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After reading Wolverine #45 and Wolverine/Darkness, I can honestly say that Logan's jobber aura has suprpassed that of anyone in comics EVER.

Seriously in his own book he not only was fighting Namor in h2h, but also was fighting him underwater. Sure he had an old IM suit on, but if Tony with the extremis suit cant beat Namor underwater what chance in hell does Wolverine have? According to Marvel a good one

Oh but it gets worse. Not only that, but Wolverine chopped off Nitro's hand. Even though Nitro could have just turned himself into scattered molocules and reassembelled himself somwhere else.

Then there's Wolverine/Darkness which was even more ridiculous than Wolverine in his solo book.

First Wolverine somehow blocks a darkness bullet with a police officer. What so weird about that you ask? Well the bullet was aimed for his head and somehow ended up in the cop's shoulder?!?!

Then Wolverine somehow managed to CATCH a dakness bullet. Yes apparently now not only can Wolverine take bullets like they are nothing, he can catch them also

Of course that was in WWII. Current Day Wolverine shrugs off blasts from a Darkness shotgun like they are nothing and then somehow manages to defeat a small army of darkness creatures with ease..TWICE!

However aside from Wolverine's ridiculous jobbering the book was actually good. In the end though Darkness says he could easily kill Wolverine if he wanted to which was a little reassuring, but still dosent make up for the jobbering from before.

wolverine/darkness? you mean jackie estacado?

Superman's Jobber aura is the biggest no matter what

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
wolverine/darkness? you mean jackie estacado?

Its weird

He fought Jackie and his grandfather.

fcuk comic issue name?

Wolverine's always been able to catch bulets...

You know, how can you say if his aura has grown if you didn't actually read them before hand (as evidenced by the catching bullets comment.)

Way to go Grimm You read a couple comics and you thought you knew the character You are just bitter and hate the character we know, you don't have to go around in every thread(or make them) saying you hate him. You even voted on the hate thread that you hate wolverine. Ok, congrats, have a cookie.

jackie should have killed logan in seconds

I don't normally agree with Grim, but Namor should've been able to knock him into orbit. That was a horrible showing for Namor.
Probably to venus.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wolverine's always been able to catch bulets...

You know, how can you say if his aura has grown if you didn't actually read them before hand (as evidenced by the catching bullets comment.)

Wolverine catching bullets = PIS.

Superman catches bullets, Flash catches bullets.

Wolverine isnt anywhere near the speed of these characters

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wolverine catching bullets = PIS.

Superman catches bullets, Flash catches bullets.

Wolverine isnt anywhere near the speed of these characters
Why real people have caught bullets?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wolverine catching bullets = PIS.

Superman catches bullets, Flash catches bullets.

Wolverine isnt anywhere near the speed of these characters
when did darkness/wolverine came out?

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Way to go Grimm You read a couple comics and you thought you knew the character You are just bitter and hate the character we know, you don't have to go around in every thread(or make them) saying you hate him. You even voted on the hate thread that you hate wolverine. Ok, congrats, have a cookie.

Yes because I just make threads to say how much I hate Wolverine

Because it has nothing do with the fact that you and other wolverine fanboys hate me for pointing out how badly Wolverine's character has been ruined by his constant jobbering or him being Marvel's cashcow right

Like I said before, I like wolverine BEFORE he became a jobbering cashcow, while most Wolverine fanboys prefer the unstoppable, unbeatable Wolverine.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
when did darkness/wolverine came out?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
when did darkness/wolverine came out?

I think this week

The shop owner just had it. I dont even remember it being on the shipping list.

Originally posted by Broly92
Why real people have caught bullets?

Originally posted by Broly92
Why real people have caught bullets?

Magicians have "caught" bullets.

A canadian samurai with claws and a healing factor should be catching bullets.

Wolverine is around Cap's speed. Thus he can dodge bullets, however he cannot catch them

Originally posted by Grimm22
Magicians have "caught" bullets.

A canadian samurai with claws and a healing factor should be catching bullets.

Wolverine is around Cap's speed. Thus he can dodge bullets, however he cannot catch them
No not like they can repeat it but it has been known that real people have caught bullets coming at them (being very,very lucky once in a live time)

Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't normally agree with Grim, but Namor should've been able to knock him into orbit. That was a horrible showing for Namor.
Probably to venus.
How about Uranus?

