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i am really glad that the writers finally shows wolverines skills, untill wolverine origins came out and the recent wolverine issues all they showed is how cool wolverines healing factor is, look how he can heal while he gets beated, well finally they focuse on his fighting skills like the fight against captain america and namor, great job people glad you didnt forget that even if wolverine got a lot of fance its still doesnt mean that you can trash him

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Originally posted by wolvertooth
i am really glad that the writers finally shows wolverines skills, untill wolverine origins came out and the recent wolverine issues all they showed is how cool wolverines healing factor is, look how he can heal while he gets beated, well finally they focuse on his fighting skills like the fight against captain america and namor, great job people glad you didnt forget that even if wolverine got a lot of fance its still doesnt mean that you can trash him

When he goes and holds his own against Namor, he deserves a trashing...

and thats strange? he can fight the hulk, wendigo,roughouse,sesquatch,iron-man,spider-man ..... but beating namor is unreal? why is that? just because namor can lift more weight? wolverine cant cutt him with adamentium claws? or put him down with a roll kick to his legs?

It's unreal because Namor doesn't fight like he fights 99% of the time when he fights Wolverine. Writers make Namor weaker in order to give Wolverine a chance. And Namor is every bit as fast, most likely faster then Wolverine. Then there is the MASSIVE strength advantage.

Ok.... who the feck is socking with this crap? The recent Wolverine comics have been utter sh!te (feat-wise) and have been spitting in the face of continuity .... the guy freakin regenerated from a skeleton in a matter of minutes (or less) .... I have Wolverine comics that have him taking an entire issue or more to recover from having his guts slashed open..... and it took him about 5 issues to regrow the eye that Mauvis ate

Total PIS & CIS on the part of his writers recently

who said that he is faster then wolverine out the water? the facts are that he wasnt fast anough thats why wolverine sttubed him end of story

Originally posted by wolvertooth
and thats strange? he can fight the hulk, wendigo,roughouse,sesquatch,iron-man,spider-man ..... but beating namor is unreal? why is that? just because namor can lift more weight? wolverine cant cutt him with adamentium claws? or put him down with a roll kick to his legs?

He isn't on the level of any of those (even spidey is above him imo), his powerset shouldnt allow him within 50 feet of any of those guys...

Originally posted by wolvertooth
who said that he is faster then wolverine out the water? the facts are that he wasnt fast anough thats why wolverine sttubed him end of story He is fast enough. The writer just didn't know jack shit about Namor.

End of story.

Don't make me pull out my scans.

oh come on , the writers dont know anything about comics but you know better then them right? you know better that namor is faster on the land then wolverine and speed isnt everything, skills thats what takes it, wolverine was fast and moved with skills that was too much for namor , what scans are you going to show me? how can you tell me that namor is faster if its already proven that wolverine was faster and better, speed doesnt take it all like i sayed skills and right movement is also importent, so no matter what jelped wolverine he ownrd namor end of story its a true comics , now show me scans where nemor is faster then wolverine or can beat him

Originally posted by wolvertooth
oh come on , the writers dont know anything about comics but you know better then them right? you know better that namor is faster on the land then wolverine and speed isnt everything, skills thats what takes it, wolverine was fast and moved with skills that was too much for namor , what scans are you going to show me? how can you tell me that namor is faster if its already proven that wolverine was faster and better, speed doesnt take it all like i sayed skills and right movement is also importent, so no matter what jelped wolverine he ownrd namor end of story its a true comics , now show me scans where nemor is faster then wolverine or can beat him

if decades of namor comics say he is fast enough, and the one where he fights wolverine doesn't, which one is right?

all i know is wolverine owned him and thats a real issue , you got a solid prove for that but you just wont admit it , just not wolverine , if it was spider-man that was cool with you all , but just not wolverine, you got it black on white wolverine owned namor thats it

...Yes, I DO know more about comics then the guy who wrote Wolverine #45.

For example, he had Nitro be in pain by things like cutting his hand off, even though he can explode his body and reform at will with no pain. His showing in Wolverine #45 was PIS. Plain and simple.

If I'd show you an comic where it would took Wolverine four years to heal one eye, even though in the past it has taken him like four minutes to heal an eye, would you accept it as evidence or bad writing?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
all i know is wolverine owned him and thats a real issue , you got a solid prove for that but you just wont admit it , just not wolverine , if it was spider-man that was cool with you all , but just not wolverine, you got it black on white wolverine owned namor thats it

Yeah he did. He owned Namor who fought like an idiot and didn't use his full speed or strength.

Not Namor who is in his full senses.

i say that for wolverine to heal 4 years now that a real PIS!!!

WOLVERINE WAS TOO FAST FOR NAMOR SO NAMOR LOOKED LIKE AN IDIOT , ITS NOT NAMOR ITS WOLVERINE BUB

Originally posted by wolvertooth
i say that for wolverine to heal 4 years now that a real PIS!!!
And for Namor not being able to dodge Wolverine although he has dodged faster things in past...

And for Namor to fight like an idiot, even though he has decade of experience as the supreme commander of an warrior kingdom...

And for Namor not being able to knock out Wolverine, even though he has knocked out the HULK...

Now that's PIS.

HE DID KNOCKED WOLVERINE ONLY FROM BEHING AFTER WOLVERINE TOOK OUT HIS GUARD, EVEN IF HE CAN KNOCK WOLVERINE OUT HE NEEDS TO HIT HIM FIRST AND HE WASNT FAST ENOUGH TO DO IT FACE TO FACE ONLY BEHING WOLVERINE WITH A CHEAP SHOT

Originally posted by wolvertooth
all i know is wolverine owned him and thats a real issue , you got a solid prove for that but you just wont admit it , just not wolverine , if it was spider-man that was cool with you all , but just not wolverine, you got it black on white wolverine owned namor thats it

You cant take every issue as being done well... some are incredibly badly written and inaccurate...

how do you know its badly writen? just because its not the way you want it to be? maybe the ones where they are all super and buffed and badly writen?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
how do you know its badly writen? just because its not the way you want it to be? maybe the ones where they are all super and buffed and badly writen?

It has NOTHING to do with how I want it, its to do with consistency...

CYCLOPS has taken down Logan, TWICE...

Namor would scrape Cyclops off his boot...

No, he wasn't written as fast enough. He IS fast enough, the writer just wrote him off as slow idiot. Namor doesn't fight like he fought in that comic in most of his showings. Any of this getting through your thick adamantium skull? And honestly...CAPS LOCK...the mark of frustration and inability to defend yourself with coherent sentences...Its this easy to get you to the edge? What it's been, like twenty minutes?

Let me put it again. Use magnifying glass and an dictionary, it probably helps.

