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Full Potential Anakin'd be quite stronger

Yup.

what about sidious draining him?

Originally posted by ESB Vader
what about sidious draining him? Well if Anakin's twice as strong as Sidious, he'll just use hiw own Meg-Drain to counter Sidious's.

is DE sidious power the same as ROTS sidious, just that he has force storm and learnt more techniques?

Apparently, Anakin could have been twice as powerful as Sidious could have ever been, so I doubt it matters.

Whats with this full potential shit? For the last time, full potential anakin=Luke>greater than any star wars character.

Anakin would WTFpwn DE Sidious, he would WTFpwn anyone, except Luke.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Anakin would WTFpwn DE Sidious, he would WTFpwn anyone, except Luke.

There was a time that I'd say that too. Nowadays, you never know. See the Legacy of the Force series. People make Luke uberpowerful, and then uberweak, then average, and the cycle repeats.

It really depends. I mean, sure he would be more powerful, but Sidious knows every single technique there is, if he has one Anakin doesn't know about, then he could beat him. Saying he is most powerful doesn't really matter if he hasn't got the knowledge to use it to it's full extent. For example, if this is ROTS Anakin given his full potential, I belive he would lose!
However, if this is an older Anakin, who has become so old that he cannot grow much more, than no doubt he would win...

Originally posted by kamikz
It really depends. I mean, sure he would be more powerful, but Sidious knows every single technique there is, if he has one Anakin doesn't know about, then he could beat him. Saying he is most powerful doesn't really matter if he hasn't got the knowledge to use it to it's full extent. For example, if this is ROTS Anakin given his full potential, I belive he would lose!
However, if this is an older Anakin, who has become so old that he cannot grow much more, than no doubt he would win...

You're missing the point. ROTS Anakin wasn't near his full potential. There is no grey area here. A full potential Anakin would win period.

Full potential isn't everything Sexy. Knowledge, training and experience all count too.

Full-potential Anakin would win, period. Knowledge, training, experience? Who cares, full-potential implies that he's had all this.

And F-P Anakin would have more power than F-P Luke, as well...

Originally posted by Jen'ari
Full potential isn't everything Sexy. Knowledge, training and experience all count too. a 30 mega ton nuke is all power but a marine sniper who's been doing his job the best for twenty years has exp,knolwedg,training ...now who wins(D.A)

Originally posted by Captain REX

And F-P Anakin would have more power than F-P Luke, as well...

Ugh how so Rex? A Full potential Anakin=full potential Luke. That means they're equal, that means neither one is stronger than the other.

'Who cares, potential implies that he's had all this.'

Not really. He can still be at his full potential in the force but he still might not have had the perfect quality of training, knowledge of the force or proper experience.

For example, you can argue that Mace Windu reached his full potential by ROTS. This doesn't mean that he might not have ever gotten any more powerful. If he, say had better knowledge of the force (force blocking for example), way more battle experience and training in the dark side, he would surely be more powerful, correct?

Originally posted by superstoner
a 30 mega ton nuke is all power but a marine sniper who's been doing his job the best for twenty years has exp,knolwedg,training ...now who wins(D.A) let put this another way ...Darth Revan has more experience than DE sidious will ever have RIght but we all know that sids wpould WTFpwn him rather easily

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ugh how so Rex? A Full potential Anakin=full potential Luke. That means they're equal, that means neither one is stronger than the other. higher midichlorean count
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ugh how so Rex? A Full potential Anakin=full potential Luke. That means they're equal, that means neither one is stronger than the other.

Luke is incredibly powerful, but I still think F-P Anakin would be the stronger. Luke's mother was not Force sensitive, which may detract from it, and Luke is not the Chosen One, as well.

@ Jen

Does it really matter? I assume from reading 'Full potential' that he is at the height of his power and has had the necessary training to reach it. I have always assumed as such, and will rule it as such.

@ Superstoner

Please do not bring Supershadow into this.

sorry just trying to get the picture across... Anakin still had a higher midichlorean count(and besides sith'ari originally mentioned King Adas,
who had black skin instead of the usual red for Sith and was made a legend after repelling the ancient Rakatan Infinite Empire,so the prophecy of Sith'ari which talked about a savior of sortsI'll upload a link in a bit to explain

Originally posted by superstoner
sorry just trying to get the picture across... Anakin still had a higher midichlorean count(and besides sith'ari originally mentioned King Adas,
who had black skin instead of the usual red for Sith and was made a legend after repelling the ancient Rakatan Infinite Empire,so the prophecy of Sith'ari which talked about a savior of sortsI'll upload a link in a bit to explain http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Adas ignore the ret-con comment it is old and GL himself dismissed it

No Luke and Anakin are equal, Lucas said so himself. It doesn't matter of Anakin's father was the force and Anakin was Luke's father, apparently they have equal connection to the force.

Where did Lucas say that Luke and Anakin were equal at full potential?

Because that seems silly to me.

Superstoner, what are you talking about?

lol, exactly. That was kind of random.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Where did Lucas say that Luke and Anakin were equal at full potential?

