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Is Spawn really as powerful as people say he is? Now I read Spawn from issue one up to one hundred then stopped reading until... I'm not sure the issue (I don't have my comics with me) but Spawn is on the cover with his cloak around his head holding a machine gun, so I'm sure I missed some stuff but even so I just don't see Spawn being that powerful. It just seems to me that his feats are so vague and ambiguous that it requires the reader to just assume that he needs to be powerful to do them... but they just don't appear that impressive certainly not enough to warrant someone saying he is a match for Silver Surfer. However the majority of people seem pretty adamant on Spawns power level... which I find perplexing to say the least. I have gone through the Spawn respect thread and I still just don't get it. Am I the only one who thinks Spawns feats are too ambigous to have earned him the power people seem to think he has... or are the issues I missed vital in character development (even though I have seen scans and know roughly what took place).

I agree with you. Sure we have heard about him and Angela taking on a weakened Malebolgia, but where exactly does that place him in regards to power?

Great thread srankmissingnin, I am very interested in seeing how this thread develops.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
I agree with you. Sure we have heard about him and Angela taking on a weakened Malebolgia, but where exactly does that place him in regards to power?

Great thread srankmissingnin, I am very interested in seeing how this thread develops.

Thanks a lot. I'm interested to see what comes from this too... even if it ends up being only Spawn fans taking a bit out of me. lol

The thread starter of the Spawn vs Surfer thread seemed to state that it was 2nd Age Spawn for that fight. This refers to Spawn after he had just killed Malebolgia and took over the throne of Hell. As a result, he became God-like in power with a seemingly infinite supply of energy, as well s the ability to pull any power out of his ass.

Some of his most notable powers included the ability to freeze time with just a twitch of his fingers, to hear the thoughts of every one in a wide area, and blasts that could melt the gates of Heaven. I know there were others, but I'm having trouble remembering them at the moment.

Currently, however, he is not that powerful any more, since his power was usurped.

Where would that leave him in regards to power?

Spawn confuses me greatly, granted I don't read Spawn comics at all so that is probably why.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
Where would that leave him in regards to power?

Spawn confuses me greatly, granted I don't read Spawn comics at all so that is probably why. Ok first age Spawn is the one that killed Malebogia, fought Urizen.
Second age Spawn was ruler of hell basically, and gained a massive boost.(this is generally the Spawn we use in debates.)

I grabbed my hubby for this one:

First age: Around Herald of Galactus level. Maybe around Firelord.
Second Age: Thanos level
Third age: around Silver Surfer

Thanks to both of you, especially BloodyAngel for relating him to characters I am familar with.

Not a problem. My husband is a huge Spawn fan, so it wasn't a big deal for him. He got me addicted to the animation, but he hasn't gotten any comics yet.

Weren't people saying spawn was skyfather level?

K, I've still never even seen Spawn that was herald level it was just like the thread starter said, he would do something, I'd think "oh, guess he can do that" but it never really a definitive sort of thing for. Practically his entire moveset and abilities are vague to me. This is why I generally avoid Spawn threads

He's kinda like a magic user in a sense.

second age spawn around thanos level??????? what! since when does thanos stop time, or have the power to melt image heavens gates, or is able to grow to the size of a skyscraper, i agree that first age spawn might be around herald level but second age spawn around thanos wow thats lame, anyway third age spawn is a weird being, he defeated urizen cause he had the green world power meaning all the powers of nature he hasnt used it much since which is dumb i guess, he defeated malbolgia with angela's help and malbolgia was weak, only reason he won is cause he has that lance i think, if it was full powered malbolgia they was fighting they both would probably have died horribly, second age spawn was even stronger then malbolgia cause he could hold angel's lance which kills or is suppose to kill anything from hell, even before second age he could hold it it would really really damage him but he didnt die which is suprising, he still beat angela by making her powers overload or something, third age spawn we dont know his power level i dont anyway but he has the legion supposidly this makes him more powerful then malbolgia ever was.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Weren't people saying spawn was skyfather level?
Back when the respect thread was first put up, they were saying Spawn was as powerful as the Infinity Gauntlet.

Omg.

i dont think he is as powerful as the infinity gauntlet even with malbolgias power's there where beings stronger then malbolgia, such mammon, and of course the image version of the devil and god, then you wanna get technical the cosmic mother is even higher makes you wonder if she's even higher then the one above all since image's god and devil may be up there with TOAA i say this cause they have the power to take on cosmic level entities well there underlings have which says alot about there power, but then again even heaven and hell could only contain urizen meaning maybe the green world is equal to god and the devil of image.

Malbolgias was beaten by Chapel in his own Realm.. CHAPEL for crying out loud....

