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Lord Urizen

Lord Urizen
Yeah i knew it, nobody wants to talk about it. Just pretend it doesn't exist...

You f*cks

Alliance
nuke

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Alliance
nuke


laughing

Regret
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yeah i knew it, nobody wants to talk about it. Just pretend it doesn't exist...

You f*cks

Lol, I just believe you and those that hold this view are misinterpreting the text.

There isn't reason to debate this with you, you have shown to be too opinionated on the subject of homosexuality. You belittle those that discuss the topic with you and are often offensive with those that discuss homosexuality without agreeing with you. Many would discuss other topics with you, but most have come to the decision that the subject of homosexuality is not a worthwhile topic to debate with you. Don't insult people because you have made discussion of the topic with you of little worth to many.

I did not mean this to be offensive, just stating what the situation appears to be from my perspective.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Regret
Lol, I just believe you and those that hold this view are misinterpreting the text.

There isn't reason to debate this with you, you have shown to be too opinionated on the subject of homosexuality. You belittle those that discuss the topic with you and are often offensive with those that discuss homosexuality without agreeing with you. Many would discuss other topics with you, but most have come to the decision that the subject of homosexuality is not a worthwhile topic to debate with you. Don't insult people because you have made discussion of the topic with you of little worth to many.

I did not mean this to be offensive, just stating what the situation appears to be from my perspective.


OR

People just don't wanna address the subject. wink

Regret
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
OR

People just don't wanna address the subject. wink

Some of them probably don't, you do tend to have valid points when you are not giving in to the emotional side of your view.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Regret
Some of them probably don't, you do tend to have valid points when you are not giving in to the emotional side of your view.

True yes

But most of the time my emotional responses are given to emotional-based answers.

Regret
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
True yes

But most of the time my emotional responses are given to emotional-based answers.

Lol, that is also true laughing

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Regret
Lol, that is also true laughing

droolio

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Regret
Lol, I just believe you and those that hold this view are misinterpreting the text.

There isn't reason to debate this with you, you have shown to be too opinionated on the subject of homosexuality. You belittle those that discuss the topic with you and are often offensive with those that discuss homosexuality without agreeing with you. Many would discuss other topics with you, but most have come to the decision that the subject of homosexuality is not a worthwhile topic to debate with you. Don't insult people because you have made discussion of the topic with you of little worth to many.

I did not mean this to be offensive, just stating what the situation appears to be from my perspective.

Exxxxxxxxxactly. Friends can be friends and even love each other strongly without it crossing the line into homosexuality. I know that I have childhood homies that I love--AS FRIENDS AND BROTHERS ONLY THOUGH. Don't get it twisted.

debbiejo
What bible did you get this from??????? King James, NIV?, ...........CURIOUS.

Alliance
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Exxxxxxxxxactly. Friends can be friends and even love each other strongly without it crossing the line into homosexuality. I know that I have childhood homies that I love--AS FRIENDS AND BROTHERS ONLY THOUGH. Don't get it twisted.

Twisted like your opinons?

Homesexuality has always been a part of human culture and bisexual and homosexuals have been significant parts of human society.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by debbiejo
What bible did you get this from??????? King James, NIV?, ...........CURIOUS.

Did who?

Alliance
debbie was talking to Urizen.

debbiejo
Yes, what version of the bible did he get this from..........there are many

Alliance
like 1423 different versions.

debbiejo
I want to see it in the 1500's or the 1600's Geneva Bible....1644...........Or the old King James, hmmmmmmmmmmm cant remember now, Oh yes. 1611.................show these same verses from that more original scripture........

JesusIsAlive

Alfheim

Slyððering
JesusIsAlive> Sorry to disagree with you, but I can't see any mention of sodomy (which in actuallity can describe any "dirty" sexual act, and not just anal sex) in those quotes. It seems a little too vague for me to decide whether or not you are right.

I s'pose it is really up to your imagination, then.

JesusIsAlive

Shakyamunison

Slyððering

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Exxxxxxxxxactly. Friends can be friends and even love each other strongly without it crossing the line into homosexuality. I know that I have childhood homies that I love--AS FRIENDS AND BROTHERS ONLY THOUGH. Don't get it twisted.


Homosexuality is not about freindship...it is about Love or sexual attraction or both.....freindship is freindship without sexuality of anykind, including heterosexual....

You're point, as always, is mute and irrelevant. You obviously know nothing of homosexuality or bisexuality as you always assume it is about dirty lust.....

FeceMan
Sodom and Gomorrah's sin wasn't homosexuality, it was...you know, gang-rape.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by FeceMan
Sodom and Gomorrah's sin wasn't homosexuality, it was...you know, gang-rape.

Which is a completely different, and more understandable cause for severe punishment (or atleast in my opinion)

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by FeceMan
Sodom and Gomorrah's sin wasn't homosexuality, it was...you know, gang-rape.

I'd be much more happy if that was the case, though it begs the question why so many Christian's use it to support the anti-homosexual stance of the Church.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I'd be much more happy if that was the case, though it begs the question why so many Christian's use it to support the anti-homosexual stance of the Church.

Yes Yes yes

FeceMan
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I'd be much more happy if that was the case, though it begs the question why so many Christian's use it to support the anti-homosexual stance of the Church.
Because they ignore the fact that homosexual men aren't likely to produce (or compose) a city's worth of children and the scripture that specifically mentions that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was "inhospitality".

What with the gang rape. And the other forms of wickedness.

Imperial_Samura
Originally posted by FeceMan
Because they ignore the fact that homosexual men aren't likely to produce (or compose) a city's worth of children and the scripture that specifically mentions that the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was "inhospitality".

What with the gang rape. And the other forms of wickedness.

That would make sense... so you fully support gay equality and the proposition (the logical and just one) that there is nothing sinful about them?

debbiejo
The view of Josephus
Flavius Josephus, a Romano-Jewish historian, wrote:

"Now, about this time the Sodomites, overweeningly proud of their numbers and the extent of their wealth, showed themselves insolent to men and impious to the Divinity, insomuch that they no more remembered the benefits that they had received from Him, hated foreigners and avoided any contact with others. Indignant at this conduct, God accordingly resolved to chastise them for their arrogance, and not only to uproot their city, but to blast their land so completely that it should yield neither plant nor fruit whatsoever from that time forward." Jewish Antiquities 1:194-195

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by debbiejo
The view of Josephus
Flavius Josephus, a Romano-Jewish historian, wrote:

"Now, about this time the Sodomites, overweeningly proud of their numbers and the extent of their wealth, showed themselves insolent to men and impious to the Divinity, insomuch that they no more remembered the benefits that they had received from Him, hated foreigners and avoided any contact with others. Indignant at this conduct, God accordingly resolved to chastise them for their arrogance, and not only to uproot their city, but to blast their land so completely that it should yield neither plant nor fruit whatsoever from that time forward." Jewish Antiquities 1:194-195


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