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I know this may sound crazy or stupid, but I have a theory that lily potter might be part fairy, elf, or leprechaun. This might explain her distinguishable and unique eyes. Also, in french the word fairy is translated to fe`e and a part of lily's name is ne`e, which is probably a clue that J.K. threw in there. Also, lily was exceptional in potions and charms and this theory might also explain the large amount of gold that was left for harry( leprechauns and fairies keep large stashes of gold).clover
This is only a theory . What do you guys think?

hello?

I think it's a pretty good theory.

Well, in the Harry Potter universe, Elves, Fairies, and Leprechauns are sort of evil. SO I doubt it.

I said she might be part fairy. She doesnt HAVE to be evil. But that was a nice opinion.

Originally posted by stormlover
I said she might be part fairy. She doesnt HAVE to be evil. But that was a nice opinion. Well, faries are also smaller than pencils. So Lily would probablly be small.

She doesn't have to have ALL the characteristics of a fairy. She may have only possessed two or three traits.
From wikipedia:
A fairy, or faerie, is a spirit or supernatural being that is found in the legends, folklore, and mythology of many different cultures. They are generally humanoid in their appearance and have supernatural abilities such as the ability to fly, cast spells and to influence or foresee the future. Although in modern culture they are often depicted as young, sometimes winged, females of small stature, they originally were of a much different image: tall, angelic beings and short, wizened trolls being some of the commonly mentioned fay. The small, gauzy-winged fairies that are commonly depicted today did not appear until the 1800s.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on the subject?

SHE WAS MUGGLE BORN

Originally posted by Lord Tomahawk
SHE WAS MUGGLE BORN No need for caps. And I go with the thought of elf, really. But Lily and the elf thing is an old theory way way back. I like your theory though, but as Lord Tomahawk said, she was muggle born... as far as we know.

Does anyone else have any ideas?

Oh, and that definition of fairies could be different from the way JKR has her own fairies. Just like she has her elves, as far as we know, different from elves in other books.

True

Lily may well have been muggle born it doesn't mean that grandparents were and also in book one seamus said
"I'm half and half ""me dads a muggle.mam didn't tell him she was a witch 'til after they were married.bit of a nasty shock for him"
so for all we know her mother could have been a fairy a pixie or a goblin she didn't have to tell Lily's father anything hagrid only ever let people know half of him till book 4 so Lily's mother could have hidden who she was out of fear and shame(petunia never would have excepted her)

could be true

i think it's a really good theory.

Ditto.

So everyone thought that Petunia had NO conttact with the wizarding world but in the fifth book we find out that she was in touch with Dumbledore.

Originally posted by l.saratn
So everyone thought that Petunia had NO conttact with the wizarding world but in the fifth book we find out that she was in touch with Dumbledore. We're talking about Lily here ermm

I'm not really sure about this whole theory thing but it could be true for all we know. And it's nice to see other people think about harry potter as much as I do!

Originally posted by l.saratn
So everyone thought that Petunia had NO conttact with the wizarding world but in the fifth book we find out that she was in touch with Dumbledore. WE also found out why she was contacting dumbledore.

yeah

thanx

Originally posted by stormlover
I know this may sound crazy or stupid, but I have a theory that lily potter might be part fairy, elf, or leprechaun. This might explain her distinguishable and unique eyes. Also, in french the word fairy is translated to fe`e and a part of lily's name is ne`e, which is probably a clue that J.K. threw in there. Also, lily was exceptional in potions and charms and this theory might also explain the large amount of gold that was left for harry( leprechauns and fairies keep large stashes of gold).clover
This is only a theory . What do you guys think?

I think there may be more to Lily than meets the eye but I don't think she's part fairy, to be honest.

Also, which part of Lily's name is ne'e? You lost me on that part

As for the gold left for Harry, usually Leprechaun gold is fake. It disappears when spent; I doubt Harry's parents would want him using money that would be likely to disappear.