Originally posted by Mider999
second age spawn around thanos level??????? what! since when does thanos stop time, or have the power to melt image heavens gates, or is able to grow to the size of a skyscraper, i agree that first age spawn might be around herald level but second age spawn around thanos wow thats lame, anyway third age spawn is a weird being, he defeated urizen cause he had the green world power meaning all the powers of nature he hasnt used it much since which is dumb i guess, he defeated malbolgia with angela's help and malbolgia was weak, only reason he won is cause he has that lance i think, if it was full powered malbolgia they was fighting they both would probably have died horribly, second age spawn was even stronger then malbolgia cause he could hold angel's lance which kills or is suppose to kill anything from hell, even before second age he could hold it it would really really damage him but he didnt die which is suprising, he still beat angela by making her powers overload or something, third age spawn we dont know his power level i dont anyway but he has the legion supposidly this makes him more powerful then malbolgia ever was.

WRONG

Please Stop Mider. PLEASE!

First Age Spawn picked up the weapon from hevean twice the first time he got blasted into a pool of Necroplasma and the second time nothing happened. Also, Angela really didn't do much or anything since she got killed in that fight. Third Age Spawn's powers is really up in the air sense we really don't know what he can do. But we do know his powers is unlimited.

Originally posted by Rols
Malbolgias was beaten by Chapel in his own Realm.. CHAPEL for crying out loud....

I don't know what you are talking about but that was Non-Canon.

Also, you might be new to Spawn comics or even comics and I want to let you know that not all crossovers Canon. Not even all of the Spawn comic series related to each other.

Example.

Curse of The Spawn is not related to The Main Spawn title.

Im talkin about Extreme Sacrifices and its Cannon, since its continuity..
I dont know much about Spawn dough..

What!?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8748/chapelra5.th.jpg
Graves VS Chapel Lord of Hell...
Extreme Sacrifice.. This crossover also includes Spawn issues, continuity which means its cannon.. He was defeated by New Son..

Originally posted by Validus
Back when the respect thread was first put up, they were saying Spawn was as powerful as the Infinity Gauntlet. I blame that on Wickerman... though partially Spawn has no limits... but the IG is a stretch.

i dont care if it is in continuity if chapel was mortal and malbolgia is at full power its total super uber ultimate PIS, its like thanos losing to a three year old girl.

It says Chapel became Malboglias servant kinda like Spawn he overthrown him and acquired his powers, similar way Spawn beat Malboglia.. Malboglia Chapel was beaten not by Celestial power dough or whatever it is his weak, thats what im trying to figure out if a powerfull, very destructive blast could affect/Injure 2nd age Spawn..

I just don't get the character itself at all.

Spawn is just Spiderman with Dr.Strange's cape and a few of his powers.

Sorry, but it's a stinker of a comic.

reason he dont show off so much power is cause his power has a limit why do you think they made the second age cause now he dont have a limit, and third age the legion is suppose to make him stronger then malbolgia and the cosmic mother is offering him even greater power, the green world should make him pretty powerful too, he aint spiderman or dr strange, he may be just a hellspawn but he's been more powerful then malbolgia since he was first created of course this power was hidden away.

Originally posted by Rols
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8748/chapelra5.th.jpg
Graves VS Chapel Lord of Hell...
Extreme Sacrifice.. This crossover also includes Spawn issues, continuity which means its cannon.. He was defeated by New Son..

Hmmm no buddy

Try again

Originally posted by Milkie
Hmmm no buddy

Try again

Im pretty sure this series is tied up to 1 or a few issues of Spawn series, so thats gotta be cannon...

if its not in continuity its not cannon, meaning if the spawn comic says chapel killed spawn then its in continuity but as far as we known it was angela and spawn who did him in not chapel.

Originally posted by Mider999
if its not in continuity its not cannon, meaning if the spawn comic says chapel killed spawn then its in continuity but as far as we known it was angela and spawn who did him in not chapel.
Ohhh, i get it.. But this version of Chapel happened in the future, same w/ Crypt who is the Prophets version in the future.. So Either Malboglia took His throne back defeating Spawn then Malboglia made Chapel his servant then once again servant defeated master which seems to happen a lot w/ Malboglia... Making Chapel the new lord of hell...

Ohhh, i get it.. But this version of Chapel happened in the future, same w/ Crypt who is the Prophets version in the future.. So Either Malboglia took His throne back defeating Spawn then Malboglia made Chapel his servant then once again servant defeated master which seems to happen a lot w/ Malboglia... Making Chapel the new lord of hell...

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Dude Malebogia's dead, for sure. There is a lot of future comics for Marvel and D.C but there not cannon.

