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Silver Surfer Versus Majestic at his best showing, who takes the cake?

Silver Surfer would win that battle due ro the fact silver surfer is more resourseful.

Majestic is pretty resources.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t389817.html

I still hand it to the Surfer.

Does Majestic get any prep? weapons? (like that kick-ass sword of his)

Isn't Majestic basically a Superman clone?
Since Surfer could beat Superman, he beats Majestic.

that's not good logic man, he's NOT just a carbon copy of supes. and who says SS beats supe anyways?

Majestic is a smarter, better trained, better armed (occasionaly) version of Superman who will kill his opponent

Originally posted by Whittdawg92
that's not good logic man, he's NOT just a carbon copy of supes. and who says SS beats supe anyways?

Tell me you're joking. The Surfer could beat Superman, even without his powers to radiate kryptonite and/or red sun energies.

However, I agree that P&Q logic doesn't apply consistently in the versus forum.

yeah, i hate superman anyways so it's always funny to see him lose/get killed.

Originally posted by Soljer
Tell me you're joking. The Surfer could beat Superman, even without his powers to radiate kryptonite and/or red sun energies.

However, I agree that P&Q logic doesn't apply consistently in the versus forum. That's Surfres only chance to beat Superman. He won't beat him straight up, he'll have to exploit his weaknesses.

Such as the weakness of getting pummelled by unholy levels of cosmic powered blasts

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's Surfres only chance to beat Superman. He won't beat him straight up, he'll have to exploit his weaknesses.

Perhaps in a fanboy's dream. The surfer is faster, and FAR more versatile than Superman.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Such as the weakness of getting pummelled by unholy levels of cosmic powered blasts

Originally posted by Scoobless
Such as the weakness of getting pummelled by unholy levels of cosmic powered blasts You think that would work? Interesting.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Majestic is a smarter, better trained, better armed (occasionaly) version of Superman who will kill his opponent

Smarter? Debatable. Better trained? Yup. Better armed? Don't know what that means. Unless you're talking about the sword of his.

Superman's more durable and has more powers (PIS or not).

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You think that would work? Interesting.

If Majestic had a knife like this he could take Norrin.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinBleedin.jpg



http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinNotflyingann2.jpg(This scan has nothing to do with fight but it's funny)

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Majestic had a knife like this he could take Norrin.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinBleedin.jpg



http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinNotflyingann2.jpg(This scan has nothing to do with fight but it's funny)

No. He couldn't.

Originally posted by Whittdawg92
that's not good logic man, he's NOT just a carbon copy of supes. and who says SS beats supe anyways?

ss beats supe10/10 he is considered a semi-divie being and can change matter into energy

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's Surfres only chance to beat Superman. He won't beat him straight up, he'll have to exploit his weaknesses.
Yeah,Right.Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Majestic had a knife like this he could take Norrin.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinBleedin.jpg



http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinNotflyingann2.jpg(This scan has nothing to do with fight but it's funny)
Bah Everyone knows Magic >>>>Everything else.
The second scan is just retarded.Originally posted by batdude123
Smarter? Debatable. Better trained? Yup. Better armed? Don't know what that means. Unless you're talking about the sword of his.

Superman's more durable and has more powers (PIS or not).
Majestic when in his own book outclasses Supes in everything.

Originally posted by Skeets
Majestic when in his own book outclasses Supes in everything.

Nope. baka

Originally posted by Skeets

The second scan is just retarded.
Why?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
That's Surfres only chance to beat Superman. He won't beat him straight up, he'll have to exploit his weaknesses.

I thought that was how a character was supposed to win a fight. how many fights have been won because of taking advantages of various weaknesses.

Originally posted by BuzzKiller
I thought that was how a character was supposed to win a fight. how many fights have been won because of taking advantages of various weaknesses. How many characters have as many weaknesses as Superman?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Why?
Funny how Surfer didn't just call the board.

Have any of you looked at the Majestic respect thread? Majestic is like pre crisis superman, intelligence and ability to create things included, plus he has no exploitable weaknesses.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Have any of you looked at the Majestic respect thread? Majestic is like pre crisis superman, intelligence and ability to create things included, plus he has no exploitable weaknesses.

Nah. Pre-Crisis Superman is way above Majestic.

Originally posted by Skeets
Funny how Surfer didn't just call the board. People have controled his board over him before. Without his board he's f*cked cause his board is fast, not him.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SurferandStranger-1.jpg

PC superman is above Majestic, but Majestic is like PC levels in some of his feats.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
How many characters have as many weaknesses as Superman?

well that should be the problem anytime supes takes on a character like surfer. with his weaknesses their is a definite ceiling to who he can in reality handle.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
People have controled his board over him before. Without his board he's f*cked cause his board is fast, not him.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SurferandStranger-1.jpg
Surfer without his board can still think and more at superspeeds.
looks like all Stranger did was destroy his board.
Surfer's whole fight with Redshift was with no board and he still whooped his ass.

Originally posted by Jesse7
PC superman is above Majestic, but Majestic is like PC levels in some of his feats.

No.

PC Superman flies through dimensions for fun, he has 'time altering punches', flies MANY times the speed of light, invents powers right and left, controlls gravity ( ), etc.

And Majestic is more like Post Crisis Supes.

Ill post scans, one momment.

Majestic and crew are being attacked by the building itself. After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. Note how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.

http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uilding18dr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding25rr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding38oc.jpg

^This shows how fast Majestic can analyze a situation and adapt, and create solutions to combat or solve the problem, as well as using completely new alien technology that he has never seen before and create weapons out of it near instantly.

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Gets captured, pulls himself and the woman he was with free, only to get turned to stone.
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?i...smagic021zz.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic032cz.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic041hz.jpg

First panel of the next page, he's back to normal.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic053ht.jpg

^This shows that Majestic can combat matter manipulation, so no surfer wont be able to beat majestic by matter manipulation.

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Majestic moves Mercury towards Jupiter and leaves it as a new moon there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system066ud.jpg

^ this shows his strength

Majestic uses his eye-beams to change the chemical compostion of Jupiter.
http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?...system070dm.jpg

^matter manipulation

Turns his own body into superdense material and makes the trip to the sun.
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system142uv.jpg

^more matter manipulation, changes his matter.

Performs a bit of magic/reality altering and....
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system161tk.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system175lv.jpg
Voila. Binary star.

^reality/magic warping/altering
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Having flown under his own power outside the Milky Way galaxy, he faces the Alien Entity that sent the probe. It tries to identify the solar system but doesn't recognise it and leaves. Majestic then turns around and flies back home. And he's back in... well, it's hard to say for certain, but it's less than a year.

Which puts him somewhere around a few thousand times faster than light.
http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system184fg.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system194rj.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system200tt.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system216de.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system229od.jpg

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He takes a prisonship out past Pluto in less than two and half hours (the ship would self-destruct within 2.5 hours according to Desmond/the ship computer and destroy the planet with it) Again, flight under own power. And, for everyone's info, Pluto is anywhere from 4 to 7 light hours away. So Maj was running at least twice the speed of light. And that is a a VERY low and the least likely estimate.
http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?...aceship50qi.jpg
Remember how I said to keep in mind that it landed near Kilimanjaro? Well, Mt. Kilimanjaro is one of the highest/largest mountains on Earth. And the ship was of comparable size. So Majestic moved a bona fide mountain-sized object at multiples of light speed.
^more strength/speed feats

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On Earth the villain rants: "... life savings on this prototype. Now it's just a worthless pile of junk! This is not chaos-charisma in action! This is anti-sophistication." At that point Majestic flies in at high speed, grabs the villain and locks him in a police car.

