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Creative


n.

One who displays productive originality



In lieu of Best Newcomer male, since like, NONE of the panel could think of much in that way, I've decided to go off in another direction : Most Creative, thanks in large part, to Ms. LethalFemme, who came up with the idea. There are only 5 nominees.

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Creative


n.

One who displays productive originality



In lieu of Best Newcomer male, since like, NONE of the panel could think of much in that way, I've decided to go off in another direction : Most Creative, thanks in large part, to Ms. LethalFemme, who came up with the idea. There are only 5 nominees.

I like how you had to define it....also, LF should be on it, she's be my choice (further displayed by her having this idea in the first place)

Originally posted by Bardock42
I like how you had to define it....also, LF should be on it, she's be my choice (further displayed by her having this idea in the first place)

I'm on the list? what the fuggle? is it because I give out cookies and muffins?^^

Originally posted by Bardock42
I like how you had to define it....also, LF should be on it, she's be my choice (further displayed by her having this idea in the first place)

Maybe I should try to edit it...

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Maybe I should try to edit it...

Yeah you should try...although we both know it won't work, right?

Originally posted by Roulette
I'm on the list? what the fuggle? is it because I give out cookies and muffins?^^

I think it may be more than that, but I agree with the nomination.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah you should try...although we both know it won't work, right?

Well, we do now...

*runs off to find a mod*

Originally posted by Roulette
I'm on the list? what the fuggle? is it because I give out cookies and muffins?^^

Or maybe because your artwork is beyond belief

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Well, we do now...

*runs off to find a mod*

But, but....mods...and stuff...

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
I think it may be more than that, but I agree with the nomination.

Thanks!^^

*dances* WooHoo!!!

Originally posted by Syren
Or maybe because your artwork is beyond belief

*sinks into chair* thank you ma'am.

Originally posted by Roulette
Thanks!^^

*dances* WooHoo!!!

see, she's creative ....

Originally posted by Bardock42
But, but....mods...and stuff...

It's the only way Marrrius! For God's sake man *slaps him* Canna ye see tha???

Originally posted by Roulette


*sinks into chair* thank you ma'am.

hug

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
It's the only way Marrrius! For God's sake man *slaps him* Canna ye see tha???



I almost heard you try that accent.

Originally posted by Syren
Or maybe because your artwork is beyond belief

yes Agreed.

Originally posted by Syren
hug





I almost heard you try that accent.

That's because I'm right behind you. Boo.


You looked, didn't you?

Have you SEEN the portrait pic she did for me? cry

(Yeah, I looked)

((Looked where?))

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
It's the only way Marrrius! For God's sake man *slaps him* Canna ye see tha???

But...you will sell out to them

Originally posted by Syren
Have you SEEN the portrait pic she did for me? cry

(Yeah, I looked)

Yeah, I wanted to make love to it....

SCOTT toot

You need to put the award titles in capital letters so I can find them more easily...

Originally posted by Syren
hug

hug I lub hugs^-^

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
yes Agreed.

Thanks Mr Moose

Originally posted by Syren
Have you SEEN the portrait pic she did for me? cry

(Yeah, I looked)

((Looked where?))

I did, it's absolutely amazing.

Behind you.

Quit looking at my ass nono

Originally posted by Syren
SCOTT toot

You need to put the award titles in capital letters so I can find them more easily...

KEZZINATOR!!

I will, ok?

Spanks eyes

Originally posted by Roulette
hug I lub hugs^-^



Thanks Mr Moose

Yeah, well.....heh...you know....I mean.....

Originally posted by Syren
Quit looking at my ass nono

No.

*keeps looking at ass*

Originally posted by Syren
Quit looking at my ass nono

Yes.

*keeps looking at ass*

*covers ass*

Go and capitalize, mister.

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Yeah, well.....heh...you know....I mean.....

*hands you a cookie*

voted

Originally posted by Roulette
*hands you a cookie*

What a creative way to say 'I want you'.

I wanna vote for two cry

I'm on the poll. Cool w00t

Roulette's winning toot

I vote Jen.

Make a ''Best Dutch Member'' Award. glare

Roulette For sure.

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
What a creative way to say 'I want you'.

you're just as skanky as Bardock^^ hehe

holy crap! I'm winning....wow...thanks for your votes everyone!^-^

No love from the Moosey again... I must be invisible or something shock

hug

Originally posted by Coldfire
No love from the Moosey again... I must be invisible or something shock

Ugh...listen, I don't put the peoples names on there!! I coerced, I mean, got people to volunteer on a panel to nominate people. It's not my doing. Honestly.