Namor has speed feats that show that he is fast enough to dodge Wolverine.

He's done stuff like dodge invisible attacks going with the speed of sound, catched missiles that go more then twice the speed of sound, jumped from meteor to meteor, and meteors go more then fifty times of speed of sound, hes carved an statue in a second, dodged bullets while doing something else, dodged lasers while being weak to the point of fainting, etc. He's done feats like this for the most of his career.

But,

The writer did not write him to be at those speeds. Why? Because Wolverine needed to have a chance. If Namor was fighting with his full speed, full fighting techniques, and not holding back his strength, the fight would have been over in a second.

Why didn't he? Because Marvel needs to sell comic books. If Namor would have defeated Wolverine in a second (Like an all-out Namor would have) little fanboys would not buy Wolverine anymore. The word would spread around, and Wolverine would sell bad.

So, in order to have Wolverine last the fight, our brave (and I mean stupid) writer had Namor use 0.002 percent of his speed and 0.00004 percent of his brain capacity. Because then Logan would have a chance.

So, to put short...

Namor did not use his full speed or fighting skills in that fight. If he would have, he would have dodged Logan. Because Namor is fast enough to do that. He is written with those speeds majority of his career. But in this fight he was not. Thus, when a character is portrayed weaker then he has been before, it is PIS.

Like the whole Wolverine growing his eye in four years incident. Majority of the time, he needs far less time. So, if Wolverine was written like that, it would be PIS.

Got it?

the only one who is frustraited is you who cant talk clean so start with the good'ol trash talking i will say it the last time and wont say anything anymore, WOLVERINE OWNED NAMOR LIKE IT OR NOT

And I don't say that it didn't happen. He owned Namor, yes, but he only owned Namor who fought like an idiot and didn't use 99% of his capablities. He didn't own Namor who fights smart. It's the same as I would own Muhammed Ali...when he is in the hospital, in coma. It's the same as I'd shoot powerless Wolverine who is tied in chair. Did I own him? Yes. Did I own Wolverine who is like he normally is? NO.

And you won't say anything anymore?

That's called giving up, chump.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
the only one who is frustraited is you who cant talk clean so start with the good'ol trash talking i will say it the last time and wont say anything anymore, WOLVERINE OWNED NAMOR LIKE IT OR NOT

Cyclops owning Logan...

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/pr1983/images/claws1.jpg

So does this mean Cyke could take Namor?

..................david_richards?

first of all wolverine did took out namor and how do you know namor didnt have his skills there? wolverine just had much better speed and skills and dont give me the bullshit that namor have a better skills too, wolverine made your namor look like a buffon not my foult sorry, cyclops owned wolverine? how many times did wolverine owned cyclops? captain america owned spider-man too, so? captain america can beat anyone that spider-man can?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all wolverine did took out namor and how do you know namor didnt have his skills there? wolverine just had much better speed and skills and dont give me the bullshit that namor have a better skills too, wolverine made your namor look like a buffon not my foult sorry, cyclops owned wolverine? how many times did wolverine owned cyclops? captain america owned spider-man too, so? captain america can beat anyone that spider-man can?


how many times did Wolverine own cyclops?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all wolverine did took out namor and how do you know namor didnt have his skills there? wolverine just had much better speed and skills and dont give me the bullshit that namor have a better skills too, wolverine made your namor look like a buffon not my foult sorry, cyclops owned wolverine? how many times did wolverine owned cyclops? captain america owned spider-man too, so? captain america can beat anyone that spider-man can?

Wolverine has only ever had superiority over Cyclops ONCE... in ultimate x-men... and not long after, cyclops put him down with one blast...

well wjen wolverine beat the crap out of him in h2h , or when in the uncanny wolverine fought him and cutted him , almost everytime jeen saved cyclops from wolverine

and you know as well as i that once they fight to the end only wolverine will left standing so please

Originally posted by wolvertooth
well wjen wolverine beat the crap out of him in h2h , or when in the uncanny wolverine fought him and cutted him , almost everytime jeen saved cyclops from wolverine

gimme an issue number... please...

he beat cyclops h2h in ultimate, in uncanny i dont remember the issue its when they were fighting in the danger room and wolverine cut him, listen i say cyclops is a great fighter, but wolverine got the skills over him and ofcourse healing factor, if wolverine comes close to cyclops he kills him, but cyclops cant kill him

Originally posted by wolvertooth
he beat cyclops h2h in ultimate, in uncanny i dont remember the issue its when they were fighting in the danger room and wolverine cut him, listen i say cyclops is a great fighter, but wolverine got the skills over him and ofcourse healing factor, if wolverine comes close to cyclops he kills him, but cyclops cant kill him

I just posted a scan where cyclops schools him...

if logan cut cyclops he would most likely nearly kill him...

ultimate was once, and it was a low blow...

h2h cyke has held his own against logan...

only once and thats it, listen cyclops can knock wolverine out yes he can take him but not kill him if they fight to the end wolverine takes it all , he got much more fighting skills too , but if it wasnt the healing factor cyclops takes this

Lets not forget that Wolverine could never beat Cyclops in the one place that really matters....the bedroom, or alteast so it would seem since Jean would never pick Logan over Scott, and anyone who could get Emma is a flatout pimp.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
only once and thats it, listen cyclops can knock wolverine out yes he can take him but not kill him if they fight to the end wolverine takes it all , he got much more fighting skills too , but if it wasnt the healing factor cyclops takes this

all cyclops needs is his powers, and he'd wipe the floor with logan... unless cyclops goes all spastic like namor did...

Originally posted by wuTa
Lets not forget that Wolverine could never beat Cyclops in the one place that really matters....the bedroom, or alteast so it would seem since Jean would never pick Logan over Scott, and anyone who could get Emma is a flatout pimp.

Lol, ye cyclops beat wolverine in that,but hey wolverine have a healing factor he can last more in bad

This thread is ridiculous.

Great another Wolveirne fanboy.

If you want a great Wolverine story you have to go back to the 80's or before that, because thats before Marvel ruined the character and made him a cashcow

If thats was the case, I'm sure he would have easily stolen Jean from Cyclops

Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all wolverine did took out namor and how do you know namor didnt have his skills there? wolverine just had much better speed and skills and dont give me the bullshit that namor have a better skills too, wolverine made your namor look like a buffon not my foult sorry, cyclops owned wolverine? how many times did wolverine owned cyclops? captain america owned spider-man too, so? captain america can beat anyone that spider-man can?

How do I know that Namor did not have his skills and speed there?

BECAUSE HE DID NOT USE THEM.

Have you even read the comic we are talking about?