Originally posted by Syren
I think there may be more to Lily than meets the eye but I don't think she's part fairy, to be honest.
Oh
Also, which part of Lily's name is ne'e? You lost me on that part
Her middle name or her maiden name, I forget.

I'm prety sure she is related to slytherin, which is why Harry has those strikingly green eyes, and can speak Parseltounge.

Originally posted by hpsleuth12
I'm prety sure she is related to slytherin, which is why Harry has those strikingly green eyes, and can speak Parseltounge. Wrong. The skill to speak parseltounge was given by Voldemort, as said in the second book. And Lily is muggle born!

Originally posted by The Phantom
Wrong. The skill to speak parseltounge was given by Voldemort, as said in the second book. And Lily is muggle born!
the 1st one agreed
the 2nd one we r not sure that she was muggle-born

Yes we are. Snape called her muggle born. Malfoy called him muggle born. Her sister said she is muggle born.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Yes we are. Snape called her muggle born. Malfoy called him muggle born. Her sister said she is muggle born.

What if they didn't know that she wasn't muggle-born. And what do Malfoy or Snape really know about Harry's bloodline.
Anyway, thanx for the comments you guys. I have a lot to consider.

Yes. They know.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Yes. They know.

How?

I'm pretty sure that she would have mentioned it at school. Also they were Death Eaters (Well, not Malfoy, his father was and info passes between the two) and I'm sure they knew with their own powers.

how r u so sure?!

yeah.

How are you so sure that people would have automatically known if she was something more than a witch? How do we know that she really knew if she could be more than just a witch? In the book it does say that her parents were proud to have a witch in the family. That doesn't necessarilly make them out to be human. Hagrid is half wizard, half giant. Whose to say that magical creatures can't be 1/3 of one race and 1/4 of another. There's always the possibility of a character being more than what they appear to be.

Originally posted by stormlover
I know this may sound crazy or stupid, but I have a theory that lily potter might be part fairy, elf, or leprechaun. This might explain her distinguishable and unique eyes. Also, in french the word fairy is translated to fe`e and a part of lily's name is ne`e, which is probably a clue that J.K. threw in there. Also, lily was exceptional in potions and charms and this theory might also explain the large amount of gold that was left for harry( leprechauns and fairies keep large stashes of gold).clover
This is only a theory . What do you guys think?

Interesting but I don't think so.She is muggleborn but has magic powers as a witch.jm

Double post! *beats with Double Posts Stick* BAD!Originally posted by stormlover
How are you so sure that people would have automatically known if she was something more than a witch? How do we know that she really knew if she could be more than just a witch? In the book it does say that her parents were proud to have a witch in the family. That doesn't necessarilly make them out to be human. Hagrid is half wizard, half giant. Whose to say that magical creatures can't be 1/3 of one race and 1/4 of another. There's always the possibility of a character being more than what they appear to be. And her sister is human. Full human. That's why.

im full blood

Originally posted by Damien B
im full blood YOu have know clue how stupid you just sounded.

Originally posted by The Phantom
You have know clue how stupid you just sounded.
None.

It's 'pure-blood' anyway, you're clearly nothing more than a Squib mhm

Originally posted by The Phantom
Double post! *beats with Double Posts Stick* BAD! And her sister is human. Full human. That's why.

How do you know she is human. What if she is part something and just doesn't know about it.

Unless her human mother or father screwed a mystical creature. I highly doubt it.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Unless her human mother or father screwed a mystical creature. I highly doubt it.

How do you know that they didn't

Originally posted by stormlover
How do you know she is human. What if she is part something and just doesn't know about it.
She's a Mud-Blood.

how do u know??