Originally posted by Roulette
you're just as skanky as Bardock^^ hehe

holy crap! I'm winning....wow...thanks for your votes everyone!^-^

Hell no! I'm waaaay skankier than that priest.

Coldfire should have been on there... but that's the panel's mistake, not Moose's

Forgive us Amber??

So few people think I'm creative

Only in comparison to Roulette, don't be disheartened. Perhaps the majority of people who've voted aren't yet aware of your talents hug

Originally posted by Lana
So few people think I'm creative I'd vote for you, but I think you aren't creative.

Originally posted by Lana
So few people think I'm creative

You're in second place......don't complain.

Originally posted by Syren
Only in comparison to Roulette, don't be disheartened. Perhaps the majority of people who've voted aren't yet aware of your talents hug

Doesn't help that most people don't realize which artwork thread is mine because it's never been renamed when I changed my username (even though I kinda asked Lil to several times)...

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'd vote for you, but I think you aren't creative.

Have you seen my stuff.

Originally posted by Lana
Doesn't help that most people don't realize which artwork thread is mine because it's never been renamed when I changed my username (even though I kinda asked Lil to several times)...


Well, there's your answer

Originally posted by Lana

Have you seen my stuff.

Well, I have seen some of your sigs....I never really felt the urge to visit your thread though....so I did only once or twice, can't really remember though.

Bardock, quit provoking her nono

Originally posted by Syren
Well, there's your answer

I've PMed Storm to get it fixed

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I have seen some of your sigs....I never really felt the urge to visit your thread though....so I did only once or twice, can't really remember though.

I don't count sigs as I barely spend more than a half hour on them. My actual artwork is way different and is stuff I sell.

Originally posted by Lana
I don't count sigs as I barely spend more than a half hour on them. My actual artwork is way different and is stuff I sell.

Yeah, well, that doesn't mean it is good or creative though.

You don't need to defend yourself against Bardock... I mean, he's Bardock

Originally posted by Syren
You don't need to defend yourself against Bardock... I mean, he's Bardock

At least you didn't say German, anyways, your thread is renamed now.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, well, that doesn't mean it is good or creative though.

People who's opinions I value much more in that regard than you would tend to disagree with you.

Originally posted by Lana
People who's opinions I value much more in that regard than you would tend to disagree with you.

Then they are idiots.

Originally posted by Bardock42
At least you didn't say German, anyways, your thread is renamed now.

My thread is renamed?

Originally posted by Syren
My thread is renamed?

Yeah, I most probably meant your thread...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Then they are idiots.

I dunno, I wouldn't say professionally trained artists are idiots.

Originally posted by Lana
I dunno, I wouldn't say professionally trained artists are idiots.

People that deny that someone can sell stuff without being good or creative are idiots regardless of their profession. But I get what you are saying, I didn't mean that your stuff/you are not good or creative, I'm hardly in a position to judge that.

A lot of people on American Idol are professionally trained, Lana.

I don't see why you're getting antsy because people on KMC aren't praising your art. You like it, don't you? Bardock doesn't think you're creative, no need to try proving him wrong. He simply doesn't think you are.

Originally posted by Syren
You don't need to defend yourself against Bardock... I mean, he's Bardock

He's also one of the more intelligent (different to knowledge) members of this forum, often underrated because he acts so silly.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A lot of people on American Idol are professionally trained, Lana.

I don't see why you're getting antsy because people on KMC aren't praising your art. You like it, don't you? Bardock doesn't think you're creative, no need to try proving him wrong. He simply doesn't think you are.



He's also one of the more intelligent (different to knowledge) members of this forum, often underrated because he acts so silly.

-AC

I came to a bit of a realization yesterday, and quite a large part of it was about my art. So if I'm seeming antsy about it, it's because I'm still a bit moody and on edge.

(part of it was that I recently found someone stealing my stuff. Not cool at all.)

Originally posted by Lana
I came to a bit of a realization yesterday, and quite a large part of it was about my art. So if I'm seeming antsy about it, it's because I'm still a bit moody and on edge.

(part of it was that I recently found someone stealing my stuff. Not cool at all.)

That's fair enough, but there will come a time where you'll have to accept responsibility for things you say instead of putting it down to errant emotions, but that's just me.

Either way, it's not Bardock's fault.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's fair enough, but there will come a time where you'll have to accept responsibility for things you say instead of putting it down to errant emotions, but that's just me.

Either way, it's not Bardock's fault.

-AC

I'm not putting it down to being in a bad mood. I'd be the same way about it regardless. As I said, I came to a bit of a realization about a lot of stuff yesterday, my artwork included, and this is part of it.