Honestly, the new writer for Wolverine is a fanboy

Just read his excuse for Wolverine's ridiculous healing feats

yes, and wolverine brought namor down with a kick to his legs, and he stabed him with his claws, and namors guard tried to attack wolverine and wolverine owned him too, and then namor gave wolverine a blow from behing, and underwater wolverine punched him with iron mans armor,dont know i say he isnt fast enough, its not that namor didnt have his skills its just that wolverine had much better skills that made namor look like a child, now if you are going to blaim the writers alright, wolverine just had better skills

Originally posted by wolvertooth
yes, and wolverine brought namor down with a kick to his legs, and he stabed him with his claws, and namors guard tried to attack wolverine and wolverine owned him too, and then namor gave wolverine a blow from behing, and underwater wolverine punched him with iron mans armor,dont know i say he isnt fast enough, its not that namor didnt have his skills its just that wolverine had much better skills that made namor look like a child, now if you are going to blaim the writers alright, wolverine just had better skills

Dear god, do you even know who Namor is?

He has KO'ed guys like Hulk, Thing, Iron Man.

He is faster, stronger, tougher, smarter, ect... than Wolverine is.

Wolverine even trying to fight him is a joke

how do you know what are the limits of wolverines healing factor? was it stated anywhere? then how do you know that he cant regenerate from a cell? and why cant his skull protect his brain? give me a reason while the skull protect it the healing factor heal the small damage

stronger faster? wolverine is known for beating characters that are much stronger then him

Originally posted by wolvertooth
yes, and wolverine brought namor down with a kick to his legs, and he stabed him with his claws, and namors guard tried to attack wolverine and wolverine owned him too, and then namor gave wolverine a blow from behing, and underwater wolverine punched him with iron mans armor,dont know i say he isnt fast enough, its not that namor didnt have his skills its just that wolverine had much better skills that made namor look like a child, now if you are going to blaim the writers alright, wolverine just had better skills

Err, no. Namor did not display any skills or speed there. He was simply punching him slowly and wasn't even attempting to dodge. Wolverine brought Namor down because Namor was fighting like an idiot. Wolverine stabbed him because he was fighting like an idiot.

Again, did you read the comic?

And seeing as Namor has shown to be faster then IRON MAN himself in a new armor, how the hell do you think that Wolverine could hit him with an armor that is years old? If you are trying to claim that Wolverine is faster then Namor UNDERWATER, you are even more crazy then I thought.

wolverine took thing out too so

ne wolverine hitting namor underwater with a metal armor on him thats stupid yes, but when they fought outwater its just seems wolverine had the better skills and speed and react

Originally posted by Grimm22
Honestly, the new writer for Wolverine is a fanboy

Just read his excuse for Wolverine's ridiculous healing feats
Did that guy even know Logan regenrated from a single cell with the help of magic?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
ne wolverine hitting namor underwater with a metal armor on him thats stupid yes, but when they fought outwater its just seems wolverine had the better skills and speed and react

wolverine beating three atlanteans underwater in a suite of armor which he even said was hard to control is not stupid.


it's retarded.

underwater yes, but out the water he did a great job, alright i will be going now had fun to hear your thoughts and see your points of view and glad to goin the community see you later

Originally posted by wolvertooth
wolverine took thing out too so

Enemy of the State = Complete Crap, if thats what you're referring to

Oh and the face slashing scene, Ben wasnt fighting Wolverine there, he was just trying to have him stop fighting. Wolverine was in Beserker Rage, so he didnt know what he was doing.

Oh and Ben KO'ed Wolverine with one hit in the X-men vs FF crossover, before Wolverine got a jobber aura

Originally posted by Black Adam
wolverine beating three atlanteans underwater in a suite of armor which he even said was hard to control is not stupid.


it's retarded.

Especially considering that Namor took down Extremis Iron Man underwater

Originally posted by Grimm22
Enemy of the State = Complete Crap, if thats what you're referring to

Oh and the face slashing scene, Ben wasnt fighting Wolverine there, he was just trying to have him stop fighting. Wolverine was in Beserker Rage, so he didnt know what he was doing.

Oh and Ben KO'ed Wolverine with one hit in the X-men vs FF crossover, before Wolverine got a jobber aura I think I have this issue. Isn't that where wolverine slashed thing but stopped to help him only to get hit full force.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
underwater yes, but out the water he did a great job, alright i will be going now had fun to hear your thoughts and see your points of view and glad to goin the community see you later

your lord calls you:

Originally posted by pr1983
When he goes and holds his own against Namor, he deserves a trashing... he's done it everytime they've fought..


maybe.. just maybe marvel's trying to say something there...

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I think I have this issue. Isn't that where wolverine slashed thing but stopped to help him only to get hit full force.

Yeah and Ben backslaps the canadian through about 10 buildings.

Of course the artist forgot that and drew him in the last page which makes no sense.

Originally posted by Grimm22
Enemy of the State = Complete Crap, if thats what you're referring to yet you've said that that's what you base your wolverine showings off of..

Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and the face slashing scene, Ben wasnt fighting Wolverine there, he was just trying to have him stop fighting. Wolverine was in Beserker Rage, so he didnt know what he was doing. bullshit.. he knew fully well what he was doing he was just pissed.. he wasn't in the berserker ape mind rage that he usually gets when he's getting his rage on....

Originally posted by Grimm22
Oh and Ben KO'ed Wolverine with one hit in the X-men vs FF crossover, before Wolverine got a jobber aura while wolvie was already fritzed out.. as stated..

Originally posted by Grimm22
Yeah and Ben backslaps the canadian through about 10 buildings.

Of course the artist forgot that and drew him in the last page which makes no sense. If I remember correctly, doesn't he get right up?

Originally posted by jinzin
yet you've said that that's what you base your wolverine showings off of..

bullshit.. he knew fully well what he was doing he was just pissed.. he wasn't in the berserker ape mind rage that he usually gets when he's getting his rage on....

while wolvie was already fritzed out.. as stated..

I USED to base Wolverine off of that. Then I read classic xmen and Wolverine stories and realized that he was a good character before he was turned into crap.

Read the comic. It even says that Wolverine is relieing competely on animal instinct

They said they're going to explain how Wolverine survived lots of things.. Well, IMO it's rather obvious that he's using the same stuff Nitro's using to amplify his powers.. This would explain why he's fast enough to hit Namor etc.. But then, the writer seems to be pretty stupid.. IMO Wolverine could hold his own against Namor for a time, but beating him wouldn't be so simple.

