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ok, im not sure if this has been done, but we all know that thanos /w/ the IG became virtually god of the universe......... but anti-monitor along with many other cosmic powers has the power to absorb entire universes......... who wins?

hmm, this is interesting........ but id think AM takes this one, he is as powerful as several universes

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet controlled all the univeres.
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyousupremeinallrealitie.jpg

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet controlled all the univeres.
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyousupremeinallrealitie.jpg i think thats what she is saying, thanos /w/ IG controlled the universe, and antimonitor can absorb universes, and because of this trait AM has the power of several universes....

Originally posted by galan7777777
i think thats what she is saying, thanos /w/ IG controlled the universe, and antimonitor can absorb universes, and because of this trait AM has the power of several universes....

An infinite amount of Universes, and the anti monitor was the Galactus on a bigger lvl. Galactus eats worlds, The anti-monitor eats universes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
An infinite amount of Universes, and the anti monitor was the Galactus on a bigger lvl. Galactus eats worlds, The anti-monitor eats universes. yeah, i agree AM is very powerful....... who do u think would win this?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
An infinite amount of Universes, and the anti monitor was the Galactus on a bigger lvl. Galactus eats worlds, The anti-monitor eats universes. infinate?

The guy that beat down almost every abstract level being including Eternity Vs. the guy that lost to PC level heroes, Darkseid, and Spectre.

This is a hard one...Thanos.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The guy that beat down almost every abstract level being including Eternity Vs. the guy that lost to PC level heroes, Darkseid, and Spectre.

This is a hard one...Thanos.
And you think the same wouldn't have happend to thanos if he went up against the Spectre and then all the other beings?

Originally posted by Skeets
And you think the same wouldn't have happend to thanos if he went up against the Spectre and then all the other beings? agreed, thanos would have been badly beaten by spectre and the others......

Wasn't Eternity the most powerful being Thanos beat?if that's the case I don't see a clear win for Thanos. considering the fact that anti-moniter pretty much absorbed several Eternitys.

Originally posted by Skeets
Wasn't Eternity the most powerful being Thanos beat?if that's the case I don't see a clear win for Thanos. considering the fact that anti-moniter pretty much absorbed several Eternitys. yeah i see what ure saying, yes i believe thanos's most impressive victory with the IG was beating eternity....... thats why im not sure that he could beat AM...... because what would stop AM from absorbing the universe thanos was in?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet controlled all the univeres.
http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyousupremeinallrealitie.jpg

Just becuz thanos said it, doesn't make it so. Multi Eternity didn't give a ratz ass about thanos. If thanos controlled all the universes, Multi eternity would have had something to say about that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Just becuz thanos said it, doesn't make it so. Multi Eternity didn't give a ratz ass about thanos. If thanos controlled all the universes, Multi eternity would have had something to say about that. yeah, i believe thanos /w/ ig controlled a single universe at best

Originally posted by Skeets
And you think the same wouldn't have happend to thanos if he went up against the Spectre and then all the other beings?

I think not. Spectre wasn't that powerful. The idea that he's all that but still needed backing from the DC mystics and still lost doesn't add up to powered by Presence. Spectre's power fluctuates and is a member of the JSA. How many abstracts do you see running about along side Dr. Strange and the Defenders in the MU?

Spectre got into struggle with AM and lost. He was in a coma. Which one of the PC heroes that hurt AM were on the level the Marvel abstracts? Dr. Light? Superman?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I think not. Spectre wasn't that powerful. The idea that he's all that but still needed backing from the DC mystics and still lost doesn't add up to powered by Presence. Spectre's power fluctuates and is a member of the JSA. How many abstracts do you see running about along side Dr. Strange and the Defenders in the MU?

Spectre got into struggle with AM and lost. He was in a coma. Which one of the PC heroes that hurt AM were on the level the Marvel abstracts? Dr. Light? Superman?

Any precrisis Krytonian is easily abstract lvl. They can punch thru time, bend reality with thier fist, move many planets at one time. The anti monitor stood up to dozens of them.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I think not. Spectre wasn't that powerful. The idea that he's all that but still needed backing from the DC mystics and still lost doesn't add up to powered by Presence. Spectre's power fluctuates and is a member of the JSA. How many abstracts do you see running about along side Dr. Strange and the Defenders in the MU?

Spectre got into struggle with AM and lost. He was in a coma. Which one of the PC heroes that hurt AM were on the level the Marvel abstracts? Dr. Light? Superman?
what does serving with the JSA have to do with his power level or status as the wrath of god?It was Corrigan's choice to serve as a member of JSA as he became friends with Dr.fate(kent).

If you reread COIE you would see that Spectre could of beaten Anti-moniter but couldn't as AM's life force was connected to everyone.

hmmm, by this pic id say superboy prime was definatley abstract

Originally posted by Skeets
what does serving with the JSA have to do with his power level or status as the wrath of god?It was Corrigan's choice to serve as a member of JSA as he became freinds with Dr.fate(kent).

If you reread COIE you would see that Spectre could of beaten Anti-moniter but couldn't as his life force was connected to everyone.

So which one is it?

Spectre could beat AM with the backing of mystics but lost because he held back?

Or AM is really that strong because he beat Spectre that held back?


