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And these band together to stop him

LT
Thanos/HOTU
Classic Beyonder
Multi Eternity
Oblivion
Infinity
Death
Full Powered Galactus
All the Celestials
All the Watchers
Phoenix
The Hunger

Do the universes, or some of them, live?

Hell no

no, TOAA is all of those beings, he is there true creator (stan lee), the only one that may not be destroyed is pre ret beyonder, but if you think stan lee is truly TOAA as most do, then he would beable to retcon him as has already been done.............hope that makes sense lol!

Only being that can stand up to TOAA is Jack Kirby.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Only being that can stand up to TOAA is Jack Kirby.
Exactly.wasn't it Jack Kirby that reed saw when he was trying to get Ben back?

everyone dies including beyonder.

toaa is supreme being in marvel.

Marvel is a megaverse...
our marvel family. including all of our "cousins" its our multiverse and any other "multiverses" such as new universe and ultraverse.
megaverses contain multiverses..
our universe, cannon and noncannon
multiverses can universese
our universe 616

TOAA is lord over Marvel. IE the megaverse. There is noone over TOAA, because TOAA is the supreme being of all that is marvel. including beyonder.

The beyonder is beyond "our" multiverse. it does not mean he is beyond our megaverse. he could be from new universe, or ultraverse... or anything else... just not from the multiverse that includes 616 earth.

TOAA dissipates everyone rather easily.

Classic Beyonder takes care of this easily....

bone claws wolverine, nuff said.

All the verses in there give me a headache...but if TOAA is out to destroy everything we're basically screwed.

Batman with prep, Bone claws wolves, and Superman with plot device powers: Are all that are need to curbstomp TOAA.

Stan Lee takes out the universes loses all his money and becomes a hobo who lives next door to M.C. Hammer

Originally posted by bigbran
bone claws wolverine, nuff said. Originally posted by Inhuman
Batman with prep, Bone claws wolves, and Superman with plot device powers: Are all that are need to curbstomp TOAA.
You guys are brutal.

don't forget Robin..the boy wonder...he pimp slapped the Tribunal and Spectre a while back. All he has to do is bow up on TOAA..and TOAA flinches..lol

Originally posted by Broly92
Stan Lee takes out the universes loses all his money and becomes a hobo who lives next door to M.C. Hammer
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS

What if? Stan Lee ended up in a box next to Gary Gygax, and GG came back to take over Marvel!!!

what if he ended up beside micheal jackson, all i can say is " run franklin, run!!"

Baby. Forget that. Michael would see Franklin and be like.. eh. he's too old!

Originally posted by illadelph12
Only being that can stand up to TOAA is Jack Kirby. Is that why Dr. Doom switched his minds with the writers that one time to make the FF fall into a trap a long time ago?

can someone explain this? it says hes was last online on aug 11th 2006, but im pretty sure he was banned long before then!
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=28235

TOAA.......hmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by Broly92
Stan Lee takes out the universes loses all his money and becomes a hobo who lives next door to M.C. Hammer

Bah, TOAA = God. God in the MU = Jack Kirby

OK, OK. I'll add Wolverine to the team.

squirrel girl, bone claw wolverine, aunt may, seriously TOAA is going to be crying for momma kirby.

Why even making such thread, we all know no one stand 1% chance against TOAA. Only TOAA has literally unlimited power and is limitless in any department.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Why even making such thread, we all know no one stand 1% chance against TOAA. Only TOAA has literally unlimited power and is limitless in any department. Originally posted by bigbran
squirrel girl, bone claw wolverine, aunt may, seriously TOAA is going to be crying for momma kirby.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Why even making such thread, we all know no one stand 1% chance against TOAA. Only TOAA has literally unlimited power and is limitless in any department.


Hell.....why not?

TOAA = a writer... nothing more.
Can a writer by will end Marvel Corps? Not really.

And if you go by power (as the comic character TOAA (not celestrial).
He is supose to equal Thanos with the Heart.
And be lesser than classic Beyonder and classic Molecule man.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
TOAA = a writer... nothing more.
Can a writer by will end Marvel Corps? Not really.

And if you go by power (as the comic character TOAA (not celestrial).
He is supose to equal Thanos with the Heart.
And be lesser than classic Beyonder and classic Molecule man. Supposed, but very debateable.

