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Ok, so this is one thing that I'm somewhat of a firm believer in, more so than time travel, aliens, and what not.

I really do feel that there are different parallel universes in existence out there. A collection of different dimensions within our own world in and of itself, each with it's own unique reality.

In other words just to put it rather simplistically, I believe that there is another version of our world and our lives as we've come to know it. Even another version of myself slightly altered. Perhaps, me living somewhere else or with a different job, different social status, etc...

And I base all this on absolutely nothing...no j/k...actually I do have some factual links and evidence which I'll present if requested but for now I'd be content with just getting some general feedback on this...

Any thoughts? Do you believe they exist? Why or why not?..etc.

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The "many-worlds" hypothesis (I don't think it goes by that name anymore) was an alternative explanation for quantum phenomena, as a way of avoiding the consciousness-collapsing-wavefunction problem.

Parallel universes also pop up in some quantum-cosmology discussions.

Certainly, when discussing time-travel, it's a nifty way of avoiding the grandfather paradox.

I can't visit these alternative dimensions, people/things from them can't visit ours therefor it matters not to me if they exist or not, the whole idea of top scientists concentrating research on stuff like this; as I know they have been doing, sounds like a lot of shit to me, could they not be doing anything better with their time? There are a lot of questions that have not yet been answered that actually concern the human race.

There are only 2 dimensions in existence...they are good and evil. What you decide to believe either from a thing or someone could be from misleading results. Just think of it...there's nothing more out there...aliens helping or destroying.

Originally posted by D-Double
I thought the parallel universes theory discounted any idea of time travel.... and then open up the discussion for dimension travel.

Kind of a combination: you go back in time, but the paradox barrier prevents you from going back into the history leading up to your present from which you left, a "parallel past" as it were.

time is just an idea, not an actual thing, so you can't travel in it

Originally posted by D-Double
Maybe one day we will be able to visit these other worlds or see into them... or at least prove their existence. It would give us a perspective on our existence that could change the way we live.

Nah, I can pretty much guarantee that will not happen.

i like the idea of parallel universes. would certainly give an explanation for deja vu

Originally posted by PVS
i like the idea of parallel universes. would certainly give an explanation for deja vu

.... and visible ghosts... and earth's weak gravity...

Originally posted by PVS
i like the idea of parallel universes. would certainly give an explanation for deja vu
Deja Vu already has an explanation.... It's most probably neurological.

The are two explanations for this. The is either one Universe or there are more then one

1. If you go back in time and see yourself then kill yourself you are gone from erased from existence because there is only 1 universe and 1 of you that person in which you killed is you so you KILLED yourself therefore you hanged history and you are not in it any longer.

2. If you go back in time you see yourself and kill yourself. Nothing happens and that is meant to happened because that is what was going to happen in that universe in the first place because you traveled back into a parallel universe that was a different you.

or it could be that there are infinite universes, each containing a seperate course of events. there was a really cool ep. of star treak tng that played on that theory

Originally posted by PVS
or it could be that there are infinite universes, each containing a seperate course of events. there was a really cool ep. of star treak tng that played on that theory

that's kinda what I said in there...

"more than one" could simply mean two... i was specifying "infinity"

other dimensions is possible. some people(everyone if truth be told) can tune in to other wavelenghts and experience that dimension. thats why when we see ghosts and other apparations etc, they are just operating on a different wavelenght. they are not dead people's souls.

I'm reading Stephen King's The Dark Tower series at the moment...I'm on Book III, and liking it.

Ooo, how topical.

As for parallel universes being a possibility, I'm open to it. Sounds kinda cool.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I'm reading Stephen King's The Dark Tower series at the moment...I'm on Book III, and liking it.

Ooo, how topical.

As for parallel universes being a possibility, I'm open to it. Sounds kinda cool.

wastelands is the best. when i got done with wizard and glass i just lost interest

ive got wizard and glass..but thats pointless.

really sad ending, but as deep as it was it leaves you wondering what the hell was the point in dedicating an entire lengthy book to a flashback of one character....just turned me off...no adventures or new twisted worlds....it was like back to the future 3....but depressing

if there were alternate universes, it couldn't be good and evil.

Why?
Because good and evil don't exist. They are concepts humans came up with and saying that there is an alternate universe where everyone is evil would be like saying there is an alternate universe where the movie "titanic" is actually what we would know as "x-men". these are human created concepts, thus, a universe could not be centered around that.