AM was drained and lost, ressurected himself, then lost his physical form, then finally destroyed by beings that aren't even abstract in level.

spectre (at full power) for all intents and purposes cant be beaten by anything less then yahweh or lucifer

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Just becuz thanos said it, doesn't make it so. Multi Eternity didn't give a ratz ass about thanos. If thanos controlled all the universes, Multi eternity would have had something to say about that.
So you rather spectulate than belive a statement...?
And you can't even dissprove it.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So you rather spectulate than belive a statement...?
And you can't even dissprove it. i agree that thanos was the god over that universe, but i think what every1 is saying is that while thanos had power over that universe, AM had the power of several universes

Originally posted by galan7777777
hmmm, by this pic id say superboy prime was definatley abstract

I guess Juggernaut's unleashed power is abstract level as well. Everybody punching through time and space is now consider abstract level in power. You learn something new every day.


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1737/juggernautje2.th.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1556/juggernaut0002tt7.th.jpg

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So you rather spectulate than belive a statement...?
And you can't even dissprove it.

ANd you can't prove it. Thanos wasn't shown defeating any other universes.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I guess Juggernaut's unleashed power is abstract level as well. Everybody punching through time and space is now consider abstract level in power. You learn something new every day.


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1737/juggernautje2.th.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1556/juggernaut0002tt7.th.jpg mabye not abstract in the literal sense, but they certainly have the power to compete with the abstracts

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I guess Juggernaut's unleashed power is abstract level as well. Everybody punching through time and space is now consider abstract level in power. You learn something new every day.


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1737/juggernautje2.th.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1556/juggernaut0002tt7.th.jpg [

And exactly what was Juggernaut at that point when he was punching thru space?

Originally posted by galan7777777
spectre (at full power) for all intents and purposes cant be beaten by anything less then yahweh or lucifer

Then he was not full powered. AM did not lose to Spectre. AM lost to those below skyfather in power.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Then he was not full powered. AM did not lose to Spectre. AM lost to those below skyfather in power. i agree that spectre wasnt at full power, or else AM would have been easily beaten

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I guess Juggernaut's unleashed power is abstract level as well. Everybody punching through time and space is now consider abstract level in power. You learn something new every day.


http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1737/juggernautje2.th.jpghttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1556/juggernaut0002tt7.th.jpg

What?

Originally posted by galan7777777
i agree that spectre wasnt at full power, or else AM would have been easily beaten

The idea that Spectre is full powered is the same idea that Galactus will be full powered.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
What?

You know there is a thread with the juggernaut vs galactus going on. IF juggernaut was not abstract when he punched threw time, then why would that thread be that long. Obviously juggs was abstract in power. how else would he even be put in a thread with galactus. that being said, not every one can punch thru time or reality. An abstract being represents something. The precrisis krytonians represented pure unstopable force.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Then he was not full powered. AM did not lose to Spectre. AM lost to those below skyfather in power.
Spectre stopped him from achieving his goal which then led to AM being defeated.Same thing Spectre did in zero hour.Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The idea that Spectre is full powered is the same idea that Galactus will be full powered.
Spectre as of V4 is the Logoz an actual part of god.When he needs power,information or whatever he taps into the power of the logoz.

Originally posted by galan7777777
mabye not abstract in the literal sense, but they certainly have the power to compete with the abstracts

Not in the least. These guys have more showings then the abstracts. The abstracts rarely do anything but talk. Cube beings, Watchers, and skyfathers do things that mess with time and space, it still doesn't mean they can compete with the abstracts. It's like saying Hela can compete with Mistress Death.

Originally posted by Skeets
Spectre stopped him from achieving his goal which then led to AM being defeated.Same thing Spectre did in zero hour.

Spectre as of V4 is the Logoz an actual part of god.When he needs power,information or whatever he taps into the power of the logoz.


How does this help AM's argument?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Not in the least. These guys have more showings then the abstracts. The abstracts rarely do anything but talk. Cube beings, Watchers, and skyfathers do things that mess with time and space, it still doesn't mean they can compete with the abstracts. It's like saying Hela can compete with Mistress Death.

Abstracts are just that. they are things that represent things. IN that sense, anyone with the power to mess with some order of reality or chaos, or order, or life, or death, has the power to complete with an abstract. Abstracts in comics are simply the personification of those things. This is why Thanos was the God of 616. He had power over all the things that were abstract. This is why no abstract could challenge his power. But anyone who can mess with any one of the abstracts is as powerful as they are. Messing with Time or reality or death is nothing to sneeze at.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
How does this help AM's argument?
Because you made it seem as if AM got beat by a bunch of heros.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Abstracts are just that. they are things that represent things. IN that sense, anyone with the power to mess with some order of reality or chaos, or order, or life, or death, has the power to complete with an abstract.

Franklin Richards, cube beings, skyfathers, and Watchers can all do these things. They are still not abstract level in power.




So which abstracts were soul, mind, and power? Your not making any sense.

Some one being able to mess with space, time, reality, and such does not make them abstract level beings. Kubik was afraid of the Celestials and this is the guy held a pocket universe in his hand.

Originally posted by Skeets
Because you made it seem as if AM got beat by a bunch of heros.

