusa Head.

Originally posted by Milkie
I didn't see anything

I'm not going through 50 scans that are not marked to rather he is in it or not

I have a paper to type
Okay, then...

Also show that Zeus Lightning business.

Give it Diana 6.5/10

IN order to break the lasso in CURRENT continuity, one would have to break the truth. That is why is is unbreakable. Any time it has been broken has been in an else worlds tail or by someone like the Spectre.

BA imo, still wins a healthy 6/10. He, imo, is just better than her physically, and what good does the lasso do if she can't get it around him?

Originally posted by UniOmni
BA imo, still wins a healthy 6/10. He, imo, is just better than her physically, and what good does the lasso do if she can't get it around him?

Plus if he could take all the lightning in the world couldnt he do the same with her nervous system? this is a whole new look at the Shazam powers but if they work on such a large scale why not on such a small one?

If that didnt make sense its ok I think I just pulled it up my butt....but still he has the long range attack advantage, and can physically tango with her

Black Adam wins. And i don't think he can change back by saying shazam anymore.

50/50

firefirefireph

Even against BA's lightning, WW still has her bracelets to protect her. If she can move fast enough to block Supes's heat vision, she can move fast enough to block lightning.

Whether or not she can get the lasso around him is debatable.

Originally posted by joesha28
Black Adam wins. And i don't think he can change back by saying shazam anymore.

He can he just rarely turns into Teth

Originally posted by Accel
Even against BA's lightning, WW still has her bracelets to protect her. If she can move fast enough to block Supes's heat vision, she can move fast enough to block lightning.

Whether or not she can get the lasso around him is debatable.

You mean Dodge Lightning

seriously her catching Zoom is a serious case of PIS. He's way faster than Flash. and he would see it coming from 30 miles away.

Originally posted by Milkie
You mean Dodge Lightning
No, block. Y'know, with her bracelets?

Originally posted by Accel
No, block. Y'know, with her bracelets?

Why would she move fast to Block it when she can move fast to Dodge it?

She can't block the whole of it anyway. it's too uncontrollable and will be all over the place

Originally posted by Milkie
Why would she move fast to Block it when she can move fast to Dodge it?

She can't block the whole of it anyway. it's too uncontrollable and will be all over the place
Once she crosses her bracelets, an impenetrable barrier forms around her body, meaning no lightning will touch her. That would be a lot easier than trying t dodge lightning, wouldn't you say?

No

Also

This is PIS up and down the side of your head

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1490/ww2147vszoom5qa.jpg

She kicked rocks...and put it on him...

What... The... ****...

I only have a little while to post...I'm still in Las Vegas...and it's *UCKING HOT!! Agh! We lost power like three times already....

Air conditioning is our only saving grace.


Anywoo, yes the Zoom fight WAS PIS. However I consider it more like CIS because Zoom purposefully fights to lose. He WANTS to be beaten so the hero will learn to prevail over evil. This was covered in Flash, as Wally commented on Zoom like a father purposefully losing to his ten old son.

WW wins most of the time by the way.

Lightening isn't going to do sh**. Her magical defenses are insane. She's taken shots from Zeus, Cronos and Ares. A poor man's god lightening will tickle her.

Originally posted by Draco69
I only have a little while to post...I'm still in Las Vegas...and it's *UCKING HOT!! Agh! We lost power like three times already....

Air conditioning is our only saving grace.


Anywoo, yes the Zoom fight WAS PIS. However I consider it more like CIS because Zoom purposefully fights to lose. He WANTS to be beaten so the hero will learn to prevail over evil. This was covered in Flash, as Wally commented on Zoom like a father purposefully losing to his ten old son.

WW wins most of the time by the way.

Lightening isn't going to do sh**. Her magical defenses are insane. She's taken shots from Zeus, Cronos and Ares. A poor man's god lightening will tickle her.

Poor Man's!

HA!

Get Real.

Go Cool off in the pool or something

Pools are soggy with algae and bacteria. Apparently animals decide to cool off in the pool at night...so ewww.

Compared to Skyfather-level Zeus and nearly omnipotent Cronos? Absolutely, Teth's lightening isn't nearly on the level of Zeus' lightening...and when Zeus hit WW with his lightening, he was utterly enraged. (She refused his sexual advances..the pervert.) WW withstood it and shrugged it off. Cronos? She blasted into the caverns of Olympus and she got right back up to fight him. Cronos killed angels by the way...

So, yeah. Teth's lightening isn't even going to put a hair out of place.

Though its Shazams lightning? I never really equated how powerful Shazam is next to Zues. More, less??

