Savage Dragon Vs Namor

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Who wins ?

Savage Dragon Vs Namor

I don't know if this has been made, I doubt it seeing as I haven't saw a SD fan apart from me.

Some scans....

Originally posted by Accel
All the following scans are courtesy of AP.

Here's a fight against a much stronger foe in which he uses his speed, agility, and fighting prowess on top of his strength. Yes, Bedrock was a crappy Rob Liefeld character, but we all remember Youngblood and how powerful they were despite most of them being rip-offs.
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Not only does he beat Bedrock, but he arrests him afterwards! Also notice how he leaps from the lake back to the city in a few seconds.

Nice coordination feat-
Here is shooting six bullets into ONE HOLE during target practice:
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Agility-
Here he is being lured into a mall by three members of the Vicious Circle. They start throwing crowds of people at him, so he catches a few and then leaps at them to stop them. One of the VC guys by the name of Hellrazor holds a small child up as a shield once Dragon is in mid-air. Dragon is now only inches away from splattering the kid.
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And here he is, flipping while in mid-air to avoid the kid. Not only does he do that, but he also grabs Hellrazor by the head, kicks the two Vicious Circle goons behind him, and as he finishes the flip, he bodyslams Hellrazor into the ground.
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Durability:
Here he is in a ship that blows up while he's still inside. He then falls several hundred feet and is fine. It should be noted that fire/explosions have had no effect on Dragon in the past, so the fall is really more of a threat than anything and he's still healthy enough to get up, run, and give an exposition.
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Strength:
Almost every scan will show Dragon's strength in one form or another, but here he is using hand, neck, jaw, and back strength to... well, you can see for yourself.
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Originally posted by Accel
Healing Abilities:
With healing powers one must first begin at the initial ass-whupp'n. This particular ass-whupp'n is the worst that Dragon ever had. The guy he's fighting is Overlord who was the leader of the Vicious Circle at the time. He was a maffioso who had a guy by the name of Cyberface make a suit of armor that would be powerful enough to keep the small army of super-villians in line. It did that quite well and in their first encounter, Dragon learned how powerful the damn suit was.
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While Dragon is impaled on the spike, there's a big snowstorm and he's up there for two weeks. His healing kicks in and he starts pulling himself off the spike. Keep in mind, this is early in his series and he has since displayed an even faster healing ability.
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Two VC guys find him (Hellrazor again and Cutthroat) and start to beat him and slice him up some more. He fights them off and tries to get away, only to find himself trapped, so he turns back around and decides to fight with one arm, a huge hole through his body, and a few gallons of blood-loss.
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And his arm comes back later that night:
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Here he is in Round 2 with Overlord. Here, we see OL blow the top off his skyscraper and atomize an entire room filled with cops. The blast only destroys the Dragon's top layer of skin. We also see Dragon's aim on display once again.
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And now something that should've happened to Robocop a looong time ago...
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Here he is losing an arm in battle and deciding to use it as a weapon:
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Originally posted by Accel
Resistance to mind control:

There are a handful of telepaths on the Vicious Circle (including Hitler's brain. heh) that have been able to control Dragon only to a certain degree. He adapts to it almost immediately.

At one point, a villain named the Possessor controlled half the planet, yet Dragon was only affected briefly and then snapped out of it.

The only villain that controlled Dragon was a small leech. These leeches popped up a lot for the first six years or so before being revealed to be not only an old Mighty Man foe, but they were created by an ancient being that was an enemy to Fon-ti, the creator of Mighty Man.

It made Dragon go crazy and he ended up destroying half of Chicago and beating the crap out of a few heroes and a group of homeless metahumans who had previously kept the VC out of their domain. It was eventually squashed on accident in a fight right before Dragon defeated his last enemy and came back.