Because he did. Did Spectre kill him? Who killed AM again?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Because he did. Did Spectre kill him? Who killed AM again? u dont need 2 kill some1 to beat them

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
ANd you can't prove it. Thanos wasn't shown defeating any other universes.
Let's see it this way:
The Nullifier could destroy the Multi-verse, and it actually did.
The Nullifier could do nothing to the Gauntlet.
IG >> UN >> Multi-verse.

Thanos said that he was the supreme power over all the realities.

Yet you have no actual proof.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Let's see it this way:
The Nullifier could destroy the Multi-verse, and it actually did.
The Nullifier could do nothing to the Gauntlet.
IG >> UN >> Multi-verse.

Thanos said that he was the supreme power over all the realities.

Yet you have no actual proof.

What it ever said that the Nullifier could destroy the multi-verse? show me on panle where it can destroy the multi verse.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Let's see it this way:
The Nullifier could destroy the Multi-verse, and it actually did.
The Nullifier could do nothing to the Gauntlet.
IG >> UN >> Multi-verse.

Thanos said that he was the supreme power over all the realities.

Yet you have no actual proof. i see what he is saying, just because thanos proclaimed himself to be a god dosent make him one, but thanos becoming a god of a universe it better illustrated here http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyougod7zf.jpg

Originally posted by galan7777777
u dont need 2 kill some1 to beat them

AM was not the one in a coma, Spectre was. AM was not defeated by Spectre, but by the heroes.

Halting someone's goal and leaving them running about to wreck havoc isn't beating them. Could he? Sure, but the point is the heroes beat him, not Spectre.

Thanos beat down the abstracts who are beyond the heroes. Thanos didn't lose at all.

Defeating abstracts Vs. defeated by heroes who aren't abstracts? Whose more powerful?

Originally posted by galan7777777
i see what he is saying, just because thanos proclaimed himself to be a god dosent make him one, but thanos becoming a god of a universe it better illustrated here http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyougod7zf.jpg
Did it mention universe?
It's say "over all" space time... ect.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Did it mention universe?
It's say "over all" space time... ect. no, but this pannel with the one u provided should prove the point u were trying to make

Originally posted by galan7777777
i see what he is saying, just because thanos proclaimed himself to be a god dosent make him one, but thanos becoming a god of a universe it better illustrated here http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=igmakesyougod7zf.jpg

No. He wasn't god. not even then. The LT could have made the gems simply not work. He wasn't over all realities if the LT was still over all of the realities. He was over eternity, but less than Multi Eternity and the LT

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No. He wasn't god. not even then. The LT could have made the gems simply not work. He wasn't over all realities if the LT was still over all of the realities. He was over eternity, but less than Multi Eternity and the LT i agree, he was nowhere near multi-eternity, or LT...... but i was just showing u that it makes reference to thanos being god more then once in the IG series

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What it ever said that the Nullifier could destroy the multi-verse? show me on panle where it can destroy the multi verse. this is reed saying that the UN in the hands of abraxas can destroy the multi-verse
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unismulticv0.jpg

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Franklin Richards, cube beings, skyfathers, and Watchers can all do these things. They are still not abstract level in power.




So which abstracts were soul, mind, and power? Your not making any sense.

Some one being able to mess with space, time, reality, and such does not make them abstract level beings. Kubik was afraid of the Celestials and this is the guy held a pocket universe in his hand.

Franklin Richards is abstract lvl. He can create entire universes. I dont know what you have to be to be abstract. Love and Hate are abstracts and they aren't even as powerful as Frankin Richards.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Franklin Richards is abstract lvl. He can create entire universes. I dont know what you have to be to be abstract. Love and Hate are abstracts and they aren't even as powerful as Frankin Richards. wasnt franklin a celestial experiment?

Originally posted by galan7777777
this is reed saying that the UN in the hands of abraxas can destroy the multi-verse
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unismulticv0.jpg
And you think Abraxas with the Nullifier could take down Thanos with the IG?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And you think Abraxas with the Nullifier could take down Thanos with the IG? no i dont, did u even read the quote i was responding to in that message?

Originally posted by galan7777777
did u even read the quote i was responding to in that message?
Yes he wanted a it stated on a panel and you gave him one.
UN >> Multi-verse = Multi-Eternity

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Yes he wanted a it stated on a panel and you gave him one.
UN >> Multi-verse = Multi-Eternity yeah, and even though i wouldnt call what i posted a "pannel feat" it still answers his question

IG >> UN >> Multi-verse = Multi-Eternity >> 6 universes AM

the question thats really at hand it thanos /w/ IG= god of a universe v.s. AM=the power of several universes

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
IG >> UN >> Multi-verse = Multi-Eternity >> 6 universes AM
Ok I'll remake it:
IG >>>>>> AM 6 universes

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Ok I'll remake it:
IG >>>>>> AM 6 universes u think ig takes this one?