All of them loses to TOAA. But than in the mist of the debris stands Chuck Norris. A roundhouse kick and that sends TOAA packing.

Originally posted by rotiart
everyone dies including beyonder.

TOAA is lord over Marvel. IE the megaverse. There is noone over TOAA, because TOAA is the supreme being of all that is marvel. including beyonder.

The beyonder is beyond "our" multiverse. it does not mean he is beyond our megaverse. he could be from new universe, or ultraverse... or anything else... just not from the multiverse that includes 616 earth.
.
1, You say including classic Beyonder like he still exist, tell me kid; what does retcon mean huh?

2, In literal sence:
Multi-verse = More than one dimention/universe
Mega-verse = 1,000,000 - 999,999,999 dimentions/universes

- I know that a dimention does nt equal a universe in comics.

In Marvel they decided to call their Mutli-verse for a Mega-verse.
But fact is this was after they retconned Beyonder.

So basicly the "Entire Multi-verse" equals the Marvel Mega-verse.
they changed it becuase by saying multi-verse you can mean a part of marvel (just 2 universes for example) but when you refere to the mega-verse there can be no misstake.

- But Beyonder was the entire Multi-verse, and beyond...

Bassicly Marvel's time-stream stretches out to infinity so there is actually an infinity amounts of universes in Marvel.
So it isnt really (even due to the name) a mega-verse.

Originally posted by joesha28
All of them loses to TOAA. But than in the mist of the debris stands Chuck Norris. A roundhouse kick and that sends TOAA packing.
In comical sense yes, in truth Chuck Norris would have problem beating anyone now`adays

Originally posted by bigbran
Supposed, but very debateable.
Jim Starlin was the one that invented TOAA, his name first appeared in a comic writen and drawed by him.
Every writer is the God of their comic's.
Do you think Jack Kirby have affected the story lines of Starlin?

The writers decide whats supose to happend ect. Marvel decides if it should be produced.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Jim Starlin was the one that invented TOAA, his name first appeared in a comic writen and drawed by him.
Every writer is the God of their comic's.
Do you think Jack Kirby have affected the story lines of Starlin?

The writers decide whats supose to happend ect. Marvel decides if it should be produced. Huh? I was talking about THOTU being below Classic Beyonder.

Originally posted by bigbran
Huh? I was talking about THOTU being below Classic Beyonder.
Oh yeah it is...

I said that he (Thanos) was lesser than Beyonder and Molecule man (--classic)

Bump

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Bump

i can i will kick his ass

Glactus summons Stan Lee to him and smashes him.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Glactus summons Stan Lee to him and smashes him.
Stan Lee IS TOAA.

TOAA is infinitly beyond all of the guys on this, he may even be beyond the presence.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Stan Lee IS TOAA.

TOAA is infinitly beyond all of the guys on this, he may even be beyond the presence.

There's a scan in the Galactus Respect thread the shows the Big G summoning Stan to the comic world.

(the post was a joke BTW)

APOC would be the only one left

Hulk=TOAA

Except Hulk is stronger.

Flashernaut destroys the pathetic TOAA

Originally posted by Bentley
Hulk=TOAA

Except Hulk is stronger.
Don't forget... the... HULK KILLER HUMANOID...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Oh yeah it is...

I said that he (Thanos) was lesser than Beyonder and Molecule man (--classic)

Do you guys understand the meaning of The One Above ALL absolutely all in the plain of existence anywhere at anytime, part of omnipresence, TOAA is above and characters that we trough in except perhaps the presence but that the only being that in can think of that would stand something of a chance against a being of this calibre.

ummm the beyonder is kinda TOAA of his own universe sooooo he'd win he had power equal to millions of times the multiverse.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Do you guys understand the meaning of The One Above ALL absolutely all in the plain of existence anywhere at anytime, part of omnipresence, TOAA is above and characters that we trough in except perhaps the presence but that the only being that in can think of that would stand something of a chance against a being of this calibre.

either Jack Kirby or Stan Lee is assumed to be TOAA (no one in comics has a chance period)

Originally posted by Mider999
ummm the beyonder is kinda TOAA of his own universe sooooo he'd win he had power equal to millions of times the multiverse.
TOAA has juristriction over the beyond realm as well.

TOAA takes his pencil and erases all the characters....then throws the paper away.

no he doesnt, not the original beyonder realm, even galactus said he was from outside the multiverse.