You could say that there is a universe which is the exact opposite of ours, which would then have evil or just plain badass-ness is what would be good for them.

besides, that episode of star trek was just lame

I perfectly know what I'm saying.

Originally posted by redcaped
I perfectly know what I'm saying.

Wow, really? That's wonderful. Congratulations, you must feel so proud.

The whole idea sounds plausible to me. I've read a few books like "The Universe and Multiple Reality" amongst others. It would explain some paranormal experiences for sure. Oh, the "Holographic Universe" was good too. The Movie "What the Bleep do we know anyway" was a little strange though. But yes I do believe in different dimensions each having it's own frequencies which is why we can't really see them, only glimpses.

meh....I like the thought behind posts like this but a lot of people should do some reading before posting replies in them. I keep seeing misuse of very important terms, especially to a discussion like this.

A dimension is a measure of direction.....a cooridinate of space allowing one to determine an object's position. There are three physical dimensions that we know of. X (up/down), Y (left/right) and Z (forward/backward). There may be other dimensions but we are incapable of percieving them with our human anatomy. Even if so, they would change our world none, only knowing of their existence would allow us to further explain the phenomena that we witness in the three physical dimensions that we can percieve. It has nothing to do with "other worlds".......

A universe is well, I'm sure you already know what a universe is.........an area of space held together by the gravity of it's combined matter.

There may well be an infinite amount of universes.....but none would be like this one. Each would have had it's own beginning....expansion....resulting in the formation of it's own particles....matter....stars....heavenly bodies producing collisions resulting in fragments of their matter being trapped in a star's gravitational pull.......forming planets.......which would have evolved due to the physical environment of that planet.

Universes do not overlap. Universes contain matter. There is not another universe on top of this one or any other. If two were to meet, it would be a great collision.....matter hitting matter....destroying both or the part of both which collided. Think of taking two rocks and hitting them together. You can not make their matter overlap......only collide. This is ofcourse the basis for M theory......in which the big bang which created our universe was created by the collision of two other universes....

to use words like "dimension" (which is completely inaccurate and irrelevant to this thread) or "universe" are erronious. It appears to me what you speak of is some "higher plane of existence" or something like the new age folks talk about........something not physical that overlaps with our universe.....something spiritual.

ps. The grandfather paradox is easily dismissed as time does not exist. It is simply a term created by humans allowing events to be placed in chronoligical order. It is nothing physical, therefore can not be travelled through. It is an idea. You can travel to a place....physical matter...you can not travel to a thought.

Originally posted by D-Double
Maybe one day we will be able to visit these other worlds or see into them... or at least prove their existence. It would give us a perspective on our existence that could change the way we live.
I agree

Ok, one of the most basic reasons why I believe in Parallel Universes is because our lives and the world as we know it is based quite simply on choices that we make. In other words, choices that we make in life define who we are and what environment or world we live in.

Therefore, I think it's absolutely plausible to believe in there being different dimensions or rips within our own universe where there might be a complete alternate reality or a completely different and absolutely unique universe in and of itself. The 11 dimensions of existence have been explained and actually studied quite a bit. It's really a lot more fact these days than fiction. Although, I do agree that time should really have no bearing whatsoever in this discussion. These are 2 concepts independent of themselves.
Here's a link that explains a bit more .....http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2001/paralleluni.shtml

I know it's a bit old but there are many others like that.

Btw, if anything I hope this thread turns into a debate between Mindship and Evil Dead. Good posts guys. I appreciate the thought and effort into your responses.

Oh one last thing, does anyone remember the show 'Sliders' ?

I remember the show "Sliders"

I read a lot of speculation. Hell, everything here is speculation, without the slightest piece of evidence.

A lot of could, would, should, may, possible.

Where's the evidence people ?

To avoid misunderstandings : I am NOT one of those people who only accept things when the proof is on the table, but I need at least something before I start believing in parallel universes. That something, I haven't found it here.

Maybe it's in another universe

^ Blasphemy! You obviously failed to read my thread.

I read everything here - it's only two pages - but it wasn't very convincing

How about the link in my last post. Did you read that as well?

Yes. Interesting, fascinating and cool at the same time.

But in my own amateur way, I follow the scientific world quite some time, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that spectacular theories only exist until they are replaced by even more spectacular theories.

Somebody asks for proof ? Forget it, you won't get it. Then again, I realize very well that it's almost impossible to prove that there is such a thing as a parallel universe.