Originally posted by Lana
I'm not putting it down to being in a bad mood. I'd be the same way about it regardless. As I said, I came to a bit of a realization about a lot of stuff yesterday, my artwork included, and this is part of it.

What realization?

Originally posted by Lana
I'm not putting it down to being in a bad mood. I'd be the same way about it regardless. As I said, I came to a bit of a realization about a lot of stuff yesterday, my artwork included, and this is part of it.

So you'd have said it to him regardless? Why do you have such a problem with him not finding you creative? I'm honestly not trying to have a go at you, I'm just very curious. Because you also said:

Originally posted by Lana
People who's opinions I value much more in that regard than you would tend to disagree with you.

Part of being an artist is accepting criticism, Lana. If you pay attention and accept the good, you have to accept the bad. Either that or pay attention to what nobody says. If you value them higher simply because they believe you are creative, then that's rather bad.

You should know that.

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
What realization?

I'll not go into it in public.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So you'd have said it to him regardless? Why do you have such a problem with him not finding you creative? I'm honestly not trying to have a go at you, I'm just very curious. Because you also said:



Part of being an artist is accepting criticism, Lana. If you pay attention and accept the good, you have to accept the bad. Either that or pay attention to what nobody says. If you value them higher simply because they believe you are creative, then that's rather bad.

You should know that.

-AC

Ever hear of sarcasm? Or should I have tacked a '' on the end there to make that clear?

Originally posted by Lana
Ever hear of sarcasm? Or should I have tacked a '' on the end there to make that clear?

Why are you getting antsy? You're the one who said it, I said I'm not having a go and you go into defense mode.

Let's be honest, that's just an excuse because someone has pulled you up on it. Anyone who read that comment can clearly see you meant what you said, at least take responsibility. I'm not stupid, I know the difference between an ambigious post and one that is later passed off as sarcasm.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri




Part of being an artist is accepting criticism, Lana. If you pay attention and accept the good, you have to accept the bad. Either that or pay attention to what nobody says. If you value them higher simply because they believe you are creative, then that's rather bad.

You should know that.

-AC

Constructive Criticism AC. Lana shouldn't have to accept just plain old criticism. Especially in her artistic skills.

What's wrong with you people. Are you unable to follow an ordinary conversation?

I like purple stuff.....

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Constructive Criticism AC. Lana shouldn't have to accept just plain old criticism. Especially in her artistic skills.

She does have to accept that some people simply won't find her creative. That's how the world works. I don't find the mod system good, but instead of saying to me: "Well, we like other people's opinions more, and they disagree.", I have actually been asked for my in depth opinion on the matter, and that is something I have respect for, because it shows that some people realise that you have to take good with bad.

Instead of saying "Why do you not find me creative?", she chose to say "Well there are opinions I value more than yours, and they disagree.". Wrong way of dealing with things, quite simply.

I like her art, personally, and she knows that. I think she's very creative, but Bardock doesn't. She took exception to that, didn't she?

-AC

But, but...I never said that...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why are you getting antsy? You're the one who said it, I said I'm not having a go and you go into defense mode.

Let's be honest, that's just an excuse because someone has pulled you up on it. Anyone who read that comment can clearly see you meant what you said, at least take responsibility. I'm not stupid, I know the difference between an ambigious post and one that is later passed off as sarcasm.

-AC

And sometimes, you're just completely off-base altogether.

And saying "I don't find that good or creative" isn't constructive criticism. Concrit would be saying "I don't like this part of it, why don't you try that?", and things along those lines. I'm fine with concrit. What I'm not fine with is people saying stuff it isn't and then later trying to pass it off as concrit.

Not to mention that he also said that he had never even seen my art when he first said that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But, but...I never said that...

Were you serious to begin with?

AC - my Bardock comment was a joke

Originally posted by Lana
And sometimes, you're just completely off-base altogether.

And saying "I don't find that good or creative" isn't constructive criticism. Concrit would be saying "I don't like this part of it, why don't you try that?", and things along those lines. I'm fine with concrit. What I'm not fine with is people saying stuff it isn't and then later trying to pass it off as concrit.

Now who's off base? I'm not basing my argument on Bardock, I'm basing it on your ability to not accept that you'll get negative criticism. I'm not saying you have to like criticism that isn't constructive, but you have to accept you'll get it.

Just like you'll get people saying "That's good." without any further explanation, and I'm sure you'd have no problem with that, would you? That's not constructive.

I have said to you, many times, "I find that very good.", opposite of Bardock's comment. You haven't said a word to me, why him?

-AC

I said I like purple things.....

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
I said I like purple things.....

Like plums?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Now who's off base? I'm not basing my argument on Bardock, I'm basing it on your ability to not accept that you'll get negative criticism. I'm not saying you have to like criticism that isn't constructive, but you have to accept you'll get it.