Originally posted by Mider999
no he doesnt, not the original beyonder realm, even galactus said he was from outside the multiverse.

i wonder if g knew why air walker was slain in battle w/ovoids

what you talking about, i own the secret wars comics, part one and two, when he died he released millions of times as much power as the multiverse not even millions but hundreds of millions or even more, he was his own universe.

Thats right, TOAA cannot beat the HULK KILLER HUMANOID. I never remember that guy because I'm even scared of thinking about him.

Originally posted by Mider999
what you talking about, i own the secret wars comics, part one and two, when he died he released millions of times as much power as the multiverse not even millions but hundreds of millions or even more, he was his own universe.

But all Galactus said in secret wars two was that he feelt that Galactus was beyond the current univers not beyond the entire omnivers, following your logic then the beyonders should if they manifest all become beings above or on pair with TOAA which in don't think is marvels idea with the TOAA then we should insteed say "one of many TOAA"

Originally posted by Utrigita
But all Galactus said in secret wars two was that he feelt that Galactus was beyond the current univers not beyond the entire omnivers, following your logic then the beyonders should if they manifest all become beings above or on pair with TOAA which in don't think is marvels idea with the TOAA then we should insteed say "one of many TOAA"

i found it odd, where g started to feast and doom got his power

another thing, beyonder had all that power and puma was the one who could have killed him respect puma

i am wondering who are true beyonders, are they responsible for owen and beyonder

Originally posted by guy222
i found it odd, where g started to feast and doom got his power

another thing, beyonder had all that power and puma was the one who could have killed him respect puma

i am wondering who are true beyonders, are they responsible for owen and beyonder

Exactly the beyonder is a part of the beyonders, and yes owen and beyonder are connectet, when owen first got his powers under an experiment gone bad, a hole was torn in space which allowed beyonder to have a lot inside oure univers. And i believe the true beyonders are a force to be reakond with (will find something on them)

The Beyonders are a race of immensely powerful entities who exist in a dimension other than of Earth. No one from antwhere within Earth's dimension has ever seen one or more of the Beyonders, and apparently no one ever will. The Beyonders are so different in nature from the known beings of Earth's dimension that it is beyond the scope of human comprehension to understand what kind of entities the Beyonders are. It is known that the Beyonders are not "beings" in the sense that that term is used to describe the known living beings in the Earth dimension. The Beyonders apparently do not experience time as a chronological progression, as the known living beings of Earth's dimension do. The limit of the Beyonders' power are unknown. However, teir nature is so alien that they are unable to leave their own dimension. Hence, in their dealings with the Earth dimension, they must operate through agents. It is known that the Beyonders are dedicated to the desire for change.

Having become aware of the universe containing the Earth and of the Earth itself, the Beyonders intend to study the process of evolution (a form of change) on that planet. Therefore, the Beyonders contact an extradimensional race of the Earth dimension known as the Nuwali through an unusual artifact. Having made no notable accomplishments of their own, the Nuwali are said to be distinguished soley for their ability to follow orders. The Beyonders offered to pay the Newali gold (which the Nuwali, like Earth people, consider highly valuable) if they would create a game preserve on Earth stocked with fauna and flora different periods in Earth's history, ranging from Triassic (the first part of the Mesozic Era, the so-called Age of Dinosaurs) into the then present. Hence the Nuwali created the Savage Land, a tropical area circled by volcanoes within Antarctica. In the Savage Land, dinosaurs and other life forms from the entire span of the Mesozoic Era have co-existed with the various life forms that evolved in the later Cenozoic Era, the Age of Mammals, and even with human beings, right into the present day. For tes of thousands of years, the Nuwali stacked the Savage land with fauna and flora and watched over it

At some part, the Nuwali's contact with the Beyonder came to an end. The Beyonders continues to study evolution as demonstrated by the living beings of the Savage Land.

Thousands of years after the Nuwali's relationship with Beyonds ended, the Beyonders used the knowledge of evolution they had gained to create the alien race called the Fortisquians. The Beyonders used the Fortisquians to observe the progress of sentient races on many worlds in the Earth dimension. At regular intervals each world under observation would be studied by a Fortisquian observer who approached the planet in a starship camouflaged as a comet. Having been created by the Beyonders, the Fortisquians' minds are somewhat alien to this cosmos. Hence, only exceptional Fortisquians can avoid going insane when surrounder by large numbers of non-Fortisquian beings. Through the Fortisquians's observations, the Beyonders learned about interactions within societies within sentient being in this universe. The Beyonders learned that all sentient beings are driven by desire to possess what they do not have.

