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I say Ironfist/Danny takes this one. He was able to hold his own against Spiderman being dead tired an all. I think Batgirl will make it interesting but Danny would prevail.

Mmm interesting fight, if no holding back he will use the iron fist on her, so he only has to get 1 shot in and shes done, so i think he does it, but he has to get her which i think he can.

Batgirl would simply copy his Iron Fist manuever.

She'll read what he's going to so. His body will be basically telling her "I'm going to use a chi attack in about 5 seconds in the direction of that thar' tree!"

She's too damned fast. (She once dodged machine gun fire at point blank range by just moving her neck....) She's going to avoid everyone of his attacks. Every attack Iron Fist makes, Batgirl will just add to her inflated MA knowledge.

Ironfist goes down.

He will get him adventually, this is the guy that battles spidey and hits him and battles deathstroke. So he only has to land one hit.

Danny is faster than Batgirl in my opinion. He has the ability to read moves as well. He dodge a bunch of bullets like it was nothing.

I dont think Batgirl's reading ability would prevail here. Danny has taken out or give some heap of trouble to superhuman fighters such as Spiderman.

Originally posted by A.J
He will get him adventually, this is the guy that battles spidey and hits him and battles deathstroke. So he only has to land one hit.

Which she will avoid. (Spider-Man sixth sense should've had him avoid every single blow...stupid jobbing) Her ability to "read" body movements is a language to her. Just by standing still, Batgirl will know exactly what he's going to do for the next three minutes the battle lasts. She might as well be psychic.

She's too damned fast to. She'll be hopping around like jackrabbit throwing razor sharp batarangs into his pressure points while's she's at it.

Think of it this way. Iron Fist is basically battling Neo with telepathy...

Originally posted by Draco69
Batgirl would simply copy his Iron Fist manuever.

She'll read what he's going to so. His body will be basically telling her "I'm going to use a chi attack in about 5 seconds in the direction of that thar' tree!"

She's too damned fast. (She once dodged machine gun fire at point blank range by just moving her neck....) She's going to avoid everyone of his attacks. Every attack Iron Fist makes, Batgirl will just add to her inflated MA knowledge.

Ironfist goes down.

Copy the ironfist?

So she can copy moves now that can only be acquired through fighting and killing a mystical dragon one on one?

She won't be able to copy the Iron Fist move itself...but she probably wins anyway...although Iron fist should not be underestimated. I need to make a Respect thread for him, he has some really cool feats.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Danny is faster than Batgirl in my opinion.

No, he's not. Batgirl was about a half-block away from a girl who was sniped by a assassin. She CAUGHT the bullet, grabbed the girl, and disarmed the assassin AFTER the bullet had been fired. That's something Wonder Woman normally does....


Originally posted by x_danny_x
He has the ability to read moves as well.

No. He doesn't. Not like Batgirl. Body movement is a language to her as much as English is to us. The word "dog" would be equivalent to "I'm going to make a roundhouse kick, followed by a foreward thrust." She would know exactly what he's going to do, before he actually even thinks of doing it. He's battling a girl would know the following in the first three seconds just by LOOKING at him:

A) Every martial art he knows.
B) What his style of attack is
C) What he's going to do

He's battling a near-psychic girl. He can't hit a girl who's gonna know he's going to make that move thirty minutes before he actually makes the move....

Theres already an Iron Fist respect thread DC. You shoujld add to it.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
Copy the ironfist?

So she can copy moves now that can only be acquired through fighting and killing a mystical dragon one on one?

She's managed to copy alien techniques in JLE as Kasumi. Even though she's not an alien and she certainly can't fire blue beams of energy....

Originally posted by Draco69
Which she will avoid. (Spider-Man sixth sense should've had him avoid every single blow...stupid jobbing) Her ability to "read" body movements is a language to her. Just by standing still, Batgirl will know exactly what he's going to do for the next three minutes the battle lasts. She might as well be psychic.

She's too damned fast to. She'll be hopping around like jackrabbit throwing razor sharp batarangs into his pressure points while's she's at it.

Think of it this way. Iron Fist is basically battling Neo with telepathy... Neo is a bit to far LOL, but your saying he wont be able to land one hit on her when he has battled spidey, because he will only need one hit if he uses the iron fist.

Originally posted by Draco69
She's managed to copy alien techniques in JLE as Kasumi. Even though she's not an alien and she certainly can't fire blue beams of energy.... I seriously think that she won't be able to copy the Iron Fist by just looking at him...Iron Fist needed to plung his fists into the molten heart of Shou-Lao the Undying to get it...