Just like you'll get people saying "That's good." without any further explanation, and I'm sure you'd have no problem with that, would you? That's not constructive.

I have said to you, many times, "I find that very good.", opposite of Bardock's comment. You haven't said a word to me, why him?

-AC

I added an edit on to my post that explains a bit better as to why I made my initial comment. He said that he'd never even seen any of my stuff beyond some of my sigs. Kind of makes it an invalid opinion then, wouldn't you think?

Originally posted by Syren
Like plums?

Hmm. Yep..those are good.

Do you? Do you, Kerry 'hotpants' Barker, like purple things?

Originally posted by Syren
Were you serious to begin with?

AC - my Bardock comment was a joke

Yes I was serious with all I said, I jsut think no one understood what I said...

Originally posted by Lana
I added an edit on to my post that explains a bit better as to why I made my initial comment. He said that he'd never even seen any of my stuff beyond some of my sigs. Kind of makes it an invalid opinion then, wouldn't you think?

Did you miss the part where I said I'm not specifically defending HIS case with ALL my argument?

If he hasn't even seen your artwork, then he simply cannot comment on your artwork. It doesn't mean he can't find you non-creative in other ways that he's seen.

My main point is: You said you're against criticism that isn't constructive, yet you've never said a bad word to me in all the times I've simply praised your work without so much as a "Well I think..." style explanation.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Hmm. Yep..those are good.

Do you? Do you, Kerry 'hotpants' Barker, like purple things?

shock

I think you got the wrong Kerry - aha - that's not my second name

Originally posted by Syren
shock

I think you got the wrong Kerry - aha - that's not my second name

I can't spell Ann.

Oh...oh shit! Look what I did!!^^

I voted for Lana

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Did you miss the part where I said I'm not specifically defending HIS case with ALL my argument?

If he hasn't even seen your artwork, then he simply cannot comment on your artwork. It doesn't mean he can't find you non-creative in other ways that he's seen.

My main point is: You said you're against criticism that isn't constructive, yet you've never said a bad word to me in all the times I've simply praised your work without so much as a "Well I think..." style explanation.

-AC

And as I said initially, I don't think he can judge whether I am creative or not unless he HAS seen my artwork, because I really don't put any effort into my sigs at all unless it's for a contest or something.

And why would I? I know you, I know you're honest, and I know that if I ask you for concrit I'll get it. What I don't like is when people don't like something yet don't explain it - how does that help me any? How does that help me see what it is that I could improve on? It doesn't.

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
I can't spell Ann.

Oh...oh shit! Look what I did!!^^

Yeah, yeah... Kerry Ann Barker is my name. Laugh it up mhm

Actually I just realized it is my fault.....I made this hilariously funny joke to begin with.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'd vote for you, but I think you aren't creative.

And when I was confronted with a total lack of humour I, instead of solving it or continuing to joke, just went back to serious mode with this:

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I have seen some of your sigs....I never really felt the urge to visit your thread though....so I did only once or twice, can't really remember though.

That was just meant as a true answer not related to what I said before.

So when she said that she sold her stuff I just wanted to generally explain that selling stuff (even art) doesn't mean that the stuff is creative or good...I did that by posting this:

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, well, that doesn't mean it is good or creative though.

After that I decided to call anyone that disagrees with this very reasonable opinion an idiotOriginally posted by Bardock42
Then they are idiots.
....and then it kinda went off....so...everything clear now?

Originally posted by Syren
Yeah, yeah... Kerry Ann Barker is my name. Laugh it up mhm

That wasn't what I was doing.

I was trying to give you a new nickname...like Hotpants....or Hoochie Mama....or Rick.

Originally posted by Syren
Yeah, yeah... Kerry Ann Barker is my name. Laugh it up mhm

My mom's first name is Ann

We got something in the mail once that I guess was supposed to be addressed to both of us, but instead of saying 'Ann and Alana', it said 'Ana'

Originally posted by Lana
My mom's first name is Ann

We got something in the mail once that I guess was supposed to be addressed to both of us, but instead of saying 'Ann and Alana', it said 'Ana'

So who got to open it??

Originally posted by Lana
And as I said initially, I don't think he can judge whether I am creative or not unless he HAS seen my artwork, because I really don't put any effort into my sigs at all unless it's for a contest or something.

And why would I? I know you, I know you're honest, and I know that if I ask you for concrit I'll get it. What I don't like is when people don't like something yet don't explain it - how does that help me any? How does that help me see what it is that I could improve on? It doesn't.

