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JesusIsAlive

Lord Urizen

Alliance
It means CLOSED!

...or nothing.

debbiejo

Alliance
I like how the first 3 posts were in the first minute of this thread being alive.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
I like how the first 3 posts were in the first minute of this thread being alive.



laughing


JIA must be crying right now ! big grin

Alliance
Not likely...too ignorant of facts.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
Not likely...too ignorant of facts.

Do you think he has feelings ?

Alliance
Yes.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
Yes.


You mean like Wrath and Jealousy ?

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
You mean like Wrath and Jealousy ?
Most humans are capable of those, so I'd assume so.

~Flamboyant~

Alliance
God is great no expression

...oh wait...he simply is not.

FeceMan
Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
So basically if you're not Christian, our all loving God makes you a victim of his wrath. That's nice.
Well, it's more of a "if you don't ask Christ for forgiveness--the very Son of God who came to Earth and suffered a horrific death, taking all the sins of the human race, pas and present, onto his shoulders as he sagged, nailed to the cross--then God just might be a little teed off".

Alliance
Pathetic really. Thousands of people were crucified. One man, who is extroadinarily undocumented...was nothing special.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Pathetic really. Thousands of people were crucified. One man, who is extroadinarily undocumented...was nothing special.
Aside from being the Son of God and taking all the world's sins on him as he died.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Aside from being the Son of God and taking all the world's sins on him as he died.

False Claims wink

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
Aside from being the Son of God and taking all the world's sins on him as he died. aside from your undocumented and unfounded belief (which is imo pathetic) that your mythology is factual and literal.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
False Claims wink
Don't be too quick to point the finger on that one.
Originally posted by Alliance
aside from your undocumented and unfounded belief (which is imo pathetic) that your mythology is factual and literal.
Oooh, oooh, well, your LACK of belief is PATHETIC!

(Zing.)

Shakyamunison

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Don't be too quick to point the finger on that one.

I'll give you a finger

Alliance
keep it cleaner.

and with more of a point.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It sounds like a threat. Be one of us or we will kill you. Is that from the Koran?
More of a warning, I'd say.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I'll give you a finger
I'd rather not suffer a dirty Sanchez, but I thank you for the offer.

Alliance
sounds like a familiar Christian one.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
sounds like a familiar Christian one.
That would probably because it is a familiar Christian one. Being that it comes from the Bible. Upon which Christianity is founded.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
More of a warning, I'd say.

It didn't sound like a warning to me. It sounds like something Osama Bin Lodan would say.

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
That would probably because it is a familiar Christian one. Being that it comes from the Bible. Upon which Christianity is founded. AH!. BRILLIANT!

*writes down in journal*

Alliance
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It didn't sound like a warning to me. It sounds like something Osama Bin Lodan would say.
Really, self procalimed holy men have a problem with that.

They are all frauds.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It didn't sound like a warning to me. It sounds like something Osama Bin Lodan would say.
I'd suggest you'd get your ears--or in this case, eyes--checked, then.

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'd suggest you'd get your ears--or in this case, eyes--checked, then.

why, becuase he is correct?

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
why, becuase he is correct?
Generally, one does not require a check-up of one's sensory organs when they are functioning correctly.

Alliance
exactly why you have me confused as to why he needs a check up.

Shakyamunison

Alliance
It could say.."kill all infidels"

FeceMan

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'll break it down in a more correct manner.

"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life" = you will have immortality, living in paradise and in the splendor of majesty and God.

"and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." = the wrath of God is coming and I am here to tell you so that you have the opportunity to avoid it and have everlasting life.

I already have immortality in reincarnation, and God is the reason I live. So why would God be made at me?

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'll break it down in a more correct manner.

"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life" = you will have immortality, living in paradise and in the splendor of majesty and God.

"and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." = the wrath of God is coming and I am here to tell you so that you have the opportunity to avoid it and have everlasting life.
aren't "the people of (your) god" supposed to carry out "his" will?

FeceMan
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I already have immortality in reincarnation, and God is the reason I live. So why would God be made at me?
God's not mad at you. God just happens to be just, and in being just, He punishes evil. Unfortunately for us, humans happen to be evil. Fortunately for us, we have been given a sacrifice to cleanse us of our taint.
Originally posted by Alliance
aren't "the people of (your) god" supposed to carry out "his" will?
Only when directly ordered. God's in charge of judgment, not me.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
God's not mad at you. God just happens to be just, and in being just, He punishes evil. Unfortunately for us, humans happen to be evil. Fortunately for us, we have been given a sacrifice to cleanse us of our taint.

Only when directly ordered. God's in charge of judgment, not me.

