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In 'Pocahontas',the racoon gives her the compass and it points towards her dream...John Smith.

In 'Pirates',Liz has the compass and it points towards Jack.

Anybody else notice this?

heehee, yes!!! i support this thread. i totally love that connection. hahaha.

there are a TON of references to other disney films in this series...

I was just watching that clip from Pocahontas and I said 'THAT HAPPENS IN PIRATES!! I HAVE TO TELL EVERYONE!!' So...I did.

hahha well very good observation! Do you think Disney did this on purpose. or was it just a coincidence?

Maybe it was a coincidence.

Yeah i think it is. If it was on purpose then there would probably be ALOT more things related to other Disney movies.

Ye never know...there could be others out there.

I hate that movie

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I love that movie! but i just love ALL disney movies......they bring back memories from when i was rele little

The lion King totally rules

DUH! its only like one of the best disney movies out there!

Aladdin is my fav disney animated movie

little mermaid WOOT!

Originally posted by LovelyOne
The lion King totally rules

I've got lovely bunch of coconuts*diddly-dee* All standing in a row*bumbumbum*Big ones small ones,.. some as big as your head,...
I had to post that!!

Uhhhh.I didn't actually want this to get off topic...'cause I knew it would...

Its from the Lion King!!!! Plus,... you do have a point with the compass,... and the raccoon is Meko.

sorry...um woo...compass....ain't it funny

??* my with a clueless face*

..I was wondering what was the racoons name...haven't seen it for YEARS!!!

This song reminds me of Liz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZFy8vwd0Kg

meeko

sorry,... meant that!

aladdin is HOTT.

and Captain Hook from the 2003 live-action Peter Pan comes in 2nd on my list of hottest pirates.

kate,.. you are crazy! But Aladdin was hot,.... sccch you are right!

What am I right about??

the song!

Oh,yeah...It's like Liz trying to decide about if she should go with Will(Steady) or Jack (Wild).

Putting it that way,... In Pochahantess(SP?) she goes with wild,.. Hmmm I wonder,....

actually....kokukum = norrington...smith = will and crap....the guy she acually marries...it's john something...cripes.....any who that = jack

smith is john,.. John Smith exactly

no...there's another guy besides john smith....the one she actually marry's.....it's john something...gah...i know that in the second movie he was played by billy zane....

OOOHHHH the second movie,.. It was John Ralf,.. I think,.. and she married him?? I'd go with Smith!

yeah that sounds right....well there's only so much disney can do to change actual history

??? All I know is that Pochahontess(SP?) Christian/ English name is Rebecca,. My name!!!

ja....well you know more than some...most i don't know...but that's a good piece of trivia right there

lol

So,with these little bits of info,the question is Lizz=Jack? or Will?

(Goes off to look for more clues from other movies)

lol,.. well,.. i can't look tonight,.. i'm going to the irvine spectrum,..

I thought John Rolf was a pansy when I saw it, so I would have compared him to Will.
Of course, real life is another story, but John Smith in the Disney version has Jack's spirit.

ya!

But seriously, John Smith compared to the Beast. He was my guy

Soooooooo......did I make a good observasion?

My favorite animated Disney movie is "Beauty and The Beast"....it is full of great music and a great plot and wonderful characters....just love it.

Originally posted by diddly-dum
OOOHHHH the second movie,.. It was John Ralf,.. I think,.. and she married him?? I'd go with Smith!

She sails off with John Rolfe back to America....she finds John Smith. Rolfe thinks she'll go back to her first love, John Smith...but she and John Smith realize they have grown in different directions and she realizes she really loves John Rolfe....so see....Disney movies can have their lead ladies end up with someone other than their first love....so...all those who think it has to be Will cuz it's a Disney movie...well, not necessarily....

I know they couldn't change history...but come one it was an animated movie...they could have just had her stay with John Smith...but I do agree that he is more like Jack...John Rolfe was more boring like Will.

Originally posted by sccch
Soooooooo......did I make a good observasion?

yes you did!

"I know they couldn't change history...but come one it was an animated movie...they could have just had her stay with John Smith...but I do agree that he is more like Jack...John Rolfe was more boring like Will."-----Lovethemtigers

They changed history all the time in Pocahontas. Her biography says she was only about 12, 14 at the most, when 27 year old John Smith came to the village and she was probably not the daughter of the chief but a priestess in training and any of the priestesses could have chosen to save Smith, but it was Pocahontas who chose to and because it was her, they put him in her care and that's how he picked up the language.
They were never romantically linked (at least not according to anything historians have found yet). When he went back to England, tension escalated between the settlers and the tribe and Pocahontas was taken hostage where she either voluntarily or was forced into changing her name to Rebecca and being baptized into the Christian faith. John Rolf was huge in the tobacco business and when he married Pocahontas, they were mega-rich landowners that supplied England with tobacco. She went to England and found Smith alive, but she was already married and on the way back to America, she died of mysterious causes.

Think Liz as Pocahontas in this vid. Especially watch it around the 2 minute mark!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysiBfvIqW2I

yeah! that compass thing was a very good observation!

Originally posted by willofthewisp
But seriously, John Smith compared to the Beast. He was my guy
glad to say when I saw Beauty and the Beast at the Redlands Bowl,.. I know who played the beast,.. nice guy in fact!

Yeah, for some strange reason, he beat out all the human Disney guys imo. I kind of thought Phoebus from The Hunchback of Notre Dame was cool, and I thought John Smith was great too, but it's the Beast guys. Watch the movie and tell me you don't want him.

ok someone please refresh my mind of pocahontas compass watever it is. ive only seen the movie once

Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysiBfvIqW2I
Watch around the 2 minute mark.

Meeko (Pocahontas' raccoon friend) steals John Smith's compass and he tells her it "finds your way when you get lost." She has a dream throughout the movie she can't figure out where she sees an arrow and it spins, but she wakes up before she knows what it was pointing to. The compass eventually points her in the direction she needs to run to get to John Smith in time before her dad kills him, so the compass is pointing to who she wants.

Just like in PotC DMC.

i love Pocahontas. i remember when i was like 6 or 7 and i was obsessed with the movie.....
anyways, about all this changing history stuff.....you know how pocahontas has the best hair out of all the disney movie princesses/girls(i think so)?
according to my social studies book from about 3 yrs ago, pochahontas wasn't only VERY young, but she was also bald.

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what?

Bald?

yeah. in 6th or 7th grade i learned that.
the book said she was a young girl, about age ten, who was bald and not as beautiful as the movie made her out to be.
well, the book didnt say anything about the movie, but they didnt say she was pretty, so i added the movie part.

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SOOO.....yea no comment...lalala

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im just amking faces im so tired...im taking a break from studying uhg

making** damn my typos!

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*logs off computer and smacks head on wall. Comes bck and logs on*
What I miss?

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Originally posted by diddly-dum
*logs off computer and smacks head on wall. Comes back and logs on*
What I miss?

also in the fist poct movie jack said his name was smith

I forgot about that!

And Jack is sometimes a nickname for John, so is his birthname John Smith? That would be a little too weird.

i think that's stretching it

lol, had to have a little fun.

yeah