I've recently noticed something about Wolverine fans on the forum. Every time someone starts a Wolverine vs thread, his fans always give 1 of 2 responses, the first response is of course that Wolverine wins. The second response is that it a spite thread. WTF is up with that. Why is there never any middle ground when it comes to Wolverine? Why can his fans never say that it would be a good fight, but his opponent takes the majority?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I've recently noticed something about Wolverine fans on the forum. Every time someone starts a Wolverine vs thread, his fans always give 1 of 2 responses, the first response is of course that Wolverine wins. The second response is that it a spite thread. WTF is up with that. Why is there never any middle ground when it comes to Wolverine? Why can his fans never say that it would be a good fight, but his opponent takes the majority? Dude are you kidding I have seen Darkseid vs Wolverine and Wolverine vs the Living Tribunal on the forums last week. You mean to tell me thats not spite.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
how do you know what are the limits of wolverines healing factor? was it stated anywhere? then how do you know that he cant regenerate from a cell? and why cant his skull protect his brain? give me a reason while the skull protect it the healing factor heal the small damage
His skull can't protect his brain like that for two very simple reasons. The first reason is that the adamantium is metal, and metal can be heated. If he were that close, his skull would be so hot that the heat coming off of IT, would melt Wolverines brain. Now if you want to ignore that and say, "Well it's adamantium, maybe it doesn't heat up like other metals!", there's STILL one very big problem, THERE ARE HOLES IN HIS SKULL!The heat and explosive force should have traveled through his eye holes, and destroyed anything remotely resembling brain tissue. So there you go not one, but two reasons, that type of thing is BS by any, non fanboy standards.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Dude are you kidding I have seen Darkseid vs Wolverine and Wolverine vs the Living Tribunal on the forums last week. You mean to tell me thats not spite.
Yes, those ARE spite, but the fact remains that spite threads are the only one's that Wolverine fans will admit that he loses.

There are Wolverine fans and there are Wolverine fanboys.

Sadly there are little fans, but a ton of fanboys

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He is fast enough. The writer just didn't know jack shit about Namor.

End of story.

Don't make me pull out my scans.

Give me a high 5 on that Shit Darkcrawler!

Originally posted by wolvertooth
yes, and wolverine brought namor down with a kick to his legs, and he stabed him with his claws, and namors guard tried to attack wolverine and wolverine owned him too, and then namor gave wolverine a blow from behing, and underwater wolverine punched him with iron mans armor,dont know i say he isnt fast enough, its not that namor didnt have his skills its just that wolverine had much better skills that made namor look like a child, now if you are going to blaim the writers alright, wolverine just had better skills



Namor owns Wolverine, Wolverine looses to Namor anytime the writing is utter shit.

first of all in x-men vs ff #2 wolverine puts thing down with a kick , so if you already bring x-men vs ff wolverine kicked thing and was on him, enemy of state is a crap? why? because it shows wolverine taking thing out? what maked you think that adamentium claws cant stub a rock? if he can cut sentinal and metal with it, yes adamentium may be heated but the brain will be damaged slow and guess what? he got a healing factor that can heal him, you know what i hate about wolverines haters? they always forget that he can heal, so if the skull is heated and the brain starts to melt slowly his healing factor will deal with it , namor owns wolverine? thats why theres a big ass comics that shows wolverine giving him a beating but hey you know better then the writers you write about marvel characters all the time

Originally posted by jinzin
he's done it everytime they've fought..


maybe.. just maybe marvel's trying to say something there...
That Namor's more of a dumbass than we think he is?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all in x-men vs ff #2 wolverine puts thing down with a kick , so if you already bring x-men vs ff wolverine kicked thing and was on him, enemy of state is a crap? why? because it shows wolverine taking thing out? what maked you think that adamentium claws cant stub a rock? if he can cut sentinal and metal with it, yes adamentium may be heated but the brain will be damaged slow and guess what? he got a healing factor that can heal him, you know what i hate about wolverines haters? they always forget that he can heal, so if the skull is heated and the brain starts to melt slowly his healing factor will deal with it , namor owns wolverine? thats why theres a big ass comics that shows wolverine giving him a beating but hey you know better then the writers you write about marvel characters all the time
You still havn't addressed the eye socket issue.

Originally posted by Accel
That Namor's more of a dumbass than we think he is?

remind me the issue please

i dont understand why do you hate wolverine so much and always make fun of him....its a fictional character sue him

Originally posted by wolvertooth
first of all in x-men vs ff #2 wolverine puts thing down with a kick , so if you already bring x-men vs ff wolverine kicked thing and was on him, enemy of state is a crap? why? because it shows wolverine taking thing out? what maked you think that adamentium claws cant stub a rock? if he can cut sentinal and metal with it, yes adamentium may be heated but the brain will be damaged slow and guess what? he got a healing factor that can heal him, you know what i hate about wolverines haters? they always forget that he can heal, so if the skull is heated and the brain starts to melt slowly his healing factor will deal with it , namor owns wolverine? thats why theres a big ass comics that shows wolverine giving him a beating but hey you know better then the writers you write about marvel characters all the time

Wolverine, is what i call, SHIT.

Dude Wolverine probably can't even lift a car or a bus.

Wolverine only beat Namor so people carry on liking him until the film comes out, DEAL WITH IT.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
i dont understand why do you hate wolverine so much and always make fun of him....its a fictional character sue him
we don't make fun of him.........we make fun of his fanboys.

like you.

Originally posted by Zahit
we don't make fun of him.........we make fun of his fanboys.

like you.



Like you.

Damn man you have my respect for 2 words, the simpleness of it is just awesome!

yes wolverine cant lift a car or a bus and your point is? it didnt stop him from beating namor.... or other powerhouses because he doesnt need to lift a bus its not a bodybilder contest all he needs is his deadly skills, his claws that can cut thrue harder matirial then thing and namor and his healing factor, he doesnt need to lift a bus he just need to cut the guts out of his oponnent thats it, so in your opinion who ever can lift more is the strongest? then how the hell captain america took out spider-man , or then again how the hell spider-man took out scorpion, damn by your logic rhino should kick spider-man and half of marvel

Originally posted by wolvertooth
yes wolverine cant lift a car or a bus and your point is? it didnt stop him from beating namor.... or other powerhouses because he doesnt need to lift a bus its not a bodybilder contest all he needs is his deadly skills, his claws that can cut thrue harder matirial then thing and namor and his healing factor, he doesnt need to lift a bus he just need to cut the guts out of his oponnent thats it, so in your opinion who ever can lift more is the strongest? then how the hell captain america took out spider-man , or then again how the hell spider-man took out scorpion, damn by your logic rhino should kick spider-man and half of marvel

You asked me a question then asnwered it, damn n00b.

Namor has x10 better feats.