God is both good and evil just like us. Your logic is flowed.

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
Only when directly ordered. God's in charge of judgment, not me.

HA HA. LAME.

1. You shouve your arbitrary judgement off onto a fictional being.

2. You just make up whenever someone need to die.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
God is both good and evil just like us. Your logic is flowed.
No, God is good. Your own logic is flawed.

Alliance
No. Its not.

There is no "good and evil"

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
No, God is good. Your own logic is flawed.


All things are part of God and evil and good are only terms we put to things in life. One man's good is another mans evil and visa versa.

Alliance
or... "good" and "evil" are meaningless.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
No. Its not.

There is no "good and evil"
Yes, there is.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All things are part of God and evil and good are only terms we put to things in life. One man's good is another mans evil and visa versa.
Except God has set rules and objective standards in place that we would know what is right and wrong rather than relying on our own flawed ideas.

Alliance
Only a fool believes that his god trumps his intellect.

If gods existed, and gave man intellect, then why would "god" in his all "goodness" and crap like that, want man to forego the use of his intellect.

Shakyamunison
Remember FeceMan, I don't believe in hell, or the devil, or the original sin, or the divinity of Jesus, or the separation of God from us.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes, there is.

Except God has set rules and objective standards in place that we would know what is right and wrong rather than relying on our own flawed ideas.

Sorry but someone has lied to you.

Alliance
...and to you Shakya wink

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Only a fool believes that his god trumps his intellect.

If gods existed, and gave man intellect, then why would "god" in his all "goodness" and crap like that, want man to forego the use of his intellect.
God doesn't want us not to use our intellect, but He also knows that we've been tainted by sin and suffer from a permanent moral dysfunction.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Remember FeceMan, I don't believe in hell, or the devil, or the original sin, or the divinity of Jesus, or the separation of God from us.
Then I guess we're at a standoff.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Alliance
...and to you Shakya wink

People have lied to me all my life, I simple choose to believe what is right for me.

But what are you talking about? big grin


Originally posted by FeceMan
...Then I guess we're at a standoff.

No stand-off, you are my friend, and we are just talking. smile

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
God doesn't want us not to use our intellect, but He also knows that we've been tainted by sin and suffer from a permanent moral dysfunction.

Yeah...right...and you know this how?

(PS. You don't)

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah...right...and you know this how?

(PS. You don't)
Are we born into sin? Yes.
Do we do evil things? Yes.
Do we justify evil actions? Yes.
Do we twist and convolute the ideas of 'right' and 'wrong' and 'good' and 'evil' until we're so locked into a tangled web of confused semantics and (quite frankly) horseshit that we decide we can't say something is in one of the four categories listed? YES.

Alliance
Are we born into sin? No. Tabula Rasa. If you think you ar born sinful, that is your personal beleif...nothing more

Do we do evil things? Likely.

Do we justify evil actions? Of course. Everyone justifies their actions.

Do we twist and convolute the ideas of 'right' and 'wrong' and 'good' and 'evil' until we're so locked into a tangled web of confused semantics and (quite frankly) horseshit that we decide we can't say something is in one of the four categories listed?

Yes, simply because in the modern world, people are intelligent enough (well, many people) to realize that they are not the only person in the world, and that a persons inability to put themselves in anyone elses shoes...makes that person an idiot.

Intelligent people also realize that "good" and "bad" are 2-year-old words that don't really mean anything. Its just a perspective. If you think the world is in black and white...you're colorblind.

FeceMan
Yeh have just proven my point.

JesusIsAlive

Alliance
That dark blue is PAINFUL on KMC black.

Shakyamunison

Alliance
Argh...its always about lies.

crazy
Off topic but I finally saw Passion of the Christ, judged as a movie, it was really boring.

Alliance
yeah....that is off topic...get back to off-topic and try not to go off-off-topic again smile

Alliance
yeah....that is off topic...get back to off-topic and try not to go off-off-topic again smile

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Someone has lied to you , big time. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Yeah, it is you and everyone else who denies the veracity of the Bible.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yeah, it is you and everyone else who denies the veracity of the Bible.

laughing

Dude....face it...your little Bible is the biggest lie of all.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Are we born into sin? Yes.
Do we do evil things? Yes.
Do we justify evil actions? Yes.
Do we twist and convolute the ideas of 'right' and 'wrong' and 'good' and 'evil' until we're so locked into a tangled web of confused semantics and (quite frankly) horseshit that we decide we can't say something is in one of the four categories listed? YES.

