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The Solar System now has 8 planets, not 9, not anymore. Pluto was demoted.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/astronomers-give-pluto-the-boot-as/20060824050509990019?ncid=NWS00010000000001

**** them...I keep my Pluto as a Planet.


Also this part:

"Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's."

I am not a Physicist..but wouldn't that disqualify Neptune as well

I don't think so (I think its orbit is fairly "normal"...but also Neptune certainly has the size.

Walt Disney gets to keep the name for their dog! W00t!

its selective discrimination. just the white man trying to keep pluto down.

Originally posted by Mindship
I don't think so (I think its orbit is fairly "normal"...but also Neptune certainly has the size.

I think it's not about the shape of th orbit though, but the "...and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit", which Neptune didn't do either then...

But then, neither did the other gas giants...just lookit all dem moons 'n' rings.

Originally posted by Mindship
But then, neither did the other gas giants...just lookit all dem moons 'n' rings.

I think they have to clear their orbits around the sun, for example by creating orbits around themselves.

Didn't Neptune do that?

Thank goodness Pluto's gone.

And Ceres is back as a minor planet!

So much for the nine planets in our solar system

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/08/24/astronomers_say_pluto_is_not_a_planet/

Look before you leap http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t418503.html.

Maybe I'm looking at thread titles and not funny plays on words, yeesh

true, the other title is really vague

Well, Pluto always was a poor excuse for a planet.

Merged the threads, leaving a clearer title.

Though possibly misleading- I am sure the debate will go on.

THEY BLEW UP PLUTO??????!!!!! YOU MANIACS!!!!! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Mindship
Didn't Neptune do that?

No, since Pluto still crosses it's orbit. And vice versa.

But Pluto is the eccentric one.

Ah, I gotcha. Neptune (being bigger) should've cleared Pluto out of its neighborhood.
Maybe they meant clearing your orbit of other things in your orbit, not something which merely crosses it.
But then, neither am I an astronomer.


Note to self: be less creative with thread titles...and continue to hold on to your day job.

the real problem is that liberals wont allow pluto to adjust its orbit accordingly

Originally posted by Mindship

Maybe they meant clearing your orbit of other things in your orbit, not something which merely crosses it.


But then it wouldn't apply to Pluto either. I'm jsut saying this argument is flawed. I am sure there are good arguments to deny Pluto's Planet Status, but this one jsut isn't.

thats not the only argument.

"a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

Pluto was automatically disqualified because its orbit overlaps, but it fails beyond that.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But then it wouldn't apply to Pluto either. I'm jsut saying this argument is flawed. I am sure there are good arguments to deny Pluto's Planet Status, but this one jsut isn't.

At the very least, it is a strange criteria, not one I would've even thought of. I would've gone with a "planet" having to meet a complete list of criteria, which would include (but not necessarily be limited to) something about size and orbit shape/stability.

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7075/ripqx0.jpg

the problem with size is that it becomes arbitrary...

Originally posted by Alliance
thats not the only argument.

"a celestial body that is in orbit around the sun, has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a ... nearly round shape, and has cleared the neighborhood around its orbit."

Pluto was automatically disqualified because its orbit overlaps, but it fails beyond that.

Just that the first things happen to apply to pluto...it might not be a celestial body though, I am not sure.

And if that automatically disqalifies an object Neptune has to be disqualified as well,...

Its now termed a Minor Planet, like Ceres and Xena.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its now termed a Minor Planet, like Ceres and Xena.

Yes, and?

Originally posted by Mindship
At the very least, it is a strange criteria, not one I would've even thought of. I would've gone with a "planet" having to meet a complete list of criteria, which would include (but not necessarily be limited to) something about size and orbit shape/stability.

It's size has been a debating point for many years, some feel that Pluto is little more than a meteor that lacked sufficient energy to break free of our suns gravitational pull and became trapped.

Apparently, size does matter.

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They won't get away with this.

!

nice shakya

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just that the first things happen to apply to pluto...it might not be a celestial body though, I am not sure.

And if that automatically disqalifies an object Neptune has to be disqualified as well,...

No it doesn't.

Neptune is the one doing it right, Pluto is doing it wrong. Pluto is getting in the way of Neptune's flight path, not the other way around. But the important point is that Pluto's orbit is shared- a planet creates its own unique orbit. Well, it does now, anyway.

Haley's comet doesn't stop Earth being a planet, and nor does Pluto stop Neptune.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, and?

It means its still significant (you said celestial body?) , just not a big fella.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it doesn't.

Neptune is the one doing it right, Pluto is doing it wrong. Pluto is getting in the way of Neptune's flight path, not the other way around. But the important point is that Pluto's orbit is shared- a planet creates its own unique orbit. Well, it does now, anyway.