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Though its Shazams lightning? I never really equated how powerful Shazam is next to Zues. More, less??

It was not really explained but its up there and it's backed by magic

It's not really Shazam's lightening. Shazam was Captain Marvel before Freddie and so forth. He got HIS powers from another pantheon of gods.

The role of the Wizard is to channel an ounce of lightening of Zeus (though far weaker...) to allow the bearer to transform into Captain Marvel. The lightening represents the head god coercing the powers of other gods.

Oh and Shazam isn't anywhere near Zeus. He's a very powerful wizard granted but he's not on Zeus' scale.

I'll give you clue. Spectre attacked Shazam in his own home because he knew he was powerful enough to. But Zeus? Or any of the other Elder Gods? Nope. He wasn't messing with them. He per quote knew he couldn't face them down

Originally posted by Milkie
It was not really explained but its up there and it's backed by magic
But it's no Zues or cronos level....

Originally posted by Draco69
Pools are soggy with algae and bacteria. Apparently animals decide to cool off in the pool at night...so ewww.

Compared to Skyfather-level Zeus and nearly omnipotent Cronos? Absolutely, Teth's lightening isn't nearly on the level of Zeus' lightening...and when Zeus hit WW with his lightening, he was utterly enraged. (She refused his sexual advances..the pervert.) WW withstood it and shrugged it off. Cronos? She blasted into the caverns of Olympus and she got right back up to fight him. Cronos killed angels by the way...

So, yeah. Teth's lightening isn't even going to put a hair out of place.

I want to see scans

Originally posted by Skeets
But it's no Zues or cronos level....

How do you know?

Originally posted by Milkie
I want to see scans

As said, I'm in Vegas...sweating my internal organs through my skin....

Anyhoo, scans are impossible cause I'm on vacation.

You COULD try the WW respect thread.

Originally posted by Milkie
How do you know?
common sense really and draco's explained more than once a few pages back.Check WW's respect thread they should have the scans of her taking hits from Zeus.

Originally posted by Milkie
How do you know?

Chronos attacked Heaven itself and destroyed the Angels themselves. Angels that can create whole universes if they want to.

That speaks to his power.

Originally posted by Draco69
Chronos attacked Heaven itself and destroyed the Angels themselves. Angels that can create whole universes if they want to.

That speaks to his power.

AND

Lobo beat up Angels too

I thought it was his scythe specifically that was so dangerous??

Originally posted by Milkie
AND

Lobo beat up Angels too

It's not canon. It was meant to be a joke. Like when he killed the Justice League...they're still alive....

Originally posted by Draco69
It's not canon. It was meant to be a joke. Like when he killed the Justice League...they're still alive....

AND

Doomsday killed Superman

Hes still alive

Originally posted by Milkie
Poor Man's!

HA!

Get Real.

Go Cool off in the pool or something

Ok so now that we know WW's Force Field is better than the Juggernaut's, can we please all agree that Black Adam Can't beat WW.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I thought it was his scythe specifically that was so dangerous??

The Scythe allowed him to control the primal energies of the Godwave of the Olympian pantheon. Since he was the "father" to them all, he could use their godly energies to his will. It's merely a representation of his power. His children and descendants power is his own. Which is why he owned the Greek Pantheon since they couldn't even attack him properly.

He owned the Hindu Pantheon too before he set his sights on Heaven.

Originally posted by Milkie
AND

Doomsday killed Superman

Hes still alive


............


He came back to life. Canonically.

In the Lobo comic, the planet was destroyed, the women were turned into whores and Santa Claus was running around at large.

Santa Claus. Think.

Originally posted by Draco69
............


He came back to life. Canonically.

In the Lobo comic, the planet was destroyed, the women were turned into whores and Santa Claus was running around at large.

Santa Claus. Think.

AND

Spider-Man beat up Superman

Originally posted by Milkie
AND

Spider-Man beat up Superman
You really don't have anything else worth posting do you?

Originally posted by Milkie
AND

Spider-Man beat up Superman

............................



That never happened.....


They DID meet in the late 60s but they never really fought....

Damn you guys really need to take a break and know when to joke sometimes.

Originally posted by Milkie
Damn you guys really need to take a break and know when to joke sometimes.

And you need to realize that WW can beat the tar out of Black Adam. You just wont' admit defeat.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And you need to realize that WW can beat the tar out of Black Adam. You just wont' admit defeat.

Hate to break it to you, but no 'revelations' have come up yet. Black Adam is still superior to Wonder Woman....

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And you need to realize that WW can beat the tar out of Black Adam. You just wont' admit defeat.

