Proof that Lucas is a hack!
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NinthSith
Im sure some of you have seen this,but for those who havnt enjoy.
Pretty sad that a few highschool kids can put together a better choreographed duel then Lucas did for EP3....the ending to this duel is also better then Annakins death in Ep3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_O_xaqWNd4w&mode=related&search=
PVS
the search option is your friend:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=399007&highlight=title%3A%28awesome%29+forumid%3A38
queeq
Still it rocks... And like they said in your thread, PVS, better than the EPIII duel....
Jedi Priestess
Now see this didnt impress me in the least. Sorry fellas.
AstroFan
Originally posted by NinthSith
Im sure some of you have seen this,but for those who havnt enjoy.
Pretty sad that a few highschool kids can put together a better choreographed duel then Lucas did for EP3....the ending to this duel is also better then Annakins death in Ep3
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_O_xaqWNd4w&mode=related&search=
Yeah, considering Lucas is such a big choreographer.
Quit bitching about Lucas. No Lucas=No Star Wars, No Star Wars=No gay nerd lightsaber duels.
pr1983
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Now see this didnt impress me in the least. Sorry fellas.
and the end of rots did?
Jedi Priestess
Actually yeah, I thought the final lightsaber duel was very cool.
pr1983
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Actually yeah, I thought the final lightsaber duel was very cool.
ah, cool as in 'look obi wan, look at me spinning my saber so heartily'
or something similar right?
JediRobin23
No sry, thats no where close to anything...
A Lightsaber dual alwalys has a story involved with it. These kids with nothing better to do may have made it look somewhat good.
In any lightsaber dual in SW, there was alwalys feeling and story behind it. I'd rather watch a saber dual with actual meaning to it, rather than just an action film....
PVS
Originally posted by queeq
Still it rocks... And like they said in your thread, PVS, better than the EPIII duel....
no it wasnt better. hayden and ewan were top notch.
if it was only filmed without all the quick cutting, that would have shown. ****ing lucas could **** up scrambled eggs.
pr1983
Originally posted by JediRobin23
No sry, thats no where close to anything...
A Lightsaber dual alwalys has a story involved with it. These kids with nothing better to do may have made it look somewhat good.
In any lightsaber dual in SW, there was alwalys feeling and story behind it. I'd rather watch a saber dual with actual meaning to it, rather than just an action film....
you think most of the pt duels had actual tangible meaning? in the context of emotion and the choreography itself, not just in the result, or what was at stake...
Originally posted by PVS
no it wasnt better. hayden and ewan were top notch.
if it was only filmed without all the quick cutting, that would have shown. ****ing lucas could **** up scrambled eggs.
it could have been a little less ott though imo...
JediRobin23
Originally posted by pr1983
you think most of the pt duels had actual tangible meaning? in the context of emotion and the choreography itself, not just in the result, or what was at stake...
it could have been a little less ott though imo...
WHAT movie did you watch???
pr1983
Originally posted by JediRobin23
WHAT movie did you watch???
i was just asking, thats all... if you dont want to answer its perfectly fine...
queeq
I still hate that force hand pushing thing OB1 and Anakin do on Mustafar... that was....icky...
Jedi Priestess
Originally posted by PVS
no it wasnt better. hayden and ewan were top notch.
Agreed. I and liked that force push.
Alliance
Hayden had some great faces, especailly during the forcepush.
pr1983
Originally posted by queeq
I still hate that force hand pushing thing OB1 and Anakin do on Mustafar... that was....icky...
the twirling competition followed by the force pushing contest? yeah...
Sith Lord Windu
(to Alliance's post) here we go....pokeypuke
queeq
Originally posted by pr1983
the twirling competition followed by the force pushing contest? yeah...
Yeah that whole bit... what BS...
PVS
no no no
the creme de le creme of carp was when they
did the lightsaber twirl. there is just no way to justify that....none
queeq
Well, the two together... it's looks like some gay ballet thing or something... I immediately wondered what that was all about.