Do we do good things? Yes
Do we justify good actions? Yes
Do we stay true to the ideals of good and evil? Sometimes



You are only looking at this through a pessemistic point of view. How typically Christian.... no

Lord Urizen

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Do we do good things? Yes
Do we justify good actions? Yes
Do we stay true to the ideals of good and evil? Sometimes



You are only looking at this through a pessemistic point of view. How typically Christian.... no
Because I see things for what they are?

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Because I see things for what they are?


No. You only see things from one side...you ignore the other side.

Alliance
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
No. You only see things from one side...

You ignore ALL other sides.

Atlantis001
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It sounds like a threat. Be one of us or we will kill you. Is that from the Koran?

LOL ! Thats why these threads are still interesting ! laughing

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
You ignore ALL other sides.

WTF are you talkn about ?

Alliance
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
WTF are you talkn about ?

REFERENCE ERROR:

Sorry. I was talking to Feces.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
No. You only see things from one side...you ignore the other side.
I see them from multiple sides. I just happen to agree with one side.

Alliance
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
droolio
You know you like it b*tch!


Erm...calm down erm

debbiejo
Originally posted by Alliance
or... "good" and "evil" are meaningless. They are not really meaningless but a tool to learn the cause and effects.

Alliance
The words are thrown around so casually...and they are all based on perspective.

debbiejo
Everything has a cause and effect though......

Alliance
likely...

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Alliance
likely...

Spamly...

Alliance
unlikely...

debbiejo
Sure does. And it is quite a science also and could be called "sowing and Reaping or Karma also."

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
Erm...calm down erm


LOLOL....when the hell did i say that ? laughing

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
I see them from multiple sides. I just happen to agree with one side.



Actually you see a mere lie.

You beleive that truly good people never suffer, and that people who suffer horrible do so because thier own evils come back to haunt them?

Omg....what a fairy tale anti-reality you live in.

What's next Fecesman?

I do beleive in Fairies ! ???? erm

ThePittman

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Actually you see a mere lie.

You beleive that truly good people never suffer, and that people who suffer horrible do so because thier own evils come back to haunt them?

Omg....what a fairy tale anti-reality you live in.

What's next Fecesman?

I do beleive in Fairies ! ???? erm
YES, LORD URIZEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE.

Himo

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
YES, LORD URIZEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE.

Excuse my French....but it seems to me you beleive in bunch of bullshit wink

ThePittman

Lord Urizen

Himo

FeceMan
I've explained it so many times that it hurts.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
I've explained it so many times that it hurts.

Are you Catholic ?

FeceMan
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Are you Catholic ?
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.

Stop.
It.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.

Stop.
It.

Then shut up

ThePittman
Originally posted by FeceMan
I've explained it so many times that it hurts. I have had people from pastors, to religious fanatics try and explain this and either way off and go on a tangent or I get a different explanation every time.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
I've explained it so many times that it hurts.

Maybe your explanations lack logic ?

FeceMan
Check the "You Can't Have It Both Ways" thread, ThePittman. Lord Urizen, if anyone thinks my explanations are lacking anything--save for sense or anything else that would be considered positive--then he or she has not read them thoroughly.

debbiejo
Are you yelling???

ThePittman

debbiejo
Me?

ThePittman
Originally posted by debbiejo
Me? No mister yelling there. smile

FeceMan

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
I am posting in large font because it seems that it is impossible for people to understand anything unless it is in large font.

Acutally...it just makes you look like you're 5.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Acutally...it just makes you look like you're 5.
Coincidentally, that is the size of the font you are reading.

Alliance
Coincidence, huh.

ThePittman

FeceMan

Alliance
DONT INSULT POLITICIANS mad

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
An amazing rebuttal on your behalf.

P.S. The font you are now reading is size 6.

My god, he grew up a year...oh wait...hes still 12.

ThePittman
Originally posted by Alliance
DONT INSULT POLITICIANS mad laughing my bad stick out tongue

Alliance
thumb up

ThePittman
Originally posted by FeceMan
An amazing rebuttal on your behalf.

P.S. The font you are now reading is size 6. Thank you I know it was stick out tongue

If God is all knowing, all seeing and all powerful then he all ready knows what has happened, is and all that will happen so that means he will already know if you will believe in him or not even before you are born.

Alliance
NOOOOOO!!!!111 Because God gave us free WIIIIIILLLLLLLLL. Because he wants up to CHOOOOOSEEEEE for ourselves...

FeceMan
Yes, He does. He has given us the opportunity to ask for forgiveness--whether we take it or not is our choice.

Alliance
No. Ulitmatums NEVER coincide with free will.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
No. Ulitmatums NEVER coincide with free will.
Uh...yeah, they do?