Originally posted by Takion
Ohhh, i get it.. But this version of Chapel happened in the future, same w/ Crypt who is the Prophets version in the future.. So Either Malboglia took His throne back defeating Spawn then Malboglia made Chapel his servant then once again servant defeated master which seems to happen a lot w/ Malboglia... Making Chapel the new lord of hell...

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Dude Malebogia's dead, for sure. There is a lot of future comics for Marvel and D.C but there not cannon.

Well it dont really matter... But im still inclined to question the cannoness (lol) of the crossover..

Originally posted by Mider999
second age spawn around thanos level??????? what! since when does thanos stop time, or have the power to melt image heavens gates, or is able to grow to the size of a skyscraper, i agree that first age spawn might be around herald level but second age spawn around thanos wow thats lame, anyway third age spawn is a weird being, he defeated urizen cause he had the green world power meaning all the powers of nature he hasnt used it much since which is dumb i guess, he defeated malbolgia with angela's help and malbolgia was weak, only reason he won is cause he has that lance i think, if it was full powered malbolgia they was fighting they both would probably have died horribly, second age spawn was even stronger then malbolgia cause he could hold angel's lance which kills or is suppose to kill anything from hell, even before second age he could hold it it would really really damage him but he didnt die which is suprising, he still beat angela by making her powers overload or something, third age spawn we dont know his power level i dont anyway but he has the legion supposidly this makes him more powerful then malbolgia ever was.

Second Age Spawn is actually more powerful than Thanos

Originally posted by long pig
I just don't get the character itself at all.

Spawn is just Spiderman with Dr.Strange's cape and a few of his powers.

Sorry, but it's a stinker of a comic.

You obviously don't read it.....else you'd know what the hell you were talking about

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Is Spawn really as powerful as people say he is? Now I read Spawn from issue one up to one hundred then stopped reading until... I'm not sure the issue (I don't have my comics with me) but Spawn is on the cover with his cloak around his head holding a machine gun, so I'm sure I missed some stuff but even so I just don't see Spawn being that powerful. It just seems to me that his feats are so vague and ambiguous that it requires the reader to just assume that he needs to be powerful to do them... but they just don't appear that impressive certainly not enough to warrant someone saying he is a match for Silver Surfer. However the majority of people seem pretty adamant on Spawns power level... which I find perplexing to say the least. I have gone through the Spawn respect thread and I still just don't get it. Am I the only one who thinks Spawns feats are too ambigous to have earned him the power people seem to think he has... or are the issues I missed vital in character development (even though I have seen scans and know roughly what took place).


Apparently, you do not read the comic.....this was the same reaction I got when people on this forum claimed that Lucifer Morningstar was so powerful, but from some of his comic issues i never got that impression.....

Dude, here are some feats Spawn has done that puts him way above Superman, Thanos, and the like:


1) Decapitated Malebolgia, ruler of the 8th level of Hell

2) Shut down Mammon, most powerful demon in Hell (actuall he's a fallen angel, who is 1000 times greater in power than Malebolgia

3) Survived being vaporized by Angela's lance the first time he held it, and normally that lance has the power to delete demons from existance...Spawn came back after being "deleted"

4) Defeated Urizen, an Ancient Dark God who was so powerful, it took the combined might of Heaven and Hell to lock him up the first time...he defeated Urizen by commanding the Earth to open up, devour and imprison him.

5) Spawn has survived being decapitated, ripped to shreds, shot millions of times, being burnt alive, being impaled, being horrible tortured, etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

No one is as versatile as Spawn when it comes to being physically damaged, not even Lobo or Hulk

And those are only a few things he has done...other than stop time, kill angels and demons alike, appear in people's nightmares intentionally, etc.



What exactly is Spawn?

Not only is Spawn an uber powerful demon, but he also is linked the thousands and thousands of other "spawns" who live inside him as of now. Thier souls are one with his own, and therefore he is the conduit for an entire legion of powerful demons like himself....

Sorry bro...but Spiderman aint got nothing on Spawn, the only person who may stand a chance is Thanos, and ONLY because Thanos is so damn intelligent....Thanos's strength alone is not enough to put Spawn to an end....

In fact Spawn can destroy Thanos in so many ways....not easily, but he can do it nonetheless.

http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chapelra5.jpg
Do you happen to know who that guy in the scan is.. His supposedly ruler of hell as well but got kicked out... Goes by the name of Graves? I dont really follow Spawn or Youngblood or Prophets... etc..

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Apparently, you do not read the comic.....this was the same reaction I got when people on this forum claimed that Lucifer Morningstar was so powerful, but from some of his comic issues i never got that impression.....