Originally posted by jrodslam
Theres already an Iron Fist respect thread DC. You shoujld add to it. I'm probably going to make my own to SHC because of the flexibility of the board, but I'll send the link there if I do it.

Originally posted by A.J
Neo is a bit to far LOL, but your saying he wont be able to land one hit on her when he has battled spidey, because he will only need one hit if he uses the iron fist.


Which he simply won't make...

She'll know he's going to do it before he does it...and dude:

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I seriously think that she won't be able to copy the Iron Fist by just looking at him...Iron Fist needed to plung his fists into the molten heart of Shou-Lao the Undying to get it...

Granted, I'll cede she may not able to...but seriously the girl fired a blue "DBZ" ripoff move in JLE even though she's human. Just by looking at the poor alien MA.

Which is why she was probably kicked off being Batgirl. She's not human. She doesn't belong on the Batsquad. Everything she does is beyond anything the Batcrew could accomplish on their best day...

Originally posted by Draco69
He's battling a near-psychic girl. He can't hit a girl who's gonna know he's going to make that move thirty minutes before he actually makes the move....

Who did she do that against? Can you show this?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I'm probably going to make my own to SHC because of the flexibility of the board, but I'll send the link there if I do it.

Cant wait.

Ironfist has defeated and fought the Wrecking Crew, destroyed Ghostrider's bike with one kick, held his own against Captain America while he was exahusted and Captian American was going all out, and fought off the entire team of the X-men!

When fighting Spiderman dead tired, Spider-man realized that ironfist didn't have his own version of Spider-sense. That's how good he was at anticipating and dodging attacks.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Who did she do that against? Can you show this?

The Shadow Thief. I'm exaggerating the time. But the principle remains the same.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Ironfist has defeated and fought the Wrecking Crew,

Batgirl defeated the entire royal army of a pseudo-North Korea Country...

Originally posted by x_danny_x
destroyed Ghostrider's bike with one kick,

Batgirl defeated a Godzilla monster that was curbstomping Superboy with one punch....

Originally posted by x_danny_x
held his own against Captain America while he was exahusted

held her own against Deathstroke and Ravager even though she had been shot....seven times....

Originally posted by x_danny_x
and fought off the entire team of the X-men!


defeated Supergirl and Lady Shiva (twice...) and her League of Assassins....

Originally posted by x_danny_x
When fighting Spiderman dead tired, Spider-man realized that ironfist didn't have his own version of Spider-sense. That's how good he was at anticipating and dodging attacks.

Batgirl can dodged a sniper attack from two blocks away...

defeated Supergirl?? Where show me?

North Korean army are insects compare to the Wrecking Crew.

X-men are a group of superhuman fighters which he was taking it to them, so that is higher than Lady Shiva and her assisans

Danny hurting the Thing

http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=thing3zl.jpg


One punching Luke Cage

http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lukeca9lk.jpg


Danny (early in his career) vs the Wrecking Crew first page

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Middle page

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Last Page

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Danny beat Panther hard enough to shred his vibranium suit.

http://img56.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img56&image=vsfist10.jpg


He also hurt IronMan and his suit!!! Dont have a scan of that.

Also Danny has dodge a bunch of of bullets at once!!! Multiples

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5871/liked5mz.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3020/bdbdbd3kx.jpg

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Originally posted by x_danny_x
defeated Supergirl?? Where show me?

Don't have it with me. She defeated the "first" Post-Crisis Supergirl who was all Bizarroed up...

Originally posted by x_danny_x
North Korean army are insects compare to the Wrecking Crew.

With alien tanks, helicopters and jet fighter planes? Plus hired metahuman assassins?

Originally posted by x_danny_x
X-men are a group of superhuman fighters which he was taking it to them, so that is higher than Lady Shiva and her assisans

And Supergirl? Did I mention as Kasumi she was trapped in an alien dimension (the nexus of the Shadow belt that allowed her to teleport) filled with thousands of demons from a hellmouth. She defeat them all. Some of them were the size of "New Jersey"....


Originally posted by x_danny_x
Danny hurting the Thing

One punching Luke Cage

Danny (early in his career) vs the Wrecking Crew first page


Batgirl once broke Superboy's nose. She actually managed to pierce the TK shield that Eradicator and 200 megaton bomb couldn't scratch...





Originally posted by x_danny_x
Danny beat Panther hard enough to shred his vibranium suit.