I totally understand why you hate it, and you have every right to hate it, but how do you know that despite what I say, there are things I believe could be improved on? Hypothetically?

That said, I've never seen you ask for concrit from any of the replies on your site, most of them being one liners, hardly constructive at all.

Point being, if you dislike criticism without it being constructive, you should dislike it from both ends. Not everyone is as honest as I am, they could have many ideas for improvement but not say it.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
So who got to open it??

I did, and on the inside it said Ann and Alana

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I totally understand why you hate it, and you have every right to hate it, but how do you know that despite what I say, there are things I believe could be improved on? Hypothetically?

That said, I've never seen you ask for concrit from any of the replies on your site, most of them being one liners, hardly constructive at all.

Point being, if you dislike criticism without it being constructive, you should dislike it from both ends. Not everyone is as honest as I am, they could have many ideas for improvement but not say it.

-AC

Yeah, most people only post one-liners on there, and more increasingly, people just don't post anything at all, which while I'm glad people like it, I really would rather get SOME sort of response. But I do have a few people on there who have always given me crit, and I've improved a LOT because of it.

(and quite frankly, I spend a few hours a day answering messages on there anyway, and there are oftentimes that I have too many to even reply to. And I'm not even that well-known)

Yes, yes...no one reads my posts cry

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually I jsut realized it is my fault.....I made this hilariously funny joke to begin with.



And when I was confronted with a total lack of humour I, instead of solving it or continuing to joke, just went back to serious mode with this:



That was just meant as a true answer not related to what I said before.

So when she said that she sold her stuff I jsut wanted to generally explain that selling stuff (even art) doesn't mean that the stuff is creative or good...I did that by posting this:



After that I decided to call anyone that disagrees with this very reasonable opinion an idiot
....and then it kinda went off....so...everything clear now?

hug

Originally posted by Lana
I did, and on the inside it said Ann and Alana





Must have been teribly confusing for the both of you though. I hope it hasn't impaired you in any way...like, not being able to trust the mail. Or, questioning your name...or...worse....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, yes...no one reads my posts cry

Stop speaking in broken Gernglish and maybe someone will marble mouth.

This is where I paraphrase Jay, from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

I am the crit commander! None of you f*cks master a crit like I do, not this little f*ck (Bardock), none of you little f*cks out there. Whenever you see crit you'll see this face.

-AC

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Stop speaking in broken Gernglish and maybe someone will marble mouth.

...

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Must have been teribly confusing for the both of you though. I hope it hasn't impaired you in any way...like, not being able to trust the mail. Or, questioning your name...or...worse....



It was from our car insurance company and we're on the same policy. I guess they were just really lazy with addressing the envelope

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is where I paraphrase Jay, from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

I am the crit commander! None of you f*cks master a crit like I do, not this little f*ck (Bardock), none of you little f*cks out there. Whenever you see crit you'll see this face.

-AC

hehe, that would be soo funny if a Chinese guy said that.....well...or if you had quoted the real thing.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This is where I paraphrase Jay, from Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

I am the crit commander! None of you f*cks master a crit like I do, not this little f*ck (Bardock), none of you little f*cks out there. Whenever you see crit you'll see this face.

-AC



That movie is awesome.

Originally posted by Bardock42
...

Good job Juergen.

Originally posted by Lana


It was from our car insurance company and we're on the same policy. I guess they were just really lazy with addressing the envelope

Or maybe....MAYBE, there is someone out there named Ana...umm Stardust, who's taken over the ID's of you AND your mother, and she's out there now, sullying your good names....ruining your lives.....

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Or maybe....MAYBE, there is someone out there named Ana...umm Stardust, who's taken over the ID's of you AND your mother, and she's out there now, sullying your good names....ruining your lives.....

Ana Stardust?

Well, that could work if Stardust were my last name

Originally posted by Lana
Ana Stardust?

Well, that could work if Stardust were my last name

Given I don't KNOW your last name, I went with what I think it SHOULD be.

Alana Stardust? Sounds like a character from Chicago. Not the place.. ironic, that

Originally posted by Syren
Alana Stardust? Sounds like a character from Chicago. Not the place.. ironic, that

If ever I decide to go into acting, that shall be my stage name queen

Originally posted by Lana
If ever I decide to go into acting, that shall be my stage name queen

No no...you should call yourself, Veronica Tofflemyre. droolio

Originally posted by ~Da Moose~
Hell no! I'm waaaay skankier than that priest.

Haha^-^....jeez, I dunno...Bardock's really skanky

Originally posted by Lana
So few people think I'm creative

I voted for youhug I think you're extremely creative m'dear.

w00t

Roulette!!

blushing Thanks for the votes everyone!