Favorably disposed toward this universe, the Beyonders gave its sentient beings the opportunity to control and advance their own development. The Beyonders provided this opportunity by making possible the creation of the Cosmic Cube. A Cosmic Cube is a cube-shaped matrix that holds vast energies that are responsive to the wills of sentient beings. A sentient being can use a Cosmic Cube to manifest his thoughts as reality, and thus to accomplish virtually anything he or she desires. Sentient beings can create a Cosmic Cube by generating a particular king of force field which opens a rift into another dimension. A force will slip through the rift which can be collected within a matrix, which the force then shapes into a perfect cube. This force provides the power of the Cosmic Cube that has thus been created. Eventually, a Cosmic Cube will evolve and develop its own sentience, which is influenced by the minds of the sentient beings which have wielded it. A Cosmic Cube created by the alien race of the Skrulls eventually evolved into the being called the Shaper of Worlds. Another Cosmic Cube, created on Earth by the scientists of the Advanced Idea Mechanics (A.I.M.) had evolved into the still-mutating entity called Kubik.

A nuclear accident triggered by laboratory worker Owen Reece had two effects. It opened a rift into the dimension from which the energy that powers Cosmic Cubes comes. But there was no matrix waiting to collect the force that now could enter the Earth dimension through this rift. Some of this force transformed Reece into the superhuman Molecule Man, who was increasingly compelled by the nature of the force to curb the use of his own newfound superhuman power. The rest of the released energy began developing its own sentience and started to observe Earth and its dimension. It is this sentient force that eventually named itself the Beyonder, after its unconscious awareness of its true creatures.

The Beyonders later employed an alien named Sphinxor and other aliens called the Prime Movers to take possession of Counter-Earth, a relatively miniature duplicate of the Earth, complete with its inhabitants that had been created by the High Evolutionary, an Earthman who had evolved himself into a superhuman being. Learning of the Beyonders from Sphinxor, the High Evolutionary accepted to their taking possession of Counter-Earth and accompanied Sphinxor on his mission to bring it to them. Exactly what happened there after is unclear. Counter-Earth was apparently somehow displayed in the Beyonders' equivalent of museum, and the High Evolutionary went temporarily insane. Apparently the High Evolutionary visited the Beyonders' own dimension if he was in their "museum." Possibly his insanity was the result of an inability to comprehend the Beyonders' dimension.

The entity that was released by Reece's accident and called itself the Beyonder eventually entered Earth's dimension and arranged a "secret war" between champions from Earth and their criminal adversaries as a means of studying the nature of desire. Later, the Beyonder went to Earth himself, where he assumed human form, and became a menace seeking to destroy the planet. Seemingly killed by the Molecule Man, the Beyonder instead journeyed as pure energy into another dimension, where he created his own universe.

In Antarctica at the site of the Savage Land, members of the Fantastic Four discovered a Nuwali inscription of the word "Beyonder." In the course of their investigation, three members of the Fantastic Four, joined by their adversary, Dr. Doom, traveled to the universe created by the Beyonder. The Molecule Man, the Shaper of Worlds, and Kubik also traveled there. The Shaper explained to the Earth people and the Beyonder about the true Beyonders' involvement with the Earth dimension. The so-called Beyonder learned that he was actually not the omnipotent being he believe himself to be, but an immature Cosmic Cube that had not been contained within a proper matrix. The Beyonder merged with the Molecule Man in order to become a true Cosmic Cube, and the universe created by the Beyonder ceased to exist. That Cosmic Cube's present whereabouts is unknown.

Doctor Mid-Nite shows that punk how real men do it

Originally posted by Utrigita
The Beyonders are a race of immensely powerful entities who exist in a dimension other than of Earth. No one from antwhere within Earth's dimension has ever seen one or more of the Beyonders, and apparently no one ever will. The Beyonders are so different in nature from the known beings of Earth's dimension that it is beyond the scope of human comprehension to understand what kind of entities the Beyonders are. It is known that the Beyonders are not "beings" in the sense that that term is used to describe the known living beings in the Earth dimension. The Beyonders apparently do not experience time as a chronological progression, as the known living beings of Earth's dimension do. The limit of the Beyonders' power are unknown. However, teir nature is so alien that they are unable to leave their own dimension. Hence, in their dealings with the Earth dimension, they must operate through agents. It is known that the Beyonders are dedicated to the desire for change.