Doesn't the suit absorb kinetic energy...isn't vibranium nearly as hard as adamantium...oh well it's comics.

Batgirl once managed to knock down the titanium vault of the Gotham Treasury with one kick....

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Also Danny has dodge a bunch of of bullets at once!!! Multiples

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5871/liked5mz.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3020/bdbdbd3kx.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3839/grsp30co.jpg

Kewl.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirlsecretfiles0104054ep.jpg

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirlsecretfiles01355ym.jpg

Oh wait. I do have the Supergirl feat (stupid folder...):

http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supergirl63pg036td.jpg

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Bizzored up? Then she was all muscle and no brains. For a train fighter that can dodge than Im not surprise

Like Danny hasnt fought against planes, bullets, machine guns etc. Ironman comes to mind, The X-men again with their Mutuant powers all at once is like basically the samething. Also snapped a steel girder in half, open hand slice a telephone pole in half, blocked a storm of flechettes with their bare hand without getting cut, dodged everything from sniper to machine gun fire, taken out Electro in two or so panels, repeatedly blocked strikes from Luke Cage and made him feel their own, and taken down 80 or so SHEILD agents while holding back. He basically does the majority of this stuff in seconds!!!




That Superboy/Batgirl stint was a joke! You cant take that Seriously. Superboy was just trying to take Batgirl on a date or was trying to ask her out on that issue and Batgirl wasnt going to give him one. That was more comic relief than anything else.

Monsters the size of New Jersey? Danny has beaten a Dragon to death!!!!!!

The IF is just one technique, chi in general is what Danny's using to do what he does, as complimented by his skill

Originally posted by Draco69
Kewl.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirlsecretfiles0104054ep.jpg

http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batgirlsecretfiles01355ym.jpg

Wasnt that a dream??? Though if it wasnt then that is what I expect for it to happen anyway if they decided to fight it out.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Bizzored up? Then she was all muscle and no brains. For a train fighter that can dodge than Im not surprise

True. But she does look better than current Britney Zor-El...

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Like Danny hasnt fought against planes, bullets, machine guns etc. Ironman comes to mind, The X-men again with their Mutuant powers all at once is like basically the samething.

Fought the JSA. Fought against Dr. Light. Managed to hold her own against Dr. Magnus' killer android...



Originally posted by x_danny_x
Also snapped a steel girder in half,

broke down the prison wall in Arkham. Something the likes of Clayface can't do...and he can take on a Kryptonian and Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
open hand slice a telephone pole in half,

shattered bullet-proof glass designed by S.T.A.R. LABS. That means it was really bulletproof....



Originally posted by x_danny_x
blocked a storm of flechettes with their bare hand without getting cut,

caught a flurry of arrows shot by expert assassins and disarmed them by throwing them right back at them.


Originally posted by x_danny_x
dodged everything from sniper to machine gun fire,

dodged a solid light beam from Dr. Light. That's a lightspeed laser beam mind you. Even Kid Flash couldn't avoid tha.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
taken out Electro in two or so panels,

one-punched Knockout (female fury that regularly goes up against Superman..well she used until she joined the Secret Six and got blown up....)


Originally posted by x_danny_x
repeatedly blocked strikes from Luke Cage

repeatedly blocked strikes from the Modus. He's basically Bane times five. Also blocked strikes from a metahuman powerful enough to throw tanks with one arm...


Originally posted by x_danny_x
or so SHEILD agents while holding back.

Took down 100 or so soldiers hopped up on Rage (gave them metahuman powers and made them all Hulk like) in three seconds using the "Falling Leaf" technique...


Originally posted by x_danny_x
He basically does the majority of this stuff in seconds!!!


Yep. Batgirl and Ironfist are mystical martial artists who have the ability to make anyone job to them.




Originally posted by x_danny_x
That Superboy/Batgirl stint was a joke! You cant take that Seriously.

I can't? And I'm supposed to take the idea of Iron Fist taking down the X-Men and Iron Man seriously? Right...


Originally posted by x_danny_x
Monsters the size of New Jersey? Danny has beaten a Dragon to death!!!!!!

That dragon wasn't very big now was it?


Originally posted by x_danny_x
he IF is just one technique, chi in general is what Danny's using to do what he does, as complimented by his skill

And his skill will be copied, dodged and read like a book.

Originally posted by x_danny_x
Wasnt that a dream??? Though if it wasnt then that is what I expect for it to happen anyway if they decided to fight it out.

That wasnt' a dream.

Batgirl doesn't dream. She just has nightmares about her first kill that's all.