Originally posted by galan7777777
the question thats really at hand it thanos /w/ IG= god of a universe v.s. AM=the power of several universes

And really, this would mean that the anti monitor was absorbing the God of any universe he absorbed. Thanos basically became one with reality. This is why Eternity didn't like the IG. becuz the wearer took his place. One with reality, against one who can eat realities. I know who should win.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And really, this would mean that the anti monitor was absorbing the God of any universe he absorbed. Thanos basically became one with reality. This is why Eternity didn't like the IG. becuz the wearer took his place. One with reality, against one who can eat realities. I know who should win. yes and as u said before, thanos /w/ IG beat eternity, but AM beats eternity everytime he absorbs a universe...... and what would stop AM from absorbing the universe that thanos was in?

Originally posted by galan7777777
yes and as u said before, thanos /w/ IG beat eternity, but AM beats eternity everytime he absorbs a universe...... and what would stop AM from absorbing the universe that thanos was in?
A portion of IG's power?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
A portion of IG's power? a portion of his power? thanos will be going up against a being that is litterally hundreds of eternitys all rolled into one character...

Thanos wins. Having power to "eat" universes, and having power to do "whatever the hell you want" to universes are two different things.

You guys do the math.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thanos wins. Having power to "eat" universes, and having power to do "whatever the hell you want" to universes are two different things.

You guys do the math. but understand that AM dosent just "eat" universes, he has numerous other cosmic abilities

its not that simple he absorbed those universes didnt he if he is so weak the spectre wouldnt have stalemated him sorry but guy who can do anything he wants still cant stalemate the spectre

Originally posted by Mider999
its not that simple he absorbed those universes didnt he if he is so weak the spectre wouldnt have stalemated him sorry but guy who can do anything he wants still cant stalemate the spectre co signed

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What it ever said that the Nullifier could destroy the multi-verse? show me on panle where it can destroy the multi verse.

Here you go:

Abraxas kills the Galactus of many Universes
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/8695/0unabraxaskillsallg3ps.th.jpg


Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3020/earthalignment8vq.th.jpg

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- REALITY FOLDING ONTO ITSELF" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/2111/earthalignment26rx.th.jpg

Finally what does this lead to?

Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7392/earthalignment39jd.th.jpg
What was MISALIGNED?

The MULTI-VERSE!


How did Reed do this?


Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6069/1unisusedbyreedtodestroyabraxa.th.jpg

UN Destroys the Multiverse
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/932/2undestroysmultieternityinfini.th.jpg

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/893/3unremakesthemultiverse9jq.th.jpg


Several links where the Ultimat Nullifier was acknowledged as having REMADE the Multi-verse during the Abraxas arc.

In the Galactus bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Galactus
(Right above CHARACTERISTICS)
Galactus easily wrenched the Nullifer from Abraxas, giving it to Mister Fantastic, who used the weapon to destroy the multiverse. The result served to re-create the multiverse in which Abraxas never existed, and since all that was had ended, all that is was realigned.

In Abraxas bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Abraxas
(last sentence in his ORIGIN)
Galactus was eventually reconstituted by Franklin Richards who completely burned out his powers in the process. Reed Richards then used the Ultimate Nullifer to destroy the multiverse, and remake one in which Abraxas never existed.

In Galactus bio at wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus
(last sentence in TEMPORARY DEATH)
Galactus easily reclaimed the Ultimate Nullifier from Abraxas and Reed Richards used it to remake the multiverse into one in which Abraxas never escaped.

Now...


An INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet punking ALL that power:


Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5366/igvsunoz6.th.jpg

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2843/igvsun2pi1.th.jpg
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..

Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.

"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8928/igvsun3sw2.th.jpg


nuff said...

You go boy!

Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by batdude123
Anti-Monitor. agreed

Originally posted by Mr Master
Now...


An INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet punking ALL that power:


Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5366/igvsunoz6.th.jpg

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2843/igvsun2pi1.th.jpg
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..

Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.

"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8928/igvsun3sw2.th.jpg


nuff said...
Retcon?

Originally posted by Skeets
Retcon?

No.

T w IG

Originally posted by batdude123
Anti-Monitor.

No doubt.

An INCOMPLETE IG completely dominates a weapon that can RE-WRITE the entire Multi-verse in the blink of an eye.

How can a COMPLETE IG have any chance.

Originally posted by Mr Master
No doubt.

An INCOMPLETE IG completely dominates a weapon that can RE-WRITE the entire Multi-verse in the blink of an eye.

How can a COMPLETE IG have any chance.
Don't speak like that, they will actually think you agreed...
the simple minded

remember AM would be no pushover, he has the power of hundreds of universes if not thousands...... thanos would have his hands full

Originally posted by galan7777777
remember AM would be no pushover, he has the power of hundreds of universes if not thousands...... thanos would have his hands full
I only got it to 6 universes... Where were it stated that it was 100 or even 1,000?

ANyways Thanos of Titan.

Originally posted by Mr Master
No.
Or is it just writers interpretation on how powerful the UN really is?

Do you really think it was capable of destroying the Multiverse back then?

When it first appeared Uatu warned Reed that it could detroy the Solar system in a micro second.galactus later on Said it could destroy a galaxy or the Universe.

I don't believe there has been any mention of it being that powerful before the Abraxas arc.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I only got it to 6 universes... Where were it stated that it was 100 or even 1,000?