Alliance
I thought they were hitting on eachother...like some kind of Jedi foreplay.
pr1983
Originally posted by queeq
Yeah that whole bit... what BS...
yeah...
Originally posted by PVS
no no no
the creme de le creme of carp was when they
did the lightsaber twirl. there is just no way to justify that....none
lol, i know what you mean...
Originally posted by queeq
Well, the two together... it's looks like some gay ballet thing or something... I immediately wondered what that was all about.
me too... every time i watch it i just don't get it...
Originally posted by Alliance
I thought they were hitting on eachother...like some kind of Jedi foreplay.
PVS
carp. i knew i should have proofread
pr1983
yeah... carp indeed...
Quinlan_Vos
Ryan vs. Dorkman that was. Ryan made a bunch of lightsaber fight videos.
queeq
The link is already discussed elsewhere.
Darth Subjekt
As good as those kids are, the lightsaber twirl was nowhere near as gay as two kids rolling on the ground with each other.
queeq
But they did it for fun, Lucas did it as a professional filmmaker.
Alliance
"professional"....SW is a a "side project" remember?
Captain REX
Uh-huh.
They're fun to watch whack-sticks-together-then-make-them-glow videos. Nothing more.
queeq
Originally posted by Alliance
"professional"....SW is a a "side project" remember?
Alliance
Originally posted by Captain REX
They're fun to watch whack-sticks-together-then-make-them-glow videos. Nothing more.
I really don't understand how Lucas can maintain that opinion.
Alliance
Originally posted by Alliance
"side project"
30 years and six movies? And its a side project compared to his other, like 2, films?
queeq
Aside to Howard the Duck?
It made him a fortune, gave him all the independence he wanted... hardly a side project.
Alliance
Yeah...but he calls it a "side project."
queeq
Pfffttt..... why doesn't he just call it the pride of his life. It should be.
Alliance
Because he want to seem like SW wasn't a desperate gambit to make him rich.
queeq
It gave him his independence, he always wanted that. Good for him. Now go and make some good movies.
Alliance
"good"
Hopefully.
Maybe let someone else write the script?
EPIIIBITES
...Yeah a hack...bet he never thought of this...
queeq
I knew it!!!! He LIVES!!!
smoker4
Elvis has left the death star
queeq
Together with blue suede Boushh
Akira99
Not bad but I found a lightsaber duel that pwns even this one. You've probably heard of it - Crew of 2 or Duality. That is the best lightsaber duel ever and makes Lucas look like a hack big time The makers of it were actually hired by Lucas so I heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcELyBtnJFM
smoker4
Originally posted by queeq
Together with blue suede Boushh
Uh Thank you very much uhu!
Originally posted by Akira99
Not bad but I found a lightsaber duel that pwns even this one. You've probably heard of it - Crew of 2 or Duality. That is the best lightsaber duel ever and makes Lucas look like a hack big time The makers of it were actually hired by Lucas so I heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcELyBtnJFM
Impressive, most impressive
Akira99
Ano, its sheer genius
Alliance
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
...Yeah a hack...bet he never thought of this...
Its a sad day...not that I haven't known this for a while.
NinthSith
I like the original dual viseo that i posted better,Yes that one has a more star warsy things in it,but as far as the choreography all i see is a bunch of twirling and not much substance.The highschool kids get my vote.
Akira99
A bunch of twirling? I think there was tremendous skill there those guys seem to be trained martial artists - more solid punches and kicks for a start. And the end of the duel before they kill each other...
The nerdsaber duel was very skillful though. The guy in blue got hired by Lucas apparantly
queeq
Looked a bit wooden... Movements are a bit awkward, not very athletic. I liked the kids better, a much more lively fight.
But this one looks nice.
overlord
Pfff.. I didn't wait for the ending in this teen movie. I saw an ugly gay kid walk up and a flashy name come by and I closed the browser. I think I already saw it anyway and it is f*cking stupid.
queeq
Thanks for the input.