So, unless the villain was repeating those two sentences over and over again, we have Earth to Saturn and back within a sentence.
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust25yn.jpg

^speed feat

Originally posted by Skeets
Surfer without his board can still think and more at superspeeds.
looks like all Stranger did was destroy his board.
Surfer's whole fight with Redshift was with no board and he still whooped his ass. Red-Shift is a slapnut. He's been in like 1 comic.

Surfer is alot less powerful without his board. He has no superspeed or flight without it. I do realize it's hard to keep it away from him though.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Surfernotflying22.jpg

the board doesnt give ss his powers.
and to say surfer cant beat supes, by pounding him with blasts, kind of shows some fantoyism.
and surfer has so many powers, to take him down.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Ill post scans, one momment.

Don't bother. I've seen them. He's still no Pre-C Superman AT ALL.

i agree with batdude

pre crisis superman was a god for all intents and purposes. he could do anything and everything. majestic is not a precrisis superman.

Originally posted by bigbran
the board doesnt give ss his powers.
and to say surfer cant beat supes, by pounding him with blasts, kind of shows some fantoyism.
and surfer has so many powers, to take him down. Let me clarify a few things here slick.

1. I never said it gives him his powers. It enables him to fly and move fast.

2. When has Supes been stopped by simple blasts?(Non K-nite)

3. I find it insulting being called a fanboy by somebody who cannot.........nevermind.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Red-Shift is a slapnut. He's been in like 1 comic.

Surfer is alot less powerful without his board. He has no superspeed or flight without it. I do realize it's hard to keep it away from him though.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Surfernotflying22.jpg
All he looses is His Flight speed.He can fly without his board.the board doesn't add anything to his overall power level what so ever.No Flying brick is beating Surfer it's not happening.last I checked Surfer can just swipe his hand and he's got a brand new board.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let me clarify a few things here slick.

1. I never said it gives him his powers. It enables him to fly and move fast.

2. When has Supes been stopped by simple blasts?(Non K-nite)

3. I find it insulting being called a fanboy by somebody who cannot.........nevermind.

The Board lets him fly without the cost of his own energy.surfer's Blast can consist of anything he wishes so,no there not just some simple blast.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Let me clarify a few things here slick.

1. I never said it gives him his powers. It enables him to fly and move fast.

2. When has Supes been stopped by simple blasts?(Non K-nite)

3. I find it insulting being called a fanboy by somebody who cannot.........nevermind. i said signs of fantoyism.
and no, go on, what were you going to call me?

Originally posted by bigbran
i said signs of fantoyism.
and no, go on, what were you going to call me? I wasn't going to call you anything. I was just gonna make a comment about you but I'll keep it to myself.

I am not saying Supes beats Norrin. I'm just saying ordinary Power Cosmic blasts won't get it done. He'll have to go for his weaknesses. But Majestic does not have any so he should give Norrin a tough time.

FLying brick? Did you look at the scans I posted, Majestic was flying several thousand times faster then the speed of light, he can matter/magic/reality manipulate and alter, that he was moving around planets and a solar system.

Majestic out classes Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I wasn't going to call you anything. I was just gonna make a comment about you but I'll keep it to myself.

I am not saying Supes beats Norrin. I'm just saying ordinary Power Cosmic blasts won't get it done. He'll have to go for his weaknesses. But Majestic does not have any so he should give Norrin a tough time. i want to hear the comment!!
no surfer can beat him w/o going into the pussy way out.
the guy has scared the hell out of thor.
hes powerful, just not shown it all the time.
like destroying a planet just to teach someone a lesson.

Originally posted by Jesse7
FLying brick? Did you look at the scans I posted, Majestic was flying several thousand times faster then the speed of light, he can matter/magic/reality manipulate and alter, that he was moving around planets and a solar system.

Majestic out classes Silver Surfer.
I wasn't referring to Majestic hence why I qouted Snoopdogg.

Ok and those feats outclass Surfer's feats how?
I can post a bunch of feats from Surfer right now if you want.

Battle of the fanboys! baka

Originally posted by Validus
Battle of the fanboys! baka
You referring to me Jon?

*sigh* (Courtesy of Validus )

Jesse7:

http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics334page62mx9.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=actioncomics27304ga3.jpg

'Nuff said.

super-sap *teehee*
super-ham*teehee*
i like how he flys to another universe. how the hell does he fly to another universe?

Originally posted by bigbran
super-sap *teehee*
super-ham*teehee*
i like how he flys to another universe. how the hell does he fly to another universe?

IT'S PRE F*CKIN CRISIS SUPERMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S HOW!!!

but really, another universe? i gotta call that one.

and then up top it says he flew to another solar system. in the same panel!!!

Originally posted by bigbran
but really, another universe? i gotta call that one.

There's a reason why nobody f*cks with Pre-C Superman. I mean TRILLIONS of miles in seconds!!! The guy was wacky.

Originally posted by batdude123
There's a reason why nobody f*cks with Pre-C Superman. I mean TRILLIONS of miles in seconds!!! The guy was wacky. you mean super-ham!!

well lol, okay Majestic is not Pre crisis superman level, but! Majestic is beyond herald level.

Originally posted by Jesse7
FLying brick? Did you look at the scans I posted, Majestic was flying several thousand times faster then the speed of light, he can matter/magic/reality manipulate and alter, that he was moving around planets and a solar system.

Majestic out classes Silver Surfer. man i like majestic but supes has moved planets many times captain atom even saids supes hits harder supes is over majestic and ss is over them both

Originally posted by Jesse7
well lol, okay Majestic is not Pre crisis superman level, but! Majestic is beyond herald level.

Beyond herald level? thorinn No.

super-sap!!

Yes Majestic is beyond herald level, I will argue that Majestic is beyond herald level! I'll get more scans....tommorow.

no he isnt.
or you could get the scans where he absorbs a sun, destroys a planet like nothing, travels half a million light years in minutes, or even seconds.
get those scans.

I posted some of those earlier >___>

Dude, NO. Majestros is not above Herald level. I don't know where the hell you came up with that notion. Superman EQUALS Majestic. Majestic is NOT above Surfer. Get it through your head. I suppose that by turning the endless wheels of Maggeddon, that puts Superman above herald level???? GET REAL! And who cares about his time altering reality bullsh*t or whatever. Not to mention Superman entered the mind of a skyfather being and changed reality (through T-Vo) so I guess that puts him above herald level all together too, right??!! Hell, Post Crisis Superman recently RUBBED HIS HANDS TOGETHER and was able to fix the rift in the time dimension which basically makes him a god. Does this all the sudden mean Superman can compete with Odin??? Listen, everybody has high end feats. Bottom line: Majestros=NOT above herald level. In fact, not even close.

Thats like saying, all of Silver Surfers high end showings dont count.

Are we to go purely by low end showings then? Silver surfer being stabbed by wolverine?


