Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.

Was religion just created by some people to make money off of the church, bringing in people like sheep, making them fear a higher power?

I think it is.

Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
Was religion just created by some people to make money off of the church, bringing in people like sheep, making them fear a higher power?

I think it is.

More less, religions became violent, during the advent of patriarch monotheism.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
More less, religions became violent, during the advent of patriarch monotheism. And recently, people in the Middle East have been doing violent things and saying "God told me to do it."

There's no way The Christian relegion is real if that's true.

*edit*

Originally posted by TheKingofKINGS!
And recently, people in the Middle East have been doing violent things and saying "God told me to do it."

There's no way The Christian relegion is real if that's true.
Christianity as we know it is just a bunch of pagan elements merged together by the constantine to establish a religion that would allow the citizens of the empire to live in peace, and come under his rule.

Judaism, originally was a form of mysticism, called the kabbalah.

Religion = Human need to feel a purpose

So yeah....religion is fake.

religion is great for dividing humanity and keeping them in fear of a higher power. instead of everyone seeing everything as one, we have been manipulated in every aspects of our life. i hope one day we will grow up

I disagree with you all, Religion is indeed created by man, it is also created for man, the question is WHY?

Clearly for religion to be so strong a force it means that we all must feel there is some sort of higher power, or a being beyond our capabilities...this doesn't mean any particular religion is correct or even close to God, but that is why people have Faith.

I believe in God, I don't know why but I assure you all that it's a helpful thing which does infact lend you strength, now perhaps I'm just finding strength inside myself rather than getting it from God, I can't be sure, but I am sure of one thing, real or un-real it is a very handy concept indeed.


(PS the Christian religion is the basis for ALL the wests moral system really...)

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav


and you call people crazy for believing in reptillians. even tho icke and others provides lots of evidence for there existence. wheres the evidence of gods existence? or are you just a crazy religious nut?

That was deep, Deano, good accusation. It is easier for man to believe in religion because 1) it is a conscious choice to follow it and 2) thousands of others believe along with him. You're also targeting GMG's one line and not responding to his argument in general. Nice. And if you mean Reptilians as in 'Lizard People,' you're a crazy reptilian nut.

Anyways, a conspiracy would mean that religion was made for the purpose of lynching someone or getting more gold than the other guys or whatever. Religion is so people can feel like they have a goal that doesn't include 'I'm going to be an astronaut!' or 'I'm going to make billions when I'm 65!'

Originally posted by General Zink
Anyways, a conspiracy would mean that religion was made for the purpose of lynching someone or getting more gold than the other guys or whatever. Religion is so people can feel like they have a goal that doesn't include 'I'm going to be an astronaut!' or 'I'm going to make billions when I'm 65!'

Exactly, religon can be be a rock or a cruch or whatever you need it to be, but ultimatly it's just a way to express your own personal faith...

I think its important to seperate false religion and TRUE religion.

I don't believe any religion is actually false, religion is just a vessel for people faith...however it is practiced, ultimately we all believe in the same being...

The religion may not be false, but the believers participate in false actions and distorted beliefs.

It took a few years.......but I finally agree 100% with one of Deano's posts.

What he says is jsut silly, if it wasn't religion to divide people it would be skin colour or origin of birth or culture...religion is jsut an excuse, people will always be at war untill there is only one people.

yeah......it's silly.......religion has nothing to do with dividing people or causing war...........

I'm sure Muslims would be declaring Jihaad right now against people just because they are a different color, right? I can just see some guy flying a plane into a building, killing a few thousand people just because they are white.......and black....and brown....and every other color on earth inside the building.

I could, look at the American Civil War.

Holocaust, had nothing to do with the jewish religion, it was all about the Jewish Race,

it was about neither race nor religion. it was about hitler's occult belief that the aryan race was decended from an ancient civilization, the first civilization that flourished while all others were still hiding in caves. Hitler's actions were not to destroy another race but to purify his own...returning the aryan race to the pure race which first civilized the planet....which meant he had to prevent the co-mingling of his race with others.

The holocaust had nothing to do with the jewish race or religion. It was all about Hitler and his ideas of making the aryan race pure again. You could have substituted any other race (negro, middle-eastern, native american, asian, etc.) into the german population and the outcome would have been the same.

So, he discriminated against the Jews not because of their race...but because their race wasn't the Areyn race? Do you understand what you said? It was all about race, if the Jews where areyn then he wouldn't have killed them...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
What he says is jsut silly, if it wasn't religion to divide people it would be skin colour or origin of birth or culture...religion is jsut an excuse, people will always be at war untill there is only one people.

not its true.live with it

actually he got rid of the jews in attempt to re-create the mighty aryan race of his occult belief system. I believe a belief system is sometimes called a religion, is it not?

Originally posted by Deano
not its true.live with it

Good comeback. 'My word is law.' I'll use it when I don't have any snappy comebacks.

Religion is just a Red Herring for discrimination. Like Communism. Like being black. If it wasn't Religion, it would be something else.

that's rather vague. by something else, I assume you mean something else of equal or greater magnitude? Religions encompass all races....as do they political parties.....so how could any of these much smaller pieces of a whole create as much conflict as the whole itself?