Darth Aain
This fight got borigng, I personally think that the obi vs anakin looked alot better in the begining.
Alliance
Lucas tried to get to theatrical.
pr1983
Obi v Ani in ROTS, to me, was more concerned with style more than substance... anakin is supposed to hate obi wan with every inch of his being, but he doesnt seem to display any feeling of the sort till the very end of the battle...
and the fight had too much 'hold the saber at head height, then swing down to the right, then down to the left, then down to the right, then down to the left' and so on...
at least imo...
Captain REX
Anakin doesn't REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Obi-Wan until he's a crispy piece of Sith bacon...
In any case, all the movie duels beat the pants off of these duels, as exciting and amusing as they are to watch.
pr1983
Originally posted by Captain REX
Anakin doesn't REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Obi-Wan until he's a crispy piece of Sith bacon...
In any case, all the movie duels beat the pants off of these duels, as exciting and amusing as they are to watch.
he blamed him for padme's apparent betrayal, so there was some hate there...
all im saying is that for such a supposedly emotionally charged fight it was lacking... at least to me...
Akira99
Originally posted by Captain REX
Anakin doesn't REALLY REALLY REALLY hate Obi-Wan until he's a crispy piece of Sith bacon...
In any case, all the movie duels beat the pants off of these duels, as exciting and amusing as they are to watch.
Yeah your probably right if your talking about Ani vs. Kenobi but look out as there is a sequal of that kids duel coming out early next year, both of them older and stating that this new one will be better than the previous in every way. You should download the kid's duel in high quality and its a masterpiece to watch!
queeq
PLus it's a fan film, not a full fledged Star Wars film
queeq
Alliance and I seem to agree a lot lately.
Alliance
Except on the nature of the force.
Captain REX
Well, Ryan Weiber did put out another sword fight, albeit with another kid.
exanda kane
I thought the PT was proof that Lucas was a hack?
pr1983
Originally posted by exanda kane
I thought the PT was proof that Lucas was a hack?
In a lot of cases it is...
vintageSW77
anyone else not like fan films?
queeq
If so, I wonder why?
vintageSW77
Bad acting, bad lighting, overplayed special effects and terrible jokes.
When they are played straight most of them are unintentionaly hilarious and when they are played for laughs they are mostly cringeworthy.......and some of the fans who make em scare me.
They kind of make you feel bad for being a SW fan.
queeq
Really? I don't mind all that campiness at all. I'm always amused that fans take all that trouble to MAKE a fan film... of course, not all of it is very good... but why should. I bet they had fun making it though.
vintageSW77
sure
im off work today...im going to check some out
mebbe itll change my mind
its just that some of them are sooo geeky
queeq
They are... but so are some fans.
I like the CHad Vader films...
Darth Subjekt
one of the best ones i've ever seen is Art of the Saber. Two chinese dudes going at it with their styles. Its nice. I think you can check it out on Google Video.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8672065830884811559&q=Art+of+the+Saber&hl=en
also, i read up on this when i first saw it...its not sped up or anything, its all them. and some of the shit they do is incredible. I notice something new everytime i watch it...or at least something new that i like.
PVS
^^^
thats my favorite of them all. TIGHT!!!
Darth Subjekt
YES SIR!!! the couple times the rotate the blades around the other ones...crazy. they need to make more.
PVS
i just wish it was directed better...i mean the choreography was perfect...it just seems that the cameraman couldnt keep up very well with them...you know?
Akira99
Dam the page isnt working
Darth Subjekt
Yea, it did seem that they were too fast for it. Maybe they needed like another camera or two from all agles, wide lens, etc...might have made it even better.
here, try this page...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8672065830884811559
see if that works now...if not, just go to google.com, type art of the saber, and it'll bring it up.