Silver surfer being beat down by dracula?

If you want I could post multiple low showings for Silver surfer.

Originally posted by Jesse7
I posted some of those earlier >___> you actually posted scans of him absorbing a sun, and all the other stuff i said?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Thats like saying, all of Silver Surfers high end showings dont count.

Are we to go purely by low end showings then? Silver surfer being stabbed by wolverine?


Silver surfer being beat down by dracula?

If you want I could post multiple low showings for Silver surfer. post them, and ill post scans of him absorbing a sun, going half a million light years in moments.

I'll post them again

-=Speed=-
Which puts him somewhere around a few thousand times faster than light.
http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system184fg.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system194rj.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system200tt.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system216de.jpg
http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?...system229od.jpg

-=Manipulates matter, space, and reality=-
Turns his own body into superdense material and makes the trip to the sun.
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system142uv.jpg

Here's why: he spends WEEKS in the sun. Considering the fact that its not his power source, and that a full hour in the sun drove Superman insane.
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system158qq.jpg

Performs a bit of magic/reality altering and....
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system161tk.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system175lv.jpg
Voila. Binary star.

-=Adds another planet to the solar system=-
Catching a comet and adds it as another planet to the solar system (flying over there and back under his own power, not in a spaceship)
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?...system107av.jpg

-=creates a replacement sun with his eye beams=-
Creates a replacement for the sun as part of his preparation to move Earth.
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?...system118cj.jpg

-=changes the chemical composition of jupitor with his eye beams=-
Majestic uses his eye-beams to change the chemical compostion of Jupiter.
http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?...system070dm.jpg

-=Moves planets with such ease that he needs to creat special gauntlets so that he wont destroy the planet when moving it=-
Something is coming to destroy the solar system. And after some soul searching Majestic decides on the best manner to stop it.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system043ke.jpg

-=Majestic moves the moon and mercury=-
He moves the moon wearing special gauntlets designed by himself to keep it from falling apart. Satellites and machines he has built stabilize the Earth, keep the tides going as normal etc.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system051ws.jpg

Majestic moves Mercury towards Jupiter and leaves it as a new moon there.
http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system066ud.jpg

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P.S. Majestic also uses high end tech and weapons normally, including his sword, he also is able to analyze situations in a thousandth of a second and to figure out conclusions.
-He is also able to make weapons to combat his foes in thousandths of seconds out of what ever is around him, even if he has never used that kind of tech before.

Next one is one of my favorites from WildCats. Majestic and crew are being attacked by the building itself. After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. Note how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uilding18dr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding25rr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding38oc.jpg

-=Majestic is able to manipulate and alter time=-
In Majestic 7, Maj fights a villain who tries to spray a city with temporal particles to send it back to the Stone Age. Majestic breaths in all the particles and flies away into outer space.The villain rants:"I spent my life savings on this prototype. Now it's....."

In outer space, he passes Mars and Jupiter, but the dust starts to hurt him. He's then contacted by the Universals, a race of god-like entities who talk to him in his mind in an Alice in Wonderland kind of mindscape. They tell him of his destiny and Majestic wakes up, Saturn in the background. He gets up and flies back to Earth.

On Earth the villain rants: "... life savings on this prototype. Now it's just a worthless pile of junk! This is not chaos-charisma in action! This is anti-sophistication." At that point Majestic flies in at high speed, grabs the villain and locks him in a police car.

So, unless the villain was repeating those two sentences over and over again, we have Earth to Saturn and back within a sentence.
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust25yn.jpg

Inhales time dust:
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg

Wakes up with Saturn in the background, flies under the rings to get back to Earth, meaning he flew past it.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?i...imedust26gt.jpg

Returning in mid-rant to apprehend the badguy:

-=Majestic can resist, combate, and overcome magic=-
Major magical resistance here.
http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?i...smagic012vt.jpg

Gets captured, pulls himself and the woman he was with free, only to get turned to stone.
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?i...smagic021zz.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic032cz.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic041hz.jpg

First panel of the next page, he's back to normal.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic053ht.jpg

P.S he can also manipulate his own matter as shown in the above scan and in the earlier scan of him altering his matter when going into the sun.

Originally posted by bigbran
i want to hear the comment!!
no surfer can beat him w/o going into the pussy way out.
the guy has scared the hell out of thor.
hes powerful, just not shown it all the time.
like destroying a planet just to teach someone a lesson.

Surfer has also had the hell beat outa him by Thor.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Surfer has also had the hell beat outa him by Thor. no!!!
hes had better showing than that, and that was wm thor.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Thats like saying, all of Silver Surfers high end showings dont count.

Are we to go purely by low end showings then? Silver surfer being stabbed by wolverine?


Silver surfer being beat down by dracula?

If you want I could post multiple low showings for Silver surfer.



You COMPLETELY misunderstood what I was saying. I NEVER said we can't look at high end feats. But, Superman's high end feats are just as crazy as Majestros, so I really don't know where you got the whole 'above herald' title for him. That's insane to think so.

Btw, Silver Surfer getting stabbed by Wolverine was in a "What If?" comic, so nice try.

And Silver Surfer's high end feats are even crazier than Superman's and Majestic. I don't really think you get the concept of the 'herald level.'

So, no... Majestic is definitely NOT above herald level. I gave you comparable feats of Superman, so please get that crazy notion out of your head.

And if you bring up Majestic's crazy one time speed feat ( ), then understand that Superman once flew so fast that he created a 'boom tube' in the time dimension and thus instantaneously travelled in time. So please get out of here with the whole "Majestic is above herald level" bullsh*t.

Originally posted by batdude123
Dude, NO. Majestros is not above Herald level. I don't know where the hell you came up with that notion. Superman EQUALS Majestic. Majestic is NOT above Surfer. Get it through your head. I suppose that by turning the endless wheels of Maggeddon, that puts Superman above herald level???? GET REAL! And who cares about his time altering reality bullsh*t or whatever. Not to mention Superman entered the mind of a skyfather being and changed reality (through T-Vo) so I guess that puts him above herald level all together too, right??!! Hell, Post Crisis Superman recently RUBBED HIS HANDS TOGETHER and was able to fix the rift in the time dimension which basically makes him a god. Does this all the sudden mean Superman can compete with Odin??? Listen, everybody has high end feats. Bottom line: Majestros=NOT above herald level. In fact, not even close.
majestic is Herald level in fact he's above all of them except Surfer,Stardust and maybe Fallen one,Redshift.Originally posted by Jesse7
Thats like saying, all of Silver Surfers high end showings dont count.

Are we to go purely by low end showings then? Silver surfer being stabbed by wolverine?


Silver surfer being beat down by dracula?

If you want I could post multiple low showings for Silver surfer.
That's not how it works.Originally posted by Soujaboy
Surfer has also had the hell beat outa him by Thor.
Not regular Thor.

Originally posted by Skeets
majestic is Herald level in fact he's above all of them except Surfer,Stardust and maybe Fallen one,Redshift.

Not my point WHATSOEVER. I was refering to his crazy notion that Majestic is ABOVE herald level.