Um No

Try Again

Originally posted by Soljer
Hate to break it to you, but no 'revelations' have come up yet. Black Adam is still superior to Wonder Woman....

And yet you haven't proven so.

Again. One-hit kill. WW lassoes the poor bastard and commands him to revert to his human form.

WW experiences a neck-breaking deja vu.

In strength, in regardance of difference of opinion, they are more or less even. Not so dramatically different that will tip the scales. Kind of like a level 99 Final Fantasy character facing a level 100 FF character.

In speed, it's the same as above.

In durability, it's a difference. BA's punches aren't going to do much damage and WW's won't either. It will take alot to take each other down. However BA's "edge" in magic is completely nullified here unlike his battle with Superman.

In skill, Diana is leagues above Teth.

In sheer array of battle tactics, Diana takes this too. A Wonderdome, a head of a Gorgon and several electron-cleaving weaponery earns her this right.

It will be an even battle at first, but Diana will eventually take it.

Originally posted by Draco69
And yet you haven't proven so.

Again. One-hit kill. WW lassoes the poor bastard and commands him to revert to his human form.

WW experiences a neck-breaking deja vu.

In strength, in regardance of difference of opinion, they are more or less even. Not so dramatically different that will tip the scales. Kind of like a level 99 Final Fantasy character facing a level 100 FF character.

In speed, it's the same as above.

In durability, it's a difference. BA's punches aren't going to do much damage and WW's won't either. It will take alot to take each other down. However BA's "edge" in magic is completely nullified here unlike his battle with Superman.

In skill, Diana is leagues above Teth.

In sheer array of battle tactics, Diana takes this too. A Wonderdome, a head of a Gorgon and several electron-cleaving weaponery earns her this right.

It will be an even battle at first, but Diana will eventually take it.

And The Queen of the Amazons takes the victory!!

Originally posted by Draco69
And yet you haven't proven so.

Again. One-hit kill. WW lassoes the poor bastard and commands him to revert to his human form.

WW experiences a neck-breaking deja vu.

In strength, in regardance of difference of opinion, they are more or less even. Not so dramatically different that will tip the scales. Kind of like a level 99 Final Fantasy character facing a level 100 FF character.

In speed, it's the same as above.

In durability, it's a difference. BA's punches aren't going to do much damage and WW's won't either. It will take alot to take each other down. However BA's "edge" in magic is completely nullified here unlike his battle with Superman.

In skill, Diana is leagues above Teth.

In sheer array of battle tactics, Diana takes this too. A Wonderdome, a head of a Gorgon and several electron-cleaving weaponery earns her this right.

It will be an even battle at first, but Diana will eventually take it.

Well why don't she just lasso the whole ****ing world of villians then. I'm sure there have times were people have dodged it. Just because got Zoom does not mean she is going to get everyone else. Her Magic defence has proven to be good and bad at points so who the hell knows.

Sure she has skills but not often do they do shit she use them and when she does they have often proven almost useless when going up against someone with almost the same powers as her. This skill didn't prove much when fighting Superman. It was almost an even battle AND she even had Weapons. She freakin lost to Black Canary in training and she has this billion years of fighting skill.

Originally posted by Milkie
Well why don't she just lasso the whole ****ing world of villians then.

Well she DID once lasso the entire Earth and helped tug it...

But that's besides the point.

Teth's powers rely on verbalization of a single word. A weakness the lassoes properties can easily exploit

Originally posted by Milkie
I'm sure there have times were people have dodged it. Just because got Zoom does not mean she is going to get everyone else. .

She's lassoed Superman. And the Flash and several other nigh impossible beings to lasso. Like Jesse Quick when she was going at lightspeed in the Speed Force. Teth isn't dodging it.

Many people think lassoes are slow (and they are normally) however it's a MAGIC lasso. That means physics doesn't apply. That also means that it can go as fast or as slow as Diana wants.

Originally posted by Milkie
Her Magic defence has proven to be good and bad at points so who the hell knows.

Actually no. Her magic defenses have consistently been extremely durable. It's proven with Circe, the White Magician, her encounters with gods and so forth.


Originally posted by Milkie
Sure she has skills but not often do they do shit she use them and when she does they have often proven almost useless when going up against someone with almost the same powers as her.

You mean like against the JLA when she was blind? Or against the Hkiarios when she was blind? Or against Medousa? Or against a Daxamite? Or against Ares in hand to hand combat with an axe?

What you're saying is a fallacy. Let's say I'm relatively as strong and as fast as you. I happen to have mastered nearly every martial art there is. You on the other hand only have experience with brawling with a few punks on the street. Guess who has the adavantage?

