Can Sith become ghosts like the Jedi can?

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FistOfThe North
Meaning like Obi Wan, Yoda, and Ben were?

GM Nebaris
yes

FistOfThe North
And can they guide and instruct other Sith? Like did Palpatine ever talk to them?

Spartan ll
Yes.

Palpatine talked to Sith Spirits in DE.

And Exar Kun talked to the spirit of Freedon Nadd during TOTJ.

Lightsnake
Generally Sith spirits need to anchor their soul with an object,a place or by their own hatred...however, it's far different than the Jedi force ghost

Escape81
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Generally Sith spirits need to anchor their soul with an object,a place or by their own hatred...however, it's far different than the Jedi force ghost

Yeah. The Sith Lords on Korriban required anchors (their tombs) to survive.

But the most uber of the Sith - Kun and Palpatine - could do so at their own will.

Darth Kreiger
Yeah, and don't listen to SS, he says the opposite while at the same time contradicting himself

Lightsnake
Actually Kun used the Massassi Temple

Escape81
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Actually Kun used the Massassi Temple

Hey! Forgot all about that.

Bespin Bart
Yeah, the Sith ghosts are very different. And...they can be destroyed as well.

J.M FcThumbs-Up
No, the idea was explained in ROTS(or Novel) I believe(canon)!
Non-canon>>>
They can however become a soulless entity drifting in nothingness, they need something physical(as materialistic as the Sith are) to attach to to become an identity again, something that is fueled by the DarkSide.
The tombs on Korriban are a good explanation.

GM Nebaris
Originally posted by Escape81
Yeah. The Sith Lords on Korriban required anchors (their tombs) to survive.

But the most uber of the Sith - Kun and Palpatine - could do so at their own will.

Palpatine> Hardly. He had to possess another body.

redcaped
My opinion: Siths are not spirits, they incarnate to their followers in conscience and will. Hatred is also a characteristic that does not describe a sith. They are people with different views and nothing more.

Ushgarak
it is important to point out that in the film universe, this is a great big no- on the grounds that George Lucas outright said that no-one has ever returned from death before the events of the films.

This, of course, created a bit of a continuity mess for the EU.

GM Nebaris
Man, does this mean that much of TATJ is not canon?

J.M FcThumbs-Up
Originally posted by Ushgarak
it is important to point out that in the film universe, this is a great big no- on the grounds that George Lucas outright said that no-one has ever returned from death before the events of the films.

This, of course, created a bit of a continuity mess for the EU.

That certainly happened, ain't it great.
Thanks Ush! laughing

people---------> >NO<

Escape81
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Palpatine> Hardly. He had to possess another body.

Hey, moron.

We're talking about spirits here. Sidious didn't have a specific anchor. But if he wanted to control teh galaxy, he required a body.

Darth Sexy
everybody required a specific anchor if they hoped to achieve something as spirits.

Captain REX
Yeah...the Sith spirits ruin things. Shouldn't have been made...

redcaped
Mankind has the tendency of assuming too much...more like a blind rage ignoring the fact of different things. If the Jedi have spirits so must the Sith. Things don't last forever because they connect to each other. Gathering information is different to associate things.

Captain REX
Indeed.

Ushgarak
Originally posted by redcaped
If the Jedi have spirits so must the Sith. .

Why?

Seems you are the only one making an assumption.

Archangelysses
The Jedi have spirits because Qui Gon Jinn managed to learn this from the journal of the whills (Not exactly sure where that information was read at this time). Prior to Qui Gon Jinn, no person had ever communicated from beyond the grave so to speak.

Qui Gon was the first, he then taught Yoda and Obi Wan this talent. Obi Wan and Yoda had then approximately 18 and 24 years to perfect this ability. That is most likely the reason that we can see Yoda and Obi Wan but not Qui Gon. Qui Gon had only managed to go so far.

Anakin however - and as a measure of his ability in force power - managed to do this upon returning to the light. Without any training or advice on how it was possible.

As for the ancient sith Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd etc, they managed to imbue certain statues, temples etc with their spirit. Therefore they were tied to a specific place, never changing.

The difference there is that the Jedi Ghosts and most notably being Obi Wan Kenobi, were able to appear and to talk to Luke anywhere that he may have been. This was because they had become 1 with the force and were able to go anywhere in it's encompassing bubble.

(Possible that a Ysalmiri bubble would be the only place they could not go)

Archangelysses
That should be as close to canon definition as possible.

Would you agree Ush

redcaped
No, actually I am against that.

Archangelysses
You can be against it but thats canon

J.M FcThumbs-Up
Originally posted by Archangelysses
You can be against it but thats canon

Word
smokin'

redcaped
Only my opinion. Can I?

General Zink
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Why?

Seems you are the only one making an assumption.

I think he was stating that's what the writers were thinking, not that he thinks that's how it should be...

That or I'm crazy as well as redcaped. big grin

redcaped
take it easy fella. we love star wars don't we?

J.M FcThumbs-Up

Sith Lord Windu
Originally posted by Archangelysses
The Jedi have spirits because Qui Gon Jinn managed to learn this from the journal of the whills (Not exactly sure where that information was read at this time). Prior to Qui Gon Jinn, no person had ever communicated from beyond the grave so to speak.

Qui Gon was the first, he then taught Yoda and Obi Wan this talent. Obi Wan and Yoda had then approximately 18 and 24 years to perfect this ability. That is most likely the reason that we can see Yoda and Obi Wan but not Qui Gon. Qui Gon had only managed to go so far.

Anakin however - and as a measure of his ability in force power - managed to do this upon returning to the light. Without any training or advice on how it was possible.

As for the ancient sith Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd etc, they managed to imbue certain statues, temples etc with their spirit. Therefore they were tied to a specific place, never changing.

The difference there is that the Jedi Ghosts and most notably being Obi Wan Kenobi, were able to appear and to talk to Luke anywhere that he may have been. This was because they had become 1 with the force and were able to go anywhere in it's encompassing bubble.

(Possible that a Ysalmiri bubble would be the only place they could not go)


Everyone can dream and make up thier own info but can you back that up with any SOLID proof, not from SS.com?

Infinity
exar kun posessed kyp.

Archangelysses
Yeah, the Tales of The Jedi series - Golden age of the sith for freedon Nadd if I remember correctly

The novelisation of Episode iii
the novel of Dark Lord rise of Darth Vader
GL himself

would you like anymore

Archangelysses
The novels of the New Jedi Academy trilogy by Kevin J Anderson for Kun

FeceMan
Also, KotOR had a Sith spirit confront you. Not exactly canonical, but...

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