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Anyone that read X-men just saw the Black King drop Colossus like a doll.
That's why i think Guido could do the same to Colossus or the Thing.
What do you fig. Thing can do against the Black King?

The name isn't familiar to me, but is that the guy from Hellfire Club? Sorry that I don't know the name, but I haven't read any Hellfire Club material in English...

Shaw should take this.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Anyone that read X-men just saw the Black King drop Colossus like a doll.


Yup I loved it when Shaw beat Colossus. Shaw for the win here as well

Did you see the metal drop of blood run out of Colossus's nose before he lost consciousness standing up.

I did indeed. I really don't like Colossus so it made me happy

I like Colossus but he's never known better when it comes to going against guys that can beat him. He's fought Juggernaut like he stood a chance and what not.
The next time he faces an opponent he might remember that they hit back.

Colossus is kinda tough but going up against Shaw is a bit too much. His strength can reach unknown levels as can his durability. Shaw was shrugging off Colossus' blows like they were nothing in that last fight.

Hmm, good fight

No offense to Colossus, but Ben has shown to fight smarter than Pitor.

Overall though, unless Ben has prep, he loses the majority here.

No Prep, Shaw wins 8-9/10

With Prep, Shaw 6/10

Yea Shaw would give Thing the same treatment he gave Colossus.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm, good fight

No offense to Colossus, but Ben has shown to fight smarter than Pitor.

Overall though, unless Ben has prep, he loses the majority here.

No Prep, Shaw wins 8-9/10

With Prep, Shaw 6/10
What exactly is Ben going to do with prep?

Please notice I said Ben and not Reed.

Shaw has this in the bag.

Originally posted by Validus
What exactly is Ben going to do with prep?

Please notice I said Ben and not Reed.

Ben isnt stupid

He'll just go and grab one of Reed's toys and blast Shaw

If Colossus' punches didn't effect Shaw I'm pretty sure Bens won't either. Shaw is just a tough f*cker.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If Colossus' punches didn't effect Shaw I'm pretty sure Bens won't either. Shaw is just a tough f*cker.

Would a sonic clap work

Originally posted by Grimm22
Would a sonic clap work I don't know. Most likely.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Hmm, good fight

No offense to Colossus, but Ben has shown to fight smarter than Pitor.

Overall though, unless Ben has prep, he loses the majority here.

No Prep, Shaw wins 8-9/10

With Prep, Shaw 6/10

Why do you always include prep in your statement when you know it's a lost cause for one of the FF?

Originally posted by batdude123
Why do you always include prep in your statement when you know it's a lost cause for one of the FF?
Thanks for saying that. I've been laying on my arrogant jerk shtick a bit heavy lately so I decided to keep that to myself.

Originally posted by batdude123
Why do you always include prep in your statement when you know it's a lost cause for one of the FF?

AND YOUR QUESTIONS ARE AIDING TERRORISTS!

You bear tamer you!

Originally posted by Validus
Thanks for saying that. I've been laying on my arrogant jerk shtick a bit heavy lately so I decided to keep that to myself.

Something we agree on!!!

Originally posted by Grimm22
AND YOUR QUESTIONS ARE AIDING TERRORISTS!

You bear tamer you!

Sorry, but you know it's true. baka

Originally posted by batdude123
Why do you always include prep in your statement when you know it's a lost cause for one of the FF?

or rather because Ben could just get a jet and bomb the crap out of Shaw

No, you do it because you realize that's the only way Ben could win, EVEN THOUGH there was no prep specified by the thread master.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, you do it because you realize that's the only way Ben could win, EVEN THOUGH there was no prep specified by the thread master.

You = Mustache

Fine

But, A thunder clap should still take him down

Or not. it's never been done to Shaw, so you can't say for sure whether it would, or wouldn't.

Euh with prep shaw will win more time's than without prep, I mean with prep Shaw could build up his strenght before fighting the thing.

Iff Shaw would beat a wall for a couple of minute's hours he could build up more strenght than thing.

So to say Thing has a better change with prep, doesn't seem likely.

Colossus should have beaten Shaw. He nearly did. Shaw was broken and bleeding. Colossus stupidly let Shaw suckerpunch him.

Thing won't be that stupid...

Euh do they know each other?
the thing and Shaw?
Iff they don't than why won't thing fall for the same trick?
It's not like shaw looks like a powerhouse, thing does look like a powerhouse.
So it would be logical ben's first move would be to out muscle the guy, by punching him.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Euh do they know each other?
the thing and Shaw?
Iff they don't than why won't thing fall for the same trick?
It's not like shaw looks like a powerhouse, thing does look like a powerhouse.
So it would be logical ben's first move would be to out muscle the guy, by punching him.

Sebastian Shaw is a notorious terrorist of the Hellfire Club responsible for numerous atrocities. Plus he and the FF4 have crossed paths more than once.

Ben would already know what Shaw is capable of and do the smart thing: suffocate him.

Strangely enough (and I don't say it often) I'm going to say Thing (if he doesn't fight retarded). He can just pick Shaw up and throw him away, i.e. BFR.

so shaw knows who the thing is than and can build his strenght by hitting the ground or the wall or anything around him to get stronger than thing.

Shaw wins.

Originally posted by Brutacus
so shaw knows who the thing is than and can build his strenght by hitting the ground or the wall or anything around him to get stronger than thing.

Shaw wins.

Um. No. That's not how his power works. Something has to hit HIM with applied kinetic force.

How is hitting a wall gonna make him stronger than the Thing?

He's outskilled as well....

Actually he can hit things to build kinetic energy, but it wouldn't be enough.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Actually he can hit things to build kinetic energy, but it wouldn't be enough.

Ah. Well, I was right on one end. He's have to hit a wall for about a thousand years before he reaches Thing's strength level...

I'm pretty sure there was somewhere stated that he could build up his strenght by hitting a wall, and he did it every time he woke up.

He does it to give himself enough energy to get in to a fight.

Originally posted by Brutacus
I'm pretty sure there was somewhere stated that he could build up his strenght by hitting a wall, and he did it every time he woke up.

He does it to give himself enough energy to get in to a fight.

Not against the Thing....

THINK. You're a 40 something year old man and you're reasonably built.

You punch a wall and absorb the kinetic energy of punching that said wall.

How much kinetic energy could you possibly absorb? Not much. In fact, very little. Not nearly the kinetic energy of bullet fired from 9mm.

He would have to hit that wall nonstop for centuries to reach Thing's strength level...

Yeah punching a wall isnt going to give him nearly enougth energy to take down Ben

The only reason he KO'ed Pitor was because of the masive beating he was gettting.