Here is what happened the second time a leech got on him.
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And then the leeches took over Fon-ti and subsequently mind-controled almost every member of the Vicious Circle except for one. This creature was called Horde and tried to unleash a whole group of leeches to control Dragon and it still did not work.
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Originally posted by Accel
Random Dragon Stuff

Here's Dragon carrying on a conversation with his ex-girlfriend's zombie despite having a demon put her hand completely through his body. The first page had double-page spread panels, so it was a bit hard getting it all in there, so a few word balloons are cut off.
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That same demon transported Dragon to Hell where she took Overlord's soul and powered him up for a hilarious one-page fight.
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And here's a fight between him and Hellboy. Brainape is controlling both Hellboy and Dragon for a while, but you can see Dragon gradually taking back control. It only happens for a few pages and Brainape is completely unable to do that anymore in the next several encounters.
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Dragon fights Thor and then smaller gods:
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Dragon vs Powerhouse, round 1:
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Dragon vs Powerhouse, round 2:
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I debated against D.C one before with popularity and I hope I done well enough for him to debate someone as low ln the food chain as me.

I will debate for him.

Namor wins 6/10

I say SD wins 6/10. His healing factor is crazy. I don't see Namor being able to knock him out, or kill him before SD gets a KO blow on Namor.

And he wont have a problem with the flying either.

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Uh-huh.

Nope. Don't believe you. Sorry. Namor goes toe-to-toe with the entire FF and (in case you're curious) I didn't see anything like that in SD's respect thread. Sure the guy has a wicked healing factor but Namor can deal with that to.

Namor's got the goods and he knows how to use them.

BTW you can't negate Namor's ability to fly simply because SD put down a super chicken.

triple...holy crap what's wrong with this computer?

Double

Originally posted by Psyquis52
Uh-huh.

Nope. Don't believe you. Sorry. Namor goes toe-to-toe with the entire FF and (in case you're curious) I didn't see anything like that in SD's respect thread. Sure the guy has a wicked healing factor but Namor can deal with that to.

Namor's got the goods and he knows how to use them.

BTW you can't negate Namor's ability to fly simply because SD put down a super chicken.

Thats your first mistake. Underestimating Powrhouse [chicken head 😛 ]

Heres some info of him.

Powerhouse, a super-powered comic book character featured in the series The Savage Dragon, published by Image Comics. He was a costumed criminal for much of his appearances, but has on occasion acted heriocally. His appearance is that of a humanoid bird, with a covering of yellow feathers and a beak instead of a human nose and mouth; in Savage Dragon stories, his appearance is most often compared to that of a chicken, particularly the similarly-colored San Diego Chicken. Powerhouse's appearance is the epitome of the theme in Savage Dragon of mutated humans as a lesser class of people; he strives to be taken seriously despite an appearance that many, even other mutated individuals, find comical. He possesses the powers of flight, superhuman strength in the range of several tons, and high resistance to injury, being able to withstand conventional weaponry as well as physical damage from others of comparable strength.

Here is a Fight ith a mind cotrolling ape. With the brain of Hitler.

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Here, we have the realization that Horde has taken control of the Vicious Circle. Powerhouse is held down, but is able to pluck the leech from his neck before getting taken over. He then forces his way out fo the hideout despite being surrounded by the entire Vicous Circle gang (here, we can see how many of them there are and this is after a few gang wars and such, where many fo them were killed).

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And here, we see Powerhouse after he was teleported from Godworld into the SOS headquarters. He's in a room filled with metahumans once again, yet avoids capture quite easily

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Also notice how fast he picks up speed whiel flying in the SD fights.

I have shown you why flying wont help. Also drign that fight SD was talking to him while battling him.
And your only taking his healing factor into consideration. He is incredibly fast. Incredibly strong, and great durabilty. Look at these scans.

This is Namor falling and how he reacts:

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And this is SD falling and how he reacts:

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SD also was in it while it exploded, so caused greater damage.

If SD was smart enough to realize that Namor flys by his wings then he can neutrelize his flying advantage. And I'm sure he is smart enough to
figger it out. Here he is using his brains in battle.

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Namor tends to go toe to toe with his oponents. SD is proberly on the same level as Namor with strength but SD uses his other abilitys.

Here's a fight against a much stronger foe in which he uses his speed, agility, and fighting prowess on top of his strength. Yes, Bedrock was a Rob Liefeld character, but we all remember Youngblood and how powerful they were despite most of them being rip-offs.

http://www.upkb.com/images/q9c33625.jpg
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Thats my counter. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Psyquis52
triple...holy crap what's wrong with this computer?
😆 What the hell ??