Originally posted by Broly92
Superman's Jobber aura is the biggest no matter what
Shut it!

Marvel will do what they must to keep Wolverine popular due to all the X Men movies and the upcoming Wolverine movie. IMO, Namor did have a low showing in Wolverine 45 but he did knock Logan out. As Broly pointed out, Superman has a jobber aura as does Batman, Captain America and Hulk. (All of which are favorites of mine) I do think Marvel should give Wolverine a power up if they are going to continue to show him as top tier.

The only thing this thread did was make me was to read the comic. Anybody have scans?

Originally posted by Grimm22
Wolverine catching bullets = PIS.

Superman catches bullets, Flash catches bullets.

Wolverine isnt anywhere near the speed of these characters Don't need to be as fast as those characters.

Just need to be faster than the gunman.

You can dodge bullets, you can get out of the way of the gun before its fired. To catch them you do the same prediction as to where its going to go and when it's going to be there and move what you need to catch the bullet in around its path.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

the fact that wolverine had a hance against Jackie makes me angry

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yes because I just make threads to say how much I hate Wolverine

Because it has nothing do with the fact that you and other wolverine fanboys hate me for pointing out how badly Wolverine's character has been ruined by his constant jobbering or him being Marvel's cashcow right

Like I said before, I like wolverine BEFORE he became a jobbering cashcow, while most Wolverine fanboys prefer the unstoppable, unbeatable Wolverine. No, I seen you before in every thread bashing him for 5 pages so don't bullshit No, It's the wolvie haters that makes mismatch threads on purpose like that draco guy, then 10 other wolvie haters go in and start saying he wins the mismatch and bash him for 5 pages, I seen this...no one even defending wolverine and you complain there fanboys out there. Sorry, eat your cookie and find a new hobby. Oh and no offense befor eyou get all mad I haven't even posted anything defending wolverine you thing fanboy..

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
No, I seen you before in every thread bashing him for 5 pages so don't bullshit No, It's the wolvie haters that makes mismatch threads on purpose like that draco guy, then 10 other wolvie haters go in and start saying he wins the mismatch and bash him for 5 pages, I seen this...no one even defending wolverine and you complain there fanboys out there. Sorry, eat your cookie and find a new hobby. Oh and no offense befor eyou get all mad I haven't even posted anything defending wolverine you thing fanboy.. Hes just mad because thing is stuck in the backburner as far as characters go.

Originally posted by Broly92
No not like they can repeat it but it has been known that real people have caught bullets coming at them (being very,very lucky once in a live time) Dude, don't confuse him with facts.

Let him claim he liked a character after having proven he didn't know the character during the time he claimed he liked him, and let him just hate the character. Like Big sexy said, he's just upset about his character.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
The only thing this thread did was make me was to read the comic. Anybody have scans?
Check the Namor vs Wolverine thread.

Originally posted by badabing
Check the Namor vs Wolverine thread.

I think he meant the one that just came out. which hasn't been posted anywhere.

as for the the rest of the wolverine civil war tie in issues there somewhere in the civil war scans thread.

Originally posted by Black Adam
I think he meant the one that just came out. which hasn't been posted anywhere.

as for the the rest of the wolverine civil war tie in issues there somewhere in the civil war scans thread.
it is posted
Originally posted by badabing
Check the Namor vs Wolverine thread.

I mean the Wolverine Darkness comic

i want that comic so much but i can't find it

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WHat u guys mean by "jobber"? Im thinking in wrestling terms in which a "jobber" always loses to make the other guy look good.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
WHat u guys mean by "jobber"? Im thinking in wrestling terms in which a "jobber" always loses to make the other guy look good. Yeah that would be it.

A jobber aura forces people around you to be the jobber . . .

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
WHat u guys mean by "jobber"? Im thinking in wrestling terms in which a "jobber" always loses to make the other guy look good.
You got it. If a character has a jobber aura it affects the abilities of the person he is fighting.

Even the almighty Thanos has fallen to bone claws.
That says it all right there.

A gift for Grimm.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Don't need to be as fast as those characters.

Just need to be faster than the gunman.