Having become aware of the universe containing the Earth and of the Earth itself, the Beyonders intend to study the process of evolution (a form of change) on that planet. Therefore, the Beyonders contact an extradimensional race of the Earth dimension known as the Nuwali through an unusual artifact. Having made no notable accomplishments of their own, the Nuwali are said to be distinguished soley for their ability to follow orders. The Beyonders offered to pay the Newali gold (which the Nuwali, like Earth people, consider highly valuable) if they would create a game preserve on Earth stocked with fauna and flora different periods in Earth's history, ranging from Triassic (the first part of the Mesozic Era, the so-called Age of Dinosaurs) into the then present. Hence the Nuwali created the Savage Land, a tropical area circled by volcanoes within Antarctica. In the Savage Land, dinosaurs and other life forms from the entire span of the Mesozoic Era have co-existed with the various life forms that evolved in the later Cenozoic Era, the Age of Mammals, and even with human beings, right into the present day. For tes of thousands of years, the Nuwali stacked the Savage land with fauna and flora and watched over it

At some part, the Nuwali's contact with the Beyonder came to an end. The Beyonders continues to study evolution as demonstrated by the living beings of the Savage Land.

Thousands of years after the Nuwali's relationship with Beyonds ended, the Beyonders used the knowledge of evolution they had gained to create the alien race called the Fortisquians. The Beyonders used the Fortisquians to observe the progress of sentient races on many worlds in the Earth dimension. At regular intervals each world under observation would be studied by a Fortisquian observer who approached the planet in a starship camouflaged as a comet. Having been created by the Beyonders, the Fortisquians' minds are somewhat alien to this cosmos. Hence, only exceptional Fortisquians can avoid going insane when surrounder by large numbers of non-Fortisquian beings. Through the Fortisquians's observations, the Beyonders learned about interactions within societies within sentient being in this universe. The Beyonders learned that all sentient beings are driven by desire to possess what they do not have.

Favorably disposed toward this universe, the Beyonders gave its sentient beings the opportunity to control and advance their own development. The Beyonders provided this opportunity by making possible the creation of the Cosmic Cube. A Cosmic Cube is a cube-shaped matrix that holds vast energies that are responsive to the wills of sentient beings. A sentient being can use a Cosmic Cube to manifest his thoughts as reality, and thus to accomplish virtually anything he or she desires. Sentient beings can create a Cosmic Cube by generating a particular king of force field which opens a rift into another dimension. A force will slip through the rift which can be collected within a matrix, which the force then shapes into a perfect cube. This force provides the power of the Cosmic Cube that has thus been created. Eventually, a Cosmic Cube will evolve and develop its own sentience, which is influenced by the minds of the sentient beings which have wielded it. A Cosmic Cube created by the alien race of the Skrulls eventually evolved into the being called the Shaper of Worlds. Another Cosmic Cube, created on Earth by the scientists of the Advanced Idea Mechanics (A.I.M.) had evolved into the still-mutating entity called Kubik.

A nuclear accident triggered by laboratory worker Owen Reece had two effects. It opened a rift into the dimension from which the energy that powers Cosmic Cubes comes. But there was no matrix waiting to collect the force that now could enter the Earth dimension through this rift. Some of this force transformed Reece into the superhuman Molecule Man, who was increasingly compelled by the nature of the force to curb the use of his own newfound superhuman power. The rest of the released energy began developing its own sentience and started to observe Earth and its dimension. It is this sentient force that eventually named itself the Beyonder, after its unconscious awareness of its true creatures.

The Beyonders later employed an alien named Sphinxor and other aliens called the Prime Movers to take possession of Counter-Earth, a relatively miniature duplicate of the Earth, complete with its inhabitants that had been created by the High Evolutionary, an Earthman who had evolved himself into a superhuman being. Learning of the Beyonders from Sphinxor, the High Evolutionary accepted to their taking possession of Counter-Earth and accompanied Sphinxor on his mission to bring it to them. Exactly what happened there after is unclear. Counter-Earth was apparently somehow displayed in the Beyonders' equivalent of museum, and the High Evolutionary went temporarily insane. Apparently the High Evolutionary visited the Beyonders' own dimension if he was in their "museum." Possibly his insanity was the result of an inability to comprehend the Beyonders' dimension.