Originally posted by Milkie
This skill didn't prove much when fighting Superman.

Sure it did. She was deflecting most of his blows, broke his ribs, and cracked his knee joint.

Originally posted by Milkie
It was almost an even battle AND she even had Weapons.

I don't consider it a "battle" so to speak since A) Diana was holding back and B) Superman was going all out. It was more of a "Kal! Get OFF me you crazy bastard!" battle rather than a "Kal-El. Prepare to die!" battle.

Originally posted by Milkie
She freakin lost to Black Canary in training and she has this billion years of fighting skill.

You didn't read it correctly. Diana told Canary and I quote "You said you need something to hit. A sister learns when to take blows when necessary." She lost ON PURPOSE so A) Black Canary would rejoin the JLA according to their bet (and she did) and B) so Canary could let off some steam...and who better than against an invulnerable punching bag?

Originally posted by Draco69
Well she DID once lasso the entire Earth and helped tug it...

But that's besides the point.

Teth's powers rely on verbalization of a single word. A weakness the lassoes properties can easily exploit



She's lassoed Superman. And the Flash and several other nigh impossible beings to lasso. Like Jesse Quick when she was going at lightspeed in the Speed Force. Teth isn't dodging it.

Many people think lassoes are slow (and they are normally) however it's a MAGIC lasso. That means physics doesn't apply. That also means that it can go as fast or as slow as Diana wants.



Actually no. Her magic defenses have consistently been extremely durable. It's proven with Circe, the White Magician, her encounters with gods and so forth.




You mean like against the JLA when she was blind? Or against the Hkiarios when she was blind? Or against Medousa? Or against a Daxamite? Or against Ares in hand to hand combat with an axe?

What you're saying is a fallacy. Let's say I'm relatively as strong and as fast as you. I happen to have mastered nearly every martial art there is. You on the other hand only have experience with brawling with a few punks on the street. Guess who has the adavantage?



Sure it did. She was deflecting most of his blows, broke his ribs, and cracked his knee joint.



I don't consider it a "battle" so to speak since A) Diana was holding back and B) Superman was going all out. It was more of a "Kal! Get OFF me you crazy bastard!" battle rather than a "Kal-El. Prepare to die!" battle.



You didn't read it correctly. Diana told Canary and I quote "You said you need something to hit. A sister learns when to take blows when necessary." She lost ON PURPOSE so A) Black Canary would rejoin the JLA according to their bet (and she did) and B) so Canary could let off some steam...and who better than against an invulnerable punching bag?

Okay, I agree with this.... But, Superman wasn't in his right mind when he attacked her. His mind was being controlled so he wasn't being himself. If he had a clear mind while going all out, he would've ended the fight MUCH quicker. But other than that

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, I agree with this.... But, Superman wasn't in his right mind when he attacked her. His mind was being controlled so he wasn't being himself. If he had a clear mind while going all out, he would've ended the fight MUCH quicker. But other than that

I just dont' think if Wonder Woman was preparing to kill Clark, and he was trying to kill her, that the battle would be over quick. I could see her dying first, and him dying some minutes later from being gutted by her magical sword.

i dont want to interupt everyones arguments but whoever says Black Adam wins say I.

I

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I just dont' think if Wonder Woman was preparing to kill Clark, and he was trying to kill her, that the battle would be over quick. I could see her dying first, and him dying some minutes later from being gutted by her magical sword.

No, I'm just saying that in that particular situation where she was holding back a touch, that if he was in his right mind while going all out the fight would've been over quickly. However, if they were both going all out without being mind controlled, I think that Wonder Woman would fall.

Originally posted by Sea King
i dont want to interupt everyones arguments but whoever says Black Adam wins say I.

I

And if you say I, please in full detail, explain why he would be able to beat her. I want skills, stats, feats, the full list. SO that we may be able to counter your points with thus far stated feats of hers.

I think it would be split right down the middle to be honest. The only reason why I've said Captain Marvel and Black Adam are Superman's "equals," is because they exploit his magic vulnerability. But, if he were to take magic with the same level of invulnerability that he does with everything else, then he'd beat them pretty good. Wonder Woman 5/10; Black Adam 5/10.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, I'm just saying that in that particular situation where she was holding back a touch, that if he was in his right mind while going all out the fight would've been over quickly. However, if they were both going all out without being mind controlled, I think that Wonder Woman would fall. I agree.
If the roles were reversed, and Superman absolutely had to put a mind controlled Wonder Woman down, who just hurt several leaguers, and nearly killed Batman, etc.... Supes would have put her on her ass the moment he realised talking wasn't going to help.