You can dodge bullets, you can get out of the way of the gun before its fired. To catch them you do the same prediction as to where its going to go and when it's going to be there and move what you need to catch the bullet in around its path.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I don't think you understand exactly how fast a bullet moves. Street levelers dodge bullets because as you said they move from the muzzles before the bullet is fired. Spider-Man is one exception that actually can dodge the bullets after they've been fired as he is much faster than the average street leveler and sees the bullets in slow motion. As such he's really the only one who I see able to really handle this feat. I can accept Wolverine doing this, but not if its like nothing to him

daredevil can bat away bullets with his club.....

Originally posted by marvelprince
I don't think you understand exactly how fast a bullet moves. Street levelers dodge bullets because as you said they move from the muzzles before the bullet is fired. Spider-Man is one exception that actually can dodge the bullets after they've been fired as he is much faster than the average street leveler and sees the bullets in slow motion. As such he's really the only one who I see able to really handle this feat. I can accept Wolverine doing this, but not if its like nothing to him I understand exactly how fast a bullet moves, and I realize it's harder to catch a bullet, because that requires precice timing and prediction of the bullet's path of travel and right where it'll be.

But Wolverine has caught a bullet before.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Don't need to be as fast as those characters.

Just need to be faster than the gunman.

You can dodge bullets, you can get out of the way of the gun before its fired. To catch them you do the same prediction as to where its going to go and when it's going to be there and move what you need to catch the bullet in around its path.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Bullets Speed Usually owns The Gunmans Speed.

Originally posted by Broly92
Superman's Jobber aura is the biggest no matter what

No it isn't. You're just saying that 'cause you like Wolverine and you hate Superman.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Bullets Speed Usually owns The Gunmans Speed. So people who dodge bullets move faster than bullets?

Yeah, batman is faster than a speeding bullet, Wolverine is faster than a speeding bullet, Daredevil is faster than a speeding bullet... Riiiiight.

Originally posted by badabing
You got it. If a character has a jobber aura it affects the abilities of the person he is fighting. Oh ok the aura affects the people they fight, LOL. Yup that must be Wolverines 2nd mutation.

Originally posted by Darth Vicious
Oh ok the aura affects the people they fight, LOL. Yup that must be Wolverines 2nd mutation.
OMG!

Originally posted by badabing
As Broly pointed out, Superman has a jobber aura as does Batman, Captain America and Hulk. (All of which are favorites of mine)

I thought you hated Hulk badabing? Maybe I'm crazy...

On other note, an average bullet goes 1000 feet per second. (just looked it up)

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I thought you hated Hulk badabing? Maybe I'm crazy...

On other note, an average bullet goes 1000 feet per second. (just looked it up)
I like the hulk actually read the comics. I just like going into the versus threads to say "Hulk wins because he's the strongest one there is".

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
Way to go Grimm You read a couple comics and you thought you knew the character You are just bitter and hate the character we know, you don't have to go around in every thread(or make them) saying you hate him. You even voted on the hate thread that you hate wolverine. Ok, congrats, have a cookie.
man I so agree with you. just ignore grimm22 he not worth the time he pritty mcuh the most worthless debater on the forums

Originally posted by marvelprince
I don't think you understand exactly how fast a bullet moves. Street levelers dodge bullets because as you said they move from the muzzles before the bullet is fired. Spider-Man is one exception that actually can dodge the bullets after they've been fired as he is much faster than the average street leveler and sees the bullets in slow motion. As such he's really the only one who I see able to really handle this feat. I can accept Wolverine doing this, but not if its like nothing to him
go read the weapon-x noval.

wolverine due to his reflexes and senses sees bullets in slow motion it is all explain in the noval you should read it some time.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
No, I seen you before in every thread bashing him for 5 pages so don't bullshit No, It's the wolvie haters that makes mismatch threads on purpose like that draco guy, then 10 other wolvie haters go in and start saying he wins the mismatch and bash him for 5 pages, I seen this...no one even defending wolverine and you complain there fanboys out there. Sorry, eat your cookie and find a new hobby. Oh and no offense befor eyou get all mad I haven't even posted anything defending wolverine you thing fanboy..
Dude that was awosome.


I could not have said it better my self

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Don't need to be as fast as those characters.

Just need to be faster than the gunman.