Haley's comet doesn't stop Earth being a planet, and nor does Pluto stop Neptune.

That's a totally made up thing though.

How do you decide which one crosses the orbit of the other? You can't really.

Who defined (and why are they right about it) that Pluto doesn't stop Neptune from being a planet while Neptune stops Pluto...since they are doing the exact same thing, crossing each others orbit.

Originally posted by Alliance
It means its still significant (you said celestial body?) , just not a big fella.

I don't doubt that, nothing really changed, it's just a different definition, I just think that one of the reasons (the major reason) is illogical.

NoOOO!!

Well, the reason why Neptune wins that argument is because it is Pluto's orbit that is erratic.

But you are ignoring the second much more important point, about sharing orbits. Pluto's is shared, Neptune's is not.

From now on, only bodies with unique orbits count as planets; that gives us 8. That is what the final part of the definition refers to.

The thing was...ther WAS no definition. Its classification as a planet was arbitrary...


...because your'e not very cool if you discover a big icy rock, but you are cool if you discover a planet.

Pluto was termed a planet.

There is precedent. Ceres used to be considered a planet. It was demoted in the 1800s.

Well, now we DO have a definition, so there you go, Pluto missed the cut.

If Pluto was IN the cut, our system would now be 12 big, so go figure.

Charon, Ceres, Pluto, Sedna, Quorar, and Xena all could have made a cut.

..and the world would be filled with Ceres and a large icy odd bodies.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Well, the reason why Neptune wins that argument is because it is Pluto's orbit that is erratic.

But you are ignoring the second much more important point, about sharing orbits. Pluto's is shared, Neptune's is not.

From now on, only bodies with unique orbits count as planets; that gives us 8. That is what the final part of the definition refers to.

But why is Neptune's not shared? What is this shared are there other bodies besides Neptune that share the Orbit with Pluto?Originally posted by Alliance
The thing was...ther WAS no definition. Its classification as a planet was arbitrary...


...because your'e not very cool if you discover a big icy rock, but you are cool if you discover a planet.

Pluto was termed a planet.

There is precedent. Ceres used to be considered a planet. It was demoted in the 1800s. Ceres most likely lacks an atmosphere...

Pluto shares its orbit with a number of celestial bodies, including Charon, which would have been classified as a planet as well if Pluto had been.

This is not supposition, Bardock, it is fact- Pluto has long been known as sharing its flight path with other objects, which the other planets- or now, just the planets, no need for the 'other'- do not, and it has been one of the big things scientists apparently had against Pluto being a planet.

Neptune's orbit is not shared because there is nothing else there. Easy as that.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Pluto shares its orbit with a number of celestial bodies, including Charon, which would have been classified as a planet as well if Pluto had been.

This is not supposition, Bardock, it is fact- Pluto has long been known as sharing its flight path with other objects, whgich the other planets- or now, just the planets no need for the 'other'- do not, and it has been one of the big things scientists apparently had against Pluto being a planet.

Neptune's orbit is not shared because there is nothing else there. Easy as that.


Well, that's good then, I didn't know there were many other objects sharing Pluto's orbit, which is why I asked.

This doesn't change the fact that this "Pluto is automatically disqualified because its oblong orbit overlaps with Neptune's." is nonsensical reasoning though. Since you can't decide which orbit crosses or shares the other...

Well, as I say, if you ask most astronomers about that, they will say that it is Pluto buggering around being in the wrong place, not Npetune. But that issue isn't so important.

It is all very picky, though. The reason Charon isn't a moon of Pluto is because the centre of its orbit actually misses any part of Pluto, which is in turn because it is too far out. Most people would call it a moon but literally it isn't.

All these definitions are arbitrary. But then again, what else could they be?

i still think its unfair discrimination. we should protest this and boycott neptune.

I think this decision will eventually be overturned in about 2 centuries from now. Once the first astronauts arrive and put a flag there they'll call it a planet...or a moon...or whatever...

Originally posted by Mindship
The Solar System now has 8 planets, not 9, not anymore. Pluto was demoted.
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/astronomers-give-pluto-the-boot-as/20060824050509990019?ncid=NWS00010000000001

Tis okay. Some group, 200 years from now, will make/name it a planet again, and say we were idiots for stripping it of its status.

I'm not sure what the excitment is all about. It's a rock, trillions of miles away. It's not like the aliens who come here from Pluto are going to stop visiting.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I'm not sure what the excitment is all about. It's a rock, trillions of miles away. It's not like the aliens who come here from Pluto are going to stop visiting.