I don't think it's been said in post crisis contuinty, at least not that I can ever recall, but in All Star Superman, which is at least based off of the same Superman idea, and with Pre-Crisis comics, mind-affected Superman was actually stated to be nowhere near the real deal in both power or application.

Originally posted by Juntai
I agree.
If the roles were reversed, and Superman absolutely had to put a mind controlled Wonder Woman down, who just hurt several leaguers, and nearly killed Batman, etc.... Supes would have put her on her ass the moment he realised talking wasn't going to help.


I don't think it's been said in post crisis contuinty, at least not that I can ever recall, but in All Star Superman, which is at least based off of the same Superman idea, and with Pre-Crisis comics, mind-affected Superman was actually stated to be nowhere near the real deal in both power or application.

Originally posted by Juntai
I agree.
If the roles were reversed, and Superman absolutely had to put a mind controlled Wonder Woman down, who just hurt several leaguers, and nearly killed Batman, etc.... Supes would have put her on her ass the moment he realised talking wasn't going to help.


I don't think it's been said in post crisis contuinty, at least not that I can ever recall, but in All Star Superman, which is at least based off of the same Superman idea, and with Pre-Crisis comics, mind-affected Superman was actually stated to be nowhere near the real deal in both power or application.

Ok here's the deal, the reason Maxwell Lord Controlled Superman, and made him attack Diana, is becuz he knew that only those two could kill each other. He wanted one of them to die becuz he considered them both equal threats. He even said either he is going to kill you, or your going to kill him. And soon after she broke his kneck.

A mind controlled Wonder Woman would not have all her training and skills and proper use of her weapons. A mind controlled Superman was acting without restrain. Superman is almost always under restrain. He was cutting loose on Diana. That smack from orbit to the earth was proof of that.

ok then here

First Black Adam gets his strength from a god(not demi god like Captin Marvel)

as does he his speed,dimsonial travel,lighting control,his inteagence,stamina,and he even gets courage of a god.

so he gets all of his powers from gods and from my understanding so does wonder woman so that right their could be enough for a tie.

now what is to stop ba from summoning a bunch lighting from afar and have it all just keep striking her. now even if she is resistent to his bolts he can use those as distractions so he could simply keep attcking her off gaurd.

till he use'es his full strength to hit her afew times

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok here's the deal, the reason Maxwell Lord Controlled Superman, and made him attack Diana, is becuz he knew that only those two could kill each other. He wanted one of them to die becuz he considered them both equal threats. He even said either he is going to kill you, or your going to kill him. And soon after she broke his kneck.

A mind controlled Wonder Woman would not have all her training and skills and proper use of her weapons. A mind controlled Superman was acting without restrain. Superman is almost always under restrain. He was cutting loose on Diana. That smack from orbit to the earth was proof of that. Not like Superman was using any of his knowledge or combat techniques either. He might have been using the strength and speed, but that's about it, and Supes is so much more than that.


He made Supes attack Diana simply because she's the one that followed. He didn't single her out at any moment.


WW is ON PAR with Superman, but in full swing, she's not Superman's equal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok here's the deal, the reason Maxwell Lord Controlled Superman, and made him attack Diana, is becuz he knew that only those two could kill each other. He wanted one of them to die becuz he considered them both equal threats. He even said either he is going to kill you, or your going to kill him. And soon after she broke his kneck.

A mind controlled Wonder Woman would not have all her training and skills and proper use of her weapons. A mind controlled Superman was acting without restrain. Superman is almost always under restrain. He was cutting loose on Diana. That smack from orbit to the earth was proof of that.

Maybe he wasn't holding back in strength, but the fact of the matter is that he wasn't in his right mind when he fought her. You can't tell me that if Superman cut loose while being able to think and react CLEARLY, he would've done just as good (or just as bad depending on how you look at it). If Superman had actually the mind set of a super genius at the time (which we most certainly know he is), then he would've been able to take her down all that much faster. It's a known fact that a mind-controlled person doesn't perform as well as him/her being in his/her right mind. So therefore, Superman wasn't performing top notch, and I really don't understand why that fight is even used as a basis of comparison.

Originally posted by batdude123
Maybe he wasn't holding back in strength, but the fact of the matter is that he wasn't in his right mind when he fought her. You can't tell me that if Superman cut loose while being able to think and react CLEARLY, he would've done just as good (or just as bad depending on how you look at it). If Superman had actually the mind set of a super genius at the time (which we most certainly know he is), then he would've been able to take her down all that much faster. It's a known fact that a mind-controlled person doesn't perform as well as him/her being in his/her right mind. So therefore, Superman wasn't performing top notch, and I really don't understand why that fight is even used as a basis of comparison.