At the end of the day get a neutral person who knows alot about Namor and Wolverine, WOLVERINE LOOSES.

zahit you call me a fanboy what do you base that on? did i mentioned something that wasnt right? did i said wolverine can take out thor or something? the problem is that you are a wolverine hater and think your on some vendetta against wolverine, burn the infidelt wolverine he destroyed our homes, give me a break

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
Wolverine, is what i call, SHIT.

Dude Wolverine probably can't even lift a car or a bus.

Wolverine only beat Namor so people carry on liking him until the film comes out, DEAL WITH IT.

Wolverine can lift a ton or two.

He's in the same leauge as Captain America in Speed and Strength

Cap is smarter and more skilled though.

But, Wolverine has a healing factor and animal senses

Originally posted by wolvertooth
zahit you call me a fanboy what do you base that on? did i mentioned something that wasnt right? did i said wolverine can take out thor or something? the problem is that you are a wolverine hater and think your on some vendetta against wolverine, burn the infidelt wolverine he destroyed our homes, give me a break

No, you said he could take out Namor...

cap is not smarter nor is he more skilled than logan.. yawn

damnnnn, is this a board or some anti wolverine cult?? you show people a freakin comics that wolverine beat namor and still they call you fanboy and say you dont know anything, well i am done here if this debate got no class then its over

Originally posted by wolvertooth
damnnnn, is this a board or some anti wolverine cult?? you show people a freakin comics that wolverine beat namor and still they call you fanboy and say you dont know anything, well i am done here if this debate got no class then its over
i like wolverine.
he's one of the best characters in comics.
i hate the way marvel has made him inconsistent
and over-powered for the sake of making silly fanboys happy.

like you.

Originally posted by Zahit

like you.



For some reason i find this hilarious stop!

Originally posted by Zahit
i like wolverine.
he's one of the best characters in comics.
i hate the way marvel has made him inconsistent
and over-powered for the sake of making silly fanboys happy.

like you.

Dude thats Superman on your sig. That alone contradicts your entire statement.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Dude thats Superman on your sig. That alone contradicts your entire statement.
how so?

and i am a fanboy because .... oh ye i dont make idiot jokes about wolverine like most the people here? at least i dont have some vendetta against a fiction character if thats a fanboy.... i prefer to be a fanboy rather then some kid that hits his had against wolverines drawings

Originally posted by Zahit

and over-powered for the sake of making silly fanboys happy.




Darkseid
Eradicator
any top tier.

Superman is not exactly in the clear with having PIS fights where others job to him

Originally posted by wolvertooth
i prefer to be a fanboy

we know.

damn you really got a superman sig ..... the almighty superman that no one can beat, and i am a fanboy Lol

i just love when the people that i debate with them start to whine and call names it just shaws that they are frustrated and got nothing to say except..... fanboy.... if you hear the word fanboy that means he gave up Lol

a hate it when ANY character gets overpowered and inconsistently written.
superman included.
however, superman is kryptonian.
he has many powers.

now if only the fanboys can stop pretending wolverine is kryptonian.....

Originally posted by Zahit
a hate it when ANY character gets overpowered and inconsistently written.
superman included.
however, superman is kryptonian.
he has many powers.

now if only the fanboys can stop pretending wolverine is kryptonian.....
Batman should also be there though dude. The inconsistencies with characters is not limited to Wolverine though. Personally I couldn't care less as long as its a good read.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Batman should also be there though dude. The inconsistencies with characters is not limited to Wolverine though. Personally I couldn't care less as long as its a good read.
I said "ANY character....."

You're right. It's not limited to Wolverine.
It's just more blatant and outrageous with him

so a nicely written book where jarvis the butler
takes shots from juggernaut and gets back up
is something that would interest you?

Originally posted by Zahit
I said "ANY character....."

You're right. It's not limited to Wolverine.
It's just more blatant and outrageous with him

so a nicely written book where jarvis the butler
takes shots from juggernaut and gets back up
is something that would interest you?
My point is that I enjoy both the Wolverine and the Superman series. But stuff like Superman wrestling an angel . Even still I liked that arc.

Originally posted by Big Sexy

My point is that I enjoy both the Wolverine and the Superman series. But stuff like Superman wrestling an angel . Even still I liked that arc.
Superman wrestling an angel isn't inconsistent though. The guy has managed to beat everyone put against him.

Who's this guy a sock of?

Originally posted by Validus
Superman wrestling an angel isn't inconsistent though. The guy has managed to beat everyone put against him. How many stories have we seen with Superman, regular, bloodlust, or full bloodlust and beat a guy that at one time he was no match for. Within the last twenty years superman and Darkseid went from
Darkseid own the entire Jla
Darkseid owns Superman
Superman beats Darkeid
Darkseid beats Superman
Superman brutally molests Darkseid


If thats not inconsistent I dont know what is.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
remind me the issue please
The issue I was referring to, was the fact that while Wolverine has an adamantium skull, there are still holes in it where his eyes go.The heat from that explosion would have blown right through his eye sockets and COMPLETELY destroyed his brain. PERIOD. The was one of the biggest examples of BS writing, that has EVER appeared on the pages of a comic book.
And your defending of that kind of writing, is the reason that your be labeled a fanboy. Wolverine should not be capable of MOST of the crap his writers have been trying to pull the past couple of years, including the oh so popular ignoring of Hulks thundercap, which is frequently passed around any time someone brings up the using of a thunderclap on a Wolverine thread(which is ANOTHER thing that Namor should have done during their fight).

Wonder woman have had battles where
Superman barely wins to completely owning WW to not even taking her seriously.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
How many stories have we seen with Superman, regular, bloodlust, or full bloodlust and beat a guy that at one time he was no match for. Within the last twenty years superman and Darkseid went from
Darkseid own the entire Jla
Darkseid owns Superman
Superman beats Darkeid
Darkseid beats Superman
Superman brutally molests Darkseid


If thats not inconsistent I dont know what is.
It's only inconsistant if you know ignore the on panel power ups Superman has received over the years.

And DS hasn't owned the JLA in years.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Wonder woman have had battles where
Superman barely wins to completely owning WW to not even taking her seriously.
Outside of Superman Vs JLA showings, Superman has never treated her as a non threat.

Originally posted by Validus
It's only inconsistant if you know ignore the on panel power ups Superman has received over the years.

And DS hasn't owned the JLA in years. Since he was depowered from COIE the losses should have been worse.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Since he was depowered from COIE the losses should have been worse.
And they were worse right after the Crisis.

Are you reading the stories or just looking at scans in a respect thread?

Originally posted by Validus
And they were worse right after the Crisis.

Are you reading the stories or just looking at scans in a respect thread? Dude hes not at Precrisis levels yet and he still does this.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Dude hes not at Precrisis levels yet and he still does this.
Superman is not Pre-Crisis in the sense that he can't throw planets like baseballs but his combat record is arguably more impressive.