Originally posted by batdude123


You COMPLETELY misunderstood what I was saying. I NEVER said we can't look at high end feats. But, Superman's high end feats are just as crazy as Majestros, so I really don't know where you got the whole 'above herald' title for him. That's insane to think so.

Btw, Silver Surfer getting stabbed by Wolverine was in a "What If?" comic, so nice try.

And Silver Surfer's high end feats are even crazier than Superman's and Majestic. I don't really think you get the concept of the 'herald level.'

So, no... Majestic is definitely NOT above herald level. I gave you comparable feats of Superman, so please get that crazy notion out of your head.

And if you bring up Majestic's crazy one time speed feat ( ), then understand that Superman once flew so fast that he created a 'boom tube' in the time dimension and thus instantaneously travelled in time. So please get out of here with the whole "Majestic is above herald level" bullsh*t. silver surfer also went back in time just to put someone in there.
if this guy post those scans he'll be owned as soon as i upload my images into imageshack.

Originally posted by bigbran
no!!!
hes had better showing than that, and that was wm thor.

Who is no different than Classic Thor

Originally posted by bigbran
silver surfer also went back in time just to put someone in there.
if this guy post those scans he'll be owned as soon as i upload my images into imageshack.

Great! Fantastic!! Again, not my point.

Originally posted by batdude123
Great! Fantastic!! Again, not my point. just pointing it out.

Originally posted by batdude123
Not my point WHATSOEVER. I was refering to his crazy notion that Majestic is ABOVE herald level.
Well in general no he's not.Originally posted by Soujaboy
Who is no different than Classic Thor
Keep thinking that.

Originally posted by Skeets
Well in general no he's not.

Nope, he isn't.

Originally posted by Skeets
Well in general no he's not.
Keep thinking that.

Well to my knowledge it was never stated in the Blood and Reign arc that WM Thor was more powerful than Classic Thor, but your welcome to prove me wrong.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Well to my knowledge it was never stated in the Blood and Reign arc that WM Thor was more powerful than Classic Thor, but your welcome to prove me wrong. Not sure if it was stated that he was 10x more powerful or not.He was indeed more powerful than Regular Thor though that's a fact.

Bah I have posted scans, Majestic has the speed, tech, strength, power, eye beams, to be above herald level. He can manipulater matter, time, reality, etc. He travels thousands of times faster then the speed of light, and that speed feat shows that he can normally and cassualy move that fast, he has other speed feats as well, Ive posted multiples of them so far.

Majestic is above Silver Surfer!

Originally posted by Jesse7
Bah I have posted scans, Majestic has the speed, tech, strength, power, eye beams, to be above herald level. He can manipulater matter, time, reality, etc. He travels thousands of times faster then the speed of light, and that speed feat shows that he can normally and cassualy move that fast, he has other speed feats as well, Ive posted multiples of them so far.

Majestic is above Silver Surfer!
Funny how everything you said Surfer has done with ease.Since when has Majestic done half those things under his own power?
Can Majestic use TP on everyone on Earth at the same time?
Can majestic create a black hole with a wave of his hand?
Can Majestic go back and forth in time when ever he wants?
All these Things Surfer has done effortlessly.

Originally posted by Skeets
Not sure if it was stated that he was 10x more powerful or not.He was indeed more powerful than Regular Thor though that's a fact.

To my knowledge It was in fact never stated. You can't just assume he was more powerful without it being stated anywhere on panel.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
To my knowledge It was in fact never stated. You can't just assume he was more powerful without it being stated anywhere on panel.
Yeah,because he wasn't doing things that Classic Thor couldn't.get real he was indeed more powerful than Regular Thor you don't need a narrator to tell you that.

he isnt on a herald level, so we can just forget that.

Originally posted by Skeets
Yeah,because he wasn't doing things that Classic Thor couldn't.get real he was indeed more powerful than Regular Thor you don't need a narrator to tell you that.

Don't need a narrator, but I do need proof

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Don't need a narrator, but I do need proof
*sigh* And you claim to know Thor.

Originally posted by Skeets
*sigh* And you claim to know Thor.

Proof is all thats needed, without your making an argument without any stance.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Proof is all thats needed, without your making an argument without any stance.
What other proof do you need the guy was wrecking the infinity watch Surfer and Bill.You're gonna tell me that Classic Thor can do that.

Originally posted by Skeets
What other proof do you need the guy was wrecking the infinity watch Surfer and Bill.You're gonna tell me that Classic Thor can do that.

The same Thor that holds back as frequently that he appears in comics?
The same Thor that fought The Stranger one on one?
The same Thor that had Galactus running for his life?
The same Thor that defeated Ego the living Planet?

According to his best showings, ah Yes.

Your trying to create a argument with no proof.

Silver Surfer is too powerful for Mr. Majestic not saying Majestic wouldn't give him hell, Silver Surfer to versatile for Majestic. Silver Surfer can control all forms of energy, rearrange molecules on any level organic,inorganic, can amp his strength to unknown levels, cosmic awareness, warp-speed flight, can absorb any form of energy at will, and has destroyed a planet with a thought. Silver Surfer has forty years of feats under his belt, he will give MAjestic hell.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Silver Surfer is too powerful for Mr. Majestic not saying Majesti wouldn't give him hell, Silver Surfer to verstila for Majestic. Silver Surfer can control all forms of energy, rearrange molecules on any level organic,non-organic, can amp hisstrength to unknown levels, cosmic awarness, warp-speed flight, can absorb any form of energy at will, and has destroyed a planet with a thought. Silver Surfer has fourty years of feats under his belt, he will give MAjestic hell.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
The same Thor that holds back as frequently that he appears in comics?
The same Thor that fought The Stranger one on one?
The same Thor that had Galactus running for his life?
The same Thor that defeated Ego the living Planet?

According to his best showings, ah Yes.

Your trying to create a argument with no proof.
Warlock,Surfer,Drax all could Solo Thor the guy was amped.I'll look for scans tomorrow but I doubt It'll convince you even if it was stated on panel.

Originally posted by Skeets
Warlock,Surfer,Drax all could Solo Thor the guy was amped.I'll look for scans tomorrow but I doubt It'll convince you even if it was stated on panel.

Actually I do have the scans , and he doesn't become more powerful until after he gets the Power Gem. Don't assume that because I often defend the chaacter, that I'm a fanboy.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/SilverS1.jpg
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bump

Originally posted by Jesse7
Bah I have posted scans, Majestic has the speed, tech, strength, power, eye beams, to be above herald level. He can manipulater matter, time, reality, etc. He travels thousands of times faster then the speed of light, and that speed feat shows that he can normally and cassualy move that fast, he has other speed feats as well, Ive posted multiples of them so far.

Majestic is above Silver Surfer!

It's cool that after looking at a couple of feats on the respect thread, you're now an expert on what 'level' Majestic is at.

Originally posted by Skeets
Funny how everything you said Surfer has done with ease.Since when has Majestic done half those things under his own power?
Can Majestic use TP on everyone on Earth at the same time?
Can majestic create a black hole with a wave of his hand?
Can Majestic go back and forth in time when ever he wants?
All these Things Surfer has done effortlessly.

He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Actually I do have the scans , and he doesn't become more powerful until after he gets the Power Gem. Don't assume that because I often defend the chaacter, that I'm a fanboy.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/SilverS1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/SilverS2.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Scans/Warlock1.jpg
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When have I ever called or Assumed that you were a fanboy?
funny how some of those scans are to small to read and whats even funnier is how you think Thor isn't Amped.