If you did not mean of greater or equal magnitude, I fail to see how it could be referred to as a red herring.......as Religion would cause more war and unrest than any of the smaller issues you mentioned. There may still be fighting and war........but less is still an improvement.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
actually he got rid of the jews in attempt to re-create the mighty aryan race of his occult belief system. I believe a belief system is sometimes called a religion, is it not?

National Socialism wasn't a religion, it was a political ideal.

who's talking about national socialism? I'm talking about Hitler, Himler, Hess, etc. occult belief system.......that the aryan race is decended from an ancient technological civilization lost to antiquity.....the very first civilization on earth while all other races were still hunter/gatherers. It was their belief that the aryan race was meant to purify itself and return to that greatness, controlling all of civilization. This ofcourse is what led to the holocaust in attempt to purify the race to return it to the greatness of their occult beliefs.

why are you changing the subject?

Himmler...he was obsessed with the occult, not Hitler, infact Hitler was very critical of Himmler's research into the occult.

sorry. There are hours upon hours of video archive of Hitler giving speeches, declaring his occult beliefs in the ancient aryan civilization lost to antiquity aswell as ceremonies he introduced to celebrate them.

you only have to visit the castle in Wewelsburg to reaslise the Occult connections.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
sorry. There are hours upon hours of video archive of Hitler giving speeches, declaring his occult beliefs in the ancient aryan civilization lost to antiquity aswell as ceremonies he introduced to celebrate them.

I'm going to say this again, HITLER WAS VERY CRITICAL OF HIMMLER'S RESEARCH INTO THE OCCULT!
In terms of propaganda it is an excellent opportunity, as stated by Goebbels, but Hitler never believed in the Atlantas Theory that was put forward by Himmler...and thats just the way it is...Hitler was very much a naturist who believed in survival of the fittest and the Darwinian world...

Religion isn't a conspiracy, it's just used unjustly.

Exactly.

Religion is simply multiple people who all believe in a similar thing. There's nothing wrong with that. However, some people see religion as a way for them to make profit, or get something they want, as opposed to worshipping something in harmony with other people. So they twist it to there own means.

Religion can be related to a gun, in a sense.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

If you believe that religion is a conspiracy then you have been uninformed of its history just read the old testament of the bible and then tell me that it was started as a conspiracy. I Don't think so and if you think you can I would love to here your arguments

also its not similar things that people believe in there are more difrinces then you might think If needed I can list many of them for you

Originally posted by gpchristloves
If you believe that religion is a conspiracy then you have been uninformed of its history just read the old testament of the bible and then tell me that it was started as a conspiracy. I Don't think so and if you think you can I would love to here your arguments It's very easy for someone to write a fictional book. I have read the bible, all 52 books (the Lutheran Bible...) and while I myself am a Christian, and believe in God and what not, I don't doubt the possibility that religion is a conspiracy. Especially with the Catholics. They say things like "If you masturbate, you'll go to hell" when the bible clearly states otherwise. That in itself is a conspiracy.Originally posted by gpchristloves
also its not similar things that people believe in there are more difrinces then you might think If needed I can list many of them for you Yes, it is all similar. While there are many different "bibles" and "gods" basically everyone believes there is only one god. One you may think of that doesn't believe in one god is the Buddhists. But technique each "god" is a face of the "Almighty ruler." Meaning they're all the same god. While they each have their differences, they all contain the same basic principle.

Yes, thats true. As I said earlier, its people that twist religion to there own means. And I think Catholism (sp) is a victim of that.

ok, i'm going to be blunt here, and probably upset some people, so if your easily offended by anti-relgion don't be thick and read it, but it kinda need to be said:
It my opinion all religions are al load of crap, reason being its just a form of control dating back thousands of years, its to get people to be good little citizens, not saying thats thats wrong but religions were just send out as a way of controling those who believe.
As a result millions have died for their religion, they think absurd things (to my mind) and its just another way of making people do crazy things.
If tommrow all religions were abolished, its might not be a bad thing.

agreed

but it will only be abolished when people wake up

Originally posted by Kaled
ok, i'm going to be blunt here, and probably upset some people, so if your easily offended by anti-relgion don't be thick and read it, but it kinda need to be said:
It my opinion all religions are al load of crap, reason being its just a form of control dating back thousands of years, its to get people to be good little citizens, not saying thats thats wrong but religions were just send out as a way of controling those who believe.
As a result millions have died for their religion, they think absurd things (to my mind) and its just another way of making people do crazy things.
If tommrow all religions were abolished, its might not be a bad thing. Right on Kaled. When I first met you, I saw you as some failed at life FPSK, but after getting know you, and seeing this post, I now see that your head is screwed on properly, and are most likely a respectable human.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Right on Kaled. When I first met you, I saw you as some failed at life FPSK, but after getting know you, and seeing this post, I now see that your head is screwed on properly, and are most likely a respectable human.

hahah umm, ok thank you (?)

Originally posted by lord xyz
Right on Kaled. When I first met you, I saw you as some failed at life FPSK, but after getting know you, and seeing this post, I now see that your head is screwed on properly, and are most likely a respectable human.

So you're saying that because he may agree with your opinion?

I have no problem with that, just asking.