ANyways Thanos of Titan. since i dont have scans we will just go with 6 universes..... that is equivelent to 6 eternities rolled into one..... thanos would have a hard time with that

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Don't speak like that, they will actually think you agreed...
the simple minded

I don't believe you have the room to call one "simple minded."

Originally posted by galan7777777
since i dont have scans we will just go with 6 universes..... that is equivelent to 6 eternities rolled into one..... thanos would have a hard time with that
If Thanos could destroy the Multi-verse (Multi-Eternity) with it. It wouldent matter how many Eterity that ganged up.

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't believe you have the room to call one "simple minded."
Actually I do, because I am right...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Actually I do, because I am right...

Sure. Follow, be a cronie. Don't think for yourself. Just follow around Mr. Master and don't have a single independent thought.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure. Follow, be a cronie. Don't think for yourself. Just follow around Mr. Master and don't have a single independent thought.
Actually I do not follow, it's wierd though, everything I belive he does as well.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Actually I do not follow, it's wierd though, everything I belive he does as well.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Originally posted by batdude123
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... lol, its just what he does

Take that spam somewhere else.

And Master I'm still waiting for your toughts.

Originally posted by galan7777777
lol, its just what he does Rather agree with someone who knows what he speaks about than agree with someone whoi don't, right?

Originally posted by Mr Master
No doubt.

An INCOMPLETE IG completely dominates a weapon that can RE-WRITE the entire Multi-verse in the blink of an eye.

How can a COMPLETE IG have any chance.

Yeah, 'cause it took the Spectre to remake the entire Multiverse to simply weaken the Anti-Monitor just enough so that he could beat him. Monitor was crapping on every higher up being in the DC multiverse like it was nada.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure. Follow, be a cronie. Don't think for yourself. Just follow around Mr. Master and don't have a single independent thought.
Okay, if you say so.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Rather agree with someone who knows what he speaks about than agree with someone whoi don't, right? good one buddy

Originally posted by Accel
Okay, if you say so. Originally posted by galan7777777
good one buddy Originally posted by Skeets
Take that spam somewhere else.

And Master I'm still waiting for your toughts.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, 'cause it took the Spectre to remake the entire Multiverse to simply weaken the Anti-Monitor just enough so that he could beat him. Monitor was crapping on every higher up being in the DC multiverse like it was nada. exactly, if spectre couldnt beat him, then thanos certainly could not

Originally posted by galan7777777
exactly, if spectre couldnt beat him, then thanos certainly could not
How come? - This wasent Spectre at his prime or anything, many beings have actually battled Spectre, Pre-crisis Superman cut him into shreds with the Sword of Truth.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How come? - This wasent Spectre at his prime or anything, many beings have actually battled Spectre, Pre-crisis Superman cut him into shreds with the Sword of Truth.
When was this?Scan?issue number?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
How come? - This wasent Spectre at his prime or anything, many beings have actually battled Spectre, Pre-crisis Superman cut him into shreds with the Sword of Truth. all that would do is make spectre have to find a new host, spectre cannot be killed

Originally posted by galan7777777
all that would do is make spectre have to find a new host, spectre cannot be killed
His Host is always dead so no he wouldn't need to find a new host as his host can't be killed again....lol

Originally posted by Skeets
Or is it just writers interpretation on how powerful the UN really is?

Which incident are you referring to?


Originally posted by Skeets
Do you really think it was capable of destroying the Multiverse back then?

It never happened before, so I don't know.

But I did alot of research into the Abraxas arc, because some were refuting, it was the Multi-verse that was remade, and non of the Marvel sites (Official or Un-Official) mentioned anything about "Retcons"..



Originally posted by Skeets
When it first appeared Uatu warned Reed that it could detroy the Solar system in a micro second.galactus later on Said it could destroy a galaxy or the Universe.


That's correct,

in that same issue Galactus said it could destroy the Universe
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9140/unka1.th.jpg


Originally posted by Skeets
I don't believe there has been any mention of it being that powerful before the Abraxas arc.

I agree.

Then again before the Abraxas arc and after the FF#50 event, the UN was used by Morg, and it was only capable of Nullifying Galactus, his Ship, Morg and another...or so it seemed.

So go figure.

Originally posted by batdude123
Sure. Follow, be a cronie. Don't think for yourself. Just follow around Mr. Master and don't have a single independent thought.

geez bat,

No need to dis just because he agrees with another.

I'm not just pumping words at ya, I include with nearly everthing I say, the evidence.

He reviews the evidence (on panel artwork), and makes his mind up.

I don't see anyone following anyone here, well that's not true, I have seen others

but not T.

Originally posted by Mr Master
geez bat,

No need to dis just because he agrees with another.

I'm not just pumping words at ya, I include with nearly everthing I say, the evidence.

He reviews the evidence (on panel artwork), and makes his mind up.

I don't see anyone following anyone here, well that's not true, I have seen others

but not T.

New people piss me off sometimes.

Originally posted by batdude123
New people piss me off sometimes.
I've been at this forum for months... I'm not new.
Look under my account name: Senior member.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I've been at this forum for months... I'm not new.
Look under my account name: Senior member.

Touche. Just don't call people "simple minded" if they don't agree with you.

Originally posted by batdude123
Touche. Just don't call people "simple minded" if they don't agree with you.
I'd never.