Originally posted by Skeets
When have I ever called or Assumed that you were a fanboy?
funny how some of those scans are to small to read and whats even funnier is how you think Thor isn't Amped.

You act as if I purposely created the scans to be small?

If you so wish, go find more scans they won't state anything about him being 10x stronger.

Im not just going to assume that because he was cleaning house that he was amped. There could have been numerous reasons why he was beating them all down. The fist that comes to mind is that he usually holds back.

I challenge you to prove me wrong

I still like majestic........even if some if not all of you don't think hes ubah herald level T___T

That and Peacon and boisenberry pie >>> all other pie, so thus peacon and boisenberry pie is above herald level pie.

P.S. even though I argued for majestic, I did like that none of you became rude or insulting, but rather stayed polite and courteous ^_^

Originally posted by Jesse7
I still like majestic........even if some if not all of you don't think hes ubah herald level T___T

That and Peacon and boisenberry pie >>> all other pie, so thus peacon and boisenberry pie is above herald level pie.

thorinn herbwank

Originally posted by batdude123
thorinn herbwank

Pass me the coco butta

herbwank

droolwanker

Originally posted by batdude123
It's cool that after looking at a couple of feats on the respect thread, you're now an expert on what 'level' Majestic is at.

After seeing that respect thread, I became ubah pro at Majestic feats. >____________________________>

Originally posted by batdude123
droolwanker

You gota porno with Majestic wit ya?

droolwanker

Originally posted by Jesse7
After seeing that respect thread, I became ubah pro at Majestic feats. >____________________________>

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3205/passedoutwatermelonbumps1.jpg

Originally posted by Soujaboy
You gota porno with Majestic wit ya?

droolwanker

leftright

Originally posted by Soujaboy
The same Thor that holds back as frequently that he appears in comics?
The same Thor that fought The Stranger one on one?
The same Thor that had Galactus running for his life?
The same Thor that defeated Ego the living Planet?

According to his best showings, ah Yes.

Your trying to create a argument with no proof. no regular thor gets k.o by Surfer mini Blasts

not only that in all of Thor/ SS working together ...... A weak SS did more damage to his oppenent than Thor.

Originally posted by kgkg
no regular thor gets k.o by Surfer mini Blasts

not only that in all of Thor/ SS working together ...... A weak SS did more damage to his oppenent than Thor.

Doesn't change the fact that there isn't any proof supporting the claim that Thor was more powerful in the blood and Reign arc.

Majestic is good, but Surfer is better.

More durable and faster and significantly higher energy output.

Majestic maybe stronger, but he can't take the damage Surfer can easily put out.

And i do feel that Surfer can take a clean majority over Superman without resorting to Kryptonite.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Doesn't change the fact that there isn't any proof supporting the claim that Thor was more powerful in the blood and Reign arc.
well it does because ............ in later issues he is having trouble with enimes , that the Silver Surfer deafeated easily.

and beacause in his normal showing.......... SS had to save his ass .... like 10 times

Alright I have an argument as to why Majestic would defeat SS.

First being, Silver Surfer has never shown to be able to move thousands of times faster then the speed of light in combat, and he has never been shown to be able to use his speed in combat such as punching thousands of times in a second. The only time he has shown to use his *vast speed* is in travel or dashing in a straight line.

P.S. Surfer has shown multiple times in the past, that when under pressure and moving at tremendous speeds he tends to get nervous and his accuracy tends to suffer (missing the IG)

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Second, Majestic has shown to be able to move thousands of times the speed of light in COMBAT.

Which puts him somewhere around a few thousand times faster than light.
http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system184fg.jpg
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Here he uses it in combat
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust25yn.jpg

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Third, Majestic has planet shattering strength so his punches will hurt Silver Surfer. Thanos has shown to KO Silver Surfer with punches and Thanos strength is no where near as strong as Majestics.

P.S. Thanos has defeated SS in h2h/close combat, Majestic dwarfs and out classes Thanos in this field by leaps and bounds, thus if Thanos can out speed and out power SS, Majestic can do it 100 fold. Thanos may use Tech, but Majestic has shown to have extremely high tier tech, including his sword, teliporters, image projectors, etc.

^Majestic strength was so strong that he had to create special gauntlets that he would use when moving a planet because other wise it would shatter.

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system043ke.jpg

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Fourth, durability on Majestic part may not be as tough as SS well majestic is in his base form, but majestic has shown to be able to change his matter to be able to become much much more durable. Majestic doesn't need to be as durable as SS, only durable enough to knock him off his board (this is explained later)

http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system158qq.jpg

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As for what Majestic will do to defeat Silver Surfer, Majestic will speed blitz SS in combat and knock him off his board with his superior strength, once SS is off his board SS is a floating brick in terms of speed, Majestic then pummels SS to death.

First SS without his board cannot fly or move in space and has no super speed.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/NorrinNotflyingann2.jpg

Second if SS trys to summon his board back to him, Majestic will use his far superior combat speed and agility and H2H/close range fighting to pummel SS away from his board, while moving at thousands of times the speed of light thus effectively keeping SS board from him.

SS has lost his board and summoned it back to him before, but it is no where near instantanious, it takes time seconds, all of which will cost SS the match, this scan shows that SS cannot instantaniously summon/recover his board.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Surfernotflying22.jpg

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Majestic could also use his magic to do this to SS, and once SS is off his board even for a second, Majestic moves at thousands of times the speed of light while SS is moving at the speed of a falling brick, to pummel SS away from his board (not in a straight line obviously thats where SS speed lies, but rather in circles, turnes, up down, etc.)
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7078117

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Not only can Majestic go for knocking SS off his board with Majestic superior combat speed, agility and h2h/close combat skill, but he could use his matter/reality manipulation to do this to SS board
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SurferandStranger-1.jpg


When has Majestic shown to be able to manipulate matter, time, space, and reality on a grand scale? In these scans of course!

He is turned to stone, and then in the next page he is back to normal by his own powers
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Another Example of Majestic manipulating mass matter is in this scan...Performs a bit of magic/reality altering and....
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system161tk.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system175lv.jpg
Voila. Binary star.

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Here Majestic manipulates time dust (manipulates time) then moving at thousands of times the speed of light ( while in combat ) he gets rid of it, and then returns to apprehend the badguy.

Inhales time dust:
http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?...imedust12cu.jpg

Wakes up with Saturn in the background, flies under the rings to get back to Earth, meaning he flew past it.
http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?i...imedust26gt.jpg

Returning in mid-rant to apprehend the badguy:
http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?i...imedust36bn.jpg

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So as you can see Majestic can indeed defeat SS and I dare argue that he could take the majority. Majestic just needs to fight intelligently, which he often does as shown here ^_^

Majestic and crew are being attacked by the building itself. After scanning on a molecular level, Maj decides he needs to go build some shit. In the VERY NEXT PAGE, he's back. He's researched and built (twice, since he had to change the plans) a brand new piece of technology almost instantly. Note how he describes the time spent in nanoseconds and thousandths of a second.
http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?i...uilding18dr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding25rr.jpg
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?...uilding38oc.jpg

Majestic has NEVER shattered planets to my recollection. Never.

