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1st. 1 Celestial
2nd. Galactus and 1 Celestial( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
3rd. 3 Celestials and Galactus( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
4th. 4 Galactus and 3 Celestials( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
5th. Exitar and 5 Celestials
6th. 10 Galactus and all KNOWN celestials (not whole race )( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
7th. Whole race of Celestials
8th. Whole race of Celestials and 10 Galactus( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)

Stupid thread. LT clears it with ease.

Hmm, what/who is LT?

What stupid thread...when Krovac got his pwoers LT could not handle him and 10 100% galactus is better than the 6 abstracts...u think ur threads are very smart...

As you should already know by now, the fights are dealt with everyones high-end showings.

For example, when Adam Warlock had the IG and went onslaught on the abstracts. Everyone else was wiped out of existence except for the Living Tribunal, he just calmly sat on his chair. After the slaughter he instantly blinked all of them back for a hearing. His might dwarfed the IG while everyone and everything else was erased.

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
What stupid thread...when Krovac got his pwoers LT could not handle him.

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
What stupid thread...when Krovac got his pwoers LT could not handle him

I can't believe people still bring up that WHAT If garbage from 1982.


Ok here we go.


This ought to settle the Korvac and Living Tribunal dispute once and for all.

What was it that really happened?

How powerful was Korvac?

How did he become so powerful?

Was he more powerful than LT?

If LT attacked him, how did he survive?

These questions will ALL be answered now, and yes, ya know me, with ON PANEL proof as always.

Ok, after thoroughly researching the issue I found out several interesting facts.

To begin with What if's suck.

I will prove this conclusively..

Secondly, Korvac was not the mastermind of this issue, machinations far beyond even his scope were at work in helping him survive LT's assault.

This is the big moment of surprise and disappointment for all who thought Korvac was more powerful than LT.

Let's do it.

First ALL the positive showings of the issue, then I'll post the rediculousness of a What if comic.


First:

Korvac Absorbs ALL the power of these SIX cosmics, he had already absorbed Galactus's world ship, that gave him instant near-omnipotent power.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9373/korvacabsorb60dp.th.jpg

Korvac absorbs Galactus's world ship.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1017/korvacabsorbsg9uo.th.jpg

Korvac seals off his universe
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9540/korvacblockszeusandall7ga.th.jpg

LT penetrates Korvacs barrier to blow up the sun in this universe.
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2340/korvacvslt19lb.th.jpg

LT vaporizes a quarter of that solar system and Korvac survives,

LT caught by surprise by this, decides to leave this universe and seal Korvac in it.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9204/korvacvslt21rj.th.jpg

It would seem from that last scan that LT couldn't handle Korvac, so he fled, sealed the universe behind him and left that universe to whatever fate awaited it.


The Surprise:

It was Death that protected Korvac from LT, from annihilation, how?

Death simply didn't permit Korvac to die. How?

It's Death, just like Thanos isn't fazed by mortality because of Death, so she did the same for Korvac.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1210/korvacdeath2ox.th.jpg

Death was Korvac's unbidden ally-Death was Korvac's unwanted master.

Death manipulated all this, no wonder Korvac survived LT's punishment, Death who is the master of mortality and immortality, did not allow Korvac to die along with the earth.

Why?

Because Death wanted to kill Eternity and Death knew it could get Korvac to retrieve the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy Eternity, this was Death's plan all along.

Apparently even Death was unable to help Korvac withstand the UN though.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/249/korvacdeath21ns.th.jpg


courtesy of Mr Master

Now the reasons why we shouldn't use What If's in debates even if it includes LT:


Korvac with ALL his power, can't read a Celestial mind,
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7317/korvaccantreadcelestial1bc.th.jpg

Korvac CANNOT resurrect just anyone, only someone he kills. Yet he's "omnipotent", LOL.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6895/tressurect2ch.th.jpg

Korvac fears an Armada of beings that are coming to battle him from all over this universe, but he can kill and absorb some of the most powerful beings in the universe.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5641/korvacfearsarmada8wj.th.jpg
This is crap, with all his power he should be able to wipe this army out of existence.

Korvac absorbs every being on this earth to battle this armada.

He becomes so powerful he can sit on planet earth, like if it's a workout ball, but he's still going to rely on the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy this armada along with the universe.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9558/korvacabsorbsearth3do.th.jpg

Watcher breaks through Korvac's barrier like nothing, and this is after he absorbed every being on earth, even the visiting Celestials.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/565/korvacwatcherslipsin7sj.th.jpg

Korvac needs Ultimate Nullifier to destroy armada, nonsense, but it's a What If, so why complain.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6039/korvacneedsuntokillarmada1io.th.jpg

courtesy of Mr Master

Awesome scans,Mr Master.I have not seen that issue in many years.

LT wins this. It's not even a contest.

All of these threads involving abstracts running gauntlets are dumb

LT wins easily

Lt with ease

Living Tribunal...

