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the British Empire went from overt control of the US to covert. The illuminati therefore still have the power.

Originally posted by Deano
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the British Empire went from overt control of the US to covert. The illuminati therefore still have the power.

Nothing new, The United States corparation.

I would think the U.S. has the upper hand in any British/U.S. relations. (Lizard people's influences aside).

Well, in the case of the Illuminati...what is obvious is wrong...either that or D is a real patriot...

its nothin to do with being a patriot. the forces that run the world operate mainly in britain.

I love you Kharmadog..........that was just beautiful.



If Britain is actually in control, why does Blair jump every time Bush snaps his fingers? Looks like it'd be the other way around.........

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I love you Kharmadog..........that was just beautiful.



If Britain is actually in control, why does Blair jump every time Bush snaps his fingers? Looks like it'd be the other way around.........

blair doesnt have control does he

the people who operate behind the scenes do. and these people control blair and bush.

i think this needs to be discussed more.

we know bush and his cronies were on there knees at buckingham palace recieving honours. what are they doing goinf on there knees to these people who were enemys not so long ago? well its because they are going home saying 'pat me on the back for doing such a fine job, america is sinking a little bit further into the abyss, wheres my medal?''

think about it

Originally posted by Deano
i think this needs to be discussed more.

we know bush and his cronies were on there knees at buckingham palace recieving honours. what are they doing goinf on there knees to these people who were enemys not so long ago? well its because they are going home saying 'pat me on the back for doing such a fine job, america is sinking a little bit further into the abyss, wheres my medal?''

think about it

You are a spaz. Think about it.


Originally posted by KharmaDog
I would think the U.S. has the upper hand in any British/U.S. relations. (Lizard people's influences aside).

Damn... that was actually quite funny. Good times.

Yeah, nice one Kharma.

The US says "Jump." Britain says "How high?"

i am teh stupidz coz i dontz eleibve in teh lizrfdz peoplz i amz such a blnd sheepz lolzzololozzolzozlzol.

Deano no one cares, most people would rather get on with their lives and really don't give a fuk about all this crap. Ok so we are tagged, lizards do run the world and the world unites under one world government, so what? One world government would mean less wars, greater help for countrys which need it and the possibility to take out all rouge countries who would threaten us with war, sounds good to me.

your stupid for ignoring the obvious.

see this is why you are ridiculous. whenever you cant handle something you resort to childish comments about lizards. world government would be good if it was for good intentions...its not.

oh and you say less wars? you mean the wars that were and still are being deliberatly created by this elite to JUSTIFY A WORLD GOVERNMENT with every human being under complete control?

HAHAHA.

they create monsters to use them agaisnt us. e.g al quaida. its provable. its fact. they give saddam hussain weapons, so later on they have an excuse to invade him. wake up man.

Originally posted by Deano
your stupid for ignoring the obvious.

see this is why you are ridiculous. whenever you cant handle something you resort to childish comments about lizards. world government would be good if it was for good intentions...its not.

oh and you say less wars? you mean the wars that were and still are being deliberatly created by this elite to JUSTIFY A WORLD GOVERNMENT with every human being under complete control?

HAHAHA.

they create monsters to use them agaisnt us. e.g al quaida. its provable. its fact. they give saddam hussain weapons, so later on they have an excuse to invade him. wake up man. What's with this "wake up man." thing? Do conspiracy nuts like to say it? Do they think it will make them seem more ligitimate?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'd like to see that person's "research".

Why don't you just research the sources that were mentioned in said article, they may not be alot but, it's a start

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Why don't you just research the sources that were mentioned in said article, they may not be alot but, it's a start

Because he is afraid of finding out the truth just like his buddy Kharma Dog.Anytime you list your sources on where you get your information,those two just go off and insult you calling you an idiot ect instead of doing the mature thing and researching the information you provide them so a discussion can be held about it.Thats why I got those two on my ignore list.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Because he is afraid of finding out the truth just like his buddy Kharma Dog.

Do you love me so much that you have to mention me in every one of your posts?

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Thats why I got those two on my ignore list.

You do realize that by posting this, and then immediatly afterwards being the first to post in a thread I created makes you look like not only a hypocrit, but a complete spaz don't you?

Your trolling ways continue. I sense a ban around the corner.

Originally posted by Deano
your stupid for ignoring the obvious.

see this is why you are ridiculous. whenever you cant handle something you resort to childish comments about lizards. world government would be good if it was for good intentions...its not.

oh and you say less wars? you mean the wars that were and still are being deliberatly created by this elite to JUSTIFY A WORLD GOVERNMENT with every human being under complete control?