Originally posted by Validus
Superman is not Pre-Crisis in the sense that he can't throw planets like baseballs but his combat record is arguably more impressive.
When was the last time Supes even lost?

My only point to this was that Wolverine is not the only person who has received this treatment throughout the years. Many others have because of their popularity. Personally I like both but I'm not hypocritical enough to completely look down on one and accept another.

Originally posted by Skeets
When was the last time Supes even lost?
Exactly. For all his planet moving feats, PC Supes got his ass handed to him plenty of times. I have a hard time even thinking of the last time current Superman lost a fight. John Stewart in Green Lantern: Rebirth? 2 years ago?

Plus he appears in like 20 comics a month.

Of course there are inconsistencies with different characters.
nobody is denying that.
however, the title of this thread is RECENT WOLVERINE COMICS.
hence, the subject matter is the sucktitude of recent wolverine comics.
if you want to complain about the sucktitude of other titles,
then start another thread.
this one is purely about the cocksuckery of recent wolverine comics.

thank you.

Originally posted by jinzin
cap is not smarter nor is he more skilled than logan.. yawn

Cap is definitly smarter than Logan

Logan isnt dumb or anything like that, but Cap has shown to be on Batman level when it comes to tactitions.

Skills is about even, however i'll give Cap the advantage.

We could debate on this all day, but I would prefer not to.

Originally posted by jinzin
he's done it everytime they've fought..


maybe.. just maybe marvel's trying to say something there...

Is its the same kind of thing they say when they release movies like Daredevil and Fantastic Four?

As for Superman having his ass kicked... Since one year later, he got smacked around by luthor (in his big kryptonian machine) for a while before luckily (and it was lucky) winning the fight... got smacked around in the last issue of Superman too... before one year later? shazam (even when supes was possessed by eclipso and was even more vicious) had him on the ropes, gog killed him, eclipso with the blackrock beat his ass until supergirl bailed him out. Eradicator took him and Superboy down easily, and clearly had the upper hand...

Sure he does well, but even he gets kicked around sometimes... and when was the last time he fought someone who could beat him? The last time he fought Darkseid was ages ago, earth 2 Superman bailed him out in IC against Doomsday, and it took him AND E2 Supes to fight Superboy Prime (after several GL's had softened him up)

At least they dont show him fighting MM and Gl's and beating them with any regularity nowadays... the same can't be said for logan...

I like his recent Astonishing X-Men comics...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I like his recent Astonishing X-Men comics...

As do i... in fact, throughout Astonishing X-Men i thought he was pretty ok...

Originally posted by pr1983
As do i... in fact, throughout Astonishing X-Men i thought he was pretty ok...
Agreed. That's because AXM is the only book devoid of jobber auras.

Originally posted by Validus
Agreed. That's because AXM is the only book devoid of jobber auras.

*touches wood*

and no, not that kind...

let's hope it stays that way...

It's a guy named Wolvertooth.

and he is from Texas.




Just leave him alone....

Originally posted by jinzin
he's done it everytime they've fought..


maybe.. just maybe marvel's trying to say something there...

That Namor holds back against weaker enemies?

Marvel's been saying that since his creation...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I like his recent Astonishing X-Men comics...

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8816/wolverineavatarnp4.gif

so everytime wolverine lost to daredevil or street levelers such as him marvel tried to show that he holds back against them , and wolverine is smarter then captain and got more skills just watch origins , wolverine fought him and injured him the right way so cap couldnt even stand on his feet , wolverine is very smart in fights and what realy made me angry is that in the past couple of years writers always tried to show wolverine as an animal fighter that just jump and tries to cut you like an animal, but finaly they brought back the real wolverine ,the one that had training in martial arts and was trained to think , the writers think that just because wolverine got a lot of fans they can trash him well they are wrong, and avereone that will say wolverine doesnt have that much of skills or not suposed to be trained well then i will tell them to go and read some actual comics about him and not just flame him because its cool here

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I like his recent Astonishing X-Men comics... I think that's where he gets most of his feats from.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
so everytime wolverine lost to daredevil or street levelers such as him marvel tried to show that he holds back against them

If Wolverine was fighting them with less speed, strength and skill then he has displayed in past, he WAS holding back.

who said he wasnt? like the time when daredevil pressed his weak points , wolverine is faster then that he could just cut daredevils hands,he beat shung chi, wolverine is too much skilled to get beat by daredevil or someone his class , now thats what i call PIS,

Originally posted by wolvertooth
who said he wasnt? like the time when daredevil pressed his weak points , wolverine is faster then that he could just cut daredevils hands,he beat shung chi, wolverine is too much skilled to get beat by daredevil or someone his class , now thats what i call PIS,
Wait you accept THAT as PIS, but not the Wolverine/Namor fight?! How does that eve make sense when Daredevil is closer to Wolverine's level, than Wolverine is to Namor's?

you said namor is too fast for wolverine but thats only your opinion, i dont see how wolverine couldnt do whatever he don to namor, knock him off his feet, stub him, who the hell is namor .... he is no tanos, daredevil can give wolverine a fight but hell not to put him out.

by the way you say daredevil is closer to wolverines level? what the hell??? in what only skills? then judjing buy skills wolverine should take namor out easy, wolverine took out thing , held his own against wendigo,beat half marvel heroes in his issues when he was fighting miss marvel human torch and many more he took them out, not just due to his healing factor but due to his deadly skills , ignore it i dont care but thats a fact and thats what helped him to give namor a beating, pure deadly skills

Originally posted by wolvertooth
by the way you say daredevil is closer to wolverines level? what the hell??? in what only skills? then judjing buy skills wolverine should take namor out easy, wolverine took out thing , held his own against wendigo,beat half marvel heroes in his issues when he was fighting miss marvel human torch and many more he took them out, not just due to his healing factor but due to his deadly skills , ignore it i dont care but thats a fact and thats what helped him to give namor a beating, pure deadly skills
Daredevil is closer to Wolverine in strength and speed, both of which Namor COMPLETLY outclasses Wolverine. That's not counting flight and durability(yes I know that Wolverine has the skeleton, but that shouldn't stop Namor from ripping out large chunks of flesh untill that skeleton is all that's left). What are you going to do when Marvel rectons Wolverines healing factor anyway? And you can ignore Dardevil beating Wolverine if you want but it's a fact, just like this....