Supergenious vs. Wisdom of Athena. HMM. I"d say he doen't have any advantages over her in intelligence. I'd also say that if Superman where trying to kill Diana of his own accord, and she knew this, She would certainly have no problem returning the favor. We have never seen Diana and Superman Fight fully unleashed. We know that they can both be viscious. We know he's more durable and a bit faster. We know she is a better fighter, with magic weapons and an unbreakable shield. They would clearly kill each other.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Supergenious vs. Wisdom of Athena. HMM. I"d say he doen't have any advantages over her in intelligence. I'd also say that if Superman where trying to kill Diana of his own accord, and she knew this, She would certainly have no problem returning the favor. We have never seen Diana and Superman Fight fully unleashed. We know that they can both be viscious. We know he's more durable and a bit faster. We know she is a better fighter, with magic weapons and an unbreakable shield. They would clearly kill each other.


did you ignore like all of my posts hes not a super genious he also gets his wisdome from a god

When WW and Superman fight, it's usually Superman being mindcontrolled or they're holding back for opposite goals.

Disregarding the horrible Azarello issue:

Wonder Woman: Kal-El! I won't let you commit suicide with the Orb! I have this magical knife and I'll kill you with it if you try to commit suicide!

Superman: ........Dumbass writer.

Originally posted by Sea King
did you ignore like all of my posts hes not a super genious he also gets his wisdome from a god

I was reffering to the Superman Comment.

Black Adam can't beat Diana. She's way too skilled for him. Her physical power is too even a match for him. With BA and WW being so evenly matched in the first place, her skill and weapons give her the clear victory 7/10 or more.

Originally posted by Draco69
When WW and Superman fight, it's usually Superman being mindcontrolled or they're holding back for opposite goals.

Disregarding the horrible Azarello issue:

Wonder Woman: Kal-El! I won't let you commit suicide with the Orb! I have this magical knife and I'll kill you with it if you try to commit suicide!

Superman: ........Dumbass writer.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I was reffering to the Superman Comment.

Black Adam can't beat Diana. She's way too skilled for him. Her physical power is too even a match for him. With BA and WW being so evenly matched in the first place, her skill and weapons give her the clear victory 7/10 or more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Supergenious vs. Wisdom of Athena. HMM. I"d say he doen't have any advantages over her in intelligence. I'd also say that if Superman where trying to kill Diana of his own accord, and she knew this, She would certainly have no problem returning the favor. We have never seen Diana and Superman Fight fully unleashed. We know that they can both be viscious. We know he's more durable and a bit faster. We know she is a better fighter, with magic weapons and an unbreakable shield. They would clearly kill each other.

Okay, you just COMPLETELY blew over my point. I was saying that if Superman fought with all his potential WHILE BEING IN HIS RIGHT MIND SET, then he'd be a little (LITTLE) bit too much for her to handle. I wasn't comparing minds or anything like that. Not only is he more durable and faster, but he's more versatile and stronger. But Wonder Woman has her weapons and her skill. All in all, Superman would be beating her 7/10.

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, you just COMPLETELY blew over my point. I was saying that if Superman fought with all his potential WHILE BEING IN HIS RIGHT MIND SET, then he'd be a little (LITTLE) bit too much for her to handle. I wasn't comparing minds or anything like that. Not only is he more durable and faster, but he's more versatile and stronger. But Wonder Woman has her weapons and her skill. All in all, Superman would be beating her 7/10.
5/10 each. Maybe 6/10 Superman. No one can beat someone who is so close to them in physical might that easily. Especially if the person possesses far greater skill. He easily has better ranged offense. She has better defense and that sword is a killer. Superman isn't used to fighting anything like that.

Originally posted by batdude123
Okay, you just COMPLETELY blew over my point. I was saying that if Superman fought with all his potential WHILE BEING IN HIS RIGHT MIND SET, then he'd be a little (LITTLE) bit too much for her to handle. I wasn't comparing minds or anything like that. Not only is he more durable and faster, but he's more versatile and stronger. But Wonder Woman has her weapons and her skill. All in all, Superman would be beating her 7/10.
Other than that, he could have just easily punched her the other way, through the sun rather than away from it.
Not to mention his first full swing in the fight KOed her, she woke up later and started fighting again sure, but at a different angle where the heat of re-entry into the atmosphere didn't awake her, she was out cold from one shot.