You can dodge bullets, you can get out of the way of the gun before its fired. To catch them you do the same prediction as to where its going to go and when it's going to be there and move what you need to catch the bullet in around its path.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

You can be fast enough or smart enough to know where the shot is going and what not.

However thats not the same thing as catching a freakin bullet which goes close to the speed of sound

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
i want that comic so much but i can't find it

I'll send you mine

Just send me a copy of the new astonishing x-men

Originally posted by bigbran
Even the almighty Thanos has fallen to bone claws.
That says it all right there.

Originally posted by Grimm22
You can be fast enough or smart enough to know where the shot is going and what not.

However thats not the same thing as catching a freakin bullet which goes close to the speed of sound

IF you know how fast its going to be traveling, and you know the path it's going to be taking, and you're fast enough to get out of the way....

you don't think a person could be fat enough to get out of the way and skilled enough to be able to tag it?

When has Wolverine caught bullets?

I've saw him swipe at bullets, but never-ever catch them. Actually, I've never seen him display any superspeed on the level of say...Spiderman or so.

Originally posted by long pig
When has Wolverine caught bullets?

I've saw him swipe at bullets, but never-ever catch them. Actually, I've never seen him display any superspeed on the level of say...Spiderman or so. Yeah, he's cut bullets out of the air before.

Skill not just speed.

Originally posted by long pig
When has Wolverine caught bullets?

I've saw him swipe at bullets, but never-ever catch them. Actually, I've never seen him display any superspeed on the level of say...Spiderman or so.
any feat of spiderman i can match with a feat of wolverines

Originally posted by capt it up
any feat of spiderman i can match with a feat of wolverines



hysterical

Do you even know what you just said

Here is just one

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ripping the steel base of a crane off, and throwing the tower (and cargo) into some nearby water.
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29825wc.gif

Originally posted by Grimm22
Here is just one
again u miss read. I ment a speed feat but of course you dont have the intel to comprehend that

Originally posted by capt it up
any feat of spiderman i can match with a feat of wolverines

This is what you said...

This is what you should have said

Originally posted by capt it up
any speed feat of spiderman i can match with a feat of wolverines

Even that is absurd.

Spidey is the most agile character in comics.

Not only that but Wolverine has speed nowhere near Spidey's

Originally posted by Grimm22
This is what you said...

This is what you should have said
again like i said your not smart enough to comperhend. did you not notice that I quote long pig? go look back at my post and if you really can't comperhend that then you are sad

Originally posted by capt it up
any feat of spiderman i can match with a feat of wolverines
No you can't, dude.

C'mon, I've been a die hard Wolverine fan since age 11 and I know he isn't as fast Spiderman. And I HATE SPIDERMAN.

I have 95% of his comics on this very friggin' computer and I know for a fact he's slower than Spiderman. Wolverine is slightly enhanced speedwise, but not above Captain America.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Even that is absurd.

Spidey is the most agile character in comics.

Not only that but Wolverine has speed nowhere near Spidey's
prove that wolverine speed in combat is no were near spidermans.


I like to see you prove it since ever feat you can muster I will match with one of Logan

Originally posted by capt it up
again like i said your not smart enough to comperhend. did you not notice that I quote long pig? go look back at my post and if you really can't comperhend that then you are sad
He's just being a douche bag trying to start trouble. Even though I say Wolverine isn't as fast as Spiderman, I still think he'd beat Spiderman.

Originally posted by long pig
No you can't, dude.

C'mon, I've been a die hard Wolverine fan since age 11 and I know he isn't as fast Spiderman. And I HATE SPIDERMAN.

I have 95% of his comics on this very friggin' computer and I know for a fact he's slower than Spiderman. Wolverine is slightly enhanced speedwise, but not above Captain America.
actaully I can and I will. yes wolverine in my oppinion is above capt. and is always listed as such.


any ways I can and will match any spiderman feat of combat speed with one of wolverine.

Originally posted by long pig
He's just being a douche bag trying to start trouble. Even though I say Wolverine isn't as fast as Spiderman, I still think he'd beat Spiderman.
I dont think wolverine is as fast as spiderman either but I do how ever think he in the same level and slow close that it would not matter in a fight

O.K:

Spiderman wraps 4 bullets mid-air in webbing, making them harmless, all coming from different directions all at the same time mostly with his back turned.