The entity that was released by Reece's accident and called itself the Beyonder eventually entered Earth's dimension and arranged a "secret war" between champions from Earth and their criminal adversaries as a means of studying the nature of desire. Later, the Beyonder went to Earth himself, where he assumed human form, and became a menace seeking to destroy the planet. Seemingly killed by the Molecule Man, the Beyonder instead journeyed as pure energy into another dimension, where he created his own universe.

In Antarctica at the site of the Savage Land, members of the Fantastic Four discovered a Nuwali inscription of the word "Beyonder." In the course of their investigation, three members of the Fantastic Four, joined by their adversary, Dr. Doom, traveled to the universe created by the Beyonder. The Molecule Man, the Shaper of Worlds, and Kubik also traveled there. The Shaper explained to the Earth people and the Beyonder about the true Beyonders' involvement with the Earth dimension. The so-called Beyonder learned that he was actually not the omnipotent being he believe himself to be, but an immature Cosmic Cube that had not been contained within a proper matrix. The Beyonder merged with the Molecule Man in order to become a true Cosmic Cube, and the universe created by the Beyonder ceased to exist. That Cosmic Cube's present whereabouts is unknown.

and who could have let the true beyonders in?

He get's to Hulk (Onslaught version)

Originally posted by guy222
and who could have let the true beyonders in?

TOAA

(i Think variant sources point in the direction of a being vastly more powerful then themselves and this is powerful

Well, we know that there are Eternity's, and Multi-Eternity's...

And that the brothers are the sum of to megaverses, so they're kinof Mega-Eternity's.

TOAA is the Omni-Eternity. He is everything in the omniverse, and is their sum, and also the sum of the writers. TOAA is pretty much Martvel itself, both the company and the MU.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, we know that there are Eternity's, and Multi-Eternity's...

And that the brothers are the sum of to megaverses, so they're kinof Mega-Eternity's.

TOAA is the Omni-Eternity. He is everything in the omniverse, and is their sum, and also the sum of the writers. TOAA is pretty much Martvel itself, both the company and the MU.

More kind of omni-upergod with unlimited power, if i remember correctly TOAA is the only one to posesse full omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience.

Originally posted by guy222
another thing, beyonder had all that power and puma was the one who could have killed him respect puma

That's not exactly accurate.



The Beyonder wanted to return to his Natural State of Un-Being, (the Beyond Realm) in order to do this, he had to kill his mortal frame, only he couldn't do it himself or willingly, he needed an outside force to do it.

So he gave Puma a destiny, in which Puma would be able to kill him, at the right moment when the Universe's Cosmic Axis aligned perfectly, giving Puma ALL the powers of the Universe completely.
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2835/p2kw6.th.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/1184/pjo0.th.jpg



Peter Parker says, "Muramoto clued me into this SUICIDE PACT you've got going with Puma"
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8374/p3sa0.th.jpg



Here's the club scene:

As you can see, Beyonder set this whole thing up, and he's in control the whole way:

Beyonder says, "I can STOP this in a Flash I can be on the other side of the Universe, can I live with losing? ... Can I die for the sake of winning"
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2766/p4bm2.th.jpg



Beyonder WANTS Puma to slay him...
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6361/p5td8.th.jpg


Here Puma becomes ONE with the Universe:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8949/p6jf1.th.jpg



Spiderman interferes for a bit, gets smacked around by Puma, and realizes this is what Beyonder wants, so he leaves them alone figuring they're both nuts.

By the time Puma strikes the Beyonder, his moment of Universal harmony fades, and nothing happens.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/438/p7ro9.th.jpg



Beyonder set that whole thing up.


Let's NOT respect Puma according to this.