Originally posted by stormlover
How do you know that they didn't

How do you know they did? It works both ways and we have substantially greater evidence against it being the case. You might was well give up wavey

Originally posted by Syren
How do you know they did? It works both ways and we have substantially greater evidence against it being the case. You might was well give up wavey

Never. You can't just go by what the people that thought they knew Lily said. Dumbledore said that Snape could be trusted, and he ended up killing him. Almost everyone thought that Sirius was really a murderer, but he wasn't one. You can't believe everything that everyone tells you. And perhaps the reason that there isn't enough evidence to support me is because JK didn't want to drop too many clues that Lily was something more than what she thought she was ( being just a witch).

I know this thread is old, but I still feel that it is necessary to talk about. JK said that there was more to Lily Potter that we are to find out about in the last book. She even said that there was more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye. So couldn't it be possible that lily is part fairy or elf or something. If you think about the whole book series, there is underlined message of equalities and inequalities among the different magical races and how they enteract. Even with the races of today, a person could be part African American, part Italian, part Greek, part Native American, and part Asian all in one. Why can't this apply to the wizarding world? Above all else, why can't this apply to Lily Potter?

Originally posted by stormlover
I know this thread is old, but I still feel that it is necessary to talk about. JK said that there was more to Lily Potter that we are to find out about in the last book. She even said that there was more to Aunt Petunia than meets the eye. So couldn't it be possible that lily is part fairy or elf or something. If you think about the whole book series, there is underlined message of equalities and inequalities among the different magical races and how they enteract. Even with the races of today, a person could be part African American, part Italian, part Greek, part Native American, and part Asian all in one. Why can't this apply to the wizarding world? Above all else, why can't this apply to Lily Potter? I dunno if I mentioned this in the past, but I tried pitching the whole Harry being part else. But it isn't possible for that to be on her mothers side. SHE IS A MUDBLOOD.

Originally posted by The Phantom
I dunno if I mentioned this in the past, but I tried pitching the whole Harry being part else. But it isn't possible for that to be on her mothers side. SHE IS A MUDBLOOD.

If she's JUST a mudblood, then why would JK want us to know more about her. Why would JK take the time to describe lily's characteristics, attributes, and even the uniqueness of her eyes. She can't JUST be a mudblood. There has to be more to her than that.

Originally posted by stormlover
If she's JUST a mudblood, then why would JK want us to know more about her. Why would JK take the time to describe lily's characteristics, attributes, and even the uniqueness of her eyes. She can't JUST be a mudblood. There has to be more to her than that. So what are you saying, mudbloods can't have anything special about them?

Originally posted by The Phantom
So what are you saying, mudbloods can't have anything special about them?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Phantom. It sounds like that's what you're saying. Hermoine is an excellent witch and she's a mudblood. However, if you were to compare the descriptions of Lily Potter and Hermoine, there is WAY more emphasis on Lily's uniqueness. Especially on her eyes. I'm not saying mudbloods can't be special. It just seems that Lily is a little too special to be just another mudblood.

Originally posted by The Phantom
SHE IS A MUDBLOOD. It doesn't mean that she's not descended from a long line of squibs on one side of the family that simply forgot about their magic over the years. But as for her being part something? No, I hate it.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
It doesn't mean that she's not descended from a long line of squibs on one side of the family that simply forgot about their magic over the years. But as for her being part something? No, I hate it.

Well, crush my hopes and dreams

Originally posted by stormlover
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Phantom. It sounds like that's what you're saying. Hermoine is an excellent witch and she's a mudblood. However, if you were to compare the descriptions of Lily Potter and Hermoine, there is WAY more emphasis on Lily's uniqueness. Especially on her eyes. I'm not saying mudbloods can't be special. It just seems that Lily is a little too special to be just another mudblood. I'm the one supporting the thought of something special in mudbloods and you say I'm doing otherwise... ok... Yes, there is something important about her eyes. But I don't think it is she is part something other than a muggle-born witch. If I turn out wrong, I'd gladly say I was wrong. But your not getting any evidence out that she is part anything either way. I highly doubt she is someting else.Originally posted by Darth Macabre
It doesn't mean that she's not descended from a long line of squibs on one side of the family that simply forgot about their magic over the years. But as for her being part something? No, I hate it. Magic blood would still be in her then. I don't think it'd work that way. I think if a Squib had a child, it would probably either be a Squib or a wizard/witch. The whole thing about her being special was because she was an amazing student for a muggleborn. Esp. at charms. Maybe they keep bringing up her eyes because she did something to them with a charm? Has anyone thought of that? Maybe there is something important about those green eyes that she passed down to Harry because of some charm she performed on herself? It sounds more plausable than her having something else in her. Originally posted by stormlover
Well, crush my hopes and dreams Welcome to the world. You started the debate. You can't handle criticism on your idea, don't become a writer. Because you'd be crushed in the world then.