O.K:
Spiderman dashes from 50 feet or so to bridge the gap between, attacks Daredevil, jumps away out of sight all before DD's brain can send a nerve impulse to move out of the way.

Originally posted by capt it up
I dont think wolverine is as fast as spiderman either but I do how ever think he in the same level and slow close that it would not matter in a fight
Same level somewhat, but not close. Their durability and skill are so far apart that Spiderman would lose badly against wolverine.

Originally posted by long pig
O.K:

Spiderman wraps 4 bullets mid-air in webbing, making them harmless, all coming from different directions all at the same time mostly with his back turned.

O.K:
Spiderman dashes from 50 feet or so to bridge the gap between, attacks Daredevil, jumps away out of sight all before DD's brain can send a nerve impulse to move out of the way.
you gotta give me scanns or issue numebrs here. just saying things is not enough. I own almost every spiderman comic and I can simply look it up.

Well, I don't own spiderman's comics, but those feats are real. I have no reason to lie, I don't even like the guy.

Originally posted by long pig
Well, I don't own spiderman's comics, but those feats are real. I have no reason to lie, I don't even like the guy.
I dont think your leing, but I do how ever think you are not recalling that feats 100% correct which matters a lot since I need to know what the feat truely is. also this is not the thread for this ebcuase it will only thrive the wolverine hatered if you kindly move to the cyber ninja thread were we can further thsi discussion

Originally posted by Broly92
Superman's Jobber aura is the biggest no matter what That is so true. Superman sucks because of that!

Originally posted by capt it up
actaully I can and I will. yes wolverine in my oppinion is above capt. and is always listed as such.


any ways I can and will match any spiderman feat of combat speed with one of wolverine. Well from what I have read Marvel has Wolverine at the same level of fighting ability as Cap. America.

Originally posted by kenobi
Well from what I have read Marvel has Wolverine at the same level of fighting ability as Cap. America.
I was talking about agility and reflex not fighting skill

Isotope E Quicksilver would kick Spideys and Wolverines asses at the same time.

What the hell has this to do with this thread? Nothing so
please you two be kind and stop this Spiderman vs Wolverine thing,
If you want to discuss that then do it in the Spidey vs Wolvi thread.

does anyone have scans or wolveirne vs namor underwater?

So, the problem i see here comes once again to comics vs reality

In the real world, not including magicians or others who practice for years before even trying the trick once, people arent catching bullets. If you think they have, please find me a news release or something to proove this, because as far as I am concerned, its beyond unrealistic.

Even if someone was skilled enough to put a hand on a bullet or whatever, it would destroy the person's hand, so if by catch you mean "get shot in the hand" then yes, i guess that is possible. Bullets will blow fingers off on contact, you cannot stop one with a "catch".

This means pretty much NOTHING in regards to wolverine however. For instance, how many short Canadians do you know that have foot long claws comming out of their wrists? So, that alone should tell you that the contents of a story about this person will be, ummmmm, unrealistic?

So, quick run down, in reality, bullets are very devestating. I would do my best to avoid being in their path. In comics, they are nothing, even getting shot rarely becomes an issue, since the wound is normally gone within 2 or 3 pages. Do not try to use real world examples to show how things work in comics, because things dont work realistically in the comic world.

Comics suck. Reading Playboy is much better

Playboy is a pretty good read, not that i've read one in years

one of my favorite articles comes from penthouse, they do an interview with L. Ron Hubbard Jr about how crazy his father and scientology are

Originally posted by long pig
He's just being a douche bag trying to start trouble. Even though I say Wolverine isn't as fast as Spiderman, I still think he'd beat Spiderman.

Yes im a douche bag trying to start trouble by questioning Capt's ridiculous remarks

Originally posted by ankur29
does anyone have scans or wolveirne vs namor underwater?

Its absurd.

Wolverine is wearing some kind of old Iron Man armor and somehow beats not only Namor but some of his best soldiers UNDERWATER?!?

Considering that Namor pwned Tony in the extremis suit in the water its ubsurd to even think Wolverine can

Originally posted by inamilist
So, the problem i see here comes once again to comics vs reality

In the real world, not including magicians or others who practice for years before even trying the trick once, people arent catching bullets. If you think they have, please find me a news release or something to proove this, because as far as I am concerned, its beyond unrealistic.