He's pushed them, but this planet shattering you speak of doesn't exist.

And Surfer has flown through stars and blackholes.

The only way Majestic can win this, is if Surfer doesn't know he's in a fight.

His highend trumps Majestics. A by a fair bit.

Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.

P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.

P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.

pinch

Go easy on him, Uni. jockey

Originally posted by Jesse7
Did you skip my entire argument! I posted detail by detail how Majestic would win, Ive explained enough I'm done. Im convinced Majestic could defeat SS the way I explained.

P.S. majestic does have planet shattering strength, read his solo series, its when an object is coming towards the solar system that would mean destruction, so he designs and builds special gauntlets to move the planet, because without them he would shatter the planet as he moves it.

Idiot. He wore the gloves so that when he pushed against the planet, he wouldn't fly through it and break it apart.

That would happen if any durable brick was tossed at the planet at high speeds. Let Mangog throw colossus at the earth from space.

Colossus would probably break the planet apart.

Does that mean he has planet busting strength?

Either way, the planet busting means little when Surfer is faster than the guy.
Speedblitz only works when theirs a speed advantage.
Not disadvantage.
Majestic doesn't touch Surfer, if Surfer doesn't want him to.
Thats the flaw in your argument.

Majestic is apparently moving at the speed of light, while Surfer stands still like a douche.

Surfer is faster than Majestic.

Surfer is much more durable than Majestic.

Surfer has higher energy output Majestic.

How does Majestic win in your scenario??

Oh yeah, a guy quite a bit faster than him will stand there and let him beat on him.
Not happening.

Isnt the current Majestic supposed to be dying of chronal radiation cause of time/dimensional hopping, obviously his not immune to most energies + nerve pinches. SS does not have this weakness when time/dimension hopping, with his abilities to control forms of energy, I think he could very much defeat Majestric.

The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.

SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.

Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.

THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS

Originally posted by Rols
Isnt the current Majestic supposed to be dying of chronal radiation cause of time/dimensional hopping, obviously his not immune to most energies + nerve pinches. SS does not have this weakness when time/dimension hopping, with his abilities to control forms of energy, I think he could very much defeat Majestric.
He already died....and came back. It's a long story.

Can you provide scans on him fighting thouSOFL, i dont remember what issues was that? But all these sure didnt help him against Union dough.

Originally posted by Jesse7
The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.

SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.

Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.

THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS Mr. Majestic sure didn't look like he fights thousands of times of lightspeed when Superman Blue put his ass through a wall. Or when captain atom put him down

Originally posted by Jesse7
The whole argument was, and I provided scans for it, Surfer only has his speed while on his board.

SECONDLY, surfer has NEVER shown on panel to have thousands of times the speed of light speed IN BATTLE.

Now do you see why Majestic just has to knock him off his board, as so many have, which I posted SCANS showing, then surfer has no speed.

THIRDLY, Thanos KO'ED surfer with punches, Majestic is far stronger then thanos, and without ss board, Majestic could KO or KILL SS

But what you don't seem to understand, is that as soon as the bell rings, Surfer is gone.
He's easily maneuvarble on that board, to dodge majestic.

And Majestic hasn't the speed to catch up.

Your whole argument is based on Surfer being touched.
Majestic isn't fast enough to touch Surfer.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Meanwhile, Surfer is fast enough to touch Majestic.
He's got enough power to fry Majestic.
And he's durable enough to not even blink at planetary explosions.

There goes the planet busting speedblitz theory down the drain.

I wonder how many people arguing for or against Majestic have actually read his books?

Originally posted by Validus
I wonder how many people arguing for or against Majestic have actually read his books?

That a dig at me Vally??


Sure you wanna do that?






























Cuz i'll have you know......................

I believe Majestic has the speed/reflexes to contend with Surfer. Sure, he wouldn't win any races but in H2H it would be a whole different story.

When it comes to strength, I also see Maj as having an advantage.

Unfortunately, I'm not sure how Maj would do against him when it comes to durability.

I'm not sure which way to vote on this one as of yet.

Originally posted by UniOmni
That a dig at me Vally??


Sure you wanna do that?






























Cuz i'll have you know......................
Not at all. I just find it annoying theres one group on the board who judge Majestic negatively based on a few crossovers with DC characters and another who place him too high based on a respect thread. I'm fairly certain neither group has picked up an issue of his solo series.

Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.

And i see what you mean Vally.

When i see Majestic compared to PC Superman, its kinda funny. Cuz if they read his books, they'd see that he's an interesting character on his own.
And i actually hate that in everything he's compared to Superman.

I've enjoyed his latest books a lot more than i have Supermans.

There's an epic scope and feel to his stories that imo are lacking from alot of the other big heroes. Plus i love the art.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.
We've seen Surfer hurt by far less than Majestic too. Brick to the head from Karnak ring any bells? It sure as hell rung Norrin's bell.

Originally posted by Validus
We've seen Surfer hurt by far less than Majestic too. Brick to the head from Karnak ring any bells? It sure as hell rung Norrin's bell.

For that one, i'm going to make a thread with Kyle vs Deathstroke...............In hand to hand.



I take no prisoners

Uni Omni, as Avalon pointed out earlier, Majestic has the speed to combat SS in h2h, Majestic isnt faster in a race, but im combat SS has poor showings for speed.

If ss can speed blitz anyone in combat at the start, then why does Thanos punk SS in h2h every battle? Thanos is no where near as fast as Majestic.

If SS is so fast in battle, then why can Thor knock his block off? Thor is not thousands of times the speed of light as Majestic is.

As for the durability point, I posted a scan that Majestic can change his matter to become much more durable.

Majestic is not faster then SS that is true, but their speed is in the same level, and in terms of combat speed and agility Majestic far surpasses surfer. Surfer has poor showings for combat speed and
agility.

Majestic has the speed to keep up with Surfer in a battle, Surfer is fast but hes not going to be running circles around Majestic, so your point about Majestic not being able to touch SS is null.

Majestic is far stronger then surfer, and as for energy output I agree hes not as strong, but hes close to SS level, and he doesnt need to surpass SS in energy output, he just needs to knock him off his board and pummel him into submission.

You can claim SS will speed blitz Majestic at the start of the battle all you want, but untill you show scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light, and he isn't able to lay a finger on SS as you claim, then your claim is null and void. Well on the other hand I CAN post scans of SS being punked and pummeled in h2h and close quarter combat, as well as posting MANY scans of SS getting beaten down by people FAR slower then Majestic.

Silver Surfer has shown countless times to be weak to magic and mystical powers, Majestic has mystical/magic powers, which I have posted scans of him using already on a grand scale of him turning a star into a binary sun, its the scan after he manipulates his matter to become much more durable to go through the cores of stars.

A good example of this is when Dracula punked SS, where was SS speed there? This example also shows how weak SS is to magic and mystical powers.

Majestic did slap around the ole Eradicator there for awhile.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Uni Omni, as Avalon pointed out earlier, Majestic has the speed to combat SS in h2h, Majestic isnt faster in a race, but im combat SS has poor showings for speed.

If ss can speed blitz anyone in combat at the start, then why does Thanos punk SS in h2h every battle? Thanos is no where near as fast as Majestic.