On the forum.. KO is a win.

But this fight is between Black Adam.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
5/10 each. Maybe 6/10 Superman. No one can beat someone who is so close to them in physical might that easily. Especially if the person possesses far greater skill. He easily has better ranged offense. She has better defense and that sword is a killer. Superman isn't used to fighting anything like that. That's the point, they aren't as close as you think they are when in full swing. Supes' feats prove this over and over and over again. She's ON PAR with Superman, but once he leagues it up, he leaves her behind.

Originally posted by Juntai
Other than that, he could have just easily punched her the other way, through the sun rather than away from it.
Not to mention his first full swing in the fight KOed her, she woke up later and started fighting again sure, but at a different angle where the heat of re-entry into the atmosphere didn't awake her, she was out cold from one shot.



But this fight is between Black Adam.

The Heat didnt' wake her becuz the fires of Hestia protect her from Elemental harm.

Originally posted by Draco69
When WW and Superman fight, it's usually Superman being mindcontrolled or they're holding back for opposite goals.

Disregarding the horrible Azarello issue:

Wonder Woman: Kal-El! I won't let you commit suicide with the Orb! I have this magical knife and I'll kill you with it if you try to commit suicide!

Superman: ........Dumbass writer.
For Tomorrow. Talk about a storyline totally saved by the awesome artwork.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
5/10 each. Maybe 6/10 Superman. No one can beat someone who is so close to them in physical might that easily. Especially if the person possesses far greater skill. He easily has better ranged offense. She has better defense and that sword is a killer. Superman isn't used to fighting anything like that.

Um... I never said Superman would be beating her easily. If I really felt that way, I would be saying that he'd beat her 10/10, but I know that's definitely not the case. Fact still remains that Superman is her superior. Versatility, strength, speed, and durability is on his side. Saying she'd pull 5/10 against him is stretching it.

Originally posted by Juntai
That's the point, they aren't as close as you think they are when in full swing. Supes' feats prove this over and over and over again. She's ON PAR with Superman, but once he leagues it up, he leaves her behind.

Uh huh.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The Heat didnt' wake her becuz the fires of Hestia protect her from Elemental harm. Wonder Woman 219.

The top of the page shows Supes swing for the first time.
She replies.

"I black out for an instant."

"In my darkness I see Bruce, and his broken body."

"In my darkness I see Max Lord and his smug smile of condescension"

"The HEAT of REENTRY brings me back"

" .. . too late for me to do anything about it."

"I'm going to crash."





Have you actually read this story?
I have to keep correcting you on it.

wow i have a major question.

im serious so please answer this.

people are saying Black Adam is a match for superman(iv seen comics to proof this)but only cause of his magic.

and people are saying wonder woman will lose to superman but she has magic also. yet she is black adams match?

this is like saying 2+2=22 it makes no sence

please explain this to me because she has fighting exp and skill and yet she would still lose to sups were sups could lose to Black Adam.

Originally posted by Sea King
wow i have a major question.

im serious so please answer this.

people are saying Black Adam is a match for superman(iv seen comics to proof this)but only cause of his magic.

and people are saying wonder woman will lose to superman but she has magic also. yet she is black adams match?

this is like saying 2+2=22 it makes no sence

please explain this to me because she has fighting exp and skill and yet she would still lose to sups were sups could lose to Black Adam. I'm not sure, I was just defending Supes, while also staying on point

Originally posted by Sea King
wow i have a major question.

im serious so please answer this.

people are saying Black Adam is a match for superman(iv seen comics to proof this)but only cause of his magic.

and people are saying wonder woman will lose to superman but she has magic also. yet she is black adams match?

this is like saying 2+2=22 it makes no sence

please explain this to me because she has fighting exp and skill and yet she would still lose to sups were sups could lose to Black Adam.

Yes, that is quite the conundrum...

I guess magical lightening is harder to parry against a magical lasso and tiara?

Originally posted by Draco69
Yes, that is quite the conundrum...

I guess magical lightening is harder to parry against a magical lasso and tiara?

deathstrok took off the magic lasso

Originally posted by Juntai
Wonder Woman 219.

The top of the page shows Supes swing for the first time.
She replies.

"I black out for an instant."

"In my darkness I see Bruce, and his broken body."

"In my darkness I see Max Lord and his smug smile of condescension"

"The HEAT of REENTRY brings me back"

" .. . too late for me to do anything about it."

"I'm going to crash."





Have you actually read this story?
I have to keep correcting you on it.