Even if someone was skilled enough to put a hand on a bullet or whatever, it would destroy the person's hand, so if by catch you mean "get shot in the hand" then yes, i guess that is possible. Bullets will blow fingers off on contact, you cannot stop one with a "catch".

This means pretty much NOTHING in regards to wolverine however. For instance, how many short Canadians do you know that have foot long claws comming out of their wrists? So, that alone should tell you that the contents of a story about this person will be, ummmmm, unrealistic?

So, quick run down, in reality, bullets are very devestating. I would do my best to avoid being in their path. In comics, they are nothing, even getting shot rarely becomes an issue, since the wound is normally gone within 2 or 3 pages. Do not try to use real world examples to show how things work in comics, because things dont work realistically in the comic world.

It really dosent matter if you know where the bullet is going or if you can see it in slow mo or not. If your not fast enough to move at the speed of the bullet you cant catch it

N'uff Said

Originally posted by Grimm22
Its absurd.

Wolverine is wearing some kind of old Iron Man armor and somehow beats not only Namor but some of his best soldiers UNDERWATER?!?

Considering that Namor pwned Tony in the extremis suit in the water its ubsurd to even think Wolverine can

that does sound kind of dumb.


can we get some scans?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So people who dodge bullets move faster than bullets?

Yeah, batman is faster than a speeding bullet, Wolverine is faster than a speeding bullet, Daredevil is faster than a speeding bullet... Riiiiight.



The firer of the Gun Is Slower Than The Bullet Usually.

Originally posted by Ricodrayz
No, I seen you before in every thread bashing him for 5 pages so don't bullshit No, It's the wolvie haters that makes mismatch threads on purpose like that draco guy, then 10 other wolvie haters go in and start saying he wins the mismatch and bash him for 5 pages I find it funny that you did the same thing with Spiderman (trying to get back at me for whatever reason, which failed), then again the people who go against Spiderman the most are often Wolverine fanboys.

Oh and if you are talking about Wolverine vs Superman it is pretty obvious that everyone was joking, the only ones who get sensitive about it are the fanboys. Half the fun in it isn't even people hating him, but just seeing the fanboys moan that everyone has a conspiracy against logan.

Originally posted by Black Adam
can we get some scans?

You really do not want them.

dig in your collection of spider-man and re-read Spider-man vs. Wolverine. Spidey freaks out in the fight and wonders if wolverine is faster than him. Spidey barely holds his own, the claws scared the pee out of him.. lol he's second guessing himself since he claims nobody is faster than him....while he's pissin himself, silly.

alrighty found some old power ratings, if they hold true to nowadays it goes like this....1 being lowest and 7 highest.

Spider-Man
strength 4
intelligence 4
energy projection 1
mental powers 2
fighting ability 4
speed 3

Wolverine
strength 2
intelligence 3
energy projection 1
mental powers 1
fighting ability 7
speed 2

In the speed catagory the winner is Spider-man.

well not just speed

Wolv Only Beat Spiderman in fighting ability.

Originally posted by Grimm22
It really dosent matter if you know where the bullet is going or if you can see it in slow mo or not. If your not fast enough to move at the speed of the bullet you cant catch it

N'uff Said
Why does this bother so much? It's not like a street-leveler catching bullets is the most unusual thing to ever happen in comics.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Wolv Only Beat Spiderman in fighting ability.
Also durability. Possibly stamina as well, which is mainly how he can hang with him.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
then again the people who go against Spiderman the most are often Wolverine fanboys. Wait... this is a logical paradox....

You need nother parameter...

Cause in Namor vs Spiderman . . .

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner


The firer of the Gun Is Slower Than The Bullet Usually.

Which is why the dodger can get out of the way in time, cause they just have to get out of way of the aim. Or get something to deflect the bullet in the way in time to catch it.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which is why the dodger can get out of the way in time, cause they just have to get out of way of the aim. Or get something to deflect the bullet in the way in time to catch it.

A Normal human couldn't catch something going near the speed of sound it would just rip there skin right off.

yeah that is why you have to catch from not front but left or right side i doubt wolvie would be fast enough for that

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
A Normal human couldn't catch something going near the speed of sound it would just rip there skin right off.
It's comics. Humans do this sort of thing all the time. And before people bring in the PIS argument, I really wouldn't put a street leveler catching bullets in the same category as Wolvie regenerating from a skeleton.