If SS is so fast in battle, then why can Thor knock his block off? Thor is not thousands of times the speed of light as Majestic is.

As for the durability point, I posted a scan that Majestic can change his matter to become much more durable.

Majestic is not faster then SS that is true, but their speed is in the same level, and in terms of combat speed and agility Majestic far surpasses surfer. Surfer has poor showings for combat speed and
agility.

Majestic has the speed to keep up with Surfer in a battle, Surfer is fast but hes not going to be running circles around Majestic, so your point about Majestic not being able to touch SS is null.

Majestic is far stronger then surfer, and as for energy output I agree hes not as strong, but hes close to SS level, and he doesnt need to surpass SS in energy output, he just needs to knock him off his board and pummel him into submission.

You can claim SS will speed blitz Majestic at the start of the battle all you want, but untill you show scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light, and he isn't able to lay a finger on SS as you claim, then your claim is null and void. Well on the other hand I CAN post scans of SS being punked and pummeled in h2h and close quarter combat, as well as posting MANY scans of getting beaten down by people FAR slower then Majestic.

Silver Surfer has shown countless times to be weak to magic and mystical powers, Majestic has mystical/magic powers, which I have posted scans of him using already on a grand scale of him turning a star into a binary sun, its the scan after he manipulates his matter to become much more durable to go through the cores of stars.

Firstly.

Why does Darkseid hit Superman? Why does anybody??
For the sake of the plot.

I never said Surfer is going to speedblitz Majestros.

I only said, that he can fly circles around him. Thats the truth.

At the starting bell, Surfer can and will take off, faster than Majestic can keep up.
He can easily fly and shoot and win the battle that way. Its his mo.

Do you wanna know when combat speed matters??
When the opponent either has none, or to such a small degree in comparison that its null.

Surfer is way beyond Majestic in speed.

His average durability is significantly beyond him as well.

And Majestic doesn't have magical powers.

Nor reality manipulation. He can build items, though that do.

You can call it PIS CIS all you want, but untill you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light IN COMBAT, then your claims have no ground.

While I on the other hand have posted scans of MAjestic of being able to do this, SS is not going to dance circles around majestic.

Want to know why? Because through SS entire comic history he has been tagged, KO'ed, beaten down, and killed (by the red bugs during abraxas arc) by people FAR slower then Majestic and SS.

Secondly Majestic does have vast matter manipulation did you not look at the scans I posted shall I post them again?

THIRDLY majestic does have mystical powers, ill post the scans in a momment.

FOURTHLY SS durability as pointed out by Validius is not this all powerful durability as you make it sound, SS has been KO'ed by punches, he has been hurt by a knife, he has been hurt by Thor. SS can be beaten by brute force, Thor has done it before, Thanos has done it many times, runner has done it too, the stranger has.

Even in a fight, it doesn't take much to fly in a straight line and blitz somebody. I highly doubt Surfer is going to try to take Majestic in a pure slug-fest.

Originally posted by Jesse7
You call it PIS CIS all you want, but untill you show me scans of SS speed blitzing some one who can move thousands of times the speed of light IN COMBAT, then your claims have no ground.

While I on the other hand have posted scans of MAjestic of being able to do this, SS is not going to dance circles around majestic.

Want to know why? Because through SS entire comic history he has been tagged, KO'ed, beaten down, and killed (by the red bugs during abraxas arc) by people FAR slower then Majestic and SS.

As has Superman. And Majestic as well.

Flash was gutted last year by Deathstroke..............Deathstroke!

And Flash is the premier speedster.

So why do you single out Surfer for it, when every fast character has in the past?

And why do you keep bringing up speedblitzing??

I never said Surfer would speedblitz.

All i said, was that Surfer is more than fast enough to render such a thing moot.

Do you go by the name of JellyRobes on another board??

Cuz you sure aren't reading what i'm posting.

Your whole case rests on Majestic punching Surfer.

But when Surfer is past Majestic at the starting bell, he won't be able to keep up.

Thats the flaw in your case.

Its all dependent on Majestic touching what he can't touch.

And i know Surfer has been hurt by brute force.

Never said he hasn't.

But how is Majestic going to touch him??

And Thor and the knife that cut him, are both steeped in magic.

Its well known that Surfer as a creature of comic book science stuff, is vulnerable to magic.

And theres no shame in being koed, by someone whos stronger than you originally, but now being times ten.

Thats like me saying that WW being beaten by Sundipped Superman is a low showing.

I am reading you post, but are you READING mine? Majestic has the speed and reaction time to dodge and slug SS off his board ill post the scans again.

SS is only going to do so much in straight line, and Majestic isnt a dumb slow brick, his speed level is close enough to SS that he would be able to see SS.

AND I have posted Scans that Majestic has extremly fast analyzes and reaction speeds, faster then anything SS has ever shown in comics.

Majestic saw, analyzed, and reacted in PICTO seconds, that is faster then any reaction SS has ever shown on panel, and being able to react this fast with his thousands of times the speed of light speed he could dodge SS even if by an inch, and thats all MAjestic needs to slug SS off his board. Going at the speeds SS will be going at hes not going to be able to make a 90 degree turn fast enough to dodge Majestic.

Going fast in a straight line is dandy, but it is in no way going to win the fight, if anything it puts SS at a major dis advantage.

P.S. unlike Flash being stabed by DS, SS has had consistent bad showings for combat speed and agility through his entire comic history.

P.S.S. An example of why SS speed blitzing wouldn't work is this;

"Thanos for example is not the fastest of characters. However he has been shown to have reflexes that are sharp enough to hit characters who move at light speeds." -Soujaboy

Now Thanos is able to hit and KO SS, Majestic's combat, flight, and reaction speed all surpasses Thanos, now its not that hard to see why Majestic would KO SS.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Majestic is stronger than baseline Surfer. Easy.
Faster?? Wouldn't say that on his best day.

Durability?? Significantly less than.
Energy output?? A bit less than as well.

I've seen Majestic hurt, by alot less than what Surfer is capable of putting out.

And i see what you mean Vally.

When i see Majestic compared to PC Superman, its kinda funny. Cuz if they read his books, they'd see that he's an interesting character on his own.
And i actually hate that in everything he's compared to Superman.

I've enjoyed his latest books a lot more than i have Supermans.

There's an epic scope and feel to his stories that imo are lacking from alot of the other big heroes. Plus i love the art.

I wouldn't say SS is faster. On his board his travelling speed is excellent, but Maj is just as fast in one of his flying contraptions. While
Maj doesn't have Surfers accelaration on the board, he seems to be controlling his machine just fine. He's basically got a screen connected to an engine and nothing else here.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3779/majxe0.th.jpg

Reaction wise, they are the same.

Surfer has scanned and analyzed in pictoseconds as well.

But what you aren't getting, is that once the bell goes off, Surfer is gone.
Whether in front of him or behind, Surfer is gone.

Speedblitzing mean nothing, when the guy you're trying to blitz, is gone lightyears in the other direction, only to swoop back in and start shooting at you from a distance.

And the way you're writing Majestic, he'll keep on zooming into a face full of high powered cosmic energy.

And he can't take as much of that as others.