Originally posted by stormlover
Well, crush my hopes and dreams I just don't like the thought of half-breeds, what can I say?

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
I just don't like the thought of half-breeds, what can I say?

Originally posted by The Phantom
I'm the one supporting the thought of something special in mudbloods and you say I'm doing otherwise... ok... Yes, there is something important about her eyes. But I don't think it is she is part something other than a muggle-born witch. If I turn out wrong, I'd gladly say I was wrong. But your not getting any evidence out that she is part anything either way. I highly doubt she is someting else. Magic blood would still be in her then. I don't think it'd work that way. I think if a Squib had a child, it would probably either be a Squib or a wizard/witch. The whole thing about her being special was because she was an amazing student for a muggleborn. Esp. at charms. Maybe they keep bringing up her eyes because she did something to them with a charm? Has anyone thought of that? Maybe there is something important about those green eyes that she passed down to Harry because of some charm she performed on herself? It sounds more plausable than her having something else in her. Welcome to the world. You started the debate. You can't handle criticism on your idea, don't become a writer. Because you'd be crushed in the world then.

If I'm wrong, i'll definitely own up to the fact that i'm wrong. And I'll apologize for waisting your time.

Originally posted by stormlover
What? Lily being part of another species is not something I would find clever or anything. Hell, Hagrid being half Giant is pushing it in my opinion.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
What? Lily being part of another species is not something I would find clever or anything. Hell, Hagrid being half Giant is pushing it in my opinion.

But isn't that one of the main themes of the Harry Potter series? Relationships between the magical races and the subject of blood purity?

Originally posted by stormlover
But isn't that one of the main themes of the Harry Potter series? Relationships between the magical races and the subject of blood purity? Blood purity within the same species, and crossbreeding are two completely different things. It's absurd if you think it's anywhere close to one another. I'm not saying that wizards within the Potter-verse should go out with pitchforks and torches and kill Giants, house elves, and Goblins, but they definitely should not be able to breed with them.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Blood purity within the same species, and crossbreeding are two completely different things. It's absurd if you think it's anywhere close to one another. I'm not saying that wizards within the Potter-verse should go out with pitchforks and torches and kill Giants, house elves, and Goblins, but they definitely should not be able to breed with them.

Why? I think that if you love someone, whether they are a goblin, a giant, or an elf, then you should be with that person. Even if it leads to interbreeding.

Originally posted by stormlover
Why? I think that if you love someone, whether they are a goblin, a giant, or an elf, then you should be with that person. Even if it leads to interbreeding. Okay, be with them all you want...but that still does not change the fact that they are of a different species, and therefore have different dna than you. Which makes it quite impossible to breed. I'm against it from a physiological point of view, not a moral or ethical point of view.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Okay, be with them all you want...but that still does not change the fact that they are of a different species, and therefore have different dna than you. Which makes it quite impossible to breed. I'm against it from a physiological point of view, not a moral or ethical point of view.

Oh ok. sorry

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Okay, be with them all you want...but that still does not change the fact that they are of a different species, and therefore have different dna than you. Which makes it quite impossible to breed. I'm against it from a physiological point of view, not a moral or ethical point of view. Now that I pretty much am not sure if I agree or disagree.