You see that guy all slumped over, THAT'S Wolverine. And the little guy that just creamed him is about as strong as Spiderman.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
you said namor is too fast for wolverine but thats only your opinion, i dont see how wolverine couldnt do whatever he don to namor, knock him off his feet, stub him, who the hell is namor .... he is no tanos, daredevil can give wolverine a fight but hell not to put him out. I bet you accept Wolverine cutting Thanos as a good source.
Am I right?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Daredevil is closer to Wolverine in strength and speed, both of which Namor COMPLETLY outclasses Wolverine. That's not counting flight and durability(yes I know that Wolverine has the skeleton, but that shouldn't stop Namor from ripping out large chunks of flesh untill that skeleton is all that's left). What are you going to do when Marvel rectons Wolverines healing factor anyway? And you can ignore Dardevil beating Wolverine if you want but it's a fact, just like this....

Thats great

Pft, Wolverine taking punches from Class 100 brawlers my ass

Originally posted by wolvertooth
by the way you say daredevil is closer to wolverines level? what the hell??? in what only skills? then judjing buy skills wolverine should take namor out easy, wolverine took out thing , held his own against wendigo,beat half marvel heroes in his issues when he was fighting miss marvel human torch and many more he took them out, not just due to his healing factor but due to his deadly skills , ignore it i dont care but thats a fact and thats what helped him to give namor a beating, pure deadly skills

No. What helped him defeat all those characters was the fact that they were fighting like idiots and not using half of their powers and skills. If you compare their fights with Wolverine to fights with other characters, you would see that. Why it is that hard to realize this simple thing?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Daredevil is closer to Wolverine in strength and speed, both of which Namor COMPLETLY outclasses Wolverine. That's not counting flight and durability(yes I know that Wolverine has the skeleton, but that shouldn't stop Namor from ripping out large chunks of flesh untill that skeleton is all that's left). What are you going to do when Marvel rectons Wolverines healing factor anyway? And you can ignore Dardevil beating Wolverine if you want but it's a fact, just like this....

namor outclass wolverine in speed? can you prove that? namor can outclass wolverine in fighting skills??? hell no , the fact is that wolverine got a weapon that can hurt namor and together with his skills which are beyond namors he beat him, namor is going to rip wolverines flesh? thats only what you think will happen its only your imagination ( ye and wolverine is going to stand and let namor beat him like that) but i have a solid proofe that wolverine did took namor if it wasnt his guards and then his cheap shot wolverine could kill him, i can go and say that wolverine could cut his throat his arms legs averything just like you imagine things but i stick to the facts, i dont say what i want to happen i say what happened already,the fact is that wolverine got the tools to take namor out, he can stub namor and hurt him why wont he? namor is not so durable and again the fact that namor took blaws doesnt matter that was pressure but wolverine does a penetration he penetrate namor with sharp claws made of adamentium and as you saw he can stub him , so bassically wolverine got the skills over namor, the speed as we saw he stub namor and namor couldnt avoid it and ofcourse he got the weapon to take namor out , i gave you profees all you gave me is your spwculations and please stop with the " but namor is stronger"
thing

Originally posted by bigbran
I bet you accept Wolverine cutting Thanos as a good source.
Am I right?

yes, if the writers of thanos showed you that wolverine can hurt him then maybe (its just a crazy idea) wolverine really can hurt him? i dont know its a real live comics that shows you that wolverine can cut thanos , now you are going to say its a PIS too? those were the writers of thanos themselves already , maybe marvel just want to say that WOLVERINE CAN HURT ALMOST ANYONE? but i guess the writers are wrong because you know much better about the characters that they created , i dont care what you want to believe or what are your speculations, those are facts.... show me facts that say wolverine cant hurt thanos

lol.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
namor outclass wolverine in speed? can you prove that? namor can outclass wolverine in fighting skills??? hell no , the fact is that wolverine got a weapon that can hurt namor and together with his skills which are beyond namors he beat him, namor is going to rip wolverines flesh? thats only what you think will happen its only your imagination ( ye and wolverine is going to stand and let namor beat him like that) but i have a solid proofe that wolverine did took namor if it wasnt his guards and then his cheap shot wolverine could kill him, i can go and say that wolverine could cut his throat his arms legs averything just like you imagine things but i stick to the facts, i dont say what i want to happen i say what happened already,the fact is that wolverine got the tools to take namor out, he can stub namor and hurt him why wont he? namor is not so durable and again the fact that namor took blaws doesnt matter that was pressure but wolverine does a penetration he penetrate namor with sharp claws made of adamentium and as you saw he can stub him , so bassically wolverine got the skills over namor, the speed as we saw he stub namor and namor couldnt avoid it and ofcourse he got the weapon to take namor out , i gave you profees all you gave me is your spwculations and please stop with the " but namor is stronger"
thing Punctuation and spellcheck are your friends. Why do you have to brutalize them?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
namor outclass wolverine in speed? can you prove that? namor can outclass wolverine in fighting skills??? hell no , the fact is that wolverine got a weapon that can hurt namor and together with his skills which are beyond namors he beat him, namor is going to rip wolverines flesh? thats only what you think will happen its only your imagination ( ye and wolverine is going to stand and let namor beat him like that) but i have a solid proofe that wolverine did took namor if it wasnt his guards and then his cheap shot wolverine could kill him, i can go and say that wolverine could cut his throat his arms legs averything just like you imagine things but i stick to the facts, i dont say what i want to happen i say what happened already,the fact is that wolverine got the tools to take namor out, he can stub namor and hurt him why wont he? namor is not so durable and again the fact that namor took blaws doesnt matter that was pressure but wolverine does a penetration he penetrate namor with sharp claws made of adamentium and as you saw he can stub him , so bassically wolverine got the skills over namor, the speed as we saw he stub namor and namor couldnt avoid it and ofcourse he got the weapon to take namor out , i gave you profees all you gave me is your spwculations and please stop with the " but namor is stronger"
thing
All you have proof of is that a DUMB ASS wrote the comic that Wolverine and Namor fought in. And if your going to take EVERY comic as proof, then what about the proof that Wolverine can be taken out by someone like Pip(is is about as strong as Spiderman), or Daredevil, or Electra(who's also NOT super strong), or Sabretooth(who's not as strong as Namor I might add) and actually the time when he was KO'd by the Thing.