And theres a vast misconception about Surfer here it appears.

He isn't only fast in a straight line. He is hella shifty on that board.

So its not a simple blitz in and knock him off thing.

And i'd say Thanos is stronger than Majestic. Easily.

If you noticed, only heroes get lifting feats the majority of the time.

Darkseid hasn't lifted anything in ages, if ever, and yet we know he's stronger than Superman and the rest.

Why the disregard to Thanos?

And Avy, i got the comic. He's using that to cross a vast amount of space to find the citizens of Earth.

Thats not standard Majestic equipment.

Surfer's board is a mainstay of Surfer comics.

And i'd say Surfer is quite a bit faster.

Crossing the universe/galaxies in seconds >>>> Crossing universe/galaxies in several panels.

You just don't get it Omi! SS is not going to be past Majestic soon as the bell goes off, Majestic is going to see SS coming, dodge him and slug him off his board.

UniOmi why don't you post scans of Silver Surfer speed blitzing some one who moves at thousands of times the speed of light?

and Majestic is stronger then Thanos, when has thanos pushed planets around with his own strength and no tech or outside empowerment?

Originally posted by Jesse7
You just don't get it Omi! SS is not going to be past Majestic soon as the bell goes off, Majestic is going to see SS coming, dodge him and slug him off his board.

UniOmi why don't you post scans of Silver Surfer speed blitzing some one who moves at thousands of times the speed of light?

and Majestic is stronger then Thanos, when has thanos pushed planets around with his own strength and no tech or outside empowerment? Darksied, Thanos hell when have you seen Galactus just start lifting something, Doesn't mean he isn't stronger than gladiator or Hulk

Unlike the Galactus comment, Thanos has had plenty of times where he has demonstrated his strength, and it was no where near planet busting/moving strength.

Jesse, i swear its like i'm talking to a brick wall.

Where did i ever say Surfer was going to blitz Majestros??
Quote it please.

Surfer doesn't fly at people trying to hit them, unless its Thanos.

He circles them, and blasts from afar. Using his speed to keep away.

And when did Darkseid ever lift Something?? Really??

All we go on, is how they handle people with the lifting feats.
Thats how we've always done it.

Is Darkseid stronger than Majestic Jesse?? Is he stronger than Superman?

Originally posted by Jesse7
Unlike the Galactus comment, Thanos has had plenty of times where he has demonstrated his strength, and it was no where near planet busting/moving strength. Gladiator punches planets in dust, that doesn't mean hes stronger than Thanos.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Gladiator punches planets in dust, that doesn't mean hes stronger than Thanos.

Dude simply doesn't get it. Not a bad debator though.

Alright Uni, I see I misread that you said SS would be gone as in he would move away not at Majestic. Still Majestic could keep up with SS and dodge his blast, SS is faster then Majestic when traveling or going in a straight line, but when in combat and SS is circling, dodging, etc. Their speed is on the same level with Majestic for the advantage because when ever SS goes flying around people in a circle blasting them, he usually ends up KO'ed, knocked off his board or slugged by a fist or energy blast.

A good example of this is when SS fought Odin, he goes flying around at his uber fast speed, in strategic circles, and then ODin who is not faster then thousands of times the speed of light, blast him straight off his board. The point of this is not Odins power level, but that ODin who is not the fastest character was able to hit SS while SS was strategically moving at hyper speeds and blasting Odin with well place cosmic blast.

See what I'm saying here Omi?

Another example is when SS fought Thor because he was tricked by Loki, SS was flying around blasting Thor, and then Thor got serious and beat SS down, and even before Thor became Serious he was still holding off and making a joke of SS (he thought ss wanted to spar).

Majestic is faster then these characters I mentioned, far faster in speed, and reaction, he will be able to catch up to SS, unless SS is running away from Majestic in nothing but a straight line but then SS is not going to be able to attack Majestic. Majestic has the advantage here.

Do you need more examples?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Surfer has scanned and analyzed in pictoseconds as well.

But what you aren't getting, is that once the bell goes off, Surfer is gone.
Whether in front of him or behind, Surfer is gone.

Speedblitzing mean nothing, when the guy you're trying to blitz, is gone lightyears in the other direction, only to swoop back in and start shooting at you from a distance.

And the way you're writing Majestic, he'll keep on zooming into a face full of high powered cosmic energy.

And he can't take as much of that as others.

And theres a vast misconception about Surfer here it appears.

He isn't only fast in a straight line. He is hella shifty on that board.

So its not a simple blitz in and knock him off thing.

And i'd say Thanos is stronger than Majestic. Easily.

If you noticed, only heroes get lifting feats the majority of the time.

Darkseid hasn't lifted anything in ages, if ever, and yet we know he's stronger than Superman and the rest.

Why the disregard to Thanos?

And Avy, i got the comic. He's using that to cross a vast amount of space to find the citizens of Earth.

Thats not standard Majestic equipment.

Surfer's board is a mainstay of Surfer comics.

And i'd say Surfer is quite a bit faster.

Crossing the universe/galaxies in seconds >>>> Crossing universe/galaxies in several panels.

I never claimed that it's standard equipment for Maj. Simply that while the machine is reponsible for the propulsion, Maj is still basically flying it by sight. It's a pretty barebone flight contraption.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Ill post scans, one momment.

First panel of the next page, he's back to normal.
http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?...smagic053ht.jpg

^This shows that Majestic can combat matter manipulation, so no surfer wont be able to beat majestic by matter manipulation.

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Turns his own body into superdense material and makes the trip to the sun.
http://img52.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system142uv.jpg

^more matter manipulation, changes his matter.


IDK, did Maj reverse the stone transformation himself or did the glowing pyramid the chick was cradling while the other girl asked if it was working?

Likewise he didn't perform the second feat himself. He states it took one week in a 'transubstantiation tube'. Good tech showing but hardly one that's going to matter in battle.

Originally posted by Jesse7
Third, Majestic has planet shattering strength so his punches will hurt Silver Surfer. Thanos has shown to KO Silver Surfer with punches and Thanos strength is no where near as strong as Majestics.

P.S. Thanos has defeated SS in h2h/close combat, Majestic dwarfs and out classes Thanos in this field by leaps and bounds, thus if Thanos can out speed and out power SS, Majestic can do it 100 fold. Thanos may use Tech, but Majestic has shown to have extremely high tier tech, including his sword, teliporters, image projectors, etc.

^Majestic strength was so strong that he had to create special gauntlets that he would use when moving a planet because other wise it would shatter.

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?i...system043ke.jpg


That's just physics, like how the Baxter Building didn't collapse when Gladiator lifted it because of the field he subconsciously extended around it. In the scan where Majestic lifts the prison shift he says thats what the gloves do.

I'd think Surfer could augment his strength to these levels at any rate.

Point being he has planet shattering strength, the gloves weren't my main point.

Well I think my previous post before this one sums up why Majestic can take SS for the majority.

Gladiator, and Hulk both have planet buster punshes. Gladiador himself still moves at warp speed. SS wins this

Originally posted by Jesse7
Have any of you looked at the Majestic respect thread? Majestic is like pre crisis superman, intelligence and ability to create things included, plus he has no exploitable weaknesses.

I thin ss could beat Pre crisis superman therefore i think he can beat majestic