Originally posted by Tassadar
Did you read the Red Son Superman comic? Not only did he pwn Hal, he pwned a legion of GLs. Are you telling me Hal alone is better than 100+ other GLs and himself? He pwned Doomsday too, as well as a bunch of other monsters. Red Son Superman wasnt just Superman without moral restraint, he was stronger, and smarter, and more skilled than current Supes.
Saying that, if he gets past WW(not likely), he makes it to Surfer. He would beat DS, and Thanos. He might beat RKT.
Superman: Red Son?? Written by Millar??
Yeah i read it.
Hal has beaten better than Superman.
Why shouldn't i see him as capable of beating this version?
And don't bring me a nameless gl argument.
Nameless GL's are the DC cosmic equivalent of Handninjas. Cannon fodder to upstock fast.
See Superboy Prime and DD.
And its no surprise that Superman beat DD.
If you read DOS, you'd realize that had he cut loose from the beginning, he wouldn't have died.
He only took off the caps, when it was clear that he might die and DD would rampage on.
He killed someone he was capable of killing all along. Big deal.
And why would he beat DS?? Or Thanos??
Darkseid has so many powers its insane that DC let him lose to Superman twice!
He could destroy Superman without even thinking of the OE.
I know i give Darky alot of flack on this board, but he really is a skyfather beyond others, barring (imo) Odin.
Superman beating him is not happening in a well written book, but RKT is debateable.
But he's not getting past anybody on that list that remembers they have powers.
And i maintain, that Red Son was simply Superman raised without fear of himself and his potential.
No additional power was there.
Simply self awareness and capability.
Ie, a communist pov, where he's the best he is for his country, not his planet.