Just read darkness/wolverine wolvie catches a darkness bullet fired from a sniper rifle with 2 fingers ::

Originally posted by Creshosk
Wait... this is a logical paradox....

You need nother parameter...

Cause in Namor vs Spiderman . . . That is the thread I'm talking about actually.

Originally posted by Accel
Why does this bother so much? It's not like a street-leveler catching bullets is the most unusual thing to ever happen in comics.

Eh, its really not THAT big of a deal anymore

Honestly though if anyone said that Wolverine could catch a bullet because of his speed then I would probobly punch them in the face

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That is the thread I'm talking about actually. So if you think Namor can beat Spiderman you're a Wolverine fanboy?

well wolverine did stabed namor and gave him beating, but everytime he beats someone its a PIS right? thats strange he started his way by cutting hulk and wendigo and taking out powerhouses and now giving namor a beating is PIS, ok

Originally posted by wolvertooth
well wolverine did stabed namor and gave him beating, but everytime he beats someone its a PIS right? thats strange he started his way by cutting hulk and wendigo and taking out powerhouses and now giving namor a beating is PIS, ok Trust me dude your gonna find that a lot with dudes in this forum

Originally posted by wolvertooth
well wolverine did stabed namor and gave him beating, but everytime he beats someone its a PIS right? thats strange he started his way by cutting hulk and wendigo and taking out powerhouses and now giving namor a beating is PIS, ok Yeah, it is PIS. It's PIS when the other character acts like a drunkard who is pulling the first punch in his life and doesn't know the meaning of the word "dodge". And he started his way by getting knocked out by Hulk. Glancing blow, even.

he cutted the hulk and wendigo and gave them hard time, why do you think that namor fought like a drank? maybe wolverine was just to fast for him so he couldnt give him more then one punch?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
he cutted the hulk and wendigo and gave them hard time, why do you think that namor fought like a drank? maybe wolverine was just to fast for him so he couldnt give him more then one punch?

Wolverine is not too fast for Namor. Namor has greater speed feats, even. Hulk and Wendigo are veeerry dumb and slow. Namor is VERY fast, VERY skilled and VERY smart. Big difference.

ye but everyone say that its a PIS that wolverine could cut him, where is it stated that namor is faster then wolverine when he is out the water? i dont look on bios i look on facts and the fact is that wolverine was too fast for namor and he gave namor a good beating admit it or not those are facts not some bio

Him cutting Namor is not PIS. Namor not dodging Wolverine is PIS. Namor is fast enough to dodge him.

And who the hell said I am using bios? I'm using COMICS as an evidence. Namor has shown greater speed then he has in his encounters with Wolverine. The writer simply wrote Namor as an idiot.

maybe the times when namor was so fast are fanboy PIS? you know just like you all say that when wolverine fought the hulk was PIS

They are not fanboy PIS, because Namor is that fast for 90% of his comics.

His fights with Wolverine are only 0.000001% of his comic book career. Namor is the first character of Marvel Comics.

ok but wolverine owned him what can you say against that? that namor had itching in his ass during the fight?

by the way, if you go by speed then theres no chance wolverine could ever hit spider-man because he is faster, and yet wolverine took him out now how can that be? maybe speed doesnt matter? skills thats what takes to hit someone

In the old days, Wolverine fighting Hulk wasn't PIS because Wolverine spent his time getting either beaten to a pulp or trying to get away.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
by the way, if you go by speed then theres no chance wolverine could ever hit spider-man because he is faster, and yet wolverine took him out now how can that be? maybe speed doesnt matter? skills thats what takes to hit someone
If we are talking about speed HOW THE FCUK was wolverine able to catch a bullet fired from a sniper rifle with 2 fingers???????????????????

let me explain to you all one thing, i am new here and i am not going to go " all i am so smart i will teach you all" thing, but listen people, there isnt such thing as bad writing because you got nothing to compare it to in the first place, you see lets start from the fact that all that the comics universe is its just a writing, so whatever the writers write counts, who said that they supose to have lets say better speed? some writer shows he is fast the other shows that he is not, how do you decide? by what ever you want it to be? if the comics was writen about a real person then you could compare that and say.... wait a minute he is not that fast or strong, but a comics character its a writers imagination already so whatever he writes count