Now you started this thread to praise the writers of Wolverine, for finally having Wolverine show his actual fighting abilities. And I'm not dogging on Wolverines fighting abilities, because it's been shown over the course of his comic that he HAS had extensive training in martial arts. However Namor and the other 100+ strength people fighting the way they ALWAYS seem to fight when they go up against Wolverine, is no worse than Wolverine being portrayed as a simple hack and slash fighter with no skills at all. They don't fight anywhere near the best of their ability, and the fact that Wolverine is only able to take them out when they're written like shit, IS NOT an indication of his superiority.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
.... show me facts that say wolverine cant hurt thanos

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2006/03/23/theringer203_203x152.jpg

even if you win the special olympics....

really? do you know how many times wolverine took out sabretooth daredevil and all those street levelers? too many

as i said thats only your opinion that wolverine shouldnt beat namor and your only defence is that namor is class 100 thats it.... so? wolverine got healing factor and can heal out anything namor put on him, wolverine got fighting skills over namor wolverine fights very smart and knows how to move and to fight, wolverine got claws that can stab namor and theres no reason why they shouldnt, i say wolverine got speed over namor like was proved already, namor got what? super strength that wolverine can heal from? so after that tell me why cant wolverine make namor his girl?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
really? do you know how many times wolverine took out sabretooth daredevil and all those street levelers? too many

as i said thats only your opinion that wolverine shouldnt beat namor and your only defence is that namor is class 100 thats it.... so? wolverine got healing factor and can heal out anything namor put on him, wolverine got fighting skills over namor wolverine fights very smart and knows how to move and to fight, wolverine got claws that can stab namor and theres no reason why they shouldnt, i say wolverine got speed over namor like was proved already, namor got what? super strength that wolverine can heal from? so after that tell me why cant wolverine make namor his girl?
First of all, Sabretooth is not one to help your argument here, because unless I'm mistaken, he holds WAAAAAAY more wins over Wolverine than vis versa.
Second of all, his healing factor doesn't keep him from getting knocked the F*CK out. It doesn't work like that, you get KO'D when your brain slams into your skull. And ONE shot to the head from a 100+ character would do that to Wolverine(hell, 100+ nothing, I already showed you a 10 class doing it). So basically, a thunderclap(to soften him up), followed by 1 punch to the head, would take Wolverine down.

Originally posted by wolvertooth
namor outclass wolverine in speed? can you prove that? namor can outclass wolverine in fighting skills??? hell no , the fact is that wolverine got a weapon that can hurt namor and together with his skills which are beyond namors he beat him, namor is going to rip wolverines flesh? thats only what you think will happen its only your imagination ( ye and wolverine is going to stand and let namor beat him like that) but i have a solid proofe that wolverine did took namor if it wasnt his guards and then his cheap shot wolverine could kill him, i can go and say that wolverine could cut his throat his arms legs averything just like you imagine things but i stick to the facts, i dont say what i want to happen i say what happened already,the fact is that wolverine got the tools to take namor out, he can stub namor and hurt him why wont he? namor is not so durable and again the fact that namor took blaws doesnt matter that was pressure but wolverine does a penetration he penetrate namor with sharp claws made of adamentium and as you saw he can stub him , so bassically wolverine got the skills over namor, the speed as we saw he stub namor and namor couldnt avoid it and ofcourse he got the weapon to take namor out , i gave you profees all you gave me is your spwculations and please stop with the " but namor is stronger"
thing

Namor outside of the water can lift 85 tons

Fresh out of the water, around 95 tons.

In the water, 100 tons (Thing, Colossus Class)

He has shown to fly as fast if not faster than the Human Torch who flys at the speed of sound

He is atlantis's greatest warrior, so dont give me crap about Wolverine beating him

lets say that namor can take him out with a 100 punch , what makes you think he can do it before wolverine takes him out? wolverine has the upper hand in skills and speed , what makes you think wolverine wont cut the crap out of him before he can hit him? and again wolverine took hits from hulk class100, and from wendigo class 100, and from thing class 100 ( as you say) and guess what? in wolverine #179 he took beating from sesquatch and nothing happened to him at all, so what makes you think that namor is going to do him more damage than all those class 100 characters that fought wolverine and he took there hits like it was nothing

Originally posted by wolvertooth
lets say that namor can take him out with a 100 punch , what makes you think he can do it before wolverine takes him out? wolverine has the upper hand in skills and speed , what makes you think wolverine wont cut the crap out of him before he can hit him? and again wolverine took hits from hulk class100, and from wendigo class 100, and from thing class 100 ( as you say) and guess what? in wolverine #179 he took beating from sesquatch and nothing happened to him at all, so what makes you think that namor is going to do him more damage than all those class 100 characters that fought wolverine and he took there hits like it was nothing



Wolverine is nowhere as fast as Namor. Not in a million freaking years

Namor KO'ed Hulk with a HUGE punch that sent him flying for miles.

The only way Wolverine is going to stab Namor pretty much is if Namor lets him.

He might cut Namor up a little bit, but he isnt stabbing him

but wolverine did it already there you go

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine4504sw2.jpg

now as i can see grimm22 you always got nothing to say or to back your words up so you always say the same thing , namor is so fast namor is so strong while i bring you good points why wolverine can take him out you just write things like haha not in a milion years , thats only your speculations i brought you facts now unless you give me something solid and not some flaming i wont even answer and i will consider that you didnt write a thing , i dont want to be a d*ck really but i just got tired to bring thing up while you just say things like " ye right" or " not in a milion years"

Originally posted by wolvertooth
but wolverine did it already there you go

http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine4504sw2.jpg

now as i can see grimm22 you always got nothing to say or to back your words up so you always say the same thing , namor is so fast namor is so strong while i bring you good points why wolverine can take him out you just write things like haha not in a milion years , thats only your speculations i brought you facts now unless you give me something solid and not some flaming i wont even answer and i will consider that you didnt write a thing , i dont want to be a d*ck really but i just got tired to bring thing up while you just say things like " ye right" or " not in a milion years"

Yeah its called BAD WRITING.

If Namor just stood there and let Wolverine stab him. Then yes Wolverine could do that.

However Namor isnt just going to stand there and let that happen. Thats why its bad writing. If Namor wanted to he could knock Wolverine into the next state

if namor wanted? but he tried and nothing happened to wolverine from his punch, he did hit wolverine he wasnt just standing but it wasnt enough, namor wasnt just standing its just wolverine was fast and stabed him that what made it look like namor just stood... you know when you stab someone he stops thats what happened to namor, and again you post your speculations you think that namor could blow wolverine with one punch ( which didnt happen) do you ever bring something else besides speculations?

Originally posted by wolvertooth
if namor wanted? but he tried and nothing happened to wolverine from his punch, he did hit wolverine he wasnt just standing but it wasnt enough, namor wasnt just standing its just wolverine was fast and stabed him that what made it look like namor just stood... you know when you stab someone he stops thats what happened to namor, and again you post your speculations you think that namor could blow wolverine with one punch ( which didnt happen) do you ever bring something else besides speculations?
And yet he goes down from shots from Thing,Sabretooth, Pip, Electra, Daredevil, and didn't the Punisher rough him up once? Oh but that's right they all must have superspeed that makes them faster than Wolverine.