But scientists should take into account that people nowadays don't believe everything they read - especially when other scientists completely disagree with exactly the same theories ! They want my belief ? Fine, how about backing it up a little bit ?

If they can't do that, they should have at least the decency to admit it's only a theory that can't be proved (yet), but instead they tell these things as if it's written in stone.

Sometimes I think scientists speculate - or fantasize, what's the difference - about the most intriguing concepts, just to draw the attention of the general public.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
meh....I like the thought behind posts like this but a lot of people should do some reading before posting replies in them. I keep seeing misuse of very important terms, especially to a discussion like this.

A dimension is a measure of direction.....a cooridinate of space allowing one to determine an object's position. There are three physical dimensions that we know of. X (up/down), Y (left/right) and Z (forward/backward). There may be other dimensions but we are incapable of percieving them with our human anatomy. Even if so, they would change our world none, only knowing of their existence would allow us to further explain the phenomena that we witness in the three physical dimensions that we can percieve. It has nothing to do with "other worlds".......

A universe is well, I'm sure you already know what a universe is.........an area of space held together by the gravity of it's combined matter.

There may well be an infinite amount of universes.....but none would be like this one. Each would have had it's own beginning....expansion....resulting in the formation of it's own particles....matter....stars....heavenly bodies producing collisions resulting in fragments of their matter being trapped in a star's gravitational pull.......forming planets.......which would have evolved due to the physical environment of that planet.

Universes do not overlap. Universes contain matter. There is not another universe on top of this one or any other. If two were to meet, it would be a great collision.....matter hitting matter....destroying both or the part of both which collided. Think of taking two rocks and hitting them together. You can not make their matter overlap......only collide. This is ofcourse the basis for M theory......in which the big bang which created our universe was created by the collision of two other universes....

to use words like "dimension" (which is completely inaccurate and irrelevant to this thread) or "universe" are erronious. It appears to me what you speak of is some "higher plane of existence" or something like the new age folks talk about........something not physical that overlaps with our universe.....something spiritual.

ps. The grandfather paradox is easily dismissed as time does not exist. It is simply a term created by humans allowing events to be placed in chronoligical order. It is nothing physical, therefore can not be travelled through. It is an idea. You can travel to a place....physical matter...you can not travel to a thought. That "M Theory" really interests me. Shen two rocks are hit together, usually little peices fall off. Do you think that we could be little fragments of another larger universe? Interesting.

Originally posted by PVS
"more than one" could simply mean two... i was specifying "infinity"

Um No.

Um yes

I pee in your face forever

Originally posted by Milkie
I pee in your face forever

You wish, are you German?

Originally posted by ~Flamboyant~
That "M Theory" really interests me. Shen two rocks are hit together, usually little peices fall off. Do you think that we could be little fragments of another larger universe? Interesting. I wonder as some say that different type universes can operate on a different level of frequencies. If that is the case, then they can blend on occasion.

Oh lord, I see your pt KK. We need someone like 'The Omega' to come back. She could explain all this in like 2 seconds and it would all make sense.

Omega where are you? We need you...

yeah.....'cause......I already explained it........please, point out the faults in my post if you believe Omega's response would differ?

Originally posted by Milkie
Um No.

you won

Originally posted by Evil Dead
yeah.....'cause......I already explained it........please, point out the faults in my post if you believe Omega's response would differ? Ooo touchy............but hear ya............

And PVC, OH, I mean PVS........CAN YOU CHANNEL YOUR THOUGHTS BETTER? Ooops forgot caps were on.

*waits for channel of the spirit of an substance*.............lol

Another world to your own????

Originally posted by Evil Dead
yeah.....'cause......I already explained it........please, point out the faults in my post if you believe Omega's response would differ?

Dude, I gave your props. Remember...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=421757&perpage=20&highlight=userid%3A55421&pagenumber=2

Anyway, I'm not sure what she would say to be honest. She may agree with you completely or then again she may not.

Let's not forget, she is the resident expert here, so it's only fair she should have the final word on something like this. Don't ya think?

Alas, unless the mighty Omega decides to return, we may never know alien1

Originally posted by PVS
i like the idea of parallel universes. would certainly give an explanation for deja vu

Interesting...

Multi Universe must mean that I'm multi tasking or is that multi dimensions?...........good job deb

*pats self on shoulder*

parallel uni's... cool!

wish there's a parallel uni with SW...

wishing..