HAHAHA.

they create monsters to use them agaisnt us. e.g al quaida. its provable. its fact. they give saddam hussain weapons, so later on they have an excuse to invade him. wake up man.

I am not ignoring the obvious. I am ignoring the delusional, and the latter group includes you. You really should just chill, you are far too paranoid for your own good.

What a boring voice, nevertheless interesting and very true.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Do you love me so much that you have to mention me in every one of your posts?



You do realize that by posting this, and then immediatly afterwards being the first to post in a thread I created makes you look like not only a hypocrit, but a complete spaz don't you?

Your trolling ways continue. I sense a ban around the corner.

It is because we all love you!

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
It is because we all love you!

I think a few would beg to differ with you, but thanks for the moral support.

Originally posted by Deano
its nothin to do with being a patriot. the forces that run the world operate mainly in britain. THen why don't you go stop them?Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Why don't you just research the sources that were mentioned in said article, they may not be alot but, it's a start I don't remember seeing any.

Hey Deano
YOU SAID!

we know bush and his cronies were on there knees at buckingham palace recieving honours. what are they doing goinf on there knees to these people who were enemys not so long ago? well its because they are going home saying 'pat me on the back for doing such a fine job, america is sinking a little bit further into the abyss, wheres my medal?''

think about it

Alittle Tsarion rubbin off there my friend, but i totally agree

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MORGAN GUARANTY TRUST BUILDING
23 Wall Street at Broad Street

All orders for the U.S President originate within 'The City' of London and get handed out by the Royal Institute of International Affairs. This then goes through the Morgan Guaranty Trust & Bank which then goes into the hands of the U.S Secretary of State. Its this persons role to then inform the U.S President of his London masters wishes. Remember every U.S Secretary of State gets chosen by the R.I.I.A in London and have done since 1919.



JPMorgan Chase & Co

Now when we consider that its the Chief Executive Officer who hands the U.S Secretary of State the orders from the Royal Institute of International Affairs we can get a little further. So from this I've found that the current puppet master in the United States of the Royal Institute for International Affairs controlled by the Black Nobility is none other than:

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Jamie Dimon
Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer - JPMorgan Chase & Co

Who took over recently January 1st 2006 from:

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William B Harrison
Chairman of the Board, President, Chief Executive Officer - JPMorgan Chase & Co

Who was in charge since November 20, 2001

Now heres the two of them together:

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no one said she was

I'm just saying. . .

Conspiracy theorists like myself believe modern history reflects a long-term conspiracy by an international financial elite to enslave humanity.

Like blind men examining an elephant, we attribute this conspiracy to Jews, Illuminati, Vatican, Jesuits, Freemasons, Black Nobility, and Bildersbergs etc.

The real villains are at the heart of our economic and cultural life. They are the dynastic families who own the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve and associated cartels. They also control the World Bank and IMF and most of the world's Intelligence agencies. Their identity is secret but Rothschild is certainly one of them. The Bank of England was "nationalized" in 1946 but the power to create money remained in the same hands.

England is in fact a financial oligarchy run by the "Crown" which refers to the "City of London" not the Queen. The City of London is run by the Bank of England, a private corporation. The square-mile-large City is a sovereign state located in the heart of greater London. As the "Vatican of the financial world," the City is not subject to British law.

On the contrary, the bankers dictate to the British Parliament. In 1886, Andrew Carnegie wrote that, "six or seven men can plunge the nation into war without consulting Parliament at all." Vincent Vickers, a director of the Bank of England from 1910-1919 blamed the City for the wars of the world. ("Economic Tribulation" (1940) cited in Knuth, The Empire of the City, 1943, p 60)

The British Empire was an extension of bankers' financial interests. Indeed, all the non-white colonies (India, Hong Kong, Gibraltar) were "Crown Colonies." They belonged to the City and were not subject to British law although Englishmen were expected to conquer and pay for them.

The Bank of England assumed control of the U.S. during the T.R. Roosevelt administration (1901-1909) when its agent J.P. Morgan took over 25% of American business. (Anton Chaitkin, Treason in America, 1964)

According to the "American Almanac," the bankers are part of a network called the "Club of the Isles" which is an informal association of predominantly European-based royal households including the Queen. The Club of the Isles commands an estimated $10 trillion in assets. It lords over such corporate giants as Royal Dutch Shell, Imperial Chemical Industries, Lloyds of London, Unilever, Lonrho, Rio Tinto Zinc, and Anglo American DeBeers. It dominates the world supply of petroleum, gold, diamonds, and many other vital raw materials; and deploys these assets at the disposal of its geopolitical agenda.