I have the story, the heat of re-enrty didn't hurt her at all or affect her negatively. In the same story, she fell into a pit of super heated iron to hide from one of those OMACS.

Originally posted by Draco69
Yes, that is quite the conundrum...

I guess magical lightening is harder to parry against a magical lasso and tiara?

NOt to mention a magical sword that can cut Superman in Half and a force shield no one can get thru. It is quite funny isn't it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I was reffering to the Superman Comment.

Black Adam can't beat Diana. She's way too skilled for him. Her physical power is too even a match for him. With BA and WW being so evenly matched in the first place, her skill and weapons give her the clear victory 7/10 or more.

Wonder Woman's "skill" is so overrated.

She is not beating him 7/10

How come when YOU are talking about Clark vs Diana you give him more of a chance of beating Diana then you do Adam when Adam has the powers that are right for fighting someone like her?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOt to mention a magical sword that can cut Superman in Half and a force shield no one can get thru. It is quite funny isn't it.

Yeah, and Superman has a sh*t load of powers also, and he'd beat Wonder Woman 7/10. That's quite funny, now isn't it?...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I have the story, the heat of re-enrty didn't hurt her at all or affect her negatively. In the same story, she fell into a pit of super heated iron to hide from one of those OMACS.
I never said it hurt her...

I said....

"but at a different angle where the heat of re-entry into the atmosphere didn't awake her, she was out cold from one shot."


And you said:
"The Heat didnt' wake her becuz the fires of Hestia protect her from Elemental harm."


And then I proved that the heat of reentry is what brought her back to consciousness.



And then you go off on the tangent above after being proved wrong again. If you have the story, why do you need to be corrected over and over on its events?

has she done this to spector

I don't agree with 7/10 either. It's more like 5/10 or 4.9 out of ten.

In pure bloodlust, with all their abilities in mind, it's going to be a battle for the ages.

Originally posted by Sea King
has she done this to spector Awesome scene, not that it did much good since Spectre turned off Teth Adam's power and killed his best friend in that story arc. And took care of Thunderbolt with an eye beam. Mashed out Dr Fate... etc etc.

Originally posted by Sea King
has she done this to spector
God damn I'm tired of seeing that scan. The last feat to be shown off that much was Quasar knocking down a Watcher.

Originally posted by Draco69
I don't agree with 7/10 either. It's more like 5/10 or 4.9 out of ten.

In pure bloodlust, with all their abilities in mind, it's going to be a battle for the ages.

Five out of ten? No, just no.

Originally posted by Juntai
Awesome scene


thank you

Originally posted by Sea King
thank you

And it's crap.

Originally posted by Sea King
has she done this to spector

Let's be honest, she could have done much worse to the spector with the Godwave. I'm not impressed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's be honest, she could have done much worse to the spector with the Godwave. I'm not impressed. Wtf.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let's be honest, she could have done much worse to the spector with the Godwave. I'm not impressed.

Well she don't have have the Godwave now answer my question

Originally posted by batdude123
And it's crap.

oh come just the fact he could do that was amazing since spector is sapouse to be under the presence only.

i was not trying to say he beat spector or anything like that im just pointing out he was able to do this

Originally posted by Sea King
oh come just the fact he could do that was amazing since spector is sapouse to be under the presence only.

i was not trying to say he beat spector or anything like that im just pointing out he was able to do this

And that's exactly why it's crap.

The spector is only Omnipotent when he is acting directly under the presence's orders. He has gotten beaten up more times than the Hulk has kicked Thing's ass. I"m not impressed with BA.

Originally posted by Sea King
oh come just the fact he could do that was amazing since spector is sapouse to be under the presence only.

i was not trying to say he beat spector or anything like that im just pointing out he was able to do this
Do what? Nothing? That's exactly what his attack accomplished. WW could nothing to Spectre if she wanted and do it with a smile on her face.

Originally posted by Sea King
oh come just the fact he could do that was amazing since spector is sapouse to be under the presence only.

i was not trying to say he beat spector or anything like that im just pointing out he was able to do this It didn't change anything, didn't you read my post? Black Adam didn't even harm him. It's clear on the panel. Spectre just turned his power off, on the very same page you posted. He didnt make a sound of being harmed, didn't even break his speach. And then went on through the story to defeat the god that powers him and Marvel both. Took out Thunderbolt with an eye beam in that very issue. etc etc.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The spector is only Omnipotent when he is acting directly under the presence's orders. He has gotten beaten up more times than the Hulk has kicked Thing's ass. I"m not impressed with BA.

Um... Even when Spectre didn't have a host, he slapped away Mr. Mxy like he was nothing.