Dude, here are some feats Spawn has done that puts him way above Superman, Thanos, and the like:


1) Decapitated Malebolgia, ruler of the 8th level of Hell

2) Shut down Mammon, most powerful demon in Hell (actuall he's a fallen angel, who is 1000 times greater in power than Malebolgia

3) Survived being vaporized by Angela's lance the first time he held it, and normally that lance has the power to delete demons from existance...Spawn came back after being "deleted"

4) Defeated Urizen, an Ancient Dark God who was so powerful, it took the combined might of Heaven and Hell to lock him up the first time...he defeated Urizen by commanding the Earth to open up, devour and imprison him.

5) Spawn has survived being decapitated, ripped to shreds, shot millions of times, being burnt alive, being impaled, being horrible tortured, etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

No one is as versatile as Spawn when it comes to being physically damaged, not even Lobo or Hulk

And those are only a few things he has done...other than stop time, kill angels and demons alike, appear in people's nightmares intentionally, etc.



What exactly is Spawn?

Not only is Spawn an uber powerful demon, but he also is linked the thousands and thousands of other "spawns" who live inside him as of now. Thier souls are one with his own, and therefore he is the conduit for an entire legion of powerful demons like himself....

Sorry bro...but Spiderman aint got nothing on Spawn, the only person who may stand a chance is Thanos, and ONLY because Thanos is so damn intelligent....Thanos's strength alone is not enough to put Spawn to an end....

In fact Spawn can destroy Thanos in so many ways....not easily, but he can do it nonetheless.

true...

his powers arent vague at all...

if he's shown to do it in the comic then thats it, plain and simple...

kinda like the speedblitz and t-vo, if its in superman's powerset then hey...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What exactly is Spawn?

Not only is Spawn an uber powerful demon, but he also is linked the thousands and thousands of other "spawns" who live inside him as of now. Thier souls are one with his own, and therefore he is the conduit for an entire legion of powerful demons like himself....

Actually they are not Hellspawn.

They are souls that can Al can use to turned them into Hellspawn.

In one of the very first issues, Spawn played Alien. Only really powerful characters can do stuff like that.

Originally posted by Milkie
Actually they are not Hellspawn.

They are souls that can Al can use to turned them into Hellspawn.

Yes they are hellspawn....they weren't created by Malebolgia, but the "cosmic mother" who implanted them into Spawn's heart caused them to become new hellspawn...

Chris was a hellspawn before Al "turned" him into one, Al Simmons didn't even realize what or who Chris was....

Been a long time since I read Spawn and youngblood stuff, but didn't it turn out that Chapel was actually the real ruler of hell, but just forgot or something?

Originally posted by Juntai
Been a long time since I read Spawn and youngblood stuff, but didn't it turn out that Chapel was actually the real ruler of hell, but just forgot or something?

Not in the current Spawn series, that's a spin off story...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes they are hellspawn....they weren't created by Malebolgia, but the "cosmic mother" who implanted them into Spawn's heart caused them to become new hellspawn...

Chris was a hellspawn before Al "turned" him into one, Al Simmons didn't even realize what or who Chris was....

No

They are lost souls that neither went to heaven or hell

Originally posted by Milkie
No

They are lost souls that neither went to heaven or hell

Did you actually READ the comic book ??????


The cosmic mother told Spawn that at the SAME HOUR he became a hellspawn, she took the souls of every person who died that hour and implanted them within Spawn's heart.

They are NOT just random lost souls....they were intentionally connected with Spawn by M.O.M.....through him they become hellspawns, not voluntarily...Spawn wasn't even aware the Legion existed within him....

Chris was NOT turned into a Hellspawn by Spawn, Chris was already one before he even MET Spawn


The cosmic mother/man of miracles/Kali MADE those souls into hellspawns when she implanted them within Spawn's heart.

GEt your facts straight bro...

No Buddy

When Spawn summons this souls they are created from his body (costume)

Spawn is a cool character, but his book sucks

Originally posted by Grimm22
Spawn is a cool character, but his book sucks Much better than FF

Currently?

Eh the last couple of issues have been good, but the rest of JMS's run has been awful

However, Waid and Wiendigo's run was the best run since John Bryne lead the FF in the 80's

Originally posted by Grimm22
Currently?

Eh the last couple of issues have been good, but the rest of JMS's run has been awful

However, Waid and Wiendigo's run was the best run since John Bryne lead the FF in the 80's Spawns been great with armageddon taking place.

Originally posted by Milkie
No Buddy

When Spawn summons this souls they are created from his body (costume)

Does not matter....they are hellspawns none the less, and not because of Spawn, but because of the cosmic mother/Kali/m.o.m. who linked them to his heart and the time Malebolgia re-created him...

Chris was a hellspawn before Spawn was even aware of his existance (when his heart was the only body part left after Disciple ripped him up the first time)

Explain how that happened...