Its goal: to reduce the human population from its current level of over 5 billion people to below 1 billion people within the next two to three generations; to literally ``cull the human herd'' in the interest of retaining their own global power and the feudal system upon which that power is based.

Historian Jeffrey Steinberg could be referring to the US, Canada and Australia when he writes, "England, Scotland, Wales, and, especially, Northern Ireland, are today little more than slave plantations and social engineering laboratories, serving the needs of ...the City of London...

These families constitute a financier oligarchy; they are the power behind the Windsor throne. They view themselves as the heirs to the Venetian oligarchy, which infiltrated and subverted England from the period 1509-1715, and established a new, more virulent, Anglo-Dutch-Swiss strain of the oligarchic system of imperial Babylon, Persia, Rome, and Byzantium....

The City of London dominates the world's speculative markets. A tightly interlocking group of corporations, involved in raw materials extraction, finance, insurance, transportation, and food production, controls the lion's share of the world market, and exerts virtual ``choke point'' control over world industry."

Steinberg belongs to a group of historians associated with economist Lyndon Larouche. They have traced this scourge to the migration of the Venetian mercantile oligarchy to England more than 300 years ago.

Although the Larouche historians do not say so, it appears that many members of this oligarchy were Jews. Cecil Roth writes: "The trade of Venice was overwhelmingly concentrated in the hands of the Jews, the wealthiest of the mercantile class." (The History of the Jews in Venice, 1930)

The Jewish banking families made it a practice to marry their female offspring to spendthrift European aristocrats. In Jewish law, the mixed offspring of a Jewish mother is Jewish. (The male heirs always marry Jews.) For example, in 1878 Hannah Rothschild married Lord Rosebery. who later became Prime Minister. In 1922 Louis Mountbatten, the uncle of Prince Philip and cousin of the Queen married the granddaughter of Jewish banker Ernest Cassel, one of the wealthiest men in the world. Winston Churchill's mother, Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome, was Jewish. By the beginning of the 1900s, there were very few English aristocrat families left that hadn't intermarried with Jews. It was said that, when they visited the Continent, Europeans were surprised to see Jewish looking persons with English titles and accents.

According to L.G. Pine, the Editor of Burke's Peerage , Jews "have made themselves so closely connected with the British peerage that the two classes are unlikely to suffer loss which is not mutual. So closely linked are the Jews and the lords that a blow against the Jews in this country would not be possible without injuring the aristocracy also." (Tales of the British Aristocracy1957, p.219.)

If they aren't Jewish by intermarriage, many European aristocrats consider themselves descendents of Biblical Hebrews. The Hapsburgs are related by marriage to the Merovingians who claim to be descendents of the Tribe of Benjamin.

In addition, many aristocrats belong to the "British Israel" Movement that believes the British soveriegn is the head of the Anglo Saxon "Lost Tribes" of Israel and that the Apocalyse will see the full reconstitution of the British Empire.

According to Barbara Aho, Rosicrucians and Freemasons, who believe in British Israelism, have a plan to place one of their bloodline on the throne of the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. This positioning of a false messiah whom the world will worship as Christ has been carefully planned and executed over many centuries.

According to Barry Chamish, "there would be no modern state of Israel without British Freemasonry. In the 1860s, the British-Israelite movement was initiated from within Freemasonry. Its goal was to establish a Jewish-Masonic state in the Turkish province of Palestine...Initially, British Jewish Masonic families like the Rothschilds and Montefiores provided the capital to build the infrastructure for the anticipated wave of immigration. However, luring the Jews to Israel was proving difficult. They, simply, liked European life too much to abandon it. So Europe was to be turned into a nightmare for the Jews."

CONCLUSION

I wasted much of my life getting a conventional education, so I feel I am beginning my education anew.

It appears that a vampire-like clique directs the world. This secretive cabal is represented by our dominant political, economic and cultural institutions. Western society has been subverted and western culture is bankrupt. Democracy is a form of social control and the mass media/ education are systems for indoctrination.

Essentially the problem boils down to whether we believe man was made in God's image and has an obligation to lift himself to a higher level of truth, beauty and justice. Naturally monopolists have no use for this and want to define reality to suit their own interests. They have taught us that God is dead and man is just a fancy animal without a divine soul. Culture today tends to deny standards, ideals and goals of any kind. Instead, we are fed an endless diet of trivia and degradation.

Certain elite Jews are an integral part of this elite neo feudal conspiracy. Throughout history they have had a symbiotic relationship with the aristocracy. But ordinary Jews like the serfs were manipulated and persecuted by their elites.

True Judaism like Islam and Christianity affirms the supremacy of God as a moral force. A real Jew, like a true Christian or Muslim cannot perform an immoral act. It's time to reaffirm our belief in God.