Alliance
no...they don't. People will do anything under a gun.

ThePittman

Alliance
Therfore....we do not have free will.

ThePittman
Originally posted by Alliance
Therfore....we do not have free will. yes That means he made that person knowing that they will be condemned.

Alliance
Yes.

ThePittman
I wonder where the rebuttal is? lookaround

Alliance
I'm hoping were done.

ThePittman
Guess so time for a beer

Alliance
laughing

lord xyz
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It sounds like a threat. Be one of us or we will kill you. Is that from the Koran? It's from the bible, easy mistake though.

dark99

ThePittman
Originally posted by dark99
If God is all knowing then does God have free will or does he just have to follow the actions he sees himself performing... things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm...

dark99
hmmmm...

JesusIsAlive

Alliance
Originally posted by ThePittman
things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Scategories!

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
no...they don't. People will do anything under a gun.
Apparently not. You have made your choice.

In fact, let's have a thought experiment.

I give you an ultimatum: either become a Christian within twenty-four hours or I'm going to come to your house and murder you.

What are your choices?

1. You can become a Christian. No one is injured.

2. You can pretend to become a Christian. No one is injured.

3. You can run away. I might pursue you, leading to conflict, but, in regards to immediate consequences, no one is injured.

4. You can wait for me and fight. One of us is injured and/or killed.

5. You can wait for me and try to reason with me. I'm a crazed fanatical Christian, though, so you're going to end up dead.

6. You can combine any of the above, changing the outcome.

Seems like you have a lot of free will to me.

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
Seems like you have a lot of free will to me.

Hooray for ignoring options...and missing the entire point.

Lets do this step by step...hypotetically...assuming Christian dogma is correct.

1. We have free will.

2. This allows us to chose a religion.

3. The "one true god" wants us to be Christian.

4. Is we are not Christian (meaning the narrow definition of a "good" Christian) we get sent to hell.

But WAIT. We can choose any religion, but no matter what we choose, if its not Christianity...we "burn."

This contradicts statement 1. We cannot have free will in Christianity if this is correct. The choice is made under pressure.

JOE NUNEZ

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Hooray for ignoring options...and missing the entire point.

Lets do this step by step...hypotetically...assuming Christian dogma is correct.

1. We have free will.

2. This allows us to chose a religion.

3. The "one true god" wants us to be Christian.

4. Is we are not Christian (meaning the narrow definition of a "good" Christian) we get sent to hell.

But WAIT. We can choose any religion, but no matter what we choose, if its not Christianity...we "burn."

This contradicts statement 1. We cannot have free will in Christianity if this is correct. The choice is made under pressure.
Way to ignore the post.

God is just. To be just means that some things are rewarded while others are punished. Because we have sinned, we must be punished--and that punishment is death. However, because God loves us so, He has sent someone to die in our place so that we might not suffer the penalty for sin.

You are given the choice of accepting the scapegoat to take death instead of you.

Shakyamunison

Templares

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
I thought God was a good God, not an evil punisher..


God is good, anymore questions?

A good judge upholds justice and righteousness right? God is Judge of all the universe (higher than a supreme court justice). As Judge God must judge sinners and hold them accountable for breaking his laws (His Word). If God didn't punish the sinner for his/her sins then He would not be a good, righteous Judge. On the flip side God is also Love which is why He sent Jesus (His Son) to die for the sins of the whole world...man I just have to pause and thank God in my heart for His mercy....

God could have just thrown us all in Hell and locked the gates. But He didn't. He knows that He must judge sinners and hold them accountable but He loves us so much that He found another way to deal with our sins. But it involved a sacrifice: the very life of His own Son. God placed the sins of the whole world (those who have died, those living, and those who have yet to be born in sin) on Jesus and punished Him for our sins. Now that sin (our sins, not Jesus's sins because Jesus never sinned) have already been judged and punished God can extend mercy, grace, and forgiveness to anyone who asks for that forgiveness. But here is the only stipulation: since Jesus is the one Who did the suffering, and Who took our punishment for sin, then by virtue of this fact we must come to Jesus and ask for this forgiveness from sins. Otherwise we will suffer for our sins (because we choose to. Our sins have already been punished thanks to Jesus so there is no excuse for going to Hell when you die). Don't blame God. God made a way for us to skip Hell, if we reject it then we get what we deserve. The righteous Judge (God) has justly placed us where we belong.