Xplosive makes a good point. I really like the classic Beyonder too. He was one of my fav. series the two secret wars. However he had his limits and understanding was one of them. Experience was another.
We must presume that TOAA is above any totality like the Beyonder was described as being.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Xplosive makes a good point. I really like the classic Beyonder too. He was one of my fav. series the two secret wars. However he had his limits and understanding was one of them. Experience was another.
We must presume that TOAA is above any totality like the Beyonder was described as being.
Mr. Master just showed that Beyonder wanted to be an abstract, so for that he used Puma, as an abstract Beyonder wouldent have any limits, such as understanding, the explenation for that is the old Beyond-realm.

actually i misrepresented myself and the Beyonder. it wasn't that he wasn't all knowing and all powerful it was that he could have and do anything he wanted and he was really just experienceing his abilities for himself.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mr. Master just showed that Beyonder wanted to be an abstract, so for that he used Puma, as an abstract Beyonder wouldent have any limits, such as understanding, the explenation for that is the old Beyond-realm.
Wanted to be an abstract?

Mr. Master never showe danything of the sort.

i assume that we from this can agree that TOAA is above the beyonder???

Originally posted by Utrigita
i assume that we from this can agree that TOAA is above the beyonder???

yes

Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

isn't the one above all andy schmidt

i would say jack kirby

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Has anyone ever seen what The One Above All looks like?

Mr Fantastic and the Fantastic Four




http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe

Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

Originally posted by Mordum
Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

It does matter, and YEs we do know he was TOO SCARED.


Originally posted by Mr Master
Really?

What do you think the Living Tribunal's function is?

To safeguard the Multiversal Balance
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7840/ltny5.th.jpg


Beyonder ERASED Death from the Multiverse:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8712/d1ve2.th.jpg

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What do you think this would lead to?


A Multiversal Imbalance! (ALL the reason in the Multiverse for LT to ACT)

Originally posted by Mordum
Absorbing Lt is greater than what beyonder ever did. IT doesnt matter if LT was too scarred to fight him we dont really know that. The fact is that in the whole secret wars arc beyonder never once fought or touched the LT. He wa alive through the whole thing.

so ur saying tribunal is a coward

he (LT) could always take the cheap way out, and claim (if hypotetically speaking he was to be blamed for not coming forward and fighting the beyonder) that he knew the outcome of the whole story, a somewhat logical thing considering his omniscience.

In other words, the LT (possibly) knew that the Beyonder was going to recreate Death (among other things) and that's why he didn't step in.

Of course, it's just an opinion, and possibly it's not even true

Originally posted by guy222
so ur saying tribunal is a coward
Towards the Beyonder, most definatly.

Bump

wut if, the LT's hand flies out of the comic page and punches Stan Lee in the face?

that wont happen since stan lee would say your just a pen and ink and color peace of poop LT i own you now go make me dinner or ill draw you with womens clothing

Are you telling me that this man ... Who was saved by Dare Devil ... ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXq5Gljj0HU

Bumpity Bump

Why is this bumped? It was answered in the second post.

Originally posted by Q99
Why is this bumped? It was answered in the second post.

This is a comic book foum...people can have any opinion

Everything you see in MU, is only an expansion of TOAA power. All resides within him (or better, in his pencil ).

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
This is a comic book foum...people can have any opinion It's my opinion that light doesn't make things visible, and its my opinion that gravity doesn't exist. It's my opinion that people don't actually need to breath or have blood in their body.

Since fact negates all of those "opinions" It's doubtful if you can really have an opinion on something that's objective rather than subjective.

Since it's unlikely for a fictional characterr to actually leave the pages of a comic book, and the writer can literally make the character do whatever they want, how is a fictional character to present a credible threat to its writer?

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's my opinion that light doesn't make things visible, and its my opinion that gravity doesn't exist. It's my opinion that people don't actually need to breath or have blood in their body.

Since fact negates all of those "opinions" It's doubtful if you can really have an opinion on something that's objective rather than subjective.

Since it's unlikely for a fictional characterr to actually leave the pages of a comic book, and the writer can literally make the character do whatever they want, how is a fictional character to present a credible threat to its writer?


You can have an opinion but that doesn't necessarily make you right...isn't that the whole point of debating in this forum?

Why does it this even matter?

He takes a bag full of pencils and starts erasing

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why does it this even matter?

He takes a bag full of pencils and starts erasing


So I guess someone besides god can defeat mxy

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
So I guess someone besides god can defeat mxy TOAA is god

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Why does it this even matter?

He takes a bag full of pencils and starts erasing

^What did that have to do with anything? Its true.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
TOAA is god


No, that has not been definitivly proven

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
No, that has not been definitivly proven TOAA is the embodiment of the writer/artist. He is still god and will stomp anyone in comics.

This thread is lame... TOAA beats everybody with a mere gesture