Originally posted by batdude123
New people piss me off sometimes.
lolOriginally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I've been at this forum for months... I'm not new.
Look under my account name: Senior member.
look at my title.It don't mean anything.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I'd never.

Did you not just say "simple minded" in reference to me when I didn't agree with Mr. Master?

Originally posted by batdude123
Did you not just say "simple minded" in reference to me when I didn't agree with Mr. Master?
No, I said that the simple minded (not refering to anyone) wouldent understand that he was joking.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No, I said that the simple minded (not refering to anyone) wouldent understand that he was joking.

Misinterpretation can be an ugly thing.

Originally posted by batdude123
Misinterpretation can be an ugly thing.
Sometime it can, but in this case it wasent

Originally posted by batdude123
Did you not just say "simple minded" in reference to me when I didn't agree with Mr. Master?


When I posted this to you:
Originally posted by Mr Master
No doubt.

An INCOMPLETE IG completely dominates a weapon that can RE-WRITE the entire Multi-verse in the blink of an eye.

How can a COMPLETE IG have any chance.

T posted this to me:
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Don't speak like that, they will actually think you agreed...
the simple minded

I think he meant in general, not you.

It seemed like you since it segued from you to me to you to him...

Originally posted by Mr Master
When I posted this to you:


T posted this to me:


I think he meant in general, not you.

It seemed like you since it segued from you to me to you to him...

Originally posted by Skeets
And Master I'm still waiting for your toughts.

Did you catch my reply?

Originally posted by batdude123

Originally posted by galan7777777
agreed


Agreed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Agreed.

I can see you missed this:
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What it ever said that the Nullifier could destroy the multi-verse? show me on panle where it can destroy the multi verse.
Here you go:


Abraxas kills the Galactus of many Universes
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/8695/0unabraxaskillsallg3ps.th.jpg


Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3020/earthalignment8vq.th.jpg

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- REALITY FOLDING ONTO ITSELF" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/2111/earthalignment26rx.th.jpg

Finally what does this lead to?

Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7392/earthalignment39jd.th.jpg
What was MISALIGNED?

The MULTI-VERSE!


How did Reed do this?


Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & Remake the Multiverse
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6069/1unisusedbyreedtodestroyabraxa.th.jpg

UN Destroys the Multiverse
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/932/2undestroysmultieternityinfini.th.jpg

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/893/3unremakesthemultiverse9jq.th.jpg


Several links where the Ultimate Nullifier was acknowledged as having REMADE the Multi-verse during the Abraxas arc.

In the Galactus bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Galactus
(Right above CHARACTERISTICS)
Galactus easily wrenched the Nullifer from Abraxas, giving it to Mister Fantastic, who used the weapon to destroy the multiverse. The result served to re-create the multiverse in which Abraxas never existed, and since all that was had ended, all that is was realigned.

In Abraxas bio: at marveldatabase
http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Abraxas
(last sentence in his ORIGIN)
Galactus was eventually reconstituted by Franklin Richards who completely burned out his powers in the process. Reed Richards then used the Ultimate Nullifer to destroy the multiverse, and remake one in which Abraxas never existed.

In Galactus bio at wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactus
(last sentence in TEMPORARY DEATH)
Galactus easily reclaimed the Ultimate Nullifier from Abraxas and Reed Richards used it to remake the multiverse into one in which Abraxas never escaped.

An INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet Owning the UN


Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5366/igvsunoz6.th.jpg

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2843/igvsun2pi1.th.jpg
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them, Absolute control..

Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.

"With a Thought, I turn the Universe's most devastating weapon upon it's bearer"
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8928/igvsun3sw2.th.jpg

This thread has been done before. Please use this thread.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416810

i still say AM gives thanos a run for his money!

Originally posted by galan7777777
i still say AM gives thanos a run for his money! i would have to agree, AM has the power of several universes....he would be a handful for thanos!

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't believe you have the room to call one "simple minded." Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Actually I do, because I am right...
No it doesn't!!
Just because someone's not right, does not give you the right to call them simple minded!!
They don't agree with you. That doesn't mean there simple minded.

Just because you might be right. That doesn't mean there simple minded.

You see what I mean?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No, I said that the simple minded (not refering to anyone) wouldent understand that he was joking. Actually you posted it towards all that don't agree with you! ( Batdude, Skeets, neverbeenwithagirl)
So ya, you did call batdude "simple minded"

I'm sorry if I appear to against you, It's just that I will prove almost anyone wrong who lies about things, or makes themselves look like there god.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Franklin Richards is abstract lvl. He can create entire universes. I dont know what you have to be to be abstract. Love and Hate are abstracts and they aren't even as powerful as Frankin Richards.

No he isn't. The guy is Celestial level. He can create pocket universes not universes. And can you prove that Franklin is more powerful than Love and Hate?

Here's a list of abstracts the IG beats down:

Eternity & Death
Chaos & Order
Eon & Chronos
Love & Hate

Non-abstracts
TOAA Celestial & another Celestial (Ziran)
Galactus & Mephisto
Stranger


Originally posted by galan7777777
yes and as u said before, thanos /w/ IG beat eternity, but AM beats eternity everytime he absorbs a universe......