Think about it, we used to be the inhabitants of a nine planet solar system; now we're a measly eight. Tell me that doesn't irk you in some way.

Originally posted by Robtard
Think about it, we used to be the inhabitants of a nine planet solar system; now we're a measly eight. Tell me that doesn't irk you in some way.

Nope, not at all.

Originally posted by Robtard
Think about it, we used to be the inhabitants of a nine planet solar system; now we're a measly eight. Tell me that doesn't irk you in some way. Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Nope, not at all.

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Originally posted by Robtard
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Interesting.

I think he's telling you he was joking.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I think he's telling you he was joking.

You had a dog and BINGO was his name-o...

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I think he's telling you he was joking.

Interesting as well.



Maybe he also...subconciously....accepted that 8 is the number of Planets in the Solar System therefore posting my avatars only 8 times...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Interesting as well.



Maybe he also...subconciously....accepted that 8 is the number of Planets in the Solar System therefore posting my avatars only 8 times...

excellent observation

Originally posted by Bardock42
Interesting as well.



Maybe he also...subconciously....accepted that 8 is the number of Planets in the Solar System therefore posting my avatars only 8 times...

It wasn't subconcious and I'm glad you were clever enough to understand it.

Originally posted by Robtard
It wasn't subconcious and I'm glad you were clever enough to understand it.


Thank you, thank you...I do my best to avoid being stupid.

There are only 8, planets, Pluto is too smal and doesn't have properties like the other planets.

Pluto, Charon, that other one, all planetoids or sometihng.

Originally posted by lord xyz
There are only 8, planets, Pluto is too smal and doesn't have properties like the other planets.

Pluto, Charon, that other one, all planetoids or sometihng.

Wow...did you read anything in this thread?

....or even the thread TITLE??

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow...did you read anything in this thread? Originally posted by PVS
....or even the thread TITLE?? Let me think about that for a second. ermm

Originally posted by lord xyz
Let me think about that for a second. ermm

Second's over.

http://www.nineplanets.org/overview.html

This shows why Pluto is the troublemaker. It has the most eccentric orbit and deviates the most from the plane of the ecliptic. This could be because it did not form in similar fashion to the 'other' planets but rather strayed in from the Kuiper Belt.

What's even more disturbing, does this mean that Pluto (Hades) has now been usurped as the 'Lord of the Underwold' since his Roman namesake is defunct as a planet?

No.

pluto was never a good planet anyway...it never came round the other planets house for a game of cards...it always complained it was too cold...miserable little bastard

Originally posted by Alliance
No.

You and Hades have spoken? It's all good? He isn't upset and upping the fare to cross the River Styx?

Originally posted by jaden101
pluto was never a good planet anyway...it never came round the other planets house for a game of cards...it always complained it was too cold...miserable little bastard

Dude, you know nothing......Neptune started all that, he made the other plantes hate Pluto...he's the one responsible.

what about Uranus?

DAMN! I liked Pluto.

Originally posted by smoker4
what about Uranus?

Mines a virgin and staying that way. Yours?

Originally posted by Robtard
Mines a virgin and staying that way. Yours?

has a few rings

Originally posted by smoker4
what about Uranus?

Dude, they renamed it to get rid of that stupid joke. It's now called Urectum.

Originally posted by smoker4
has a few rings

....or are they in fact stretch marks! HAHA!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, they renamed it to get rid of that stupid joke. It's now called Urectum.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/Farnsworth.png/250px-Farnsworth.png

pluto will always be a planet to me. they can never take that away .

Originally posted by Deano
pluto will always be a planet to me. they can never take that away .

"Resistance is futile."

Locutus of Borg Stardate 43989.1

Originally posted by Deano
pluto will always be a planet to me. they can never take that away .

Just like the Queen will always be a lizard to you. They can't take it awy from you.

Pluto?...........lol

Knew it,............What will we think of it now.....

i dont give a shit what some goddamn tight arsed scientist jerk mother****ers think. they will lose the war.

Originally posted by Robtard
....or are they in fact stretch marks! HAHA!

Not just rings, you seem awfully interested in it though captain

The avi kinda gives it away

Originally posted by smoker4
Not just rings, you seem awfully interested in it though captain

The avi kinda gives it away

Ya, I didn't need to tax my heterosexual gaydar to much. A fluffy cat... Come on man!

And so what if iti's not?

Originally posted by debbiejo
And so what if iti's not?

I think that was directed at me; but what do you mean by "It's not.", what 'it' are you referring to?

Originally posted by Robtard
Ya, I didn't need to tax my heterosexual gaydar to much. A fluffy cat... Come on man!