Originally posted by wolvertooth
let me explain to you all one thing, i am new here and i am not going to go " all i am so smart i will teach you all" thing, but listen people, there isnt such thing as bad writing because you got nothing to compare it to in the first place, you see lets start from the fact that all that the comics universe is its just a writing, so whatever the writers write counts, who said that they supose to have lets say better speed? some writer shows he is fast the other shows that he is not, how do you decide? by what ever you want it to be? if the comics was writen about a real person then you could compare that and say.... wait a minute he is not that fast or strong, but a comics character its a writers imagination already so whatever he writes count

We go by majority of appearences. If a character can fly with the speed of sound 99% of his comic career, but in one or two instances he can't, then we go by majority of his appearences.

Not everything that writers write count. I'd advise you to read the rules.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308157.html

agreed cause one of the superman issues doomsday was able to fire blast from his mouth but only in 1 issue and all the other issues he was neve able to fire blast from his mouth so that doesn't count

ok, i know this has been argued to death but i wil put in my 2 cents then leave it alone. wolverine catching a bullet (not the darkness bullets) would not be PIS, not because he is fast enough to catch a bullet, but because, if he sees where it's going, he can put his hand in the way, the bullet bouces off the ad. skeleton of his, and it would appear he caught it. i haven't read wolverine/darkness (hopefuly someone will post feats/scans of the whole thing) but i'm pretty sure him catching those kinds of bullets, are pure PIS, just for the hell of storyline, just like him not getting curbstomped by darkness in the first place. i won't turn this into a Spidey's speed vs. Wolvie's speed disscusion as some of you will call me biased/whatever.

There, i stated my case, i'm done.

Darkness bullets are nothing special it is the feat that he catches it while it is fired from a sniper rifle

Originally posted by wolvertooth
he cutted the hulk and wendigo and gave them hard time, why do you think that namor fought like a drank? maybe wolverine was just to fast for him so he couldnt give him more then one punch?

First, if you go back and read his first apperence, he couldnt cut the Hulk

Second, Namor is faster than the Torch

Torch's speed >>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine's Speed

Last, Hulk's durability isnt very high until he gets very angry. So its not that hard to cut him considering he just has tough skin

Originally posted by Grimm22
Pretty much.

I guess Wolverine could catch a bullet, if he knew where it was going and whatnot. However he isnt anywhere near the speed of the bullet
Yeah the funny thing is when he got shot he didn't know where the bullet was coming from since he didn't know that he was aimed at

The NEW and improved Wolverine:

Originally posted by Zahit
The NEW and improved Wolverine:

Jesus > x-infinite Wolverine

Wolverine: Hey Bub, I dont believe in you

Jesus: Well thats too bad, because I believe in you

Wolverine: Yar, im gonna stab you now!

*Jesus stops im in thin air*

Jesus: Im not going to fight you

Wolverine: Nothing can stop me! IM WOLVERINE!

Jesus: *Sigh*

"Snaps his fingers"

*Wolverine turns into a rock*

Anyone has scans of the Wolverine/Darkness issue?

I have the whole issue ill post it in darkness respect thread tomorrow thank to god it is not cannon since wolvie having a chance against darkness???? Pffft

post some now!!!....dam i wanna see it.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I have the whole issue ill post it in darkness respect thread tomorrow thank to god it is not cannon since wolvie having a chance against darkness???? Pffft

It was actually a good story

Its just too bad that Wolverine somehow defeated a small army of demons somehow?!?

The story wasn't bad funny thing is that darkness creatures can rip the skin off from a man in seconds and these are the smaller guys

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/595/darknessvampirellav1118gsetilk2.th.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5022/darknessvampirellav1119gsetito9.th.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7041/darknessvampirellav1120gsetigh0.th.jpg
second thing is that since they are a part of Jackie they also have instant healing factor so cutting them in half will just make them laugh
just like here one of them supposed to be killed cause a knife gets thrown through his head on the other scan he is laughing at it

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7867/thedarkness18p16oy6.th.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9863/thedarkness18p17ky8.th.jpg

Originally posted by Creshosk
So if you think Namor can beat Spiderman you're a Wolverine fanboy? I don't go around arguing against Spiderman in every thread either. Just because, for its own sake you know?