Jeeze. That's not the same thing. Tombstone or Rhino can smash boulders 2-4 times there size but would you say either of them would beat Ben Grim?

I mean those universe didn't even fight back. Drax, Gladiator, and Star Dust can destroy planets yet they would get slapped around by Ego.

Eternity and the Crisis heroes have a wide gap in power and yet they beat AM.



You mean other than putting a hole the size of Jupiter in AM's chest and draining AM? Using the time gem and predicting outcomes to keep ahead of AM's moves? I guess he could shove a nearby star into AM's chest ala Dr. Light tactic, followed by punches greater than Supes.

Darkseid's weapon put a hole into AM. I don't see a weapon that toyed with the UN, two universes, greater than even 5 cosmic cubes, and whacked almost every abstract not doing worst.

Thanos never lost. He gave up subconsciously after beating up everyone including Eternity.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
You mean other than putting a hole the size of Jupiter in AM's chest and draining AM? Using the time gem and predicting outcomes to keep ahead of AM's moves? I guess he could shove a nearby star into AM's chest ala Dr. Light tactic, followed by punches greater than Supes.

Darkseid's weapon put a hole into AM. I don't see a weapon that toyed with the UN, two universes, greater than even 5 cosmic cubes, and whacked almost every abstract not doing worst.

I just love this thumbup1

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just love this thumbup1

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
No he isn't. The guy is Celestial level. He can create pocket universes not universes. And can you prove that Franklin is more powerful than Love and Hate?

Here's a list of abstracts the IG beats down:

Eternity & Death
Chaos & Order
Eon & Chronos
Love & Hate

Non-abstracts
TOAA Celestial & another Celestial (Ziran)
Galactus & Mephisto
Stranger




Jeeze. That's not the same thing. Tombstone or Rhino can smash boulders 2-4 times there size but would you say either of them would beat Ben Grim?

I mean those universe didn't even fight back. Drax, Gladiator, and Star Dust can destroy planets yet they would get slapped around by Ego.

Eternity and the Crisis heroes have a wide gap in power and yet they beat AM.



You mean other than putting a hole the size of Jupiter in AM's chest and draining AM? Using the time gem and predicting outcomes to keep ahead of AM's moves? I guess he could shove a nearby star into AM's chest ala Dr. Light tactic, followed by punches greater than Supes.

Darkseid's weapon put a hole into AM. I don't see a weapon that toyed with the UN, two universes, greater than even 5 cosmic cubes, and whacked almost every abstract not doing worst.

Thanos never lost. He gave up subconsciously after beating up everyone including Eternity. yes thanos did give up but he never battled anyone who's power was near AM's....... the most impressive fight he had was battleing eternity, whos power is obviously nowhere near AM's........... and u mentioned that thanos could use the time gem to see the outcomes of events, could he have used the time gem to its fullest?, there was never any evidence of this, thanos was too consumed in his own power to ever think past the moment....... either way you look at it, AM would be more powerful then any being thanos with the IG ever fought...

Originally posted by galan7777777
but he never battled anyone who's power was near AM's.......

Read Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinity Gauntlet plus it's crossovers.


Originally posted by galan7777777
the most impressive fight he had was battleing eternity, whos power is obviously nowhere near AM's...........

How'd you come up with that conclusion.

Who said that Eternity = a DC Universe?

What? You think that all those Universes AM absorbed were Eternitys? hysterical


By the way, the MOST impressive Feat depicted by the IG, was when it was INCOMPLETE.

Controlling the Ultimate Nullifier like it's b*tch.

The Ultimate Nullifier can DESTROY and REMAKE the entire MULTI-VERSE in the blink of an eye.

Unlike AM, who had to absorb a Universe at a time, like a domino affect.


Originally posted by galan7777777
and u mentioned that thanos could use the time gem to see the outcomes of events, could he have used the time gem to its fullest?, there was never any evidence of this,

There is Evidence but since you don't read these comics how would you know.

IG FORCES you to see the past or the FUTURE at all times (TO ITS FULLEST)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9883/iglb8.th.jpg
"I am the type who sees the FUTURE and is held prisoner by it"


Originally posted by galan7777777
thanos was too consumed in his own power to ever think past the moment.......


Have you even read the IG pack and it's crossovers?

Stop making things up if you don't know what your talking about.

Thanos THOUGT about the MOMENT so perferctly, that he engineered his own demise
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7835/t1ty9.th.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/764/t2jq3.th.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/362/t3se7.th.jpg


Originally posted by galan7777777
either way you look at it, AM would be more powerful then any being thanos with the IG ever fought...

Your baseless opinion.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Read Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinity Gauntlet plus it's crossovers.




How'd you come up with that conclusion.

Who said that Eternity = a DC Universe?

What? You think that all those Universes AM absorbed were Eternitys? hysterical


By the way, the MOST impressive Feat depicted by the IG, was when it was INCOMPLETE.

Controlling the Ultimate Nullifier like it's b*tch.

The Ultimate Nullifier can DESTROY and REMAKE the entire MULTI-VERSE in the blink of an eye.

Unlike AM, who had to absorb a Universe at a time, like a domino affect.




There is Evidence but since you don't read these comics how would you know.