Originally posted by stormlover
I know this may sound crazy or stupid, but I have a theory that lily potter might be part fairy, elf, or leprechaun. This might explain her distinguishable and unique eyes. Also, in french the word fairy is translated to fe`e and a part of lily's name is ne`e, which is probably a clue that J.K. threw in there. Also, lily was exceptional in potions and charms and this theory might also explain the large amount of gold that was left for harry( leprechauns and fairies keep large stashes of gold).clover
This is only a theory . What do you guys think?

That was a pretty well thought out theory...... BUT Lily's muggle-born. Remember? That's the end of your theory right there. Sorry. confused

Originally posted by The Phantom
Now that I pretty much am not sure if I agree or disagree. What do you mean?

Oh, and I know it's "fantasy" so anything can happen, but in my opinon, a good fantasy novel/story has roots in real life, and has a realistic feel to it.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
What do you mean?

Oh, and I know it's "fantasy" so anything can happen, but in my opinon, a good fantasy novel/story has roots in real life, and has a realistic feel to it. It is possible to do it, so it is bound to happen.

Originally posted by The Phantom
It is possible to do it, so it is bound to happen. Possible to do what? Humans can't even mate with their closest extinct human relations, or their closest living relation. What makes you think it's possible for a house elf, or a goblin to mate with a wizard? And, yes, I know that Flitwick has goblin blood in him, but we were talking about personal preferences.

Originally posted by Selina*Starfire
That was a pretty well thought out theory...... BUT Lily's muggle-born. Remember? That's the end of your theory right there. Sorry. confused

That may be what she wanted people to believe. Maybe only a select group of people knew about who lily was. Maybe her grandparents were part elf or fairy or whatever and it just skipped a generation.

Originally posted by stormlover
That may be what she wanted people to believe. Maybe only a select group of people knew about who lily was. Maybe her grandparents were part elf or fairy or whatever and it just skipped a generation.

Well I think that whether or not this is true, it's probably not very important, or Dumbledore would've said something. confused

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Possible to do what? Humans can't even mate with their closest extinct human relations, or their closest living relation. What makes you think it's possible for a house elf, or a goblin to mate with a wizard? And, yes, I know that Flitwick has goblin blood in him, but we were talking about personal preferences. Ok, yes you can. Mating is possible. Even on close living relations. It's disguisting, but possible. So your arguement is invalid. People can have sex with other species in the "Potter-verse". It is just I highly doubt Lily's family have any relations with any species because she is a flipping MUGGLE BORN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Originally posted by The Phantom
Ok, yes you can. Mating is possible. Even on close living relations. It's disguisting, but possible. So your arguement is invalid. People can have sex with other species in the "Potter-verse". It is just I highly doubt Lily's family have any relations with any species because she is a flipping MUGGLE BORN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! What are you talking about? I said humans as a whole, as in an objective opinion, as in the "closest human relation" is Chimpanzees. I didn't mean inbreeding or incest. Humans cannot mate with Chimps, our closest relative in the animal kingdom. Humans cannot mate with Neanderthals, a divergent species of human long extinct. Get what I'm saying now?

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
What are you talking about? I said humans as a whole, as in an objective opinion, as in the "closest human relation" is Chimpanzees. I didn't mean inbreeding or incest. Humans cannot mate with Chimps, our closest relative in the animal kingdom. Humans cannot mate with Neanderthals, a divergent species of human long extinct. Get what I'm saying now? Yep. All I got to say is it has happened before. So it's possible. Rowling's book, not mine.

Originally posted by The Phantom
Yep. All I got to say is it has happened before. So it's possible. Rowling's book, not mine. Hence me saying: Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Oh, and I know it's "fantasy" so anything can happen, but in my opinon, a good fantasy novel/story has roots in real life, and has a realistic feel to it. and Originally posted by Darth Macabre
And, yes, I know that Flitwick has goblin blood in him, but we were talking about personal preferences.