I was refering to your avi not the kitten of pain

Originally posted by smoker4
I was refering to your avi not the kitten of pain

Lol... You're implying that my avatar is gay while you have a fluffy cat?

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~kfairchi/brock_17.jpg
Brock Sampson is definately not gay, not even a little bit as Alfred Kinsey would say.

You BASTARDS. You won't get away this!

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/s/sailplut.jpg


Pluto Dead Scream!:

http://mysteress.tripod.com/DEADSCREAM.gif

http://www.princessserenity.net/agifs/puu/plutoattack2.gif

Originally posted by Robtard
Lol... You're implying that my avatar is gay while you have a fluffy cat?

http://www.eden.rutgers.edu/~kfairchi/brock_17.jpg
Brock Sampson is definately not gay, not even a little bit as Alfred Kinsey would say.

Well yes since you put it like that

Originally posted by smoker4
Well yes since you put it like that

Brock Sampson is NOT gay... There is nothing gay in his depictions. The man has sleep with Super Soviet Assassin Fem-Fatales, two dollar crack whores, astronaut women and on one occasion, it was hinted that he sexually pleased the Queen of the Ant People. No woman seems to be able to resist his advances once she catches his eye.

Originally posted by Robtard
Brock Sampson is NOT gay... There is nothing gay in his depictions. The man has sleep with Super Soviet Assassin Fem-Fatales, two dollar crack whores, astronaut women and on one occasion, it was hinted that he pleased the Queen of the Ant People. No woman seems to be able to resist his advances once she catches his eye.

Thats so gay

Actually they changed the definition of 'plant' adding 3 new ones to the solar system; Ceres, Charon, and one other

Actually NO.

They officially defined "minor planet" of which are included Ceres, Charon, Pluto, and Xena.

Charon? But Charon's Pluto's moon

And go Sailor Pluto!

Originally posted by Deano
pluto will always be a planet to me. they can never take that away .

It's like seeing Winston Churchill crossed with Frank Sinatra.

Originally posted by Imaginary
Charon? But Charon's Pluto's moon

And go Sailor Pluto!

As I mentioned above, Charon doesn't qualify as a moon of Pluto because the centre of its orbit is not Pluto.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Dude, you know nothing......Neptune started all that, he made the other plantes hate Pluto...he's the one responsible.

dont go starting shit about Neptune...Neptune's been a good mate to jupiter...and jupiter will have you if you start gettin lippy

Originally posted by Alliance
Actually NO.

They officially defined "minor planet" of which are included Ceres, Charon, Pluto, and Xena.
Ok sorry... That's what it said in our city's newspaper a few weeks ago, but today a new article came out stating the above

Pluto, you will always be a planet in my heart. If there's no Pluto, what did my very excellent mother just serve us nine of? My god!!!!

Yes. Do you have a real reason to hold on?

Why can't people just accept science and move on?

Originally posted by Alliance
Actually NO.

They officially defined "minor planet" of which are included Ceres, Charon, Pluto, and Xena. But Charon doesn't orbit the sun, so it shouldn't even qualify as a dwarf planet...

Hold the Phone!

It's not over yet..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060901/sc_nm/space_pluto_dc



It's not over till the fat lady sings!

Say hello to Plutoid!

The Planet Formely known as Pluto

Originally posted by Strangelove
But Charon doesn't orbit the sun, so it shouldn't even qualify as a dwarf planet...

But it won the popular vote?

what's up with that?

(just a litte healthy ball-busting...)

I wonder why they went to all this bother, what does it matter if is a planet or not.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I wonder why they went to all this bother, what does it matter if is a planet or not.

There are a lot of OCD people in astronomy.

I think they're prejudice, geez, just because it small.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I think they're prejudice, geez, just because it small.

Sounds like you can empathize.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
I think they're prejudice, geez, just because it small.

And getting smaller.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Say hello to Plutoid!Bizarro version of Pluto?

http://www.giftcollector.com/ProductImages/53000/53400.lg.jpg

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Say hello to Plutoid!

The Planet Formely known as Pluto
His mamma called him Pluto, I'm gonna call him Pluto.

There's a spacecraft scheduled to do a few drive-bys on Pluto in 2015, be funny if they have to change it back due to new information.

Originally posted by Robtard
His mamma called him Pluto, I'm gonna call him Pluto.

There's a spacecraft scheduled to do a few drive-bys on Pluto in 2015, be funny if they have to change it back due to new information.

Just one fry by.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/newhorizons/main/index.html

I can't wait.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Sounds like you can empathize. Yeah, I can. I'm still a person, I'm still a person. Just because I'm small........

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Yeah, I can. I'm still a person, I'm still a person. Just because I'm small........

Deja~vu-toid?

Noooooooooooooo..