IG FORCES you to see the past or the FUTURE at all times (TO ITS FULLEST)
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9883/iglb8.th.jpg
"I am the type who sees the FUTURE and is held prisoner by it"





Have you even read the IG pack and it's crossovers?

Stop making things up if you don't know what your talking about.

Thanos THOUGT about the MOMENT so perferctly, that he engineered his own demise
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/7835/t1ty9.th.jpg

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/764/t2jq3.th.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/362/t3se7.th.jpg




Your baseless opinion.

And ur opnion is also wrong. Every universe the monitor at and ABsorbed was the equal to a DC universe. Each one was cannon unto itself, full of abstracts and life and various cosmics. He at them all and gained thier power. For you to say that this is not so is purely speculation. But we know for a fact each universe was a universe full of power becuz they were all mirror realities of each other.

Galan proven wrong once again...

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Galan proven wrong once again...

No he hasn't. Ur freinds posting of scans only prove that he knows how to use a scanner and put pretty pictures up. Galan's argument is sound.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Galan proven wrong once again... when have u EVER proven me wrong, its a fact that u are in whatever forum mr master is in, just because u dont have anything to argue with in the other forum, dont go running to mr master for help, its pathetic

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No he hasn't. Ur freinds posting of scans only prove that he knows how to use a scanner and put pretty pictures up. Galan's argument is sound.
You know that time create new universes do you?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
You know that time create new universes do you? u see thanos is trying to stay in the same forum as master, he always does this

Originally posted by galan7777777
when have u EVER proven me wrong, its a fact that u are in whatever forum mr master is in, just because u dont have anything to argue with in the other forum, dont go running to mr master for help, its pathetic
And you have proven much yourself?
He knows what he talks about... So I agree, because I understand the point he is making.
You're just a DC fanboy who cannot accept the truth.

Originally posted by galan7777777
u see thanos is trying to stay in the same forum as master, he always does this
And your point exactly?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And you have proven much yourself?
He knows what he talks about... So I agree, because I understand the point he is making.
You're just a DC fanboy who cannot accept the truth. haha a fanboy huh, usually that desperate ones resort to name calling

Originally posted by galan7777777
haha a fanboy huh, usually that desperate ones resort to name calling
Usually huh? - You have been shown proof that could make a 5 year old understand.
You on the otherhand don't get it. - I'm just calling you for what you are.
A deluded fanboy who cannot prove that a insect have six legs.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Usually huh? - You have been shown proof that could make a 5 year old understand.
You on the otherhand don't get it. - I'm just calling you for what you are.
A deluded fanboy who cannot prove that a insect have six legs.

And ur not a fanboy? Look at the pot calling the kettle.. NVM. You win. Every single marvel charcter is more powerful than every single dc character. The mole man can beat Superman. OK. you happy now.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And ur not a fanboy? Look at the pot calling the kettle.. NVM. You win. Every single marvel charcter is more powerful than every single dc character. The mole man can beat Superman. OK. you happy now. im sure that will make his day

Originally posted by galan7777777
im sure that will make his day
Wasent I just flamed by you, by calling you a fanboy, yet it's ok if he does it?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Wasent I just flamed by you, by calling you a fanboy, yet it's ok if he does it? how am i a fanboy by saying that beyonder wouldnt beat michael and lucifer? ure the fanboy here buddy

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And ur opnion is also wrong. Every universe the monitor at and ABsorbed was the equal to a DC universe. Each one was cannon unto itself, full of abstracts and life and various cosmics. He at them all and gained thier power. For you to say that this is not so is purely speculation. But we know for a fact each universe was a universe full of power becuz they were all mirror realities of each other.

So you think that Alternate/Mirror realities are exact reflections of each other in terms od power?

Once again, it's laughable when kids just continue to post fallacy with confidence.

Alternate/Mirror Realities are completely different from each other

Reed is Dr Doom in one Universe and a brute in the other
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3889/diff1hx6.th.jpg


Benn Grimm is NOT the Thing in this other Universe and in another he has Reed's power.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9348/diff2lp0.th.jpg


The Thing is a footbal player in one Universe while Sue Storm has the Human Torch's powers
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1314/diff3jc0.th.jpg


Here a bunch of heroes who are still heroes but with NO powers. (including yet another Reed)
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/2296/diff4tt9.th.jpg

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And you have proven much yourself?
He knows what he talks about... So I agree, because I understand the point he is making.
You're just a DC fanboy who cannot accept the truth. Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And ur not a fanboy? Look at the pot calling the kettle.. NVM. You win. Every single marvel charcter is more powerful than every single dc character. The mole man can beat Superman. OK. you happy now. Originally posted by galan7777777
how am i a fanboy by saying that beyonder wouldnt beat michael and lucifer? ure the fanboy here buddy
Your all fanboys, happy?

Originally posted by bigbran
Your all fanboys, happy?
ohhh.... wow... isn't that an opinion? come on where are the panel feats? lol

Thanos is given the gauntlet vs a fully powered Moniter. who wins this battle?

Anti-Monitor.

AM

Been done. Everyone except the marvel trolls agreed that AM shitstomped him.

AM.

Merge with this thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=419224&pagenumber=1

Thanos wins.



But I agree with OneDumb.