Akira99
Oh yes I remember this video. I saw it ages ago. Pretty skillful but the camera work leaves a lot to be desired.
queeq
Wasn't too bad. Looked awesome. Too bad they're trying to create some kind of House of Flying Daggers poetry feel to it, that didn't work.
Good fighters, good show.
queeq
This is a funny fan film...
Watch out: ADULT CONTENT i.e. in the language!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1171866424
Darth Subjekt
LOLLOLOLOL, omg that shit was funny!!! it sounds like the sam epeople who did the other SW gangst rap..(Im your father, im your father...) Not bad, it sounds better than most of the hip hop thats out these days, lol.
queeq
Too bad there wasn't a Mace-couplet to it...
EPIIIBITES
How about..."Proof that Lucas...has absolutely no control of his franchise anymore"...
EPIIIBITES
...uggh!
if I go to some kids' house and I see him playing with that, I'll throw it the window.
pr1983
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
How about..."Proof that Lucas...has absolutely no control of his franchise anymore"...
i HATE those...
queeq
Never seen those before... Is that for real?????
What's next? Yoda in a foamy bathtub?
pr1983
It is real... there's a pilot luke one too...
Alliance
...and yoda in a foamy bathtub.
queeq
And MAce as a pole dancer.
pr1983
Wouldn't surprise me...
Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
And MAce as a pole dancer.
Oh my.
Shaft
EPIIIBITES
Chewbacca as a toilet lid cover...awww.
queeq
Nice an fluffy seat... hmmmm, comfy.
vintageSW77
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=424271&from=thread&pagenumber=1#post7510087
Oh dear....someone thinks Star Wars is BORING
tut tut
queeq
Someone hates Warwick too... hehehehe
But the scene form Extras was good.
Alliance
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Chewbacca as a toilet lid cover...awww.
I prefer my Wookie Rug...
*Trandoshan grin*
queeq
That rug is multifunctional
Alliance
Not if I step on the scalp like this.
Alliance
How is it multifuncitonal?
EPIIIBITES
I think he's being icky...
EPIIIBITES
Isn't he?
Am I?
EPIIIBITES
I'll never tell...woo hoo ha ha haa!
EPIIIBITES
Oh come on, YOU are...Don't play dumb...
Queeq...I can see right through you
EPIIIBITES
I've got you all figured out...
...make no bones about it
ok i'll stop
queeq
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
Oh come on, YOU are...Don't play dumb...
Queeq...I can see right through you
Damn! Am I on cellophane mode again?
queeq
No... cellophane... the transparent stuff.... *sigh* joke's gone now.
Alliance
Yes. Things usually die after a day or so.
queeq
Guess this thread's over then...
Alliance
Isn't this forum over?
queeq
Nope... it lives on forever.
Alliance
I should get a thread in here for my SW novella then.
queeq
Yup... when is it due?
Alliance
When its done. I have my characters designed and a general plot laid out. I've started some writing.
queeq
Oh okay... tell me when.
Alliance
I could post my concept art.
Alliance
Where should I make the thread?
Alliance
But its of topic
queeq
Start a new one then: Rethinking the PT or something...
Alliance
In the EU forum then?
queeq
That's possible but then I don't get to see it, I never go there.
PVS
ok, you two really need to have intercourse
Alliance
Originally posted by queeq
That's possible but then I don't get to see it, I never go there.
Thats why I don't post there.
queeq
Post it here then... You do sound like a woman!
Tan-El
To be honest, Lucas makes mistakes in his films that first year film students would be made to re-shoot. His ideas were all stolen from other films and mythologies, the only creative thing he did was re-organize them and give them a different name.
On another forum, I've seen a comment that Ryan now works for LFL. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, then good for him, give him 5-10 years, he could well be a 'household name' filmmaker.
smoker4
Thanks for that
SeverianB
Wow. The man has millions of dollars and has created some of the greatest movies ever, and improved the quality of sound and SFX, and he is a hack? The evidence is not there, pal.
queeq
Maybe... "turned into a hack" is a better phrase.
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