LT would order them to stop and they would just go away. theres a reason the entire universe obeys his judgements.

LT wins..

Originally posted by David_Richards
LT would order them to stop and they would just go away. theres a reason the entire universe obeys his judgements.

You mean the Multiverse.

that wasnt with all his power that was before he absorbed many abstracts INCLUDING THE CELESTIALS HELLO, that he was at full power, and you can say this and that about multi death and stuff you have no real proof that thats what happend, thats just your prognosis nobody elses, LT didnt say oh death and oblivion are keeping him protected, and who cares if they said korvac was the servent of oblivion, is anyone who kills or destroys NOT the champion of death in one form or another but of course you interject your own interpretations into the battle and laugh off everyone else cause your the resident comic book expert so you say when there is no real on panal truth to what you say or enough proof to back it up, and if you say its just a what if then i guess that makes LT nothing but a liar when they say he has no counterparts, oh and for your info he once almost was defeated by a person who could copy powers.

Seriously, Mider99, you need to get into some sort of a writing class. I understand nothing of what are you saying. After all isn't English your mother tongue.

LT takes this while he's reading the morning paper on the damn toilet.

then why dont you read slower, its not that hard, maybe your mind is not sophisticated enough to slow down and put two things together, but anyway what im saying is mr masters explenation of how korvac whithstood the judgement of LT is pure hearsay, he dont have solid proof, ok so they said death was korvacs master, so what i thought LT was the strongest cosmic so obviously of Death can override his judgement she is the strongest, beside that its never stated on the panal that death did a damn thing for korvac he didnt die or was kept from dieing he used a sheild plain and simple, mr masters say korvac at full power cant read a celestials mind when he wasnt even at full power during that time, once again he loves twisting things to his own agenda, how is it possible that korvac is weaker then the celestials if he absorbed the host later on in that comic, he absorbed them along with some big time cosmics after which THEN he was at full power not before, he was above skyfather level maybe on a cosmic cube level at the time he tried to read the celestial mind i say that cause he was above odin yet below the celestials but was still able to lock off the entire universe in every way.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Apparently even Death was unable to help Korvac withstand the UN though.

That could be than argued that UN is more powerful than LT, which we know it isn't.
Or maybe Death didn't want to protect Korvac from than on when LT left.

So now I'm not sophisticated enough, hah. The fact is you can't write, at all and I'm not the only one here thinking so. You don't use dots anywhere. That kind of writing was called "toilet paper writing" in school, 2nd grade.

However, no more of that for now. If LT really wanted he definitely could have erased Korvac out of existence, along with the Death if necessary. He didn't even directly attack Korvac.

Funny that Korvac can't even resurrect heroes, (not even talking about abstracts) unless he has killed them by himself. Yet LT blinked a bunch of abstracts back in an instant after they were taken out by Adam Warlock with the IG.

Originally posted by Mider999
mr masters say korvac at full power cant read a celestials mind when he wasnt even at full power during that time, once again he loves twisting things to his own agenda, how is it possible that korvac is weaker then the celestials if he absorbed the host later on in that comic,

Dude, go read comics.


Korvac had Absobed Galactus's SHIP, he had the Power of the UNIVERSE, and could NOT read that Celestials mind.

The point I was making, is how STUPID What If's are.

Korvac had already Absorbed Galactus's Ship
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5086/k1yo0.th.jpg

Korvac had already sealed off his Universe
http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/3940/k2wl4.th.jpg

And STILL, Korvac with ALL his power, can't read a Celestial mind,
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/7317/korvaccantreadcelestial1bc.th.jpg


On the issue of whether Death helped Korvac survive:


"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED.
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5933/d1to8.th.jpg
"By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE "



"DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY"....
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/79/d2ec2.th.jpg
"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"

This is PLAIN ENGLISH.

Next time research before you accuse another of twisting anything.

The only one who can beat LT is TOAA or Jesus

Besides all LT showings were just M - bodies, we've never seen the real LT I don't think.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Besides all LT showings were just M - bodies, we've never seen the real LT I don't think.

Living Tribunal clears it

He's above Death.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3640/silversurfer198903120cx9.th.jpg

Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
1st. 1 Celestial
2nd. Galactus and 1 Celestial( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
3rd. 3 Celestials and Galactus( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
4th. 4 Galactus and 3 Celestials( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
5th. Exitar and 5 Celestials
6th. 10 Galactus and all KNOWN celestials (not whole race )( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)
7th. Whole race of Celestials
8th. Whole race of Celestials and 10 Galactus( 100% Galactus And Normal Celestial)


Are you kidding me ?

Originally posted by Grimm22
The only one who can beat LT is TOAA or Jesus


Jesus couldn't do jack shit to LT.


TOAA is not the same mythical God you beleive in. Get over it already

LT snaps his finger...it's all over.

Originally posted by Kallark-Kent
LT takes this while he's reading the morning paper on the damn toilet.

lol agreed 100%