Originally posted by Draco69
True. But she does look better than current Britney Zor-El...



Fought the JSA. Fought against Dr. Light. Managed to hold her own against Dr. Magnus' killer android...





broke down the prison wall in Arkham. Something the likes of Clayface can't do...and he can take on a Kryptonian and Wonder Woman.



shattered bullet-proof glass designed by S.T.A.R. LABS. That means it was really bulletproof....





caught a flurry of arrows shot by expert assassins and disarmed them by throwing them right back at them.




dodged a solid light beam from Dr. Light. That's a lightspeed laser beam mind you. Even Kid Flash couldn't avoid tha.



one-punched Knockout (female fury that regularly goes up against Superman..well she used until she joined the Secret Six and got blown up....)




repeatedly blocked strikes from the Modus. He's basically Bane times five. Also blocked strikes from a metahuman powerful enough to throw tanks with one arm...




Took down 100 or so soldiers hopped up on Rage (gave them metahuman powers and made them all Hulk like) in three seconds using the "Falling Leaf" technique...





Yep. Batgirl and Ironfist are mystical martial artists who have the ability to make anyone job to them.






I can't? And I'm supposed to take the idea of Iron Fist taking down the X-Men and Iron Man seriously? Right...




That dragon wasn't very big now was it?




And his skill will be copied, dodged and read like a book.



Danny turned and dodged bullets coming at him a few inches from his face, not having been looking at the gun? Looking entirely casual when doing it

Danny's on multiple ocassions dodged the bullets themselves by clear impression, not by predicting their path.


Clayface, well Clayface is a bunch of Clay and it is tricky for even Superpower beings just like Wonderman to handle him. The IF has knocked out.. Warhawk, Luke Cage, staggered a dragon taking on the Wakandan air force and getting hit by missles, Bres, who had taken shots from Thor and She Hulk, it's shattered the Scorpion's tail, floored a Hercules who was yet able to get into extended fights with the Hulk..

That Dragon was strong! Despite its size it wasnt no chump at all!! Luke Cage in my opinion is more durable than Rhino and Danny smacked his ass mention in holding back the his Ironfist powers. Spiderman mention when he was facing him that after fighting him Danny for sometime that he doubted that he was faster than him.

A pic of Danny/Ironfist dodging. In the first pick, he dodge them before the guy finish saying a word!

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/4089/bullets11sx.jpg


Danny's accomplisments are greaters than Batgirls. On top of that with his Ironfists that he has mastered, he has knocked out superhuman opponents such as Luke Cage with one hit!! So this is what Batgirl is going up against . Someone who is faster than her, on par with her skills and and able to read moves and can KO superhuman opponents.

She loses

I argue with you some more later. Gotta go now!

Batgirl really sounds like a wannabe Val Armorr.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
She won't be able to copy the Iron Fist move itself...but she probably wins anyway...although Iron fist should not be underestimated. I need to make a Respect thread for him, he has some really cool feats.

Danny is an awesome character

However I dont see him beating Cassandra

Batgirl 6/10

Originally posted by x_danny_x

Danny hurting the Thing

http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=thing3zl.jpg



I can see that happening if that simply knocked Ben back or whatnot but actually hurting Ben?

That would be PIS

Well recently we saw a Daredevil vs daredevil(Danny). Danny fighting Daredevil in Matt's own style and he was good but eventually Matt utillize the billy club better than Danny. But once Danny wanted to turn on his style the fight ended (matt stop it). Iron-Fist could beat Shiva to a majority and he does that to Cass too.

Richard Dragon beats both in a h2h match.

There.

Originally posted by olympian
Richard Dragon beats both in a h2h match.

There. then gets curbstomped by Captain America

Can you post all of the fight with the thing and cage and danny please.

Cap would be annihilated by Shiva let alone Dragon. they got rid of Batgirl cause she's basically become Karate Kid-lite. the stuff she does is well into superhuman.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Cap would be annihilated by Shiva let alone Dragon. they got rid of Batgirl cause she's basically become Karate Kid-lite. the stuff she does is well into superhuman. cap would pwn shiva like she was a white belt in tae-kwon-do school fighting Fedor Emielanenko

Danny takes it for a majority.

I'd say danny too. His partner in heroes for hire was luke cage. And honestly... danny was as good as luke was.

Originally posted by rotiart
I'd say danny too. His partner in heroes for hire was luke cage. And honestly... danny was as good as luke was.
Are you saying Luke was a martial artist?

Ironfist would win this battle. He has the experience and the power to pull it out.