FeceMan

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
God is just. You don't know this. Originally posted by FeceMan
To be just means that some things are rewarded while others are punished. Not true. Justice implies fair judgement. You do not have to punish to serve justice...you simply misunderstand the word. Originally posted by FeceMan
Because we have sinned, we must be punished--and that punishment is death. Sin is an arbitrary concept that is arbitrarily applied. And no. Death is never an acceptable punishment. And its a big jump from punishment to sin.Originally posted by FeceMan However, because God loves us so, . Agian you have no proof.Originally posted by FeceMan He has sent someone to die in our place so that we might not suffer the penalty for sin. He allegedly sent someone...who allegedly really sis not die. And its bull anyway, becuase that implies that no Jewsih folk ever went to heaven before Christ..Originally posted by FeceMan
You are given the choice of accepting the scapegoat to take death instead of you. Again, "Jesus" was not a scapegoat. Not by a longshot. And an all powerful god and free will cannot co-exist.

Basically, you are so blinded by your concept of Christianity, which you are told, I serously wonder if you are even capable of free thought.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
Then I would have to give up on the divine and end up like Lord Urizen.

What's so special about divine?

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
I thought God was a good God, not an evil punisher..
I responded to this post Joe.

Alliance
umm....nothing.

FeceMan
Originally posted by Alliance
Basically, you are so blinded by your concept of Christianity, which you are told, I serously wonder if you are even capable of free thought.
1. I am speaking from the Judeo-Christian perspective. The Bible--upon which the Judeo-Christian faith is founded--states that Yahweh is just. Therefore, Yahweh is just.

2. To give judgment means that one must judge (or "to act as a judge; pass judgment"wink. To judge is "to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person)" or "to hear evidence or legal arguments in (a case) in order to pass judgment; adjudicate; try" or "to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge".

3. It might seem to be unacceptable to you, but you have not stretch out your hand and marked off the dimension of the universe, you have not spoken to the waters and held them back with an utterance, and you have not seen the gates of deep shadow. You are not given the authority to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

4. See number one.

5. Too much 'allegedly' spoils the broth. And I believe that people were judged according to how they served the LORD by following the Law. However, I am uncertain, as I have stated in the past.

6. Jesus was, quite honestly, a scapegoat.

7. I've already explained to you why God and free-will can exist.

You are so blinded by your adamant disbelief that I seriously wonder if you can hold a rational conversation with someone.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by FeceMan
1. I am speaking from the Judeo-Christian perspective. The Bible--upon which the Judeo-Christian faith is founded--states that Yahweh is just. Therefore, Yahweh is just.

2. To give judgment means that one must judge (or "to act as a judge; pass judgment"wink. To judge is "to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person)" or "to hear evidence or legal arguments in (a case) in order to pass judgment; adjudicate; try" or "to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge".

3. It might seem to be unacceptable to you, but you have not stretch out your hand and marked off the dimension of the universe, you have not spoken to the waters and held them back with an utterance, and you have not seen the gates of deep shadow. You are not given the authority to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

4. See number one.

5. Too much 'allegedly' spoils the broth. And I believe that people were judged according to how they served the LORD by following the Law. However, I am uncertain, as I have stated in the past.

6. Jesus was, quite honestly, a scapegoat.

7. I've already explained to you why God and free-will can exist.

You are so blinded by your adamant disbelief that I seriously wonder if you can hold a rational conversation with someone.

Happy Dance laughing rolling on floor laughing big grin smile

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by FeceMan
1. I am speaking from the Judeo-Christian perspective. The Bible--upon which the Judeo-Christian faith is founded--states that Yahweh is just. Therefore, Yahweh is just.

2. To give judgment means that one must judge (or "to act as a judge; pass judgment"wink. To judge is "to pass legal judgment on; pass sentence on (a person)" or "to hear evidence or legal arguments in (a case) in order to pass judgment; adjudicate; try" or "to decide or settle authoritatively; adjudge".

3. It might seem to be unacceptable to you, but you have not stretch out your hand and marked off the dimension of the universe, you have not spoken to the waters and held them back with an utterance, and you have not seen the gates of deep shadow. You are not given the authority to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

4. See number one.

5. Too much 'allegedly' spoils the broth. And I believe that people were judged according to how they served the LORD by following the Law. However, I am uncertain, as I have stated in the past.

6. Jesus was, quite honestly, a scapegoat.

7. I've already explained to you why God and free-will can exist.

You are so blinded by your adamant disbelief that I seriously wonder if you can hold a rational conversation with someone.

You are so blinded by your adamant belief that I seriously wonder if you can hold a rational conversation with someone. wink

FeceMan
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are so blinded by your adamant belief that I seriously wonder if you can hold a rational conversation with someone. wink
Way to miss the reason why I was saying that.

ThePittman

ThePittman

Lord Urizen

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