Because that seems silly to me.

Superstoner, what are you talking about? the origins of the Sith'ari prophecy=to chosen one prophecy but sith version is more accurate

Originally posted by superstoner
the origins of the Sith'ari prophecy=to chosen one prophecy but sith version is more accurate

That hasn't been established, and I for one find that hard to believe.

hey rex ever smoked weed chugged sevn shots of whiskey shot acid(lsd) all in under ten minutes....
ill be back when im slitely soberer

Originally posted by Captain REX
Where did Lucas say that Luke and Anakin were equal at full potential?

Because that seems silly to me.

Superstoner, what are you talking about?


In a vanity fair magazine.... And it's not, why should it be? If Anakin has 10000 midichlorians, then he and Padme makes a baby, and the connection gets passed on. Why shouldn't then Luke have equal? Do we know how the force is passed on from parent to child? No, and Padme has midichlorians in her body as well, everything has, so that would be passed on to Luke as well....

*shrug* I just don't think that Luke should be as powerful. Whatever.

Meanwhile, no, Superstoner, and I don't care.

And please change your signature, the word 'f***' is bypassing our censors and needs to be removed.

Yes, vanity fair, I forgot what issue but it is confirmed.

Originally posted by Captain REX
*shrug* I just don't think that Luke should be as powerful. Whatever.

Meanwhile, no, Superstoner, and I don't care.

And please change your signature, the word 'f***' is bypassing our censors and needs to be removed.

ok but it will have to wait a while im not sure how i did it last time

Yes you are, don't give me bullshit. Change the signature. Now.

yea but i thought lucas only said that luke took that role of being the strongest, never heard of them saying they are equal, i want to see the exact quote

Originally posted by kamikz
In a vanity fair magazine....

In a Vanity Fair magazine that no one has yet to produce to my knowledge? Where's the exact quote, issue, or even a scan? I ask for it time and time again. If it was already confirmed, then great - but just show me.



So, every Jedi should have equal potential to their parents then? And the question isn't why shouldn't he, it's why should he. And of course, the question that follows is: "proof?"



Then why do you just assume that he must have equal? You posed the question of exactly "why shouldn't Luke have equal?". Well, didn't you just admit that we just do not know, if we don't know then why even assume/ask without any proof to back up the assertion?

And obviously I'm only only operating under the assumption that the article in question has yet to be presented. If it does, then...well, just disregard this whole post, lol.



And? This doesn't even mean that they have equal midi-chlorians, nor equal potential. You seem to be operating under the premise that all midi-chlorians are passed on and/or the son/daughter must be the stronger because everyone has midi-chlorians. This is obviously not the case unless you can show viable proof. Even so, there's no proof for that anyways, so it doesn't matter.

As I've stated already, I'm only assuming the quote/article/whatever hasn't been presented yet, so disregard it if it has. If not, then any arguments from a claim that is not backed up is invalid until the exact evidence from the claim is made.

The only quote from Lucas I know that is made in reference to Anakin and Luke is that he stated Luke represented what Anakin could've become. Now, you can take that as "equal potential", however, there's definitely cause to say that he only meant Luke would become the most powerful Jedi ever, not the same potential. Anakin was going to become that, but he couldn't due to the injuries sustained at Mustafar. Either way, though, it's clear Luke's the most powerful Jedi, but potential is a no-no.

so luke took that role and became the most powerful?

but are they equal in power or what advent

This entire topic sucks. In a pure fight, Sideous loses. If he uses his head and his wider knowledge of The Force, he may be able to scrape a victory. He does have intelligence far above Anakin, whatever his potential.

Advent, I was just guessing. People say that they cannot have the same potential, I was just showing a way to describe that maybe they could, the same as people do with the "Anakin= son of the force, Luke= Son of Anakin"....


http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/publicity/news20050104.html This is the one it's in....

Originally posted by Nikkolas
This entire topic sucks. In a pure fight, Sideous loses. If he uses his head and his wider knowledge of The Force, he may be able to scrape a victory. He does have intelligence far above Anakin, whatever his potential.

thats fu*king bull sh!t anakin would own him what ever sidious tries to do

Anakin wins, but it doesn't necessarily have to be that way. For example, if Anakin had never heard of those powerful force drains (like Nihilus used) then he could be killed by that, even though he is more powerful...

possibly but if anakin at his full potential would be just as powerful as luke.. he could loop out of the force and remember, luke is lightside and uses defensive super force powers, anakin throught experience like luke could have learnt what luke did, and possibly learned what sidious did,

When I hear that someone has reached full-potential, I usually assume that they know everything they need to know by the time they've reached that point...

I might have to make that a rule here.

I have to agree. Full potential means just that..THEIR FULL POSSIBLE POTENTIAL. If he is at his strongest with the force, but not with expeirence, then its not full potential. And i think Anakin would kick Luke's ass too. Maybe not easily, but i think he would win. Sidious stands no chance.

I'm in full agreement. Unless there's any extremist protest, I'm going to rule all FP battles as Subjekt listed above, due to the fact that that is exactly what I was thinking...